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What Bernie Sanders Has That Joe Biden Doesn’t

Below is my column for BBC on the Sanders campaign and my recent discussion of the election with over a dozen of his supporters at the University of Michigan. Biden is being portrayed as the effective nominee after last Tuesday and at least one Democrat is suggesting the cancelation of the remaining primaries. However, polls show a distinct lack of excitement about Biden as a candidate. His express selling point is that he is better situated to defeat Trump. That leaves an obvious vacuum on positive passion that was so evident at the Sanders rally that I attended.

Here is the column:

Standing in front of the library of the University of Michigan on Sunday, Bernie Sanders could be excused if he paused a moment to reflect on the estimated ten thousands of cheering supporters.

It was 60 years ago at the University of Chicago that Sanders began what he later described as “the major period of intellectual ferment in my life”.

Sanders joined the Young People’s Socialist League and other organisations and organised his first protest. He could only marshal a force of 32 students to occupy the administration building, but he ultimately prevailed. Sanders spent much of his life fighting for big ideas with small crowds.

Now, he has not just the numbers but the movement that he always dreamt of. Indeed, he is the movement. While some might not want socialism, everyone in this crowd desperately wants Sanders.

Watching from the edge of the massive crowd was one person who knew all too well what Sanders may have been thinking as he stood before this university crowd. Alan Haber smiled while holding fliers for Earth Day, wearing a tiny pin that simply read “SDS.”

The initials stood for The Students for a Democratic Society, a radical student organisation from the 1960s. Hader was its first president. Although others grew more moderate or conservative with age, Sanders and Hader continued to organise and agitate and wait for the crowd that might eventually form.

Those crowds got smaller and smaller for decades. Now the crowd was finally here and waiting for the first major presidential candidate in our lifetimes to call himself an unabashed socialist.

Supporters at a Bernie Michigan rally

Most of Sanders’ supporters would not be born for decades when he stormed the UChicago administrative building. However, they identified with this 78-year-old radical in a way that Joe Biden can only dream of. Before the rally, I found two students setting up the stage hours before Sanders would emerge.

Arden Shapiro and Hazel Gordon are precisely why the Democratic establishment is so worried about this movement – and so seemingly incapable of tapping into its energy. While they would vote for Biden if forced to in an election against Trump, they see Sanders as the only true and clear voice in the race.

Arden said that she was “really angry” about the level of corporate control in our system perpetrated by both parties. A trans woman, Hazel said that she saw Sanders as the only person truly fighting to help people secure medical insurance, particularly mental health coverage.

Hazel said that she viewed Biden as taking the side of corporations and did not support anything she believed in. Arden would later help introduce Sanders at the rally and called on her fellow students to bring five friends to the polling places to secure a win in Michigan over the establishment.

Others were even more direct. There were the guys distributing “Eat the Rich” T-shirts. Another supporter carried a sign reading “Make Racists Afraid Again”. Those images unnerve many traditional Democratic voters who see this movement as potentially careening out of control.

Sanders has never done particularly well with people of his own age. Many of those who once joined his causes in the 1960s are now worried about their 401k accounts and social security payments. Sanders had to wait for a new generation and they are here in droves. The problem for the Democratic party is that they are including leaders like Biden in their fight against the “establishment”.

Indeed Sanders drove home that point in his speech where he denounced Biden and his “billionaire backers” for trying to kill this movement. The only reference in the speech that drew greater boos than Biden was a reference to ICE raids.

For them, the future lies with Bernie and younger voices like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez who electrified the crowd. Whatever happens Tuesday, Sanders has found his audience and they are not going away. Sanders has shaped a rising generation that does not recoil from the term “socialism” and believes, as he did, that compromise only invites betrayal.

Every establishment figure now appears lined up against Sanders and over a dozen people told me that the concerted effort has only angered them more with the Democratic party. While half insisted that they would reluctantly vote for Biden if needed, half were not sure or outright refused to support Biden.

In other words, many are likely to stay at home. They are ready to storm the White House, the ultimate administrative building, for Bernie but not willing to walk into a polling place for Biden.

A woman at a Bernie rally holds up a sign

One former Michigan graduate wearing a homemade “Socialist Butterfly” jacket with Bernie’s picture on it said that she became a socialist after listening to Sanders in 2016. She is back again in 2020 with the same commitment. She still “feels the Bern” but feels nothing for Biden.

The Democratic establishment is hoping that the hatred for Trump will fill that void, but the co-ordinated effort against Sanders is only reaffirming the view that it is the establishment writ large that is the problem.

Jonathan Turley gives legal analysis for the BBC and is the Shapiro Professor of Public Interest Law at George Washington University. He was called as a Republican witness to testify at the Trump impeachment hearing before the House Judiciary Committee.

335 thoughts on “What Bernie Sanders Has That Joe Biden Doesn’t”

  1. (music)
    Sanders…Bernie Sanders…
    What kind of kids like Bernie Sanders?

    Fat kids, skinny kids…
    Kids who climb on rocks!

    Dumb bumbs, stupid crombs..
    Even kids with chicken pox..
    Like Bernie. Bernie Sanders..
    The dog..kids..like..to:. Bite!

  2. “Chinese Official Blames US For Introducing Coronavirus To Wuhan, Says US ‘Owes Us An Explanation’”

    A Chinese official suggested Thursday that U.S. officials introduced coronavirus into China’s Wuhan region as the virus makes its way to the West from the communist nation.

    “The director of the US Centers for Disease Control was arrested,” Lijian Zhao, deputy director of China’s Foreign Ministry Information Department, said in a tweet suggesting Centers For Disease Control Robert Redfield was apprehended by authorities. Redfield was not arrested.

    Zhao went on to accuse the U.S. of starting the pandemic. He added: “When did Patient Zero appear in the United States? How many people are infected? What is the name of the hospital? It may be that the US military brought the epidemic to Wuhan. America needs to be transparent! The United States owes us an explanation!”

    – Chris White DC

    1. The communists in China, facing profound economic obstacles and a revolution at home, launched an attack employing biological weapons against President Trump for the benefit of global communism including the communists (liberals, progressives, socialists, democrats) in America. What price will the communists in China pay? The communists in America, the direct and mortal enemies of America, have paid none.

  3. “The system is not really geared toward what we need right now. That is a failing. It is a failing, let’s admit it,” Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, told the House Oversight Committee.

    “The idea of anybody getting it, easily, the way people in other countries are doing it, we’re not set up for that,” Dr. Fauci said. “Do I think we should be? Yes, but we’re not.”

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/mar/12/anthony-fauci-says-us-behind-other-nations-testing/

    A friend contacted me 2 days ago to tell me he was scared he might have Coronavirus infection. He said he had a slight fever and a dry cough. So he ran huffing and puffing to the local doc-in-a-box center, and they told him to go home. It’s flu season, plus seasonal allergies are raging. But no, everyone wants attention and they think they are special. As if there were enough virus particles to infect everyone and their mother. If only!

    a meteor hitting Earth would be far more profitable, quicker and peaceful. Get it over with already.

    What’s that Injun dance to cause a meteor storm? Where’s Sen Liawatha when you need her

    1. M J, do you even know what you’re saying here? Fauci’s statement was grim. What part didnt you get?

      1. Tell us Paint Chips, how many people will die in the US from the virus in the next 6 months?

  4. Repeating From Lower Thread:

    Why Investors Spooked

    Trump’s speech last night actually spooked investors. They aren’t reassured. Trump kept squinting at the camera as though speaking against his will. Like he wanted his base to know it was all overblown. That doesn’t play with investors. It looks like the president is sneering at a crisis.

    Even for fine actors scenes like that are challenging. Asserting yourself as leader in a national emergency requires a statesman-like demeanor. Trump only plays against that type. His cynical braggart style is ill-suited for emergencies. And it seems investors saw that.

    1. Trump reads from a teleprompter like it’s a hostage statement. Didn’t pan out last night.

    2. All FFB (feces for brains) Trump wants to spend money on is the military and Israel. If he loses this election he earned it, period.

      Close the 800+ foreign military bases. Stop all military excursions. Bring the troops home. Spend all saved money on the people, especially health related items. No tax cuts for industry. Instead, all tax cuts directly to the taxpayers. No more government picking winners and losers like the 2008 depression industry bailouts.

      If anyone thinks this virus is not going to force single payer, you must be dumber than Trump.

  5. Video:

    https://twitter.com/BernieSanders/status/1238180790376202240

    “Bernie Sanders
    @BernieSanders

    It will be easy to feel like we are in this alone, or that we must only worry about ourselves and let everyone else fend for themselves.

    That would be a very dangerous mistake.

    We must remember that we are in this together.”

    *******

    Bernie Sanders is both authentic and presidential.

  6. Karen S, thank you. Zerohedge made it clear enough.

    — David B Benson

  7. Karen S, yes, about standing idle with all lights on.

    Thanks, David B Benson.

  8. “Michael Tracey
    @mtracey

    While everyone is understandably preoccupied with the escalating pandemic, Congress just conveniently rushed through yet another massive civil liberties infringement”

    https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1238223511124094977

    “Tulsi Gabbard
    @TulsiGabbard

    Unfortunately Congress just passed a bill allowing continuation of intel/law enforcement agencies to infringe on your civil liberties. Patriot Act & Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) needed real reforms to prevent these constitutional abuses. Congress failed to do this”

    1. see she is not only beautiful but wise. what a wonderful leader. America should embrace her. instead the lying press has her locked out in favor of a bunch of gasbags

    2. “Unfortunately Congress just passed a bill allowing continuation of intel/law enforcement agencies to infringe on your civil liberties. ” -Tulsi Gabbard

      Trump has said that he might veto it. Let’s hope he does.

  9. Karen S, can you document that last about Chinese factories? I would like to read it.

    1. Do you mean about their standing idle? I will try to find the article again.

  10. Has nobody else read TS Elliot?

    “We are the hollow men
    We are the stuffed men
    …
    This is the way the world ends
    …”

    1. that’s my cue to post a video i must have posted ten times before., why not ten more?

  11. The communists in China, facing profound economic obstacles and a revolution at home, launched an attack employing biological weapons against President Trump for the benefit of global communism including the communists (liberals, progressives, socialists, democrats) in America. What price will the communists in China pay? The communists in America, the direct and mortal enemies of America, have paid none.

    2. “This frightening article notes that markets are going “haywire” in a manner not normally seen in corrections.”
      ******************
      Dims are frightened of everything especially hard work, common sense, Caucasians, accountability, men and any semblance of fair play. Squawk on Chicken Little; we’re enjoying the Coward Show!

      1. Mespo, are you in a cave somewhere? This was the worst one day drop since 1987. That on top of several plunges. Apparently Trump’s speech spooked investors. They dont think he can manage this crisis.

        How are you getting phone reception in your cave?

        1. Seth:

          I find it illogical that at the same time people acknowledge that we have fewer cases than other countries, Democrats claim Trump is doing a bad job. He was right to condemn the premature repatriation of patients who later tested positive rather than keeping them in quarantine.

          The reason we still only have few cases is because of the travel bans (labeled xenophobic against Asia), the evacuation of our people from China (labeled paranoid), and all the other precautions. We have developed a workable assay kit to test for the virus. There are roughly 325 million people in the US, so it will take some time to have millions of the kits worked up. We are working on a vaccine, as I posted previously. We have given aid internationally, although last I checked China declined. The virus is uploaded for researchers to study online. With the rate of international travel, especially between the US and Asia and Europe, we would likely be experiencing the same high infection rates as these other continents were it not for the precautions that Democrats condemned as paranoid. Now they claim pleas not to panic is blowing it off. Basically, they have reverse polarity to anything Trump does or says.

          Unfortunately, China delayed its reaction, lied about the severity, and allowed people to travel outside Wuhan for way too long. Europe with its fairly open borders and frequent travel soon had a very serious problem.

          Meanwhile, inexplicably, Democrats claim that in spite of our low infection rates, Trump is doing nothing, all while agitating for open borders and sanctuary cities. All that’s missing is another Democrat-sponsored caravan of sick people trying to illegally cross.

          I have said numerous times that the entire world needs to make a coordinated effort at containment, quarantine, testing, and care. But there are still so many people who poo poo this as just another flu. People tell me they plan to take a cruise, they go to Disneyland, all the amusement parks, zoos. They think they’re healthy so why worry? Why, apparently, worry at people they must view as expendable, all those who face the odds of the disease they may carry home – 80% mild, 15% on oxygen, 5% on ventilators, death rate ranging from 1 – 6%, depending on location. That says nothing about being in the hospital for weeks, months of physical therapy, possibility of scarred lung tissue.

          There is no need to panic. No need to make a toilet paper fort. A calm, assertive approach of curtailing travel, closing schools a few weeks, canceling events, quieting social activities…a few months is all it would take and it would all blow over.

          The markets need to evolve to handle periodic pandemics. There was H1N1, SARS, and covid-19. There will be more. Each nation must be ready and willing to quarantine and close its borders. This requires enforceable borders. This is training for a plague. Covid-19 is not as bad as ebola, but far worse than a flu. Who knows what is on the pipeline to come at us in future?

          1. Karen, you answered your own challenge aimed at Democrats:

            Aided by Trump’s underselling of the threat- – 2 days ago he tried to pretend it was just like our normal flu season – too many Americans are not taking it seriously as you note.

            A unified global effort is difficult when Trump’s attempts at weaponizing the crisis ‐ first he tried to blame it on Obama, his VP defended his son for accusing Democrats of hoping millions of Americans will die, and just last night he blamed our situation on the EU – are the opposite of the serious and unifying effort that must be made. Why make enemies for no reason and fail to offer help and cooperation, especially to countries like Italy. We will pay for that nastiness, one way or the other.

            Regardless of the positive things accomplished by deep state administration employees, the incoherent and half false statements by Trump last night, together with his self promoting appearance at the CDC and general BS about the crisis, make him an obstacle to our dealing constructively and seriously with the problem.

        2. not trump but a massive global pandemic; not trump but a collapsing price of oil that will trigger shale oil business failures and financial contagion

          not trump but a federal reserve that didn’t have much rope to play out in the first place, after rate cutting and one QE after another– little dry powder to rush to the front.

          POTUS always takes the credit and the blame; whomever– but realistically it is complex system over which one many simply does not have much control. i have said this for years, decades, people don’t seem to listen

        3. Trump is effin’ done, put a fork in his carcass.

          Biden takes Hillary for VP, he resigns the day after his inauguration, and Hillary is finally Queen, woopee! You read it hear first. Or Biden’s VP (not Hillary) resigns the day after the inauguration, Biden appoint Hillary, Biden resigns the next day, same result.

          Bet that one of the above happens.

    3. Seth:

      Of course there is going to be a financial downturn in the world markets. Europe, Asia, and South America are farther into the outbreak. Our efforts have so far flattened the curve in the US. However, elsewhere, schools are closed, streets are deserted. Hospitals are in dire straights trying to accommodate everyone who needs chest X-rays, ventilators, and oxygen. One of the downsides of universal healthcare is that invariably their medical institutions lack sufficient equipment. That’s one the reasons for the long wait times.

      Here in the US, the NBA cancelled their games after a player tested positive. Ironically, that is the very player who jokingly touched all the microphones at a press conference previously, making fun of the precautions taken against covid-19. The NCAA, last I checked, was having its tournament, sans fans. Concerts are cancelled. Tom Hanks and his wife Rita are stuck in Australia, hospitalized with covid-19.

      When China takes a hit, so do the markets. The same holds true for Europe and North America. How could business continue to go full steam ahead when business travel is curtailed? When all the manufacturing centers in China are idle? There have been reports that China demands factories to stay open, so the supervisors keep the machinery running and the lights on, but tell the workers to stay home. That will affect the markets.

        1. It just started hitting them, and is now in Brazil, Peru, Chile, Ecuador, Bolivia, Argentina, Paraguay… El Salvador, Panama, and Peru just shut down all schools yesterday, I think it was. El Salvador also banned large gatherings. I don’t know how they will handle a pandemic.

          By far, Communist China has the worst cases, around 80,000, and thousands of deaths.

          I keep thinking about the people under the dictatorship of North Korea. So many have parasites and malnutrition as it is. What is going on over there?

      2. Karen, Trump’s speech last night actually spooked investors. They aren’t reassured. Trump kept squinting at the camera as though speaking against his will. Like he wanted his base to know it was all overblown. That doesn’t play with investors. It looks like the president is sneering at a crisis.

        Even for actors scenes like that are challenging. Asserting yourself as leader in a national emergency requires a statesman-like demeanor. Trump only plays against that type. His cynical braggart style is ill-suited for emergencies.

        1. what do you know about investing, Peter?

          give us one link to your Curriculum Vitae or heck, we’ll even take a single spaced, 12 point, 2 page resume on Linkedin.

          sorry, Grindr doesn’t count as a resume stuffer even if you like stuffing crap up your orificies

    1. Ray – do the math. Why do you think we have a fraction of the cases as Europe, Asia, and South America, given the frequency of usual travel between the US and these areas?

      Because of the preventative measures we’ve already taken. The goal is to flatten the curve of new infections. Too many patients all at once would overwhelm hospitals and resources. By slowing down the spread, it will hopefully remain at a manageable level.

      But perhaps you would prefer one of the open border Democrats who demand all illegal aliens be let in and keeping them at an ICE facility is inhumane. Just let everyone come in and mix immediately.

      1. Karen, because we have tested so few, texpert opinion is that we probably have many more cases than reported. Our response has been glacial to date. Our president has denied it’s a problem as recently as 2 days ago, and the CDC was not ready.

        1. ….the CDC was not ready.

          The nine most terrifying words in the English language are “I’m from the government, and I’m here to help.”
          – President Ronald W. Reagan

          Democrats love government “helping” our lives until it doesn’t work under a Republican president

          Don’t vote for Democrats…..ever

          1. M J you seem intent on proving yourself the most ignorant of fools. You have no idea what’s happening.

  14. But the Socialist Buttterflies didn’t show up to vote. They never do.

  15. Sanders talks “turdy turd and a turd.” That is his pronounciation of 33 Rd Street and Third Ave.

  16. Bernie has psychopaths supporting him, while Biden has “transgender” nut jobs who suffer from more psych issues than Joe & Hunter combined. But yeah, vote straight Dem ticket and those that do will be following the ways of former PFC Bradley Edward Manning now POS Chelsea Edelweiss Manning

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51852240

    “Chelsea Manning recovering after suicide attempt, lawyers say”

    Chelsea Manning, pictured here in May 2019, is refusing to testify before a grand jury
    Former US intelligence analyst Chelsea Manning is recovering in hospital after trying to take her own life, her legal team has said.

    Police confirmed there was “an incident” involving Manning, 32, at a detention centre in Virginia where she has been held since last May.

    Manning was remanded for contempt of court for refusing to testify before an inquiry into Wikileaks.

    She is due to appear before a court in Alexandria, Virginia, on Friday.

    Andy Stepanian, a spokesman for Manning’s legal team, said she continued to refuse to “participate in a secret grand jury process that she sees as highly susceptible to abuse”.

    “Her actions today evidence the strength of her convictions, as well as the profound harm she continues to suffer as a result of her ‘civil’ confinement,” Mr Stepanian said.

  17. Meanwhile The Dow Plunges

    Trump’s Oval Office Speech Did Nothing To Calm Markets.  ..Quite The Opposite..!

    Almost everything that could have gone wrong with the speech did go wrong. Stock futures began to crater as the president was speaking. Government officials were forced to correct the mistakes Trump made in describing his proposed travel ban. Anyone looking for information about the health-care system’s capacity to respond was left wanting.

    Trump said that “we have been in frequent contact with our allies” about the crisis, but European leaders were caught off guard by the new travel restrictions and issued a harsh statement in response. “The European Union disapproves of the fact that the U.S. decision to impose a travel ban was taken unilaterally and without consultation,” said the statement signed by two leaders of the E.U.

    This is a crisis not of the president’s making, but Trump has become the government’s least credible leader in responding to it. He is a cheerleader by nature, a president who is more comfortable dealing in exaggerations than facts. Trained scientists and medical doctors in government have sought to provide realistic assessments to the public. Trump has made false predictions and statements that contradict the experts.

    Visiting the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on Friday, Trump said tests for the virus were available to anyone who wanted one, a demonstrably false statement at the time as the government was rushing to get more tests out and available, as other officials were acknowledging.

    Trump went on to say those tests were totally reliable and, in a statement that revealed his own state of mind, drew a comparison with his telephone call to the Ukrainian president that led to his impeachment and acquittal. “The tests are all perfect, like the letter was perfect,” he said. “The transcription was perfect.”

    Vice President Pence, who is in charge of the overall federal response to the pandemic, has attempted to project a sense of calm and knowledgeability. He defers as is necessary to the experts in the government. But he also feels a need constantly to praise the president, as if Trump has truly been the stable, guiding hand in all this.

    Immediately after Trump spoke Wednesday night, the vice president and an official at the Department of Homeland Security clarified misleading or incorrect statements made during the speech. Asked about this Thursday morning on CNN, Pence replied, “I don’t think there was confusion,” and he went on to praise the president for more “historic” steps.

    Pence and those on the team tasked with coordinating the response are working cooperatively with state and local leaders, which is critical at this moment. Meanwhile, the president has called Gov. Jay Inslee (D) of Washington, where the outbreak has brought more deaths than anywhere in the country, “a snake.”

    The president looks to blame others. It’s correct that the Chinese government made all this worse by initially trying to cover up the outbreak, which contributed to the virus’s rapid spreading there and now around the world. But trying to make this into some kind of foreign invasion belies the nature of the pandemic.

    Trump blames Federal Reserve Chair Jerome H. Powell for the tanking stock markets. The Post reported Wednesday that an angry president ordered Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin to press Powell to take more-aggressive action to stimulate the economy. Never mind that the Fed’s first attempt to do so recently did nothing to prevent the markets from falling further.

    Edited From: “Trump’s Oval Office Speech Did The Opposite Of What It Was Supposed To Do”

    Today’s Washington Post

    1. Washington Post and Amazon employees work without just wages while you promote Jeff Bezo’s billionaire lifestyle. Not too bright are you?

      =====

      “Peeing in trash cans, constant surveillance, and asthma attacks on the job: Amazon workers tell us their warehouse horror stories”

      Jeff Bezos Amazon warehouse horror stories

      Several Amazon staff members from across the world have described to Business Insider the intense pressure of working in a warehouse, where they pick and pack items for delivery.

      One US worker described an “awful smell” coming from warehouse trash cans, saying coworkers would urinate in them for fear of missing their targets because they took too much time to go to the bathroom.

      Others said their short, timed breaks were reduced further as they waited in lines to go through security.

      Amazon pushed back on the accounts of warehouse working conditions, saying thousands of people want jobs picking and packing because of competitive pay and benefits.

      The company says that it has abolished penalties for taking time off and that it doesn’t time employees’ bathroom breaks.

      1. M J, you’re claiming the markets aren’t plunging today?? Everything is fine..? No need to worry..??

    2. Mr. Shill screams, “The sky is falling, the sky is falling!”

      Baron Rothschild said, “Buy when there’s blood in the streets.”

      Mr. Shill is afraid and rejects the American thesis of Freedom and Self-Reliance and endeavors daily, nay, hourly to nullify and

      abrogate the distinctly conservative “manifest tenor” of the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights.

      Mr. Shill would have his lame readers consume the tripe of that old communist rag, the Washington Post.

      Mr. Shill has a twisted view of, what was legislated to be, free America as a baby-killing, omnipotent and pervasive charitable

      organization.

      I wonder why.

      1. Anonymous, if you can find reassuring financial news, go ahead and post. I’m not seeing any.

        1. i’ll give you one thing. this is the end of the happy global supply chains. presumed to be more durable than they really were, what now we see a shortage of the necessary reagent to assemble testing kits, because an ingredient is made in china, like almost entirely; nations will take an obvious lesson and try and develop onshore manufacturing of strategic resources to stabilize supply in times of global emergency

          but see, Trump was already trying to deliver on that problem, for lots of different strategic industries and resources, before reagent supply was even on the list.

          not that you guys ever gave him credit for it, and you will drive a stake in his heart if you can and welcome back the same global financial whiz kids who sent it all off to china in the first place.

        2. Paint Chips, your knowledge of the economy leaves you always crying and probably reliant on someone else for your lifestyle. After 911 people were selling losing loads of money. Same with every other crisis. When one is winning they should be redistributing their gains elsewhere and when the market tanks they should be getting in.

          You live by emotions so you pee in your pants during a crisis and eat too much during good times. You have no understanding of economics and finance. If you depend on a pension for the future, look closely.

        3. people who don’t produce, who don’t work, who are takers, fakers and internet trolls will die first.

          it’s a glorious thing really.

          so yeah Peter, you’re up a sh!t without a paddle.

        4. 7 billion people are alive on this planet.

          They are going to do something.

          I want to participate in equity with those who do.

          I don’t want debt which provides only a “capped” return.

          I don’t want or need a “government” beyond the security and infrastructure which government is limited to by the Constitution and Bill of Rights – government exists only to facilitate the freedom of individuals.

          Your Communist Manifesto allows unlimited dictatorship, doesn’t it? Too bad it’s precluded in its entirety by American fundamental law.

      2. Buy when there’s blood in the streets only makes sense if the bleeding is slowing. Otherwise it’s like jumping headfirst into a woodchipper. When the market limits down three times in a few days after not doing it even once for almost 20 yrs. there’s not much to suggest a real momentum change.

        I invest in volatile markets. Look for a bounce up off some lows, wait for it to retrace down at least 50% and flatten out, then think about testing the waters. Buy now, with nothing to speak to a bottom formation, and it’s the height of gambling.

        We’re seeing now why Wall Street feared Trump and wanted HRC in ’16. It’s like that comedian said: watching Trump is like watching a horse running loose in a hospital…, no one knows what’s going to happen…, least of all the horse.

      1. oh ha anonymous you have no idea how well the COG plans are to take care of the Swamp chieftans

        Continuity of Government

        most of the details are classified

        now they have about 6 well stocked FEMA stockpiles in about 6 warehouses again not public information

        trust me that Deep State has plans to save itself

  19. One cannot be half pregnant and one cannot be half communist. Bernie Sanders and Joe Biden are communists. Communism, Bernie Sanders and Joe Biden are direct and mortal enemies of the U.S. Constitution, Bill of Rights and America.

    Bernie Sanders, Joe Biden and communists in America may legally pursue any and all forms of charity as free enterprise in the free markets of the private sector. Central planning, control of the means of production (regulation), redistribution of wealth and social engineering are irrefutably unconstitutional and their implementation requires the full nullification and abrogation of the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights.

    Karl Marx wrote the Communist Manifesto 59 years after the adoption of the Constitution because none of the principles of the Communist Manifesto were in the Constitution. Had the principles of the Communist Manifesto been in the Constitution, Karl Marx would have had no reason to write the Communist Manifesto. The principles of the Communist Manifesto were not in the Constitution then and the principles of the Communist Manifesto are not in the Constitution now.

    The entire communistic American welfare state is unconstitutional. Congress cannot tax for individual or specific welfare or redistribution of wealth; only “…general Welfare.” Congress cannot regulate anything other than money, the flow of commerce and land and naval Forces. Congress cannot interfere with in any way, or possess or dispose of, or claim or exercise dominion over private property, the right to which is provided by the 5th Amendment, is not qualified by the 5th Amendment and is, therefore, absolute.

    1. Like those hollow chocolate easter bunnies? There is nothing gooey and chewy inside. Just a thin shell of mediocre chocolate. Joe Biden? Bernie? Watch how Bernie crumbles and capitulates when someone takes a little bite out of him.

      Donald Trump has the gooey and chewey inside. Much more fun to sink your teeth into ‘something’ rather than biting into a thin hollow crumbling shell with nothing inside. This sums up our choices in the presidential election. I’m voting for gooey and chewey insides.

      1. @anonymous:

        You say “Donald Trump has the gooey and chewey inside. Much more fun to sink your teeth into ‘something’ rather than biting into a thin hollow crumbling shell with nothing inside. This sums up our choices in the presidential election. I’m voting for gooey and chewey insides.”

        Yeah, I think those Russian hookers said much the same thing.

        1. If only he had followed Bill Clinton’s lead on the Lolita “rape me some girls” Express, Trump could have had bragging and crowing rights to gooey & chewey whilst having the unhinged left genuflect to him just like Hillary did to Weinstein

          oh wait, that only happens to DemoRats….

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