“Everybody Must Get Stone”: Mueller Moves Closer To The Possible Indictment Of Trump Confidant

Below is my column in The Hill newspaper on the next possible wave of indictments and specifically the targeting of Roger Stone.  This includes possible charges of false statements and more recent indications that Mueller is mulling witness tampering charges.  As Mueller prepares what may be his final set of indictments, there remains the absence of a direct U.S. figure connecting Trump to any collusion with Russia.  With Stone and former associate Jerome Corsi expecting indictments, there is a reasonable question of whether Mueller has truly run down a major figure or whether he is merely shooting the wounded at this point in his investigation.

Here is the column:

With special counsel Robert Mueller reportedly working on his final report, his staff continues to call witnesses and gather evidence before a grand jury. Mueller clearly is still trying to build a case, and the most obvious target is Roger Stone, longtime Republican activist and Trump supporter.

Indeed, Mueller seems to have given his staff a Bob Dylanesque order that “everybody must get Stone.” He has called in more than a dozen witnesses connected to Stone over the course of at least 16 months. One Stone associate, Jerome Corsi, said this week that he expects to be indicted. Mueller reportedly is pressing them on Stone’s communications with Julian Assange, the head of Wikileaks, and his possible prior knowledge of the hacked Democratic emails during the 2016 presidential campaign.

Andrew Miller, who Stone described as his “wing man,” is in court this week fighting a subpoena by challenging the legality of Mueller’s appointment. Miller, who now paints homes for a living, is refusing to testify before the grand jury. A house painter is hardly the cover up that Mueller was seeking. He is clearly after Stone. Yet, Stone would not seem a prize worth the powder being expended by Mueller. He is a provocateur and braggart who relishes media attention and once declared, “Politics with me isn’t theater. It’s performance art sometimes for its own sake.”

Stone’s performance on Wikileaks may be one improv that he soon will regret. Yet, for Mueller, it may end up as impressive as shooting an annoying mime in Central Park. Stone often appears rambling on television and regularly attacks his former associates. Nevertheless, his value may be to give Mueller a tangential, if comical, Trump figure connected to the actual hacking. Despite more than 100 criminal charges against 32 individuals, Mueller has largely charged American defendants with collateral or wholly unrelated crimes from his original mandate. The exceptions are Russian hackers who are unlikely ever to see the inside of an American court. While Stone suggests that he had advanced notice of the Wikileaks material and direct contact with Assange, he now insists that he simply relied on published accounts.

The best case for Mueller would be to show that Stone was the intermediary to the Russians or Wikileaks in a hacking conspiracy. Given his erratic behavior and penchant for hyperbole, Stone would not seem to be an ideal conspirator but we do not know the full extent of evidence acquired from all of these witnesses. In the end, Stone could prove to be the only game left in town. For all of these deals, Mueller has no core collusion or obstruction charge to show for his efforts. He handed out plea bargains to an array of defendants, including a couple of the high profile duds. He cut a deal with Trump campaign adviser George Papadopoulos, only to later demand the harshest possible sentence under the deal because of a lack of meaningful evidence. While Mueller demanded six months, Papadopoulos was sentenced to a mere 14 days.

Mueller may have another dud with Paul Manafort. Mueller reportedly is threatening to scuttle the sentencing deal because Manafort has not supplied particularly useful evidence. For Stone and other possible targets, those duds only make their positions all the more precarious. Few key figures remain and, with all of the plea agreements, it is like playing musical chairs with all of the seats occupied. While Stone has cooperated and turned over evidence, he may be the best available target.

Stone is not the only one without a chair, however. Two other figures are potential targets. The first, obviously, is Trump himself. The Wall Street Journal reported that an indictment on campaign finance violations was drawn up against Trump “fixer” Michael Cohen before Cohen took a plea bargain. It also revealed evidence that Trump was directly involved in the arrangement of the hush money payments despite his later public denials. Yet, even assuming that Mueller has enough evidence to charge President Trump with a campaign finance violation, he is unlikely to do so. While some of us have long maintained that a sitting president can be indicted, the Justice Department has a policy against such indictments.

Moreover, the alleged violation involving payments of hush money to a former porn star and a Playboy bunny would be both hard to prosecute and far removed from Mueller’s original mandate. To spend two years investigating Russian collusion only to prosecute Trump for a marginal campaign finance violation would be a glaring shortfall. The more likely target might actually be Donald Trump Jr. who, in contrast to President Trump, has given extensive statements under oath and to investigators. That presents the maximum exposure for the type of false statement charges that Mueller has used against former national security adviser Michael Flynn and other Trump associates. Indicting Trump Jr. last would also make strategic sense. It is anyone’s guess how President Trump would react to his son’s indictment, but it likely would not be subtle. He could move against Mueller or issue a rash of pardons.

If Mueller ends up with Stone as the only person charged with collusion, he would need to show more than Stone’s described “performance art” on emails and social media. Otherwise, it looks less like Watergate special prosecutor Leon Jaworski going after Attorney General John Mitchell but indicting Martha Mitchell. Of course, Stone could prove to be Mueller’s criminal genius as opposed to Trump’s court jester. That, however, would require a departure from Mueller’s prior filings saying that he had no evidence of anyone knowingly assisting or interacting with Russians behind the hacking efforts. If Stone was not in the conspiracy with the Russians, he would be accused of seeking hacked emails after the fact, which could raise free speech and associational defenses.

None of this has slowed the line of Stone witnesses heading into the grand jury as Mueller makes his final push in the investigation. Stone once said, “If you’re not controversial, you’ll never break through the din of all the commentary.” The next few weeks will determine if he succeeded in breaking through the din, only to land himself in a federal dock.

Jonathan Turley is the Shapiro Professor of Public Interest Law at George Washington University. You can follow him on Twitter @JonathanTurley.

90 thoughts on ““Everybody Must Get Stone”: Mueller Moves Closer To The Possible Indictment Of Trump Confidant”

  1. Again, a swing a miss and it’s strike 81 and 112 errors with the game postponed to next season. Team Meuller is having a bit of trouble focusing. It’s BASE ball not jai alai or curling?.

    1. Judge Dabney Friedrich just refused to dismiss Mueller’s indictment against Concord Management. The indictment alleges crimes only under the defraud clause of 18 USC 371. The absence of any allegation against Concord Management under the offense clause of 18 USC 371 does not invalidate the indictment under the defraud clause. That’s a big win for Mueller and his crew. It sets the stage for future indictments against members of the Trump campaign who knew enough about what the Russians were doing to enter into an agreement willingly to conceal the Russian activity from the legitimate functions of U.S. government agencies so that the Trump campaign could benefit from the Russian activity. Meanwhile, the hacking indictment against the GRU includes numerous crimes alleged under the offense clause of 18 USC 371. Remember: Hacking is, in fact, a crime, for sure.

  2. A swing, and a miss. 81 strikes and game is called on account of it’s the end of the season and will resume?

  3. At the end of the day, you really don’t know what Mueller has or what he’s going to do with it. The constant harping by Faux News and other Trumpsters trying to undermine the investigation and to pretend to know that evidence has been found so far proves nothing is just noise. If there really is nothing, then why won’t the rodeo clown and his personal television network just shut up and let the investigation play out?

    1. As you rightly said, Anon, we’re hearing lots of “noise.” And this is right too: People should just “shut up and let the investigation play out.”

    2. We have a good idea what he has. If it was anything of interest, the indictments would have been forthcoming the end of last winter.

  4. This “investigation” has become an embarrassing adventure. But worse, it shows the extent to which our legal system can/has become weaponized.

  5. Sure, why not go after Roger Stone. The objective of the Mueller Investigation is cause legal grief and to bankrupt all individuals deemed troublesome to the Elite Establishment. The Mueller Investigation should be a permanent fixture of government and, indeed, should continue long after Mueller and Trump have passed on. The Mueller Investigation will serve as a helpful tool to keep opponents of the Elite Establishment in line.

  6. Wide ranging powers yet he’s missing the obvious well kown candidate to Russian connection with criminal activity involved. Is he blind, stupid, or both. Obvious question is is it misprision of office or how much is he getting paid on the side or in promised book deals as a form of payment.

    What a farce. And it’s so transparent.

  7. It’s time for a special council to investigate the crimes of Robert Mueller. Whitey Bulger, uranium one, 911 coverup etc.

  8. I am getting disgusted at the intellectual absurdity of all of these arguments. The targeted prosecution is becoming more clear as I read your attempt to provide some specious claims to how and why these various people could be prosecuted. Destroying people’s lives should not be an enjoyable intellectual activity. IT’S TIME FOR LEGAL EXPERTS TO STATE THE OBVIOUS – TARGETED PROSECUTIONS ARE ILLEGAL!! Stop trying to justify clear targeting of individuals to justify millions of dollars of salary to these clearly biased investigators. We never prosecuted :
    – Anyone who used a Foundation to influence state department policy
    – Anyone who destroyed subpoenaed or relevant public records and wiped relevant servers with a cloth or something.
    – Party leaders that did not turn over servers to FBI investigators when requested to do so.
    – All of the Clinton aides who got immunity when it was clearly not deserved
    – Bleach Bit operators who got immunity
    – President who tried to obstruct justice by publicly chastised Supreme Court justices for decisions
    – A President who used the IRS to target political opponents
    – FBI/CIA/DOJ who allowed FISA warrants to be placed without following proper channels
    – Attorney Generals who meet with a subjects spouse to discuss issues.

    The Mueller Team’s stretch to prosecute and destroy people’s lives (Flynn, Papadapoulus, etc) is a sickening abuse of power. Trying to intellectually justify it is what Mao, Stalin, Neville CHamberlain and the SS guard did 60 years ago. STOP!!!

    1. We also never prosecuted a president who paid his former pastor “G– D— America!” to shut up and lay low. I mean, if you want to get all huffy about hush money payoffs.

      1. “Obama’s Pastor: God Damn America, U.S. to Blame for 9/11”

        By BRIAN ROSS REHAB EL-BURI March 13, 2008

        https://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/DemocraticDebate/story?id=4443788&page=1

        Excerpt:

        “The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a three-strike law and then wants us to sing ‘God Bless America.’ No, no, no, God damn America, that’s in the Bible for killing innocent people,” he said in a 2003 sermon. “God damn America for treating our citizens as less than human. God damn America for as long as she acts like she is God and she is supreme.”

        In addition to damning America, he told his congregation on the Sunday after Sept. 11, 2001 that the United States had brought on al Qaeda’s attacks because of its own terrorism.

        “We bombed Hiroshima, we bombed Nagasaki, and we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon, and we never batted an eye,” Rev. Wright said in a sermon on Sept. 16, 2001.

        “We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans, and now we are indignant because the stuff we have done overseas is now brought right back to our own front yards. America’s chickens are coming home to roost,” he told his congregation.

        Sen. Obama told the New York Times he was not at the church on the day of Rev. Wright’s 9/11 sermon. “The violence of 9/11 was inexcusable and without justification,” Obama said in a recent interview. “It sounds like he was trying to be provocative,” Obama told the paper.

        Rev. Wright, who announced his retirement last month, has built a large and loyal following at his church with his mesmerizing sermons, mixing traditional spiritual content and his views on contemporary issues.

        “I wouldn’t call it radical. I call it being black in America,” said one congregation member outside the church last Sunday.

        1. Anonymous

          Anyone who has studied the evidence knows it was an inside job.

          “The hijackers who carried out the Sept. 11 attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon expressed confusion and surprise Monday to find themselves in the lowest plane of Na’ar, Islam’s Hell.

          I was promised I would spend eternity in Paradise, being fed honeyed cakes by 67 virgins in a tree-lined garden, if only I would fly the airplane into one of the Twin Towers,” said Mohammed Atta, one of the hijackers of American Airlines Flight 11, between attempts to vomit up the wasps, hornets, and live coals infesting his stomach. “But instead, I am fed the boiling feces of traitors by malicious, laughing Ifrit. Is this to be my reward for destroying the enemies of my faith?”

          1. Anyone who has studied the evidence knows it was an inside job.

            You haven’t studied the evidence bill. You’ve been jerking yourself off while reading idiot meme generators like David Ray Griffin.

            1. Wretched one

              I’ve forgotten more of the evidence it was an inside job than you ever knew about the official fairy tale. Your LSD trip has really screwed up your number six.

                1. Wretched

                  Truth and the pursuit of it is obviously something you aren’t concerned about. Don’t feel alone. Millions of people still believe the 9/11 fairy tale, and plenty of informed people DO know the truth, but choose not to risk being insulted by fools like you.

                  1. Yes I’m concerned with truth. You’re concerned with preserving your self-image as the smartest guy in the room. Trouble is, you’re unclear on the concept.

                    1. here’s a fun conspiracy theory

                      FDR knew the Japs were coming
                      https://www.amazon.com/Day-Deceit-Truth-About-Harbor/dp/0743201299

                      NPR and Foreign Affairs and a thousand others say it’s BS and a horrible book, an old conspiracy theory, eetc…. and yet, over time more comes out

                      https://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2011/11/29/declassified-memo-hinted-of-1941-hawaii-attack-

                      who knows! but if it floats your boat, read the book and then wise up and throw it in the garbage. the truth is hardly anyone cares about things like that, remote or recent, they’re just occupied with mundane things

                      there’s a good reason why. because such information is inconsequential to what’s happening right now.

                      I hypothesize — as someone who shares the inclination– that the interest in historical accuracy and “conspiracy theories” is an acute fascination in the American mind– because Americans are immersed in certain liberal tropes and fantasies like “truth in media” and “the consent of the governed”

                      foreigners are often bored by these things because they are raised with a different understanding:

                      a) regular people are not in charge
                      b) history is written by the victors
                      c) powerful people control not this or that government but essentially every one. not because of conspiracy but because that’s how things work.

  9. Turley wrote, “If Stone was not in the conspiracy with the Russians, he would be accused of seeking hacked emails after the fact, which could raise free speech and associational defenses.”

    Mueller will not indict Stone simply for seeking hacked emails after the fact for the reason stated: freedom of the press. The problem for Stone is that his journalistic cover story appears to have been prefabricated well ahead of any of Stone’s public statements about the Wikileaks release of any of the Podesta emails. In fact, the whole cover story goes back to roughly March of 2016, when the Rebekkah Mercer funded Government Accountability Institute first started accessing Wikileaks emails about John Podesta’s involvement with Joule Unlimited. Bannon did not publish the GAI report about Joule until August 1st, 2016. But the report itself had been fully prepared no later than late May or early April of 2016. It is that foreknowledge of an eventual need to attack John Podesta, coupled with the long delay before actually launching that attack on Podesta, that heightens the suspicion that members of the Trump campaign may have been coordinating their own campaign activities with Wikileaks at a time when the GRU was actively hacking Podesta, not to mention the DNC and the DCCC. Stone’s journalistic cover story will not hold up if Mueller can demonstrate Stone’s advance knowledge of the need to construct just such a journalistic cover story dating all the way back to March of 2016.

      1. The Russians hacked many more Podesta emails than Wikileaks published. There’s some evidence that both Stone and Corsi may have had access to some of the Podesta emails that Wikileaks possessed but did not publish. That, in turn, suggests that either Stone or Corsi, or both, may have directed Wikileaks as to which Podesta emails to publish and which not to publish. Meanwhile, Mueller has not yet spelled out exactly how nor when the GRU disseminated the Podesta emails to Wikileaks. Mueller may be able to show that Stone and Corsi knew things that they could only have known by previewing the Podesta emails that the GRU hacked before Wikileaks published them.

  10. More process crimes. No surprise there. There isn’t any there there, so he’s concocting charges derived from his interview process in order to extort perjured testimony. Trump ought to commute the bulk of Manafort’s sentence and pardon the rest of them. This who ‘investigation’ is one long series of harassment gestures.

    1. Suddenly, perjury is not an important crime?

      Bill Clinton was brought to the brink of removal for lying.

      Lock Stone up.

      1. Think of Mueller as a deer hunter; indicting these process crimes are him shooting the neighbor lady in the nearby woods. Sure, he bagged something, just not the deer.

      2. Suddenly, perjury is not an important crime?

        They didn’t commit perjury, MarryAminority. Look at how perjury is defined in New York law. It requires you be giving sworn testimony. Subsidiary offenses require you affix your signature to a written instrument to which a jurat is ordinarily attached

        They’re charged with misleading investigators, a charge that is a signature of the federal criminal code. A retired FBI agent once showed up in my office doing a background check for an agency which had employed him. He tells the receptionist that he found it quite amusing when federal prosecutors charged someone for lying to the federal investigators. (“In my day, we assumed the people we talked to were lying to us”).

        Its standard practice for local police departments to record interviews with subjects. The FBI refuses to do so, so their accounts of interviews with witnesses, targets, subjects, suspects &c are among the least reliable available. Yet, they have a tool local police do not: they can charge people with a crime for misleading them. In the case of people like Gen. Flynn, defendants plead to dubious charges because they cannot afford to fight them.

        Partisan Democrats are fine with these abuses, so long as only Republicans are victims. There are no decent people in the Democratic Party anymore.

          1. Yes, but Gen. Flynn didn’t talk to any grand jury.

            And it’s doubtful anyone actually lied to the grand jury.

            Federal prosecutors have brought charges against people because their memory contradicted other witnesses (whose memories contradicted each other). See Lewis Libby.

            Again, partisan Democrats do not mind these abuses. They know the Department of Justice isn’t coming after them.

            1. Flynn lied to the FBI like Martha Stewart. If Stewart should be locked up for it, then Flynn should be.

              Roger Stone has been called to testify to the grand jury. Lying to the grand jury is indeed perjury.

      3. You want to lock a partisan media figure like stone up? And Corsi?

        OK fine then I want to lock Acosta up. and Rachel Madcow

        this is a slippery slope that liberals and Democrats are wholly unprepared to ride the toboggan on. Smart ones know that. This is not China where communists actually are in charge for sure and can “lock up” their opposition at will. (Not that he SIlicon Valley Internet tycoons arent trying to emulate them)

        So don’t be surprised if some thinking liberals with integrity actually rise to defend these partisan figures. Turley did, others will too. You watch.

        meanwhile folks, consider a donation to Roger Stone’s defense fund!

        https://secure.rogerstonelegaldefensefund.com/donation1/?InitiativeKey=QNAZWYLAI9I5

        1. If Stone and Corsi’s knowledge of the hacked emails is after the fact of the hack, then they will not be indicted for the hacking offense. If Stone and Corsi’s knowledge of the hacked emails involves previewing and curating them for Wikileaks, then they will be indicted for conspiracy to defraud the United States.

  11. It seems that the “Russia Investigation” was based on the belief that both sides of the polar divide could join together in demonizing Russia. If the investigation was only to gather clear evidence of Trump’s unfitness for office, it would have seemed too partisan.

    It turns out that neither side is very interested in demonizing Russia. Far more people are opposed to Israeli and Saudi control of US policy. Appoint a special counsel to investigate Israeli and Saudi collusion and the public will be onboard.

  12. Mueller is quite Shakespearean – lots of sound and fury signifying nothing – but the problem is we’re the idiots paying for this knight errant. Maybe he can indict a windmill, too!

    1. mespo – I thought Mueller had indicted a couple of windmills and then found they were represented by attorneys. 😉

      1. Paul,
        What’s up with your boy Flake threatening to hold up judicial confirmations unless the Senate votes on a bill to protect Mueller and his investigation?

        1. OLLY – Flake thinks he can primary Trump so this is his play for fame. My wife tells me he is popular outside AZ because he could not raise enough cash to run in the primary for his own office here, which is why he is a one term Senator. So, does he run to the right or left of Trump?

  13. Turley wrote, “While Stone suggests that he had advanced notice of the Wikileaks material and direct contact with Assange, he now insists that he simply relied on published accounts.”

    OFCOLA. The published accounts at issue came from Dr. Jerome Corsi who got them from Sloppy Steve Bannon who tried to link John Podesta to some sort of money-laundering scheme involving Russians at exactly the same time that Manafort’s Ukrainian shenanigans were being reported in the press–early August of 2016. Both Bannon and Corsi seem to have gotten their dirt on Podesta from Wikileaks. Both Stone and Corsi were trying to use it to counter the press reports about Manafort’s Ukrainian shenanigans. So from where or from whom did Wikileaks get their dirt about Podesta? Well . . . I could guess at it, if you like. But why can’t you all guess at it, instead? Some sort of mental block, perchance. The problem for Stone is the timing of his advance knowledge. And that “timing thingy” just so happens to be the problem for Bannon, McGahn and Trump, as well.

  14. Mueller is likely to find that President Swamp-Thing’s personal finances via his properties are saturated with Russian money, and those oligarchs are of course under the thumb of Putin.

    That will be the strongest (indirect) connection to Russia, a connection that could play a part in directing policy because of the potential leverage against the dean of the well-respected Trump University (and would easily explain why the dean never speaks ill of Putin).

    Maybe it’s why he was quick to dismiss our intelligence agencies: to justify not taking any retaliatory action for 2016 interference.

    In regard to Stone, Manafort, Con Jr., et al., they probably tried to impress their master and made incompetent moves on their own, for which they should pay.

    Or I’m entirely off and we just have to wait, assuming the new fraudster in charge of the DOJ doesn’t bury or dissipate the investigation.

    1. You’re not “entirely off”.

      “President Swamp-Thing’s personal finances via his properties ARE saturated with Russian money.”

      Trump most likely has no clue about who or how his properties are sold. He collaborates with others to get money any way they can and give him a portion. He is obviously unconcerned with laws, ethics, truth, or criminal guilt. His only concern is to put on the appearance that he is normal as much as possible, knowing himself that he is grossly mentally dysfunctional.

      1. Sam:
        “Trump most likely has no clue about who or how his properties are sold. He collaborates with others to get money any way they can and give him a portion. He is obviously unconcerned with laws, ethics, truth, or criminal guilt.”
        ***********************************

        Good to know you’ve got the inside scoop on Trump’s finances. With that kind of clairvoyance you really should do parties. Where were you when the billion dollar lottery was drawn?

        1. Just one of the lefts machine programmers getting the party truth out for the day. “Anything done or said to advance the party ‘is’ the truth. VI Lenin, Adolf Hitler, James Carville.

        2. Trump’s money connections are available to you, too, at waynemadsenreport.com.

          November 8-9, 2018 — General release of Trump-Mafia collusion Road Map

          ↔This article is available to the general public↔

          Since WMR began developing and maintaining the Trump-Mafia collusion Road Map in 2017, it has been WMR’s intention to release it to the general public the moment Donald Trump made a hostile move on the Department of Justice and specifically, Attorney General Jeff Sessions.

          Sessions — who was recused from overseeing the collusion investigation of Trump’s and his family’s criminal foreign entanglements — Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, and Special Counsel Robert Mueller are all being targeted by Trump and his criminal associates in an attempt to hide the Trump Organization’s close connections to and involvement with major international criminal networks.

          the rest of the article is available.

          1. wayne madsen. wow. nobody believes his garbage anymore. seriously not even the usual conspiracy mongers will sell his junk. he’s just a blowhard without much air left anymore

      2. no he’s a real estate developer, casino operator, brand manager, and tv personality all in one. he actually has a multitude of ;awful sources of income. a bunch of condos sold to russians in lawful transactions is a big fat zero and the Meuller conspiracy theorists will have to come up with more than that.

    2. not likely. it takes a lot to saturate billionaire’s finances. you may not be aware of how much a billion really is. it’s a big number. for prosecutors, DJT selling a bunch of condos to people in lawful transactions won’t mean diddly.

  15. The author of the article left the letter “d” off. Everybody must get stoned.

    Sam Stone, came home…
    To his wife and fam il lee…
    After serving in the conflict overseas.

    And Sammy took to stealing…
    When he got that empty feeling..
    With an overdose… hovering…
    In the air.

  16. TURLEY DOWNPLAYS STONE’S SIGNIFICANCE..

    WHILE ACKNOWLEDGING STONE’S SIGNIFICANCE

    “Stone’s performance on Wikileaks may be one improv that he soon will regret. Yet, for Mueller, it may end up as impressive as shooting an annoying mime in Central Park. Stone often appears rambling on television and regularly attacks his former associates. Nevertheless, his value may be to give Mueller a tangential, if comical, Trump figure connected to the actual hacking”.

    One can see Professor Turley is quite conflicted here. Roger Stone could be the key man linking Wikileaks to Russian hackers. Yet Turley paints Stone as “annoying’, “rambling” and “comical”. In no way do these traits limit Stone’s capacity as a mischief maker. To the contrary said traits are commonly linked to mischief makers.

    Ridiculous people often figure in political scandals. Their cynicism, for example, drove them to hatch a dark, vindictive plot. Their need for sex or attention led them to lose all inhibitions. Their insatiable greed reduced them to the level of racketeer. At the heart of every scandal one finds lapses of judgement by someone ridiculous.

    And ridiculous leaders draw ridiculous associates. With Donald Trump we have seen that in every department. Tom Price, Scott Pruitt, Ryan Zinke, Wilbur Ross, Betsy DeVos are all ridiculous people Trump placed in his cabinet. Add Matthew Whitaker! Whitaker could be the most ridiculous yet.

    So Roger Stone’s ridiculous character is totally in keeping with Trump’s general following.

    1. Peter Hill – I have got to say a word or two or three in defense of the mimes in Central Park. They trained hard. They exercise every day. They put it on the line every darn day. I like mimes. I like clowns. I didn’t like It, which gives clowns a bad name.

        1. Peter Hill – you are not reduced to Central Park. Central Park is the big time. Reduce is some park in Cleveland.

        2. you might be surprised at how much street vendors, panhandlers, and mimes can make in a day and one suspects they’re not filing schedule C

    2. where sex is concerned stone has had more than a hundred men put together and that was years ago. stone is a swinger with a hot wife for starters and it is not a secret at all. buyt apparently peter may be unawares of that, even though it is widely known and written up years ago.

      and stone has also worked for a lot of politicians and many were certainly not ridiculous. again, it’s no secret. but just go ahead and say whatever you like!

      betsy devos. here is a much maligned person that deserves no speculatory defamation along these lines at all. but you throw in there as if including her with the others makes any sense at all. don’t bother to explain

      please folks consider a donation to Roger Stone’s worthy defense fund

      https://secure.rogerstonelegaldefensefund.com/donation1/?InitiativeKey=QNAZWYLAI9I5

    3. Tom Price, Scott Pruitt, Ryan Zinke, Wilbur Ross, Betsy DeVos are all ridiculous people

      Dr. Price is a retired physician and clinical professor of surgery. Ryan Zinke is a retired Navy SEAL. Wilbur Ross had a long and handsome career in business, and has a net worth in excess of $2 bn. We have it on the authority of Peter Hill, who’s taking piece rates from Correct the Record, that these are ‘ridiculous people’.

      Peter, you ever see the film Henry Fool?

  17. Stone has long said he expected to be indicted. However, reasonable minds have long held that he had no real connection with Wikileaks. He is all hat and no cattle.

    1. Stone seems to have possessed knowledge of John Podesta’s involvement with Joule Unlimited before Bannon had the Government Accountability Institute first report that involvement on August 1st, 2016; which, in turn, was before Corsi published any reports about Joule Unlimited. The connection is in the timing. Stone says he got his information from Corsi who got it from Bannon by way of GAI. But the flow of information could have been exactly the other way around. Bannon and GAI might have gotten their information from Corsi who might have gotten it from Stone who might have gotten it from Wikileaks who might have gotten it from the GRU. Uh-oh! Spaghetti-Os.

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