Federal Court: New York Democrats Violated The Constitution By Cancelling The Presidential Primary

downloadDemocratic politicians like Sen. Chuck Schumer (D., N.Y.) have been railing against what they view as an undemocratic effort to suppress votes.  Former Vice President Joe Biden has even peddled a conspiracy theory that President Donald Trump was certain to halt the November election.  However, a New York judge has ruled that it is the Democratic party that violated the Constitution in cancelling the June 23rd presidential primary to effectively anoint Biden as the party nominee. What was particularly striking was the highly dubious argument presented in court by the Democratic Party.

U.S. District Judge Analisa Torres ruled that the Democratic Party violated the First and 14th Amendment rights of candidates like Sen. Bernie Sanders by cancelling the primary.  What was transparently opportunistic was the rationale.  The Democratic Party argued that they needed to cancel the primary because of the danger of the coronavirus. However, it was still planning to hold its congressional and state-level primaries on June 23.

Judge Torres wrote that

“If all but one of the presidential candidates are removed from the ballot and the primary is not held, Delegate Plaintiffs will be deprived of the opportunity to compete for delegate slots and shape the course of events at the Convention, and voters will lose the chance to express their support for delegates who share their views. The loss of these First Amendment rights is a heavy hardship . . . There is also a strong public interest in permitting the presidential primary to proceed with the full roster of qualified candidates.”

Sanders had petitioned New York to remain on the primary ballot.

The move by the New York Democrats was particularly resented by Sanders’ supporters after the Democratic National Committee effectively rigged the primary to guarantee the nomination of Hillary Clinton in 2016.  This year, the party establishment was equally active in working against Sanders. (and here) Hillary Clinton has actively opposed Sanders. The decision of the party only reenforced the view of many Sanders’ supporters that the party only believed in the democratic process when the results are acceptable to the party establishment. That view was stated repeatedly to me at the last major campaign rally of Sanders in Michigan.

The question for Biden will be whether the current controversy over the allegations of sexual assault will impact the voting in the primary.

98 thoughts on “Federal Court: New York Democrats Violated The Constitution By Cancelling The Presidential Primary”

  1. Democrats are above the law! I can’t believe a Federal Court rules against the “Holier Than Thou”. Couldn’t find any Judges appointed by Obama?

  2. “You can’t handle the truth!”

    – Colonel Jessup
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    You can’t grasp or handle the depth, breadth and truth of American freedom. The People are the Sovereign. Government is the Subject of the Sovereign. The Constitution provides maximal freedom to individuals and severely limits and restricts government to its role of merely facilitating the maximal freedom of individuals. Charity and regulation are conducted in the free markets of the private sector.
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    “Federal Court: New York Democrats Violated The Constitution By Cancelling The Presidential Primary”

    – Professor Turley

    OMG! Seriously? You just said that. This is a joke, right? The entity which has violated the Constitution is the Supreme Court, the singular American failure. The duty of the Supreme Court was only ever to declare void, all acts contrary to the manifest tenor of the Constitution. Imagine, Supreme Court justices are superior intellectuals but have no grasp of the “manifest tenor” or their basic duty. Communists (liberals, progressives, socialists, democrats, RINOs) have violated the Constitution by imposing the welfare state and the Supreme Court has upheld it.

    – Article 1, Section 8 prohibits any and all taxation for individual or specific welfare, charity or redistribution of wealth.

    – Article 1 Section 8 prohibits regulation beyond that of money, the flow of commerce and land and naval Forces.

    – The 5th Amendment provides the absolute right to private property and allows no claim or exercise of dominion by Congress.

    General Welfare – ALL PROGRESS WELL. The only constitutional taxation, other than for security, is for “…general Welfare…” such as roads, water, electricity, sewer, trash pick-up, post office, etc. General is defined as ALL, not one, a few or some.

    The entire American welfare state is one grand violation of the Constitution and Bill of Rights. Affirmative action, quotas, welfare, food stamps, rent control, social services, forced busing, minimum wage, utility subsidies, WIC, TANF, HAMP, HARP, TARP, Agriculture, Commerce, Education, Labor, Energy, Obamacare, Social Security, Social Security Disability, Social Security Supplemental Income, Medicare, Medicaid, “Fair Housing” laws, “Non-Discrimination” laws, etc., are all unconstitutional.
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    “[A] limited Constitution … can be preserved in practice no other way than through the medium of courts of justice, whose duty it must be to declare all acts contrary to the manifest tenor of the Constitution void. Without this, all the reservations of particular rights or privileges would amount to nothing … To deny this would be to affirm … that men acting by virtue of powers may do not only what their powers do not authorize, but what they forbid.”

    – Alexander Hamilton
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    “Private property is that dominion which one man claims and exercises over the external things of the world, in exclusion of every other individual.”

    – James Madison

  3. The Dear Leader told the party that NO primary was needed for the Presidential nomination. Guess what happened. Did Republican voters get a chance to decide? Another Turley moment of look over there, look what the Democrats are doing to constitutional law, and crickets when Trump goes to his private properties and has taxpayers pay the bill for his golf. And campaign rallies.

    1. Fish, that’s absolutely on the mark. Republicans didn’t want to give anyone a chance to challenge Trump for the nomination.

      Yet we’re supposed to think, “Aw, poor Bernie”

    2. Trump turns his paycheck over to charities because the law forces Presidents to take pay.
      We have paid room, travel, the whole ticket for every President and their families and pay for most all politicians.
      Don’t crab about President Trump if you aren’t about all the other crap especially since he donates his pay.

  4. Comment of mine, “swallowed” here, and has disappeared without appearing. So, here again:

    Important one, but, just worth to note some here:

    First, this in not final ruling. That wasn’t on merits, but rather, for intermediate relief ( preliminary injunction).

    Second, most of the candidates, voluntarily, by their own initiative, had suspended or removed their candidacy, I quote from the ruling:

    ” Over the course of February, March, and April, however, ten out of the eleven presidential contenders ” publicly announced that they are no longer seeking the nomination for the office of president of the United states, or that they are terminating or suspending their campaign ”

    The judge indeed, asserted that, in many states, there is that fight against the Coronavirus, not only in NY, but, not to forget, that the fact is, that the rate of infections, is far greater in NY, so, had to be incorporated, within the discretion of balance of hardship made by the judge.

    One can reach the ruling, here:

    https://www.courthousenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/NYPrimary-INJ.pdf

    P.S: The citation brought in the post, is not from the current ruling, but, brought by the judge, from “Rockefeller” another previous ruling from the Second Circuit.

    Thanks

  5. Is Turley Really Concerned For Bernie,?

    Or Worried For Trump??

    The Professor has ignored stories pertaining to Trump’s reelection campaign; which by all accounts is in a state turmoil.

    Trump’s campaign had planned to use the slogan ‘Keep America Great’. But that motto may not work with 20% Unemployment. So what’s an incumbent to do? ..’Blame China’..? Why ‘yes’, of course, weeks of blaming China will convince Americans that Trump deserves 4 more years to start a civil war!

    But Trump realistically Trump knows he may not get 4 more years to start a civil war. So he may have to complete this mission by January. That may explain why Trump keeps threatening to prevent any federal rescue of the states. Trump wants us to think that such a rescue would ‘reward blue states for their fiscal irresponsibility’.

    You see if Trump can convince his base that blue states want a rescue at the ‘expense’ of red states, that could possibly stoke just enough anger to start a civil war. Keep in mind that most are on their way to bankruptcy due to the pandemic. So now is the ideal time for Trump, and senate Republicans, to make a rescue of the states the most contentious issue possible.

    1. Turley has learned from the Dear Leader, gaslight the base and when they get the fumes, they will follow them anywhere. Turley has used his blog like Barr used the summary of the Mueller report.

    2. “Is Turley Really Concerned For Bernie,? Or Worried For Trump??”

      Neither. Who uped your dose of lead, Paint Chips?

    3. “You see if Trump can convince his base that blue states want a rescue at the ‘expense’ of red states, that could possibly stoke just enough anger to start a civil war. Keep in mind that most are on their way to bankruptcy due to the pandemic.”

      That is exactly what the blue states want. Haven’t you noticed their hands out? Too many blue states are fiscally mismanaged. NYState is as is NYC. Let those states pay for their inability to control their own costs.

  6. Important one, but, just worth to note some here:

    First, this in not final ruling. That wasn’t on merits, but rather, for intermediate relief ( preliminary injunction).

    Second, most of the candidates, voluntarily, by their own initiative, had suspended or removed their candidacy, I quote from the ruling:

    ” Over the course of February, March, and April, however, ten out of the eleven presidential contenders ” publicly announced that they are no longer seeking the nomination for the office of president of the United states, or that they are terminating or suspending their campaign ”

    The judge indeed, asserted that, in many states, there is that fight against the Coronavirus, not only in NY, but, not to forget, that the fact is, that the rate of infections, is far greater in NY, so, had to be incorporated, within the discretion of balance of hardship made by the judge.

    One can reach the ruling, here:

    https://www.courthousenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/NYPrimary-INJ.pdf

    P.S: The citation brought in the post, is not from the current ruling, but, brought by the judge, from “Rockefeller” another previous ruling from the Second Circuit.

    Thanks

  7. If Democrats cancelled all primaries and events around that time frame, they could have truthfully said they were obeying social distancing laws. Since they didn’t, this is yet another underhanded trick against Bernie Sanders.

    I do not support Bernie Sanders. That doesn’t matter. The rules need to apply equally to everyone. If the Democrat Party wants the right to decline certain candidates running as Democrats, then they need to encode that in the rules, and tell them no at the beginning. Instead, they allowed Bernie Sanders to run, spend all that money, and then keep doing dirty tricks to keep him out.

    The country does need to develop a way to function during a pandemic. While I have made clear that I do not want quarantine lifted until there are N95s aplenty, and an approved treatment, I am in a high risk group. I have asthma. I have a kid and I certainly don’t want him exposed to any disease associated with lung and heart damage. My husband is healthy but I don’t want him sick, either. If anyone in my family comes down with Covid-19, I’ll take care of them. With my asthma, I doubt I’d make it. I want to keep this disease away from my entire family.

    However, it is not Ebola, with its 50% mortality rate. It’s not Smallpox. But it could be. There are still samples of smallpox kept in two labs that I know of. One of them is in Russia. There is no way there are only two. These are the days of genetic engineering. There will be more plagues, and our global connectivity will guarantee they will spread rapidly.

    I was disappointed to see Congress continuing to operate in person. The press gaggle still crowded around. Eventually, they started putting empty chairs around them, but they are still clustered together in halls and breathing the same air.

    As terrible as Covid-19 has been for us and other countries, it is practice for bigger and worse on the event horizon.

    We have got to learn from this experience. Grocery stores have got to be able to smoothly transition to no contact delivery, shipping, and curbside pickup. They have to be able to get groceries to customers without requiring in person shopping. Our government and court system must figure out how to keep running during epidemics, without requiring people show up in person. Prisons have long been disease dispersement systems with MRSA a long standing problem. Here in CA, they have repeatedly emptied jails over the years, most lately due to Covid-19. Crime is getting rampant. Police don’t even respond to a lot of shop lifting, as the felony threshold is now $950. That recent Turley post about the guy arrested thrice in a day is not even that unheard of.

    Most of all, our economy has to adapt to survive during shutdowns. That means that employers who can, need to develop work at home alternatives ahead of time. The food supply chain must be able to transition from restaurant sizing to individual consumer packaging. No more potato and milk dumping when people need groceries. Crowded worker conditions in food plants are sources of contagion. I foresee more automation and job losses in future, sadly.

  8. “s an undemocratic effort to suppress votes”

    Not sure what that has to do with it under the law but it certainly seems anti-Constitutional since there were federal level races involved.

    Maybe the reason for the fox paw effort was to save lives for the general election since at the federal level those behind this manuever have no chance at all. No Candidates worth discussing no chance to ….

    Hmmmm May have hit on something

  9. Socialist Bernie Sanders not only can’t do math, he has no perception of what’s going on around him. The democrat party establishment has absolutely no use for him, but he will be a good loyal party man. Who needs primaries anyway?

  10. PS JT is liar and propagandist. He wrote above:

    “the Democratic National Committee effectively rigged the primary to guarantee the nomination of Hillary Clinton in 2016.”

    That is completely false. Sanders lost to Hillary because Democratic primary voters picked her by 55-43%. If JT wants to try and explain his convenient conspiracy theory he should try that, but otherwise he’s maligning Democratic voters, not the DNC. He’s full of s… and everything he writes in vthis column is now suspect. He’ll say anything, anytime.

    1. Anon – you do realize that Hillary and the DNC were one and the same in 2016. JT is right and you are having memory problems.

      1. The DNC did not pick the party candidate you simpleton, the voters did in clean uncontested primary elections and caucuses. If JT has evidence otherwise he should produce it, because his claim has never been backed up by anyone, though regularly supported by low information commentators like you, JT, Bernie Bros, and Trump cultists.

        1. You might want to go whine to Donna Brazille instead.

          “Gary, how did they do this without me knowing?” I asked. “I don’t know how Debbie relates to the officers,” Gary said. He described the party as fully under the control of Hillary’s campaign, which seemed to confirm the suspicions of the Bernie camp. The campaign had the DNC on life support, giving it money every month to meet its basic expenses, while the campaign was using the party as a fund-raising clearinghouse. Under FEC law, an individual can contribute a maximum of $2,700 directly to a presidential campaign. But the limits are much higher for contributions to state parties and a party’s national committee.

          1. Hillary propped up the DNC financially, not visa versa you idiot. Show us the beef of DNC corrupting the primaries or shut up.

            1. It’s your f*cked party, you prove to Sanders and the party bosses why they shouldn’t believe what they do. Good luck.

                1. I’ve got nothing to cure your illness. Keep digging, after 4 years, surely you’ll find evidence to prove one of your truths.

              1. OLLY – two nights ago I was having my computer tuned by a guy in Wisconsin and we were talking about the Summer of Love that is coming to Milwaukee. They are definitely nervous about the Bernie Bros.

        2. 1. The DNC actively strategized against Bernie Sanders. For example, Debbie Wasserman Schultz removed Sanders’ access to the DNC voter files database. DNC staff conspired with the media to discredit Bernie Sanders.

          “In its recent leak of 20,000 DNC emails from January 2015 to May 2016, DNC staff discuss how to deal with Bernie Sanders’ popularity as a challenge to Clinton’s candidacy. Instead of treating Sanders as a viable candidate for the Democratic ticket, the DNC worked against him and his campaign to ensure Clinton received the nomination.”

          ““Wondering if there’s a good Bernie narrative for a story, which is that Bernie never ever had his act together, that his campaign was a mess,” wrote DNC Deputy Communications Director Mark Paustenbach to DNC Communications Director Luis Miranda, in response to backlash over DNC Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz shutting off the Sanders campaign’s access to voter database files.”

          “Another chain reveals MSNBC’s Chuck Todd and DNC staff members discussing how to discredit MSNBC’s Mika Brzezinski’s call for Wasserman Schultz to resign.”

          The release provides further evidence the DNC broke its own charter violations by favoring Clinton as the Democratic presidential nominee, long before any votes were cast.

          “Over the past several weeks, Guccifer 2.0 released several internal memos showing DNC staff strategizing to make Clinton the presidential nominee—as early as March 2015. In June 2016, Florida-based law firm, Beck & Lee, filed a class action lawsuit against Wasserman Schultz and the DNC based on the revelations from these leaked files.”

          https://observer.com/2016/07/wikileaks-proves-primary-was-rigged-dnc-undermined-democracy/

          1. Karen, Sanders sued the DNC over the supposed Data issue, but later withdrew it after it was proven Sander’s campaign had stolen Hillary data, not DNC.

            “After Bernie Sanders’ presidential campaign was disciplined by the Democratic National Committee for improperly accessing the Hillary Clinton campaign’s proprietary voter database, documents obtained and reviewed by NBC News appeared to show that at least four individuals affiliated with the Sanders campaign conducted searches and saved the Clinton campaign’s lists of potential voters over a period of more than 40 minutes….National data Director Josh Uretsky, the staffer who was fired, told MSNBC in an interview that he takes responsibility for the incident but that he did not believe accessing the data was wrong.

            “We didn’t use [the data] for anything valuable and we didn’t take custodianship of it,” Uretsky said, arguing that he was trying to document the existence of the security breach but not exploit it…”

            https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/bernie-sanders-campaign-penalized-dnc-after-improperly-accessing-clinton-voter-n482341

            Nothing else in your post has an ounce of substance.

        3. 2. “Other emails show DNC staff in damage control over allegations from the Sanders campaign, when a report—corroborated by a Politico—revealed the DNC’s joint fundraising committee with the Clinton campaign was laundering money to the Clinton campaign instead of fundraising for down-ticket Democrats. Regardless of the fundraising tactics, because both major campaigns didn’t agree to use the joint fundraising committee super-PAC with the DNC, the DNC should have recused itself from participating with just the Clinton campaign.”

          Source (same Wikileaks article posted in #1)

      2. Yep, she took over their budget lock stock and barrel. What an incredible move. If Bernie were that smart and that immune from prosecution for misdeads and crimes, he might live to be President, but…no.

    2. “That is completely false. Sanders lost to Hillary because Democratic primary voters picked her by 55-43%. ”

      That doesn’t pertain to Turley’s comment. Turley doesn’t say she wouldn’t have won. He says the DNC “effectively rigged the primary to guarantee ”

      You owe your host an apology. JT is honest. You just don’t like his opinion even though the opinion comes from one who is center left.

    3. That is not false – there are literally transcripts of this happening – read the emails that were released when the DNC was hacked. They were actively working to screw Bernie. This is a fact that cannot be disputed.

                1. Why intelligent people engage with you is beyond me?

                  🤣 Well duh. Because intelligent people are beyond you. Unless that was your daily journal entry and then the question makes sense.

                2. I believe Joe Biden. And that’s all I’m going to say about it!

                  PS this is the Democrats talking point. How many times have we heard it so far? Pelosi? check. Whitmer? check. Who else?

      1. “there are literally transcripts of this happening – read the emails that were released when the DNC was hacked. They were actively working to screw Bernie. This is a fact that cannot be disputed.”

        Anon (btb) can form words and read words but he has a lack of understanding what the words actually mean.

    4. Bythebook – several of us have presented information to you about how, exactly, the DNC rigged the primary against Bernie Sanders. You just ignore it and keep parroting your position that it was all made up. You ignore the facts, which means, at some level, you must realize you are not being truthful.

      Compounding your error is grossly insulting our host.

      This is wrong. And ironic.

      1. No, you haven’t Karen because it doesn’t exist. Here is what has been presented:

        Debbie W-S complains in emails about being criticized to her aide and asks that she push back. What a monster!

        Another campaign higher-up – forgot name – suggests Bernie’s atheism and Judaism be brought up. No one agrees with him, no one institutes this policy, he eventually leaves. (Debbie W-S and others in the campaign are Jewish)

        Donna Brazille gives Hillary hot tip that debate in Flint will have questions about water. Hellloooo!

        Hillary loans DNC money. DNC does not loan Hillary money.

        If you’ve got something else. bring it.

    5. #4 Bernie Sanders lost because super delegates chose Hillary Clinton. And they’ll do so again.

      “Dozens of interviews with Democratic establishment leaders this week show that they are not just worried about Mr. Sanders’s candidacy, but are also willing to risk intraparty damage to stop his nomination at the national convention in July if they get the chance. Since Mr. Sanders’s victory in Nevada’s caucuses on Saturday, The Times has interviewed 93 party officials — all of them superdelegates, who could have a say on the nominee at the convention — and found overwhelming opposition to handing the Vermont senator the nomination if he arrived with the most delegates but fell short of a majority.”

      https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/27/us/politics/democratic-superdelegates.html

      1. Karen, the super delegates did not decide the Democratic candidate, the voters – who went for Hillary over Bernie by 55% -43% did that. If the super delegates had somehow gone for Bernie, that would have been corrupt. In fact, the super delegates in 2008 went from mostly supporting Hillary to Obama because he won the primaries.

        This is another BS charge for LIV.

    6. #5 “Brazile took over the DNC as interim chair following Debbie Wasserman Schultz’s sudden resignation during the Democratic National Convention. Once she was at the party’s helm, Brazile wrote that she discovered an agreement that “specified that in exchange for raising money and investing in the DNC, Hillary would control the party’s finances, strategy, and all the money raised. Her campaign had the right of refusal of who would be the party communications director, and it would make final decisions on all the other staff.””

      https://www.npr.org/2017/11/03/561976645/clinton-campaign-had-additional-signed-agreement-with-dnc-in-2015

      1. Karen, tell us the “decisions” Hillary made which made the primaries unfair and rigged. This is another empty allegation.

      1. Karen, Hillary loned the DNC money. It did not loan her money. Absent proof – not mind reading – of improper “control of operations”, there’s nothing there. Show us the beef.

        1. Anon – Hillary siphoned money from the DNC into her coffers. Money that was supposed to be for down-ticket candidates.

        2. Hillary was still sucking money out of her supporters years after her first failed presidential campaign! She had the money to pay it off herself, but instead she kept asking her supporters for help paying it off. She even auctioned off “lunch with Bill” for a donation. YEARS after her failed campaign Hillary was STILL hitting up her donors for $5 or $10 or $500 bucks!!! It was disgusting. And it showed how poorly Hillary managed her campaign funds. She is and always was, a disaster walking. Open your dam eyes.

    7. If you couldn’t see that the DNC was in the bag for Hillary they you’re the exact type of person they were trying to convince, and did. It was so obvious a blind person could see it and many did.

  11. The Democrats are exclusionary. They don’t want Bernie. They unceremoniously removed him in 2016 and now they tried again for 2020 using a retroactive law. Will Bernie supporters wake up and learn they are not wanted in the Democratic Party?

    1. I have BernieBros in my family. Their dispositions are such that it would be a challenge to move any of them into the Republican column. I’d like that, but it would require some incremental adjustments in the Republican stance that would need time to percolate through the culture. Some of them also need to stop confusing irritations and disappointments that are embedded in the human condition (which they imagine aren’t based on a potted idea of life in Sweden) with actual injuries done to people.

      I’d also like to see incremental erosion in the Democratic lock on the black vote. The way forward in that realm I think would be a cultural shift wherein rank-and-file blacks understand society and history in light of their mundane lives and not in light of social propaganda. The last flip of the political ecosystem in the black population occurred very rapidly – really over the period running from 1960 to 1964. Just returning to the situation ex ante (wherein Republicans got 30% of the black vote rather than 10%) would be beneficial to all concerned in this environment.

      1. Absurd, are these the same Bernie Bro relatives who thought Obama was ‘too liberal’?

        Bros like that are the entire reason Democrats shun Bernie.

        1. Absurd, are these the same Bernie Bro relatives who thought Obama was ‘too liberal’?

          Huh?

          In re the people in question, they’ve never taken much of an interest in Obama, though I think they voted for him. (It’s perfectly understandable they don’t take much of an interest in him. He’s an empty suit).

          1. Absurd, just the other day you were saying that these Bernie Bro relatives did not believe Obama was ‘light Republican’. And that made me wonder if they considered Obama ‘too liberal’.

      2. TIA, read a history book. Blacks went for FDR by 71% in 1932 and have never looked back.

        Reading this blog with the large number of racist GOP posters, not hard to see that party’s problem.

      3. DSS, It’s a matter of chipping away at what today I sadly call an enemy along with decreasing voices that activate other people.

        I know people that supported Bernie and voted for Trump. You will even see them at some rallies. I hate the idea of the black vote, the Jewish vote, etc., but that is what happens when Democrats are involved. Would you like to make a bet on the black vote next election. I think Trump will increase the black vote by a minimum of 50% and maybe even double or (doubtful) triple the 10% standard vote. I think some blacks will stay home and not vote Democrat while others will change party and vote Republican. That means the number of black voters might change.

        1. Sorry, not making any bets.

          I hate the idea of the black vote, the Jewish vote, etc., but that is what happens when Democrats are involved.

          No, that’s what happens when different communal groups have a different distribution of interests and sentiments. It’s only a disagreeable thing when it is identity-driven. unresponsive to circumstances. a function of animosity, or some combination of the foregoing.

          1. ” It’s only a disagreeable thing when it is identity-driven. unresponsive to circumstances. a function of animosity, or some combination of the foregoing.”

            That is what I hate, Identity politics.

  12. The DNC, DCCC etc. are despicable corporate blue dawg elites and it is on their shoulders, and theirs alone that the nation is being destroyed by the fascist psychopath trump and his cult. A damn soi dog could have beaten that bloated orange fascist but they put the despicable hated clinton in over Bernie. She was the only person that could have lost to him. They are bought and sold by the big corporations, Wall Street criminals and banksters. They worry not about the nation, they worry about their power. You know like the repugthuglicans. They have ruined the Democratic Party which was at one time the party of FDR’s New Deal. They know if somebody like Bernie or AOC gets in power they are out the window, and hopefully that window is about 50 stories up.

      1. Nope, don’t like cats, not many dogs although I owned a few that were some of the best ever. A German Shepherd. I and an Army K-9 handler taught her. You did not attempt to touch me or my children. Forget the hand, she was taught the throat. My old lab that I crawled out on the ice to pull out when he would not give up “his duck” and use his teeth to grab a hold. Well below zero but I always carried emergency rations, blankets etc. in my truck. I wrapped him up and turned the heater on high, unloaded and went home. I never hunted ducks again. Without him, it wasn’t the same. He couldn’t tell the difference between a shotgun and a rifle and when I’d leave the house with my rifle, or rifles he made sure I knew he want to go. Oh, I ate the duck.

        In fact I don’t like very many people and don’t like right wingers in particular. Plain vanilla liberals, ugh. Most of my real friends are dead, killed by Agent Orange.

        I do love my Lao lady and the children. It will be a happy reunion when the border is open again. I’m a one woman man, unless she picks one to share but she quit that.

        Hey I used to like the ladies but I’ve seen the light and given up my philandering ways. You do believe that, right? After all I would no more lie than our liar in chief.

        Oh wait I thought of one, I like beer, I like beer a lot, I want to be a Supreme Court Justice but I only like beer I don’t attempt to rape women so I don’t qualify. Yep, I like beer, I like beer a lot. Preferably Beer Lao.

        Thanks Mr. Kurtz, I forgot…lol. I’ve been here a long time and wouldn’t be anywhere else.

        Sometimes the posters on here are so much fun…lol. The English guys I know would have blast taking the piss out on you folks…lol.

        1. The English guys I know would have blast taking the piss out on you folks…lol.
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          Before or after they doffed their tu-tus? Good on you for recognizing the value of the German Shepherd.

        2. You said long ago that your Lao lady was your mistress. Not a gik but a mia noi. That is not a “one woman man.” What happened to your minor wife? It is troubling that so many of the choices available to Thai women are determined by a society that has a long history of polygamy. So many of their decisions are economic, no matter what they say. Society pressures the first wife to play along. To keep it private.

          https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/special-reports/1330319/men-and-their-mistresses

          1. Got another one…lol. Gotta luv these folks. So gullible, so eager to make fools out of themselves.

            Wow you are really slow. “I do love my Lao lady and the children. It will be a happy reunion when the border is open again. I’m a one woman man, unless she picks one to share but she quit.” You might try reading again. By the way, we cannot marry. Lao commie rule. Besides, I’m not ruining another good relationship…lol.

            I am divorcing. I have not lived or slept with my Thai wife for years. My Thai wife was stealing from me, again. I suspected for years but recently acquired the proof. Gambling we believe. Now that Thailand can start to open, we had 3 new virus cases in the Kingdom yesterday,migrant workers in detention down south, the courts are back and my attorney has set a court date. She is in hiding from the mafia and other bill collectors. Mafia paid me a visit trying to collect on her debt, I do believe they learned they will not get one satang from this old man. Unlike America, I am not responsible for my wife’s debts and the courts here do not automatically favor the woman. I hold no animosity against my wife, will not try to send her to prison for theft. She had been a good mother to her children and daughter to her parents. But you know nothing and you will never know.

            Mia noi is minor wife, Mia is a wife, please if you know not of what you speak, don’t put your foot in your mouth. Besides your jealousy is showing. How terrible, an old farang with a young Asian woman…lol. Most American women that would come here with their/your attitude would receive not a slap but a fist upside the head from a Thai man.

            What do you think I came back to SE Asia for, temples…lol I came for the sex, booze and parties. Oh jeez, another fool that believes what they read about sex in Thailand. Unlike America, women rule the sex and they know how to get what they want without being the bitch American women are. They are good to their man and in return most men want to be good for them. Oh please tell me women in American don’t make decisions on economics…lol. Hey Dorothy, this isn’t Kansas. Don’t ever underestimate a Thai or any Asian woman.

            Oh and the majority of sex work is not farang to Thai, Lao etc. It is and always has been for centuries Thai. Damn I luv ignorant people that think they know what they will never know or understand. Never in a thousand life times.

    1. LOL Sarge nobody knows what soi dog means here except me.

      I’ll translate your farang dialect

      Alley dog

  13. JT, you dumb hack. Listen to me. The GOP has cancelled primaries this year and before the virus crisis.

    1. Btb:
      “Dumb hack” ? Talk about projection.
      Ingratitude is a character flaw. Get to work on that along with other ones like pomposity and claiming to know things you can’t possibly understand.

      1. mespo, you dumb hack. Listen to me. The GOP has cancelled primaries this year and before the virus crisis.

    2. Against the will of the candidate Bernie Sanders the Democratic Party tried to remove his name from the ballot by passing a law and using it retroactively. Democrats in power are cheaters.

  14. I recall a sermon by a minister relating to marriage when he said ‘what does love have to do with it’ meaning you learn the meaning of real love over time in a marriage. But, in this situation the federal and state legislators frequently ignore the constitution. One of our members told their state legislator when she met with him ‘you know this bill goes against the Tennessee constitution’ and he had that deer in the headlights look. Any and all human beings who touch proposed legislation should be ‘mandated’ to have read and passed a test on the state and U.S. Constitution. So, again, what does the constitution have to do with it?

  15. Since when did violating either the Constitution or any rule of law bother the democrat party in the least. Nothing new to see here, just business as usual for the party of corruption and lawlessness.

  16. You should have mentioned both political parties have cancelled state primaries. There is history and this isn’t new. The omission of facts is unacceptable.

    1. What facts did you omit Lee? Did Turley misrepresent the facts in this post regarding the Democratic party? Was the Republican party cited in the federal court’s decision and Turley omitted it from his post? Perhaps you should simply write whatever post you prefer. Better yet, get your own blog.

    2. Les, Turley didn’t omit facts you did. This was not a matter of cancelling the primary rather a matter of removing a candidate from the ballot who didn’t want his name removed. My understanding is that once Sanders name was removed then perhaps they could cancel the primary.

      Are you saying that Sanders name could be removed because of a law that would be retroactive?

      “However, on April 13, New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D) signed an appropriations bill that included a new provision giving the State Board of Elections discretion to remove a candidate from the ballot if they have suspended their campaign.

      The Sanders campaign lawyers are arguing that the Vermont senator suspended his campaign under the assumption that he could remain on the ballot and that the new stipulation should not be retroactively enforced.

      Seymour argued that the Sanders campaign went to great lengths to get on the ballot for the New York primary, which was originally scheduled for April 28 but has been postponed until June 23 because of the coronavirus pandemic.”

      https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/494815-sanders-petitions-new-york-to-remain-on-primary-ballot

      1. Allan,

        I see your point as it relates to Senator Sanders and no I’m not suggesting his name should have been removed from the ballot. However, I am suggesting it would have been helpful to readers to provide a brief overview of previous primaries cancelled in various states by both parties.

        1. Why would that be helpful? Were the other primaries and other parties included in the suit? How far back would you need JT go for you to have your personal needs met?

        2. Why?

          I don’t presently care what the DNC does, but Bernie Sanders cared and that is what counts. That is what demonstrates the lack of Constitutional commitment the Democrat Party has.

      2. Now you see how these guys operate. There is, apparently, nothing they won’t do to get back in power in the way that they want to, including making themselves look like lying dumb crooks, which they are. Speaking of lying dumb crooks, what have Nadler and Schiff been up to lately?

    3. Les, I agree. You should not accept it by exiting the comments section until Turley reforms himself.

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