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The Shader Sisters: Two Women Arrested After Molotov Cocktail Is Thrown Into Van With Four Officers [Updated]

Two sisters have been arrested after a Molotov cocktail was thrown into a NYPD van with four officers inside. Samantha Shader, 27, of Catskill, NY, is charged with throwing the incendiary device, which did not explode.  Her sister, Darian, 21, (left) then allegedly tried to stop the arrest of Samantha Shader.  The police have hit Samantha Shader with a slew of major charges including attempted murder of a police officer, attempted arson, assault on a police officer, criminal possession of a weapon and reckless endangerment.  Her sister faces charges of resisting arrest and obstruction of governmental administration. (The Daily Mail has released these pictures from social media allegedly showing the two sisters).  Update: Media is reporting that Shader admitted to her attack on the police.  The police have released a picture of Shader throwing the Molotov cocktail.

Police say that Samantha Shader threw the device through a rear window of the van.  She then allegedly bit an officer on the leg as they struggled to arrest her.  When her sister attempted to intervene, she was also arrested.

Perhaps some of our New York lawyers could help us with a code issue. I was able to find attempted murder in the second degree but not a first degree program.  Murder in the first degree includes

“the intended victim was a police officer as defined in subdivision 34 of section 1.20 of the criminal procedure law who was at the time of the killing engaged in the course of performing his official duties, and the defendant knew or reasonably should have known that the intended victim was a police officer.”

This would appear therefore an attempted murder in the first degree.  

The best defense would be to challenge either the allegation that she threw the device or that the device was actually explosive or flammable.  A mental capacity defense is often hard to make out with there is preplanning or pre-construction of an explosive device.

It is hard to imagine any prosecutor bargaining down this charge since, if true, there would have been four officers burned to death if the device actually went off. Unless the device did not contain a flammable or explosive liquid, Shader is looking at serious time if convicted. For a Class A felony, the maximum term is life imprisonment.  Even a Class B felony includes up to 25 years in prison.

Even if a life sentence is not sought, an effective life sentence can be achieved in such a case if the prosecutors count stack or ask for non-concurrent (or consecutive) sentencing.

Update:  Others have been arrested for alleged firebombing attacks.  In the second case, Urooj Raman tossed a Molotov cocktail into the NYPD vehicle and then jumped into a minivan. He and the driver Colinford Mattis, 32, were arrested and both are Brooklyn residents.

Here is the photo that accompanied the police affidavit:

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393 thoughts on “The Shader Sisters: Two Women Arrested After Molotov Cocktail Is Thrown Into Van With Four Officers [Updated]”

    1. Chattanooga, TN Police Chief, David Roddy:

      https://twitter.com/ChiefDavidRoddy/status/1265758198608400386

      David Roddy
      @ChiefDavidRoddy
      ·
      May 27

      There is no need to see more video. There no need to wait to see how “it plays out”. There is no need to put a knee on someone’s neck for NINE minutes. There IS a need to DO something. If you wear a badge and you don’t have an issue with this…turn it in.

  2. Well I just watched the Minnesota video – someone mentioned the Daily Mall so I go there 5:38 video.

    It’s about 2/3rds the way through the guy dies and cop with the knee on his neck pulls out the mace.

    Yes, that’s murder. M U R D E R.

    PERIOD.

      1. No wonder trial is so screwy with the wrong verdicts all the time.

      2. The police need a less violent manner. When a suspect is pinned that long under duress, asks to not be murdered, says “he’s done” twice and verbally agrees to cooperate, it’s long past time “to try again”.

        Instead they wanted an extended punishment phase. “We tried for 10 minutes”, said the officer in response on the video.
        Well guys, you sure showed us.
        The whole nation has protests as far as I can tell.

        Instead of backing off, told over and over, bystanders and the victim, they just had to push it – warned of the death coming by the victim himself.

        Nope. Not a chance in heck. No way.

        If were going with unruly arrested street executions by applied force, take your chances if you can survive the cops attitudes, then announce it, so everyone knows.

  3. The Shader Sisters? yeah…They used to be known as The Haynes Sisters back in the day…..
    Here they are in their Cocktail dresses……..

        1. Paul and Young OTS….one of my longest-running friendships ended last week with the death of my dear friend. She rode with me when I left DC to move back to Texas to marry Honest,,,,48 years ago. To keep ourselves awake late at night on the highway, we would sing “Sisters” at the top of our lungs! Great memories…….great song.

  4. Even funnier, one of the two sister bomb throwers was a diaper fetish enthusiast. She looks strangely cute in a diaper.

    1. Young – please tell me that is not true. Her live is going to be hell in prison.

        1. Young – can’t find the pic but Omar daughter is tweeting out directions, too.

              1. No need to get “work”. like Ivanka.

                Gainesville thinks Natacha’s fantasies are real.

                1. Ivanka has had significant “work”, as has Melania.

                  Not really important until Trumpsters get ugly about the appearance of others. Something about the kind of low lifes he attracts, but that is not uncommon.

                  1. C’mon, are you going to try to tell us that kid isn’t horrible looking??? Like some kind of freak out of a Mad Max movie. I am surprised she doesn’t have a bone in her nose, and an assegai in her hand.

                    Squeeky Fromm
                    Girl Reporter

            2. Dreadful grooming, mostly. She could improve matters by eschewing jewelry, allowing her hair to grow out, and training it a tad – perhaps with a headband or barettes. Just below the ear or shoulder-length is optimal for most women.

              Her mother has one visible asset, in that she’s not gained much weight as she’s aged. Beyond that, though…. Except that he’s had a shizzy work history, diBlasio himself was not an unsalable commodity as a young man. It’s very curious that, at the age of 33, he settled for a woman who was seven years his senior, who no prudent man would assume could give him children, who had a history of lesbianism, and who was ugly to look at. You can’t help but think what brought them together and keeps them together has been the intrusion of matters abstract from daily life into the home. I don’t think you usually see that except among the worst sort of sectaries, like Communist Party members; even there it’s not universal. (Earl Browder’s wife was not a Party member and successfully prevented her husband from influencing her sons).

                1. Hi Diane. I see the assisted living center staff let you use the computer again.

            3. Yeah, she looks like she has been in prep as an extra in a Tarzan movie. Truly ugly.

      1. Squeeky – are they going to draw straws to see who changes the diaper?

      2. Squeeky– One has to admit that she would be good at stopping traffic. “OMG! Slow down Harold! What’s that!?”

    1. The article correctly notes JT’s flip flops on impeachment principles and law which are only explainable as partisan maneuvering. His main schtick this time was the House needed to prove the case and it must include law breaking. He argued exactly the opposite in Clinton and then cited the constitution’s assignment of the trial phase to the Senate.

      The pretense of legal principles here is a ruse.

  6. Attorney General and Antifa fan, Keith Ellison, appointed to take over the prosecution. That could help the defense. I suspect he is incompetent at trial and will compensate in interesting ways. I would want him as prosecutor even if I thought the officer was guilty. Makes it look as if the state is determined ti get a conviction at all costs. This is why we have a jury system.

    1. He practiced law for about a half-dozen years and ran a non-profit legal services office for about five years. He’s done some criminal defense work and some civil litigation. He quit practicing 18 years ago and I’m not sure he’s taken a criminal case since 1993. He’s very rusty.

      1. He will inject intense racial politics into the prosecution. My guess is that the defense needs to plan to counter it early. Ellison’s career provides lots of fodder. Add to that his son just pled loyalty to Antifa. The media will pile on as it did with the Duke Lacrosse case and the Zimmerman case. Might help to drag proceedings out so the mob can sink its jaws in a different bone. It seems that Antifa has replaced the KKK as thr Democrats street thugs. Trump needs to act fast to expose it, exterminate it and track its supporters. Too bad there aren’t more than a handful of Republicans with backbones.

        1. Young – all the defense has to do is get Ellison’s daughter on the stand and ask her why she was tweeting to the protesters all night.

          1. If they can get past a relevance objection. Might have to use media for that.

            One thing the defense may face is attempts by threats of force or by actual violence to alter witness testimony. In Ferguson several witnesses were terrified of speaking without some level of anonymity in a grand jury proceeding. This will probably not be a fair trial. This time the witnesses may have to worry about the attorney general.

              1. SD doesn’t want to be invaded by an army of parisitic bomb throwers.

  7. Apparently Floyd was fighting with the police when he was in the patrol car before he was taken out and pinned. And it seems the autopsy offers an explanation for his death other than excessive force by the police. Finally, he seems to have a significant criminal record. Waiting for the tox report, but apart from the Mau Mau and anarchists in the street I think a fair jury would have a hard time finding the officer guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. Not sure if it even meets a civil preponderance of the evidence. He had severe medical problems and he chose to exert himself violently in a way that could cause his system to collapse. If we are having fun now wait and see what happens if he is acquitted.

    1. Young – I think (this is just an opinion) that Floyd stroked as he came around the driver’s corner of the SUV. After that they tried to get him in the backseat and somehow got him in the frontseat passenger, then took him out. That is when they put his on the ground. Something happened in that SUV which caused them to decide he was safer on the ground than in the car. Somewhere along all this they called for an ambulance. However, he died at the 6 min mark, 2:30 before the ambulance would arrive.

      1. Paul– I remember your saying that and it was a factor when I began to think that they do not now appear to have enough to prove a criminal case. Maybe being pinned was a factor, but you saw indications that point to a stroke. Absent this he was likely going to have a stroke sooner or later. Violently resisting arrest is behavior that could make it sooner. The defense may want to try to get his medical records. Is it possible to say that being pinned could have caused his death? Probably. But the prosecutor has to prove it DID cause his death beyond a reasonable doubt, not that it might have caused his death.– Proof has to be consistent with guilt and inconsistent with any reasonable hypothesis of innocence. Given his violent resistance and his poor medical condition and the fact that the autopsy did not find he was asphyxiated, there are several reasonable hypotheses for innocence. I am not at all sure they have a provable case yet.

        1. Young – there has not been any proof that he was violently resisting, however he might have been since he claimed to be claustrophobic. They claimed to have difficulty getting him into the back seat, however they did get him in the front.

          1. The Daily Mail has an article up suggesting he was fighting in the patrol car. One interpretation of their video was that the police were beating him and the other is that he was fighting them. Probably the latter given what happened next. There apparently was vigorous physical activity in the patrol car.

            The case is getting weaker. Both sides will want the remaining officers on board and Ellison will likely try some sort of legal pressure to get them, but that could backfire. There now is an opportunity to try to make the case as much about Ellison and his support for Antifa as about the officer. Destroying much of the state is a pretty big deal and Ellison has supported Antifa. That aside, I don’t think they have a good case yet. I’ve won harder cases and I imagine you have too. Look at the evidence as if he has become your client and the weaknesses in the state case begin to pop out. Or, imagine you are the prosecutor and you have to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt. Doesn’t look so good then, and you will have Ellison on your back demanding you succeed somehow.

            1. Young – they are looking to throw someone under the bus and Chauvin is it. The other three get new jobs in upstate MN

              1. They are looking to lynch someone. Best way to hide the horrible failings of the mayor and governor. Sort of what Obama and Hillary did with a pathetic little filmmaker after Benghazi.

                Did you see that the governor’s daughter was tweeting law enforcement information to the rioters? What a mess.

                1. Young – that makes her an accessory and I think Barr is man enough to charge her.

                  1. Maybe. Not sure about Barr. Wray still has an office instead of a cell.

                    1. Young – Wray seems to want to be one of the gang, not the boss.

                    2. Prisons have gangs. He can join one in there. With any luck several of his pals can join it too.

            2. One of the things that is never discussed is that a police officer must be in total control of the situation if he or she wants to go home that night. That usually means a lot of force at the beginning until everyone is compliant. My only problem with what occurred is that I was trained to avoid the neck, especially the sides and the front because they are fragile. Of course back then all we had were night sticks (weighted) which easily could crush the front of the neck. But, according to the preliminary autopsy, there was no indication of compression of the neck. I am at a loss as to why these people are being called protesters when what the evidence shows so far is a bad take down by a police officer that did not kill the suspect.

              1. Honest– Exactly! Add to that that apparently the neck pressure used this time is a technique approved and taught in that police department. He wasn’t even using a rogue procedure by department standards. Again, I don’t think they have a case for a conviction– maybe one for a lynching and that may be what Ellison tries for.

              2. We are seeing too many videos of what happens when a police officer loses contol of a situation, one in New York where a policeman is being dragged by rioters. That is the time to up the level of violence against these thugs. It should never happen.

    2. “I think a fair jury would have a hard time finding the officer guilty beyond a reasonable doubt”

      I think that people who care about facts might want to wait for the full autopsy report before predicting what a fair jury would do.

      “it seems the autopsy offers an explanation for his death other than excessive force by the police”

      It seems that you haven’t read the preliminary autopsy report, or you’d know that it refers to a combination of factors including the police restraining him with a knee.

      “He had severe medical problems”

      Lots of people live for decades with severe medical problems. The jury will need to determine whether the police actions are the proximate cause of death (i.e., whether Floyd wouldn’t have died had the officer *not* taken a knee to Floyd’s neck for several minutes).

      1. Floyd’s criminal and drug record has come out. Fairly extensive. My Meth bet may lose to cocaine.
        ————
        George Floyd moved to Minneapolis in 2014 for a fresh start after being released from prison in Houston, Texas following an arrest for aggravated robbery
        Floyd had turned his life around but died on Monday after a white officer knelt on his neck while arresting him for allegedly paying with a fake $20 bill
        None of the officers could have been aware of Floyd’s more than a decade-old criminal history at the time of the arrest
        The 46-year-old had left behind his past in Houston after being released from prison stemming from a 2007 robbery
        He plead guilty to entering a woman’s home, pointing a gun at her stomach and searching the home for drugs and money, according to court records
        Floyd was sentenced to 10 months in jail for having less than one gram of cocaine in a December 2005 arrest
        He had previously been sentenced to eight months for the same offense, stemming from an October 2002 arrest
        Floyd was arrested in 2002 for criminal trespassing and served 30 days in jail
        He had another stint for a theft in August 1998

        https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8366533/George-Floyd-moved-Minneapolis-start-new-life-released-prison-Texas.html
        ———-
        Squeeky Fromm
        Girl Reporter

        1. Squeeky – less than 1 gram falls under Biden’s Crime Bill

                1. Young – if you are going to tell a joke this late at night, but a smiley face or a winkie on it.

        2. Squeeky– Since he and the arresting officer worked together at the same nightclub it is very possible that he was aware of Floyd’s criminal history because it is quite easy for a police officer to run one. I’m no longer one but I can run a record from my home computer. BTW, the so-called protesters are so stupid, they set fire to the AFL-CIO building in DC and the Teacher’s Union building. These are their allies aren’t they? The media really needs to stop describing these people as protesters and describe them as arsonists andr thieves and murderers. How long will we excuse criminal behavior over a police officer who made a bad take down but apparently did not kill Floyd?

          2. honestlawyer – it appears from what people have said, they might not have known each other One worked the front, the other the back. Not sure how big the place is.

              1. Their supervisor doesn’t recall they ever worked together or had over-lapping shifts.

                1. I wouldn’t want to get involved in this either. One worked the front and the other worked the back. Seems unlikely only half the building entrances would be watched each night.

          3. Thanks, Honest, I was about to make the same point; they worked together. I would not be surprised if the cop learned a lot more about the guy than the media suspects. In any event there is a modern lynch mob after him and I don’t like that even though I suspect he should not have been on the force.

            If the tox screen shows coke in his system we have another possible explantion for heart failure or stroke. The medical examiner may be under some pressure and somebody will have to dig deeply into that report. Remember what happened with the Epstein autopsy.

            I don’t think they have a complete case yet but would appreciate hearing your opinion. Bad take down but not murder sounds exactly right at this point.

            Of course everything could change with new evidence.

            Coke users often ‘turn their lives around’ by dropping dead.

            1. I’m having trouble squaring turning his life around with passing a counterfeit bill to buy cigarettes. I guess it could be considered an improvement from a home invasion if the bar is set low enough.

              1. Yeah, I guess the uptick was he didn’t use the bill to buy more coke. But who would risk phony money with their pharmacist? He was a criminal.

              2. I haven’t seen confirmation that the bill was definitely counterfeit (perhaps it exists and I haven’t seen it), but even if it was, that doesn’t imply that he was knowingly using a counterfeit bill. The Treasury Dept. says there’s ~$70M in counterfeit bills circulating, so my guess is that lots of people use counterfeit bills without realizing it.

              3. honestlawyer – at this point we do not know if he passed the twenty or not. Or if he knew he had a counterfeit $20. For all we know the merchant may have misidentified the bill.

                1. Might be more to the story in the link between the club and conterfeit money laundering… something about that club, and its bouncers, is not quite right. Might have been a front for an ‘agency’ some folks are speculating.

                  1. deeperinfo – a lot will come out in the wash as soon as they can find the printing presses. However, they burned the 3rd Precinct with the evidence locker, so if they had the $20, it is probably gone. I heard a MN attorney say if you have a criminal case in the Twin Cities, push for a speedy trial and challenge all the evidence.

                  2. Deeper– I had not thought of that. Interesting possibility that the defense will have to investigate.

                    I wonder what happened to the $20 bill that was at issue? Lost like FBI 302s when inconvenient? Something else for the defence to check out. What is the source of that bill?

                    1. Young – I have been wondering about that $20. They never searched Floyd for the bill on camera, so it might have ended up with his effects at the morgue. Then back to the 3rd Precinct. Then burned up. 😉

            2. No, they worked for the same establishment. I believe their supervisor has said they weren’t acquainted.

          4. I won’t miss the Teacher’s Union or the AFL-CIO precisely because they encourage these thugs. I suppose they are begging for the cops they despise now like that ESPN jerk in Beverly Hills.

            1. Neither the teacher’s union or the AFL-CIO has much of anything to do with this sort of thing. What the teacher’s union does is defend failing teachers and demand more money for them.

              1. Like the Chicago teacher’s union leaders who went to Venezuela and praised their Marxist kleptocracy as an improvement over us?

          5. Some of the people committing violent acts clearly weren’t protesters. As a simple example, a semi-truck drove into a crowd of protesters on a bridge in MN, when the road was supposed to have been closed for the protest. The driver, Bogdan Vechirko, has been arrested for assault. Looks like he’d donated $ to Trump and the RNC. Not a protester.

            When you say “the so-called protesters are so stupid, they set fire to the AFL-CIO building in DC and the Teacher’s Union building,” you’re assuming that protesters set those fires. Maybe they did, but maybe it was non-protesters doing it, simply taking advantage of the crowds to do it. We don’t know right now.

    3. LAUGHING.

      I just watched the 5:38 video at Daily Mall.
      I frankly don’t care what anyone says it’s murder.
      They were told by the bystanders over and over and by the dead guy over and over again.
      As soon as the guy dies 2/3rds of the way through the cop with the knee on his neck pulls his mace. The bystanders comment on it.

      When a bystander kept urging them to get off him and let him up to get in the vehicle or whatever one cop said “We tried that for 10 minutes.”

      They just don’t know when to quit. They were told. Even the dead guy told em don’t kill me. They killed him.

      It’s on video and it’s undeniable.

      Well, what’s an alternate one is going to say. A good alternate is once the suspect is begging for their life that’s an indication something is wrong. They will have to live with delays and not place extended hardcore pain hold downs on unruly arrested and cuffed with the already known I can’t breath which they probably think is a fraud since so many I can’t breath deaths have been msm televised.

      Well guess what fellas, it wasn’t a fraud or a joke.

      I also do not care one whit what the autopsy says. They were warned over, and over and over again and they were so certain they knew better. Well, keep handing out that punishment like idiots, because every now and then you’ll be murdering one, and the nation will then suffer because you don’t have the patience required to not murder on the job.

  9. Accused Molotov cocktail hurler is Ivy League-educated lawyer, community board member

    https://nypost.com/2020/05/31/accused-molotov-cocktail-hurler-is-ivy-league-educated-lawyer/

    A Ivy League-educated lawyer and member of a Brooklyn community board was among those arrested for hurling a Molotov cocktail at a marked NYPD vehicle amid George Floyd protests, it was revealed Sunday.

    Colinford Mattis, 32, was allegedly behind the wheel of a tan minivan as his passenger, fellow attorney Urooj Rahman, allegedly hurled the incendiary at an empty NYPD vehicle outside the 88th Precinct station house in Fort Greene early on Saturday.

    Mattis, a graduate of Princeton University and New York University law school, is an associate at corporate Manhattan firm Pryor Cashman.

    He was furloughed in April amid the coronavirus crisis, his employer confirmed.

    “As we confront critical issues around historic and ongoing racism and inequity in our society, I am saddened to see this young man allegedly involved in the worst kind of reaction to our shared outrage over what had occurred,” managing partner Ron Shechtman said in a statement to The Post.

    Brooklyn Community Board 5 in East New York lists Mattis as one of its members, though the board’s president and reps didn’t immediately return calls on Sunday.

    Rahman, 31, meanwhile, is also registered as an attorney in New York state, who was admitted to the bar in June 2019 after graduating from Fordham University School of Law. It was not immediately clear on Sunday whether she was affiliated with any law firm.

    It’s unclear how she and Mattis know each other.

    The Brooklyn residents are federally charged with causing damage by fire and explosives to a police vehicle, during demonstrations over the death of George Floyd.

    “No rational human being can ever believe that hurling firebombs at police officers and vehicles is justified,” said Brooklyn US Attorney Richard Donaghue.

    Both attorneys are expected to be arraigned on Monday.

    Pryor Cashman said that Mattis’ employment status will be reviewed “as we obtain further information this week.”

    If convicted, each of them faces up to 20 years behind bars with a mandatory minimum sentence of 5 years.

  10. https://ca.news.yahoo.com/former-espn-nba-reporter-criticized-192748843.html

    Former ESPN NBA reporter criticized for hypocritical tweets about George Floyd protests

    Veteran NBA reporter Chris Palmer was called out on Twitter for a pair of tweets he sent within the span of a few days.

    Palmer was offering his thoughts on the protests across the United States in the wake of George Floyd’s death. On Thursday night, Palmer quote-tweeted a photo of a burning building with the caption, “Burn that s— down. Burn it all down.” But shortly after midnight on Sunday, Palmer had a change of tone once protesters showed up closer to where he lived.

    The apparent hypocrisy was not lost on Twitter.

    The photo of a burning building was, according to the Star Tribune, an affordable housing development under construction. The complex had 189 units and was expected to open later this year.

    Palmer did delete the first tweet where he said to “burn that s— down,” but his tweets since have defended his stance from the second tweet. When one Twitter user called him out the opposing language in his two tweets, he responded in part, “don’t talk to me about what you don’t know.”

    In another response, he willingly admitted that he’s free to change his stance.

    Palmer, who worked at ESPN for 14 years and Bleacher Report for two years, offered some additional thoughts on the situation. He tweeted, “Tear up your own s—. Don’t come to where we live at and tear our neighborhood up. We care about our community. If you don’t care about yours I don’t give a s—.”

  12. Trump is again retweeting QAnon garbage.

    From Just Security:
    “… a May 2019 FBI assessment [states] that online conspiracy theories “very likely” result in domestic extremists committing violent crimes. The report notes that it is “the first FBI product examining the threat from conspiracy theory-driven domestic extremists and provides a baseline for future intelligence products,” and predicts an increased risk of violent outcomes as the United States enters “major election cycles such as the 2020 presidential election.” If that happens, it may be in no small part due to President Donald Trump’s endorsement and amplification of conspiracy theories and theorists such as QAnon. …”

    A copy of the entire FBI document: justsecurity.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/420379775-fbi-conspiracy-theories-domestic-extremism.pdf

    Our President is stoking the fire. He will do whatever he thinks serves him, no matter the harm to the country.

    1. There have been several places where police have joined protesters and the protests have remained non-violent. Camden and Newark, NJ, and Santa Cruz, CA, are others.

      There are also plenty of photos of protesters working to protect others. A couple of great examples from Louisville:
      twitter.com/southendtimd/status/1266309878970277889
      twitter.com/ndduncan59/status/1266760811474751493

  16. Sooo, there I was noodling on my guitar – and VOILA!

    Samantha Shader
    A Parody Poem by Squeeky Fromm
    To The Tune of Eleanor Rigby

    Ah, look at all the crazy people
    Ah, look at all the crazy people

    Samantha Shader,
    Picks up the gas at the station where nobody works
    Molotov cocktail
    Chucks in a window
    Trying to fry her some cops sitting there in the van
    Death to the Man!

    All the crazy people
    Where do they all come from?
    All the crazy people
    Those Democrats are dumb!

    Raman and Mattis
    Two young attorneys and obviously partisan Dems
    Molotov Cocktail
    Toss on a cop car
    Trying to fry them some bacon and blow up some cops
    It never stops!

    All the crazy people
    Where do they all come from?
    All the crazy people
    Those Democrats are dumb!

    Professor Cliffort,
    Spinning his theories on hooligans, looters and thugs
    Ivory Tower
    Lives in the burbs!
    Making excuses and quoting some Michel Foucault
    What can we do???

    All the crazy people
    Where do they all come from?
    All the crazy people
    Those Democrats are dumb!

    Squeeky Fromm
    Girl Reporter

    1. It doesn’t matter what side you’re on. That’s the dumbest shit I’ve ever read.

      1. I take it you’re not a Beatles fan. I thought the line, “Making excuses and quoting some Michel Foucault” gave the whole thing a bit of je ne sais quois.

        Squeeky Fromm
        Girl Reporter

        1. Yes, I’m a Beatles fan. But this is still dumb. And what’s with the misspelled Squeaky Fromme handle?

  17. Uber Liberal ESPN writer, Chris Palmer, tweeted “Burn that shit down. Burn it all down” with a photo of a multi- million dollar affordable housing project in flames.

    Then the rioters showed up on Rodeo Drive and he was screaming for police help and saying the Animals (rioters) should stay away from his beautiful neighborhood and gated community.

    It is so easy to despise these people.

    1. With any luck at all, if the animals are arrested in California’s no bail system they will be back climbing his lovely gates again a few hours.

      I can’t help but laugh.

    2. Young – rioters and looters hit Scottsdale Fashion Square in Scottsdale, AZ. They are really upgrading the house. 😉 This is the Rodeo Drive of Scottsdale. There were some arrests and some damage.

      1. I know. I’ve been there. Very nice. Now Arizona has an 8:00 pm curfew. I hope the Scottsdale police have more pluck than those in other cities.

        I was on Rodeo Drive and also Beverly Thursday and Friday and thankfully missed the thugs. There was trouble on the 101 but I avoided that. If someone blocks my road I can drive backwards very well, even on the freeway. Done it before in emergencies.

        1. Young – my understanding is that they shut them down fast. More damage Friday in Phoenix so they laid in more cops.

          1. Good. I kind of expected that. A retired cop from there is a friend and I can’t see a force with officers sharing his sense of decency putting up with the thugs. Less sure about phoenix. When occupy wall street destroyed things downtown the lefty city prosecutor gave them a pass.

        2. Young……I’m impressed with your driving abilities…..I couldn’t back out of my driveway with a map, two traffic cops and a jumbo rear view mirror!

    3. “Uber Liberal ESPN writer, Chris Palmer, tweeted “Burn that shit down. Burn it all down” with a photo of a multi- million dollar affordable housing project in flames.”

      What’s the URL for his tweet?

        1. I’m not asking you to be my RA.
          You’re the one who made the claim, and you’re the one with the burden of proof for it, not me.

          My guess is that you have no idea whether Chris Palmer actually said that, but you find it convenient to repeat without checking whether you have valid evidence for it, though I could be wrong about that.

            1. Squeeky,

              As I told you, every time someone here insults me, I recognize it as a sign of weakness on the part of the person posting the insult.

              As for the images, they can easily be photoshopped, which was why I asked for the URL, not for the image. In fact, if you looked at the top image more carefully, you’d see that it’s missing data, which suggests strongly that it has been edited by someone who is too sloppy to do a careful job.

              The thing is: if you have the URL, you can check whether the tweet still exists, and you can also search to see whether Google has a cached copy if it was deleted.

              So as you can see, I asked for the URL because I’m informed rather than underinformed. Your response says more about you than about me.

  18. A murder is committed. The perpetrator is arrested, charged and presented to a court.

    Justice is served.

    Americans are served.

    Americans launch a space craft.

    Africans riot and burn down cities.

    Africans have no capacity or desire to assimilate.

    Africans, by their own admission, are engaged in “…fundamentally transforming the United States.”

    The orator who uttered those words engaged in a Coup D’etat in America.

    The barbarians are not at the gate.

    The barbarians are inside the gate.

    1. African Americans are Americans. Many African Americans have a longer family history in the U.S. than many white Americans, and they’ve played a key part in U.S. history, from the American Revolution onward.

      Your long list of racist comments are unpatriotic.

        1. Rest assured, much of what you post isn’t fact. Moreover, no one who pays attention to facts doubts that we have a racist past. The question is what we choose as our future. I don’t want the same future you do, and I will fight against the future you advocate.

          1. That’s me, inadvertently posted before I added my name.

            1. Thanks for reading and please cite the falsities you reference, What I post cannot be false or otherwise erroneous. I post factual citations, historical statements and constitutional sections. You obviously don’t like American historical facts or American fundamental law. That would be your problem. Take it up with your pastor, nay, psychoanalyst.

  20. Jesus. Trying to burn 4 police officers to death.

    Throw the book at them.

    This is not an expression of rage, standing up for civil rights, or protesting police misconduct. Violent acts and looting should be firmly prosecuted.

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