Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia: Ban All Christian Sites

200px-Coat_of_arms_of_Saudi_Arabia.svgSheikh Abdul Aziz bin Abdullah, who serves as the grand mufti of Sifaudi Arabia, is calling for Kuwait to follow the lead of Saudi Arabia and ban the construction of any Christian religious site. While Islamic leaders like the Grand Mufti are outraged with any slight or restriction of their religion, they deny the most fundamental rights of free exercise to other religions in the name of Islam. This is nothing new for the Saudi cleric and his colleagues. He previously called for all churches to be destroyed in 2012. It is not clear if this is a repeat of his announcement a few years ago or a recycling of the earlier story. However, it is a shocking position from one of the highest Islamic clerics in the world and adds an insight into the recent religious violence in places like Syria and Iraq.

According to new reports, the cleric is calling again for the destruction of all churches in the Arabian Peninsula as legislation moves forward in Kuwait to bar the construction of non-Muslim religious sites.

Abdullah, who is considered to be the highest official of religious law in the Sunni Muslim kingdom, said that such intolerance is required by Islam. He serves as the head of the Supreme Council of Ulema (Islamic scholars) and of the Standing Committee for Scientific Research and Issuing of Fatwas. It is another example of how the underlying beliefs of ISIS are difficult to distinguish from some Islamic leaders, and allies of the United States. We discussed the disconnect earlier of Saudi Arabia beheading people accused of blasphemy or apostasy while denouncing ISIS for doing the same thing. Likewise, as ISIS destroys religious sites and artifacts, the Grand Mufti is calling for the same destruction.

Kuwait (which we invaded to liberate) would bar the construction of a church of those same soldiers to go to pray in their country. When we ask how such extremist groups get some of their intolerance and hatred, one can look at the Grand Mufti’s views and gain some insight. Until such Islamic clerics reverse long-standing anti-free speech and anti-free exercise views, the rise of these violent hate-filled movement will continue in my view.

40 thoughts on “Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia: Ban All Christian Sites”

  1. I am a Christian, yet I support the Muslim’s right to chase out competing religions. It’s their country. The people there have a right to pass along to their children the kind of society that they please. I don’t think they should execute Christians or Atheists, but I do support them exiling people who do not conform to their religion.

    Goodness, Western Societies have tried the anything goes approach, and I do not see that it has worked out well for us. I can’t blame them for not wanting to emulate us.

    Squeeky Fromm
    Girl Reporter

  2. Saudi Arabia has also been infamous in equestrian news for a huge doping and cheating scandal that got them barred by the FEI. This is especially disappointing, since historically they treasured and honored their horses.

  3. “While Islamic leaders like the Grand Mufti are outraged with any slight or restriction of their religion, they deny the most fundamental rights of free exercise to other religions in the name of Islam.”

    That is one of the great hypocrisies of extremism.

  4. Well, of COURSE this happened. Extremism is the norm in the Middle East, not the exception. That’s one of the reasons why moderates leave. I’m sure Po et al will pop in and call anyone who complains about extremism Islamophobes and explain how Sharia Law is really just lovely for all involved.

    Aridog – another complication is that we helped build some rather robust anti missile defense systems in Saudi Arabia.

  5. Paul:

    You can’t be serious. I abhor religion but defend the right of people to practice what they wish. Ceasing such freedom only threatens your own.

  6. It never ceases to amaze me, the hypocrisy of these religious leaders. They spout all this divine rubbish about laws and god etc. Then they support old fa#t* marrying teenagers, absolving rape, humiliating women, etc. The Grand Muffer or Muffdiver, or whatever his name is, is just another Jim Jones who has hypnotized people by the thousands to look at him like a god. The Grand Muffer or any other person who rules the lives of others so intimately and in such detail and with such authority so as to hand out death sentences for arguing, is nothing more than a present day Attila the Hun or Adolf Hitler.

    The truly perverse aspect of all this is that the US and other Western nations actually afford this Grand Muffdiver a place on the world stage. There is a motel room in Louisiana just waiting for the Grand Muffer.

  7. We should stop the construction on any mosques in the United States.

  8. Eventually we, the USA, will have tense issues with Saudi Arabia. Just about the time they decide we are less useful than other powers. We are merely allies of convenience…with very few shared values otherwise. Never mind Iran, who says within the past 48 hours “Death to America” all the while “negotiating” with the USA & western powers. When the US military took the time to build up sufficient forces and a coalition of multiple national forces, to oust Iraqi invaders from Kuwait, as well as protect Saudi Arabia, we succeeded promptly. The Powell Doctrine works…even if I might not agree with all Gen Powell says on other subjects. Flat fact is we couldn’t have “negotiated” Iraq out of Kuwait, it took a massive coordinated combination of forces …. sort of a smaller scale version of D-Day actually. Had I not turned down a posting to Saudi Arabia, because I just could not live in KSA like a useful idiot in an enclave, I’d have been smack dab in the middle of Schwartzkopf’s sweeping “left hook” whacking the Iraqis. I am not sorry I missed that…don’t like deserts all that much, etc. Even after the Iraqis were run out of town in Kuwait, the Emir of Kuwait refused to return to his capitol, from exile, until we restored all of his air conditioning. Hello? We are lackeys and tools? What?

    We regularly fail to grasp the nature and values of nations we try to assist, which leaves us looking like lackeys in their eyes. I had “intelligence” acquaintances spend a year at Fort Bliss learning Vietnamese language(s)…I wonder how much they were listened to by the wheels in MAC-V? I say “language(s)” because the RVN has at least three plus different tongues, north to south, and even versions of Khmer in the Delta. Not just different accents or dialects, but different languages per se. Many of us tried hard but failed politically in the end, while losing virtually none of the battles, just the war. More “negotiation” in far off Paris where we received “assurances” that were never ever kept. I know RVN soldiers, and keep in touch with them, who escaped to the USA and became US citizens who will never forgive Mr Kissinger for his “negotiation” which left whole large units of the PAVN in place in RVN. What did anyone think would happen next…circa 1975? Some of us blamed the RVN soldiers for collapsing (just like the Iraqis) after they saw us bail out before them. Our usual problem is retaining the confidence of our allies we fight with and I am not sure there is an easy solution, since we’re not about to repeat the retention of power as we did in Japan, Germany, and Korea. Both our friends and enemies know this. What do y’all think about what the Ukraine thinks of us about now?

    We “negotiate” now with folks (including Russians) who think nothing of employing “Taqiyya”, which is essentially government and/or insurgent element approved mendacity in many places we blather on with and claim progress. LTG Krulak had the right ideas in Vietnam, small unit placement in widely spaced villages to become part of the community and learn what was what and then combine efforts to defend it. His Marines employed it successfully and some Army units did as well, but he was not a favorite of MAC-V nor “Blowtorch Bob” in the White House. The original Army Special Forces did the same thing, starting in my time with Operation Hotfoot, later renamed Operation White Star (1959-60+), in Laos, and were also looked down upon by old guard Army top ranks, and used mostly in subsequent years as “tools” not as part of an over all strategy.

    Our political arrogance is perhaps our worst trait.

  9. Chinggis agree with Aridog. Foolish to have private contractors doing work of army. Need army grunts to do work. Private contractors not work for Chiggis’ great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great graat great great great great great great great great great grandfather.

    Also need lots of yaks to supply army. If not enough yaks for army, army will lose.

  10. Alyssa …. based upon my military experience and DOD career, you needn’t worry about any large scale interventions in Syria or re-interventions Iraq this year or anytime in the foreseeable future. We do NOT have the forces to do so effectively even if we wished to do so. Doing so ineffectively is what gets civilian nationals killed. I’ve seen it, been there, done that long ago. “Enclave” strategy & tactics leave the force with no truly discriminate choices. “Strategic Hamlets” …e.g., massing civilians in tight quarters from their original spread out villages 40+ years ago is a classic example. Those civilian nationals who didn’t move as ordered risked being blown to bits. The man who organized that effort, from the White House no less, was not nick named “Blowtorch Bob” Komer for no reason.

    Fact is we didn’t even have sufficient forces when we tried in Afghanistan and Iraq almost simultaneously, in the 2000’s, literally swapping “surges” from one place to another, leaving one place under manned periodically. Enemies always move in to fill vacuums we create. We just did not have the ground forces to manage two asymmetrical wars simultaneously for any long term…not even close to it….let alone those with 3 to 4 “sides” as is the case in most of the strife torn middle east these days.

    Our fighting force capabilities are again being reduced substantially by RIF so we are even less capable of large scale interventions now. Given our “Pentagon Ranger” bureaucrats’, uniformed & civil service, affection for private crony contractors, foreign & domestic, for most of the logistics…e.g., the army cannot move far for long without it….I doubt we could defend Boston and New York City simultaneously…even for a couple weeks as we wait for the contractors to catch up with their voluntary civilian employees, some on the rather reluctant side, and crony supply chains.

  11. Harry:

    Not directed at you, only Hagee. And anything that does come out of the woodwork is unrelated to his nonsense. The world has problems and always will.

  12. Dave,

    JT posted John Hagee blood moon theory about a year ago. So I posted comment to see what comes out of woodwork 1 year later.

  13. Harry:

    The Moon entering Earth’s shadow has happened for quite a long time, and has occurred repeatedly within a single year many times before, and in future. Perverting natural phenomena by placing it within a religious context is nothing new for these charlatans. And saying something big will happen is equal to my saying it will rain again: doesn’t mean I can take credit for the rain when it happens.

    Linking to my previous post, if I recall correctly, didn’t Hagee open for McCain during the 2008 campaign? Again, secularism, please.

  14. Pastor John Hagee says there 2 Blood Moons to go, then something big is going to happen. Passover will begin Friday, April 3rd 2015 at sundown.
    The next Blood Moon will be on April 4, 2015. See on the other side when the smoke clears.

  15. Another example of why secularism is essential to society.

    And unsurprisingly, beware the likes of Cruz, Santorum, Hucksterbee, et al. They seek to sterilize this country and culture generally, by usurping US history via various Dominionist inventions and interpretations.

    They don’t want freedom for all, as the empty slogans begin to scream. They want the freedom to override the freedoms of others. Hence all the new “religious liberty” bills cropping up across states, of which they hope to lead one day.

  16. The number of Iraqis killed during and since the 2003 U.S. invasion have been assessed at one million, which represents 5% of the total population of Iraq. This does not include deaths among the three million refugees subjected to privations. – “Body Count”

    From PSR — Physicians for Social Responsibility:

    “Doctors group releases startling analysis of the death and destruction inflicted upon Iraq, Pakistan and Afghanistan from the “War on Terror” in Body Count”

    March 19, 2015

    “On March 19, 2015–the 12th anniversary of the onset of our country’s ill-fated military intervention in Iraq–Physicians for Social Responsibility (PSR) is releasing the latest edition of Body Count for North American distribution.

    The pdf of Body Count is available for download here: http://www.psr.org/bodycount

    The report, authored by members and colleagues of the German affiliate of the Nobel Prize-winning International Physicians for the Prevention of Nuclear War (IPPNW), is a comprehensive account of the vast and continuing human toll of the various “Wars on Terror” conducted in the name of the American people since the events of September 11, 2001.

    This publication highlights the difficulties in defining outcomes as it compares evaluations of war deaths in Iraq, Pakistan and Afghanistan. Even so, the numbers are horrific. The number of Iraqis killed during and since the 2003 U.S. invasion have been assessed at one million, which represents 5% of the total population of Iraq. This does not include deaths among the three million refugees subjected to privations.

    Dr. h.c. Hans-C. von Sponeck, UN Assistant Secretary General & UN Humanitarian

    Coordinator for Iraq (1998-2000) calls the report, “a powerful aide mémoire of their legal and moral responsibility to hold perpetrators accountable.”

    Body Count takes a clear and objective look at the various and often contradictory–reports of mortality in conflicts directed by the U.S. and allied forces in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan. The result is a fuller picture of the devastation and lethality to civilian non-combatants throughout these regions. Unfortunately, these deaths have been effectively hidden from our collective consciousness and consciences by political leaders seeking to pursue military solutions to complex global issues with little, if any, accountability.

    At a time when our nation is once again contemplating new and expanded military operations in Iraq and Syria, Body Count underscores the scope of human destruction that helps fuel the widespread anger at the Coalition Forces. It similarly provides the context to understand the rise of brutal forces such as ISIS thriving in the wake of our leaders’ failures. After an estimated cost of at least three trillion dollars over a decade of warfare, we need to fully account for our responsibility and learn the appropriate lessons to avoid a tragic exacerbation of the explosive situation we face today.”

  17. One wonders why a building built for people to gather in, could not be converted to a community center. People like to gather to socialize and entertain each other no matter how the socializing and entertaining is characterized.

  18. We invaded Kuwait to liberate it? This is an example of where we invade a country not for “combatting terrorism” or “spreading democracy” but for other geo-political or economic reasons. We really don’t care about their social, religious or governing principles.

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