In a truly shocking and facially unconstitutional plan, Republican Presidential Candidate Donald Trump is calling for a “total and complete shutdown” of Muslims entering the United States. The plan would violate a host of domestic and international protections, as I discussed today with the Washington Post.
Trump stated that “[i]t is obvious to anybody the hatred [among Muslims] is beyond comprehension. Where this hatred comes from and why, we will have to determine. Until we are able to determine and understand this problem and the dangerous threat it poses, our country cannot be the victims of horrendous attacks by people that believe only in Jihad, and have no sense of reason or respect for human life.”
Trump said he would ease the ban in the case of Muslims serving in the U.S. military and allow them to return home. that is still well short of constitutional — or rational — plan. For Muslim citizens, such a plan would be grossly unconstitutional under the first and fifth amendments. The latter prohibits The depriving of individuals of “life, liberty, or property,” without due process of the law and an implicit guarantee of equal protection of the laws.
It is certainly true that the constitutional protections often turn on whether someone is consider a “person” under the United States Constitution. In Plyler v. Doe, 457 U.S. 202 (1982), the Supreme Court struck down a Texas statute denying funding for education to unauthorized immigrant children. Being present within the United States does afford protections of due process and equal protection. Outside of the country immigrants without resident status face a more difficult challenge. However, international law and conventions afford protections for travel and religion.
The law would harken back to the disgraceful period of the Chinese Exclusion laws. We have long rejected immigration limits based discriminatory classes of this kind. Indeed, the Immigration and Nationality Act protects potential refugees facing “fear of persecution” on account of their “religion.” Yet under President Trump we would now formally impose such a discriminatory element, a move that would make the United States a pariah around the world and immediately extinguish our relations with Islamic countries.
Immigration policy has cleared resonated as a draw for Trump. However, this proposal would openly embrace raw prejudice and blind rage as motivating factors for governmental policy. It would clearly fail in denying reentry for citizens or residents. As for non-citizens abroad, they are accorded protections under international law. Under Article 13 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, people have the right to leave or enter a country and that “everyone has the right to leave any country, including his own, and to return to his country.” There is no doubt murky aspects to such rights and a long-standing question of their enforceability. However, this proposal rests on flagrant religious discrimination against one group. It seeks to “protect” the United States by denying the very essence of who we are as a nation.
Alex Jones Defends Donald Trump
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QkJxwWxqZI
Make sure all you knee-jerkers take a good punch at Alex Jones while not bothering to verify anything he says here. If he’s right (and he is) we’re all toast anyway so your displeasure with his “personality” isn’t going to help you. Wake up and smell they tyranny. All your little arguments and aren’t going to help you because as usual you don’t get the big picture. Have a nice day.
Donald Trump, Hillary Clinton and all the other Israeli candidates are enemies to our country.
An excellent start to our problems would be to deport all Israeli Zionist dual citizens.They are a main core of evil in our country. They and American traitors did 9/11. Anyone who says that they believe the official 9/11 story is corrupt and part of the cover up.
Veterans Today: Until such time as American voters wake up from their deep sleep and coma, rise and stand up for America, all presidential candidates and all candidates for Senate and House will always be Israeli candidates and never American candidates.
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A professor of sociology is lecturing about trends regarding the decline of religion in the world, and is about to conclude before taking questions. “By my calculations, I estimate that religion will virtually disappear from the civilized world by the year 2155,” the professor says. “These may be distressing conclusions for many, but we must be realistic about where things are headed and the consequences of such developments for civilization,” the professor summarizes. “Questions?”
A young man in the back of the lecture hall raises his hand.
The professor acknowledges him. “Yes,” Abdul, “What’s your question?”
“But professor, how can you say that? Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world and its adherents represent 25% of the population and even faster growth is being projected in the decades ahead,” Abdul explains.
“Yes, Abdul, that’s true, but I was speaking strictly about the civilized world.”
I agree with LC of Texas in his comment above (one or two up).
The muslim attacks will continue. The hearts and minds of Americans will change and steer in the direction of controlling terrorism. I predict that this subject will take over the election process and that no dem can win. We will probably get The Donald. Only then will there be boots on the ground with humans in them on the ground in Syria and the muddle east killing ISIS. It is all over but the shouting. There will be a lot of shouting. Weenies like the Bushboy can’t shout. Hillary can but that is usually reserved for Bill when he is cavorting. Bernie is too left. On the Repub side they are all too weak except for The Donald. You heard it from this dog. Its all over but the barking.
Does anyone know where refugees stay while they undergo the US vetting process? It is my understanding that European countries let them stay during the years long process of checking their scant background information. This is obviously problematic.
And on another note, I cannot understand why Ahmed Mohamed’s lawsuit is stipulating such astronomical damages for “lasting harm.” He got to meet the President, and various billionaires, and is now assured myriad career choices, if he ever returns from Qatar. Plus he is on record stating that this was the best thing that could have happened to him, because now he has a platform to talk to others about issues.
A kid brought in a box of wires that a teacher thought looked like a bomb. They called the police. It took longer than one would have thought to sort it out, but that’s about it. I always thought it was a big hullabaloo for naught.
Since I’ve got my dear friend karen here, whom I miss a great deal, I’ll take the opportunity to ask her again to please enlighten us about her views on extremism. Her views are very insightful, and I think we all could use to know and learn from them.
Being a bit shy, she is very reluctant to stand out, but hey, it is for the greater good, especially since she started the conversation.
Karen, if you keep playing coy, I’d have to give the autographed, leather-bound 1st edition quran I promised you to John!
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karen said to Po:
Do you consider crashing a van deliberately into a civilian bus stop, hitting people, and then jumping out with a knife to stab a woman with a baby a terrorist attack? Yes or now. And this time answer the question.
Po answered:
yes, I do!
Do YOU consider the bombing of hospitals, of schools, of ambulances, the dropping of a missile on 4 kids playing on the beach, the lighting of a sleeping family on fire a terrorist act? Yes or no? And this time answer the question!
Yes, we need more great Muslims like Ahmed Mohamed, who invented and built a complex electronic clock all by himself and then shared his wondrous creation with his teachers, one of whom mistakenly thought it might be a bomb. President Obama, Mark Zuckerberg, Facebook, Microsoft, and other esteemed individuals and companies of great integrity and honor have shown their gratitude and deep admiration for Mohamad’s 21st century marvel. But because of our sick, racist, bigoted, and depraved Islamophobic society, this boy genius was shockingly handcuffed. But, on the bright side, Mohamed is now embarking on a lawsuit which will keep the US Justice Department staff busy and will entail much litigation and legal fees, which will help to boost the economy. So not only has this amazing Muslim youth created a magnificent high-tech clock, but he has also helped to create much needed jobs in the USA.
So, I guess I was wrong. . . . or maybe not.
Please show me where it is unconstitutional to refuse illegals to enter the United States of America. What was the purpose of Ellis Island?
In my opinion, no illegals should be allowed into the States until our country is back on its feet. Meaning that we get rid of the illegals already here, especially the criminal ones and remove the “birthright babies” from American status. These so called babies are a product of their parents and should have the same nationality of their parents.
Another tribute to Ferguson:
McCluer Fight Song – Class of 1973
Go Comets Go Team, Fight for Ol’ McCluer
Keep our goal and strive team strive
To win with all our might (Fight, Fight, Fight)
Fight Comets fight our honor to uphold
Lead on our team to victory
Triumphant we will be tonight!
Go Comets Go! Go Comets Go!
Hit ’em high, Hit ’em low!
Go Comets Go!
Error. That is: We got…
The old Ferguson Comets chant:
Cigarette ashes, cigarette butts.
We go the other team by the nuts!
Pull team pull!
I agree with Issac above. A Pedophile Priest is one thing. A small thing on a scale of things. But to have the head of the whole religion be a Pedophile Prophet is a bit much. It is a stretch of the acronym PP. Maybe I can devise a poem.
This is to the rhyme of a Ferguson Junior High sports chant from 1967 or so.
Pedophile Prophet, Pedophile Priest.
We got the flock fleecing of the beast.
First came money, then came gold.
Then came Pedophiles with strong holds.
Pull Team Pull!
The world has taken a long time to evolve to forms of governance through rational approaches, not those based on fairy tales and pedophiles. This Islamic thing is the last great gasp of the feeble minded who can’t live with the questions and therefore in their minds no one else can either. The questions will always be there. If there is a god, it would want its creation to sort this out, but not by invoking its name, especially by a prophet that is a pedophile.
“Who do you mean by Muslims? White Muslims? Black Muslims? Asian Muslims? The ones serving in the military? In congress? The converts? The ones whose family came with the mayflower? Who is the Muslim? Is it an ethnicity, an origin? is it a practice? A choice?”
Po,
What do you call a citizen of an Islamic theocracy? Iraqi? Iranian? Syrian? Palestinian? Until they are able to separate their 21st century government from their 7th century theology then they are Muslim first. I am a Christian but I am a United States citizen. I am an American that happens to identify as a Christian. My nation’s constitution is the law I am bound by as a citizen of this country. That should be the same for every citizen, regardless of their religious beliefs. So I am talking about the followers of Islam, wherever they are. Stand up and defend your peaceful religion from the Islamic radicals that are hijacking it and stop defending the radicalization of it as if innocent human beings continuing to be slaughtered is somehow justified.
I know a few Syrians and they are great. However, just like Arab countries control their borders, European countries have a right to control theirs. Let the rich Saudis fill their tents with refugees. I won’t hold my breath. They wanted to drive those people out of Syria just like they wanted the Shiites trampled in the hajj to die.
As for Islam’s history, we know that it spreads itself with conquest. You deny facts if you deny that.
Maybe Christianity did too. So what. The west abandoned Christianity a long time ago. It doesn’t mean that Islam suddenly gets to take over the West by demographic invasion and terror just because there were Crusades a thousand years ago.
I like Arabs in a lot of ways, I like Islam in a lot of ways. None of that matters to the question of whether or not we get to control our geography or not. The West still lives even if it is old and weak.
“Radical islam did not come out of nowhere. It is the DIRECT result of western imperialism.”
For 700 years?
Pfff.
Shorter: “SEE WHAT YOU MADE ME DO!!”
Olly
1, December 8, 2015 at 4:16 pm
Po,
1-Muslims need to join non-Muslims in this war if we are to believe this religion of peace truly wants to be at peace with the west.
2-If the middle eastern nations truly are the lead in this war against radical Islam then I would see every one of them opening their doors to the refugees rather than forcing them into western cultures where they are bound to clash. How do you explain this lack of compassion within the Muslim world?
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Olly, you are doubling down on the fallacious arguments.
1- First of all, you are talking about Muslims as if they are a nationality. You would not talk about Jews similarly, nor would speak of Buddhists that way. Why? Perhaps because Jews are white, and Buddhists are a diverse group?
But Islam is eve more diverse!
Who do you mean by Muslims? White Muslims? Black Muslims? Asian Muslims? The ones serving in the military? In congress? The converts? The ones whose family came with the mayflower? Who is the Muslim? Is it an ethnicity, an origin? is it a practice? A choice?
Are you saying that my Jewish buddy who recently converted to Islam never needed speak fro Jews but suddenly, in a two day span, he is now bound to speak for islam?
Additionally, there is no war here. The only war we see is the one the west has been waging on the Muslim world for decades. Millions of Muslims here are living their lives as Americans, going to work, caring for their children, interacting with their neighbors as did millions before them.
Why is there s Syrian refugee problem? Do you think they wanted to leave their prosperous lives to take thee perilous journeys?
When will the west take responsibility for their covert actions trying to take Assad out that led directly to this refugee problem?
2- Radical islam did not come out of nowhere. It is the DIRECT result of western imperialism. Without the west’s presence in the ME, supporting dictators and repressing democracies, stealing resources and taking out democratically elected leaders, THERE WOULD BE NO ISLAMIC EXTREMISM, or a very small fringe element.
If Saudi Arabia and its allies Qatar and the EUA are the ones supporting the western attacks on syria leading to this mass exodus, do you think it makes any sense that the refugees would go those places?
Where do they go? Where they are welcomed and where they can hope to get the social standing they lost, Turkey, Lebanon, Europe, USA.
And why are the refugees bound to clash? Millions of their predecessors left a peaceful and positive legacy wherever they went (including Darrell Issa, Steve Jobs and many others…). Why this current batch of refugees?
Look up the stats and you’ll a group that ends up more successful and better educated than the average American.
Poll of U.S. Muslims Reveals Ominous Levels Of Support For Islamic Supremacists’ Doctrine of Shariah, Jihad
Those refugees want to get to Europe! Social welfare! Subways!