“A Single-Handed Symbol Of White Supremacy”: Wisconsin Students Demand Removal Of Statue Of Abraham Lincoln

images220px-Abraham_LincolnWe have been discussing the wanton destruction of public memorial and statues across the country, including baffling attacks on abolitionists and those who fought against slavery.  One of the most incongruous targets has been Abraham Lincoln in various cities.  Now, students at the University of Wisconsin, including the Black Student Union and the Student Inclusion Coalition, have demanded the removal of Lincoln’s statue as ‘a single-handed symbol of white supremacy.” The signer of the Emancipation Proclamation, the vocal advocate for the 13th Amendment, and the man assassinated for his war against the South and slavery.  Saying that Lincoln is the “symbol of white supremacy” has about as much foundation as saying Harvey Milk is the symbol of militant heterosexuality.  Both were great leaders who were killed at the height of campaigns for equality.  As I discuss below, there are aspects of Lincoln’s legacy that are worthy of condemnation but even John Wilkes Booth would dispute the claim of Lincoln as the embodiment of white supremacy.

Wisconsin has been much in the news lately with scenes of the destruction of statues including that of Civil War abolitionist Hans Christian Heg and another of a female figure representing the state’s “Forward” motto.  When Democratic  Sen. Tim Carpenter took a picture of the protesters, he was attacked and required surgery for his injuries.

State Sen. Tim Carpenter posted a video showing demonstrators rushing toward him during Tuesday night's demonstrations. (Screenshot via Twitter)
State Sen. Tim Carpenter posted a video showing demonstrators rushing toward him during Tuesday night’s demonstrations. (Screenshot via Twitter)(Screenshot via Twitter)

Administrators and faculty have been largely silent in the face of the destruction of statues including the toppling of George Washington’s bust on our own campus at George Washington University.  There is a palpable sense of fear that objections to such destruction will bring accusations of racism or campaigns to remove faculty.  We have already seen journalists and academics face such campaigns.

To the credit of these students, they are seeking such changes through dialogue and mutual agreement with the university.  Indeed, the effort allows for a discussion of not just the great deeds but the great wrongs revealed in such historical legacies.  These students did the right thing in raising their objections to Lincoln and starting a discussion on their campus as to whether he is the worthy figure for such a prominent place of honor.  After all, Lincoln made clear at the start of the war that he was more concerned with preserving the union than freeing the slaves.  There are legitimate issues to be raised about such comments as well as an array of controversial decisions.

The students want the prominent statue on Bascom Hill removed.

Students point out that Lincoln ordered the execution of 38 Dakota men and signed the Homestead Act, which gave settlers land forcibly taken from Native Americans.

Black Student Union president Nalah McWhorter declared “For him to be at the top of Bascom [Hill] as a powerful placement on our campus, it’s a single-handed symbol of white supremacy.”

1904paintingAttackNewUlmAntonGagThe Dakota executions have long been controversial.  The Sioux or Dakota uprising occurred not long after Minnesota became a state and involved the death of hundreds of settlers.  The Army crushed the Sioux and captured hundreds.  A military tribunal sentenced 303 to death for alleged crimes against civilians and other crimes.  The trial itself was a farce with no real representation or reliable evidence.  Lincoln reviewed the transcripts of the 303 and told the Senate:

“Anxious to not act with so much clemency as to encourage another outbreak on one hand, nor with so much severity as to be real cruelty on the other, I ordered a careful examination of the records of the trials to be made, in view of first ordering the execution of such as had been proved guilty of violating females.”

However, only two men were found guilty of rape and Lincoln later expanded the criteria to include those who participated in “massacres” of civilians as opposed to battles with the Army.

Lincoln however commuted the sentence of 264 of the 303 convicted.

This is not the first time Lincoln has faced the ire of some in Wisconsin. When Lincoln called the nation to war against the South, many in Wisconsin did not support the cause and rioted against Lincoln.  Ultimately, however, Wisconsin sent multiple regiments who fought valiantly in the War and sacrificed much to defeat both the South and slavery.

Having a statue to a leader like Lincoln is not an endorsement of his entire legacy. I have heavily criticized Lincoln for the unconstitutional suspension of habeas corpus and the loss of free speech rights as well as other decisions.  We learn from such public memorials, which can be augmented with a more full historical context and criticism.  However, to say that Lincoln is a symbol of white supremacy ignores his pivotal role in fighting slavery, a cause for which he would ultimately give his own life.

193 thoughts on ““A Single-Handed Symbol Of White Supremacy”: Wisconsin Students Demand Removal Of Statue Of Abraham Lincoln”

  1. I see Trump made it to Mount Rushmore

    “In 1868 the government finally requested a cessation of raids and signed the Fort Laramie Treaty guaranteeing the Powder River country as well as the Black Hills to be reserved for the Lakotas forever. Native American warriors burned down every fort along the trail. They knew that forever is not a long time in U.S. government treaties with Native Americans. ”

    http://www.nativepartnership.org/site/PageServer?pagename=airc_bio_redcloud

    Few may know that a small group of men of which people like Bill Gates hangs out with have had long term plans to not only get rid of the Indians, but now also everyone one else, whites, mexican,blacks, asians,etc., with something like Gates’ new mRNA bio-weapon that he/they would have us believe is a vaccine.

    As long as the Grass is Green, the River Flows & the Wind Blows Satan & his Agents like Bill Gates/Dr Fauci will remain mankind’s enemies! Fear Not.

    Here is some of their own, (Threats against us), writings;

    https://banned.video/watch?id=5efbb537672706002f383e62

  2. In the UK also BLM demonstrators have attacked/demanded to be removed statues of Churchill, Gandhi, and Baden Powell. The BLM rhetoric in UK is more directed at historical figures who profited from slavery. As their deeds do not match their acts, which to believe? This looks more like a frontal assault on Western culture, the most liberal in the world, than anything to do with the horrors of slavery. If they care that much about slavery, the victims of the past cannot be helped, and there are increasing numbers of modern slaves who would benefit from their political protests.

  3. The New York Times now has gone after Mount Rushmore for several reasons, one of which is that two of the Presidents featured owned slaves and another of which is that it was sculpted on land that was taken from a native American tribe. Obviously, it should be blown up, right after they blow up the New York Times building since as noted by a commentator today, it was built on land swindled from another native American tribe.

    1. honestlawyer – just thought I would point out that the Lakota stole the Black Hills from another tribe/nation. They do not have clean hands.

        1. Mr Kurtz – the article has an ad wall. However, the Aztecs had enough enemies that Cortez was able to build a sufficient army of natives to help him defeat the Aztec on his first invasion.

      1. Olly…….exactly. and these riots and rages are in reality the Revenge Tour of the Toddler Taliban, and All Thugs Matter, or whatever we’re calling them in polite company.
        Almost two years ago when I was first exposed to chronic cry baby/whitey hater “enigmainblack”, I asked him/her about forgiveness and its importance in the black community. Crickets.

      2. Olly– Thanks for that. I hope I can remember that when every fiber of my being wants to strike back.

        On a more pleasant subject, we spoke Hilagaynon or Ilongo where I was assigned. Unfortunately, I forgot it as fast as I learned it. One of our group designed a windmill that could irrigate a hectare and could be built in any barrio. It spread like wildfire and he became something of a hero to local farmers. On his way into Manila, some bandits made the mistake of robbing him at gun point and stealing his boots and his Peace Corps jeep and leaving him in the middle of nowhere. The Huckbala “guerillas” heard what happened, hunted the bandits down and executed them. Our government called the Huckbala communists and helped Marcos in his efforts to destroy them. We knew they were nationalists and more importantly had our backs. I hope this explains why to me San Miguel was a medical necessity.

        1. Thanks for that. I hope I can remember that when every fiber of my being wants to strike back.

          HLM,
          I know exactly what your saying. If they want medieval justice, I’m 100% confident it’s available on demand.

          It reminds me of this quote by Bastiat: It is as if it were necessary, before a reign of justice appears, for everyone to suffer a cruel retribution — some for their evilness, and some for their lack of understanding.

          The first time I went to the Philippines was in 1981. We could travel anywhere. No restrictions. By the next time I got there in 1990, we were completely restricted to the base. I believe negotiations are going on right now for a return to the base.

  4. The only question I would ask those who read these types of stories is, what culture has never had slavery, what leader has ever been perfect? People act like Washington, Jefferson, Adams, Jackson, and Lincoln were perfect. The facts of the matter are Jesus is the only perfect leader. The facts of the matter are historically in Massachusetts black people have always been able to vote. The facts are that the 11 states of the Confederacy only had a 9% slavery rate. The facts are that the sin of slavery was abolished 155 years ago. The facts of the matter are that the children should not pay for the sins of the father. Do we execute the children of murderers? Do we incarcerate the children of rapists? Destroying history does not change that history. We should change the history we teach, instead. Can anyone on this site tell me who Briton Hammon was? Can anyone tell me who Lemeul Haynes was? Who knows what the Constitution actually says about slavery, and the context? So, destroying monuments does not teach people these issues. Changing the history taught does.

  5. It is being reported that a large group of people who were in the George W. Bush administration are supporting Biden over Trump. Is anyone surprised by this? The Bush administration was full of swamp dwellers, formerly known as silk stocking republicans. Of course they can’t stand Trump. As just one example, he has seriously cut into the profits of the military-industrial complex. When George Bush went after Saddam Hussein because Hussein had tried to assassinate Bush’s father (and built this elaborate pretext of weapons of mass destruction as his cover) the manufacturers of military equipment, bombs and bullets made a huge fortune. These former officials will do anything to get rid of President Trump, even embracing a man who participated in paying a $1.5 Billion cash bounty to the biggest state sponsor of terrorists. It is shameful but not surprising.

    1. Dude, Trump promoted a large military increase in his 1st budget. It was one of his few actual “achievements”. What are you talking about?

      1. it was one of his few actual achievements

        Phew. So glad to see you aren’t as scarred as your friends at WahPutz. Drop them a line, since you are thick as thieves with them, and let them know of your assessment of Trump’s achievements. Apparently they think otherwise, but then again, we all know they are fake news so…. meh….you’re right! Maybe he can increase the # of nominees so that half of US circuit court judges are his? What do you think?

        After three years in office, President Trump has remade the federal judiciary, ensuring a conservative tilt for decades and cementing his legacy no matter the outcome of November’s election

        Trump nominees make up 1 in 4 U.S. circuit court judges. Two of his picks sit on the Supreme Court. And this past week, as the House voted to impeach the president, the Republican-led Senate confirmed an additional 13 district court judges.

        In total, Trump has installed 187 judges to the federal bench.

        Trump’s mark on the judiciary is already having far-reaching effects on legislation and liberal priorities. Just last week, the 5th Circuit struck down a core provision of the Affordable Care Act. One of the two appellate judges who ruled against the landmark law was a Trump appointee.

        https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/one-in-every-four-circuit-court-judges-is-now-a-trump-appointee/2019/12/21/d6fa1e98-2336-11ea-bed5-880264cc91a9_story.html

  6. SCOTUS knocks down anti-Catholic discrimination and Blaine Amendments

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    https://www.vaticannews.va/en/church/news/2020-07/us-bishops-welcome-supreme-court-ruling-on-funding-for-religio.html

    U.S. Bishops laud Supreme Court ruling on funding for religiously-affiliated schools

    U.S Bishops welcome Supreme Court ruling that the “U.S. Consitution does not permit states to discriminate against religion”.

    By Fr. Benedict Mayaki, SJ

    U.S. Bishops hailed a Supreme Court ruling on Tuesday that religious schools should not be excluded from a tax credit scholarship program in Montana.

    In a 5 to 4 decision in the case of Espinoza v. Montana Department of Revenue, the Supreme Court ruled against the Montana state constitution’s “Blaine Amendment” of 1889 which bars public funding of religious institutions solely because of their faith-based status.

    In light of this, the Chairman of the U.S. Bishops’ Conference Committee for Religious Liberty, Archbishop Thomas G. Wenski of Miami, and the Chairman of the USCCB’s Committee on Catholic Education, Bishop Michael C. Barber, S.J. of Oakland, issued a statement on Tuesday.

    Welcome ruling

    “This is good news, not only for people of faith, but for our country. A strong civil society needs the full participation of religious institutions,” the Bishops said welcoming the decision.

    “The Court has rightly ruled that the U.S. Constitution does not permit states to discriminate against religion. This decision means that religious persons and organizations can, like everyone else, participate in government programs that are open to all,” they added.

    “By ensuring the rights of faith-based organizations’ freedom to serve, the Court is also promoting the common good.”

    Blaine Amendments

    Archbishop Wenski and Bishop Barber said that the recent ruling has “dealt a blow to the odious legacy of anti-Catholicism in America.”

    They pointed out that the “Blaine Amendments, which are in 37 states’ constitutions, were the product of nativism and bigotry,” and “were never meant to ensure government neutrality towards religion. They were rather “expressions of hostility toward the Catholic Church.”

    Concluding the statement, the Bishops expressed their gratitude that “the Supreme Court has taken an important step that will help bring an end to this shameful legacy.”

  7. (music)
    Just got in from I’ll in oye..
    Lock the front door.. oh boy
    Got to go back to Minnesota soon.

  8. Wisconsin needs to secede from the United States. Canada doesn’t want them either. Build up a wall around them.

        1. “This Ain’t the Summer of Love,” going out to Mayor Jenny Durkan of Seattle, now that #CHOP trashed her home for pledging to shut down their shitshow. I chose an L7 cover because, frankly, Mayor Jenny doesn’t deserve Blue Oyster Cult. https://youtu.be/2ZcUXPphDDY via @YouTube

          1. loupgarous – Gee, just because they trashed Jenny’s home is no reason for her to break up the party.

  9. “…have demanded the removal of Lincoln’s statue as ‘a single-handed symbol of white supremacy.”

    – Professor Turley
    ______________

    They have the right statue but the wrong reasons. Lincoln shredded and nullified the Constitution as a act of treason against the Constitution and America. Lincoln had no authority to deny constitutional secession. The CSA should not have been opposed in its constitutional secession as it would have ultimately failed economically in its slave status and returned, petitioning for readmission to the U.S. That was the legal and constitutional course. When Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation, the status of slaves changed from that of “property” to “illegal alien” as the Naturalization Act of 1802 required citizens to be “…free white person(s)…” requiring immediate deportation or “colonization” to Liberia (for the benefit of the displaced Africans) as Lincoln earlier referred to it. That was the legal and constitutional path, not the murder of 1 million Americans and brutal, heinous total war by Sherman et al. against the Southern States.

    “America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.”

    – Abraham Lincoln

    Yep! And Lincoln did it.

  10. “One of the most incongruous targets has been Abraham Lincoln…”

    – Professor Turley
    ______________

    This must be a different Abraham Lincoln who had the correct and only solution on his first consideration:

    “If all earthly power were given me,” said Lincoln in a speech delivered in Peoria, Illinois, on October 16, 1854, “I should not know what to do, as to the existing institution [of slavery]. My first impulse would be to free all the slaves, and send them to Liberia, to their own native land.” After acknowledging that this plan’s “sudden execution is impossible,” he asked whether freed blacks should be made “politically and socially our equals?” “My own feelings will not admit of this,” he said, “and [even] if mine would, we well know that those of the great mass of white people will not … We can not, then, make them equals.”5

    One of Lincoln’s most representative public statements on the question of racial relations was given in a speech at Springfield, Illinois, on June 26, 1857.6 In this address, he explained why he opposed the Kansas-Nebraska Act, which would have admitted Kansas into the Union as a slave state:

    There is a natural disgust in the minds of nearly all white people to the idea of indiscriminate amalgamation of the white and black races … A separation of the races is the only perfect preventive of amalgamation, but as an immediate separation is impossible, the next best thing is to keep them apart where they are not already together. If white and black people never get together in Kansas, they will never mix blood in Kansas …

    Racial separation, Lincoln went on to say, “must be effected by colonization” of the country’s blacks to a foreign land. “The enterprise is a difficult one,” he acknowledged,

    but “where there is a will there is a way,” and what colonization needs most is a hearty will. Will springs from the two elements of moral sense and self-interest. Let us be brought to believe it is morally right, and, at the same time, favorable to, or, at least, not against, our interest, to transfer the African to his native clime, and we shall find a way to do it, however great the task may be.

    1. Though well cited these comments are apparently all pre-civil war, and the evident transcendent view Lincoln projected in the Second inaugural address. Exhausting blood and treasure to ameliorate the suffering and financial gains certainly would not be consistent with his earlier mind set.

      1. Lincoln won 1860 with 38.9% of the vote.

        Lincoln won 1864 by brute military force.

        Lincoln was the U.S. Constitution’s and, therefore, America’s aberration and nemesis.

      2. Mike, have you noticed that $22 trillion has been spent on the War On Poverty since 1965? Have you noticed that to forcibly mix political oil and water, communists (liberals, progressives, socialists, democrats, RINOs) have employed the political emulsifiers of generational welfare, affirmative action privilege, quotas, forced busing, Obamacare, food stamps, WIC, TANF, HAMP, HARP, HUD, HHS, unfair Fair Housing laws, discriminatory Non-Discrimination laws, etc. ad infinitum, ad nauseam? The principles of communism inherent therein are in full force and effect to this day. Freedom is gone with the wind as has been quipped.

        Everybody gets along great, right, Mike? It took full blown communism and the abrogation of the Constitution to force into being that which you claim Lincoln altered his position to. The long-suffering displaced Africans would have benefited immensely from returning to their homeland to obtain a sense of nationhood and a necessary measure of self-esteem. Lincoln said that. Lincoln knew that. Lincoln was correct.

  11. Meanwhile, here’s the President this morning dealing with the intelligence on Russian bounties:

    “The Russia Bounty story is just another made up by Fake News tale that is told only to damage me and the Republican Party. The secret source probably does not even exist, just like the story itself. If the discredited
    @nytimes
    has a source, reveal it. Just another HOAX!”

    Dude, your own intelligence agencies think this has happened. There’s a money trail. WTF is wrong with you?

    1. “Dude, your own intelligence agencies think this has happened.” [Make sue you read to the end where Obama actually paid our enemies to kill American soldiers]

      Dude, that is wrong. The intelligence agencies have no consensus regarding that piece of intelligence. Most likely the actual intelligence is phony and could even have been concocted by Democrats. The level of intelligence listed by the NYTImes was very low and very non specific. Why do Afghans have to be paid to kill American soldiers? By its own actions the NYTimes likely prevented our intelligence community from determining the validity of even that poor evidence. The NYTimes demonstrated its anti-Americanism and its lust to lessen the security of the United States.

      On the other hand Iran was paying Afghans to kill our allies and us not just in Afghanistan but also Iran funded Hamas to kill Americans in the middle east. When Trump killed Soleimani who was known to have been behind the deaths of over 600 American soldiers the left and you screamed in pain asking how Trump could kill Soleimani. Yet now based on almost nothing you want Trump to attack Russia. (By the way we did that to the Russians when they were in Afghanistan).

      The real dirt behind this type of killing so happens to be Obama who actually funded Iran’s killing of American soldiers that Trump put a partial stop to. You and the left were happy to see 170 Billion dollars being sent by Obama to Iran, likely of debateable illegality. Part of that money was used to kill Americans. That is how Soleimani was funded.

      1. You stupid f…, US Intelligence agencies produced the intelligence and that has been confirmed by GOP congressmen and no one in the WH denies it except the traitor Trump.

        Obama paid the Iranians their own money as part of the nuclear deal which stopped their nuclear weapons production as affirmed by US and Israeli defense and intelligence departments. Trump is again spouting Putin’s lines for nothing that benefits our country.. .

        1. Pentagon denied it and also it’s known that NSA denies the CIA interpretation. this was on NPR. calm down

          dont you think maybe there’s a reason the Russians would be paying the Taliban for something that would benefit them? Like just intel perhaps?> Or maybe some of the opium crop?

          Because it would make no sense to pay them for what they already do for free. You need to put your thinking cap on Book.

        2. “You stupid f…, US Intelligence agencies produced the intelligence ”

          I can’t help it, BTB, that you are so intellectually challenged. Tremendous quantities of intelligence are gathered. Though Obama might have acted without knowledge, one is not supposed to act until there is some type of consensus regarding that intelligence. If the NYTimes headline said that the Russians nuclear weapons were ready to fire and facing US targets you would immediately propose a preemptive nuclear strike. But what you wouldn’t figure out in time is that Russian nuclear weapons are always facing American targets and ready to fire. You act using reflexive responses but those types of responses bypass the brain.

          We now have less of a chance of figuring out what that data meant because of the NYTImes anti-American release of that information.

          Of course you are a hypocrite.

          Trump had actionable intelligence that Soleimani was involved in killing over 600 American soldiers. Whereas Obama did nothing Trump took Soleimani out and then you complained because he actually did something that Obama refused to do.
          .
          “Obama paid the Iranians”

          You don’t have to continue with that sentence because the money Obama sent was used to kill American soldiers and Americans all over the middle east and in Afghanistan. That was actionable intelligence but Obama sent the money anyway. You will make an excuse for Obama not saving the lives of American soldiers while at the same time disparage Trump for doing so.

          BTB = Hypocrite.

          “Trump is again spouting Putin’s lines”

          There are many reasons why that comment is stupid. Obama permitted the Russians to take over the Ukraine and the Crimea. Trump has restrained the Russians in many ways and that included ways that got Russians killed. Obama looked good in a suit but when it came to protecting America that suit was empty.

        3. You stupid f…,

          In 3.5 years you’ve been wrong on nearly everything you believed regarding the IC/FBI and DOJ. And yet you have the audacity to call anyone else a stupid f…? Just once, prove you have an ounce of humility, a modicum of common sense, an iota of critical-thinking ability and admit what you believe is true, may in reality be something altogether. Because when you out-crazy Nutchacha, you’ve completely lost any possibility of redemption. Damn!

        1. Hellvis is unable to state the facts of his video. Too dumb. The only way to get the topic back on subject is to recopy an earlier segment of the branch.

          I can’t help it, Hellvis, that you are so intellectually challenged. Tremendous quantities of intelligence are gathered. Though Obama might have acted without knowledge, one is not supposed to act until there is some type of consensus regarding that intelligence. If the NYTimes headline said that the Russians nuclear weapons were ready to fire and facing US targets you would immediately propose a preemptive nuclear strike. But what you wouldn’t figure out in time is that Russian nuclear weapons are always facing American targets and ready to fire. You act using reflexive responses but those types of responses bypass the brain.

          We now have less of a chance of figuring out what that data meant because of the NYTImes anti-American release of that information.

          Of course you are a hypocrite.

          Trump had actionable intelligence that Soleimani was involved in killing over 600 American soldiers. Whereas Obama did nothing Trump took Soleimani out and then you complained because he actually did something that Obama refused to do.
          .
          “Obama paid the Iranians”

          You don’t have to continue with that sentence because the money Obama sent was used to kill American soldiers and Americans all over the middle east and in Afghanistan. That was actionable intelligence but Obama sent the money anyway. You will make an excuse for Obama not saving the lives of American soldiers while at the same time disparage Trump for doing so.

          Hellvis = Hypocrite.

          “Trump is again spouting Putin’s lines”

          There are many reasons why that comment is stupid. Obama permitted the Russians to take over the Ukraine and the Crimea. Trump has restrained the Russians in many ways and that included ways that got Russians killed. Obama looked good in a suit but when it came to protecting America that suit was empty.

          1. I respect your inherent genius and all, Allan…, but what you say is just third rate deflection and sheer idiocy.

        1. First intelligence is verified but you don’t think. You don’t know for sure whether he was or he wasn’t.

          If the NYTimes headline said that the Russians nuclear weapons were ready to fire and facing US targets you would immediately propose a preemptive nuclear strike. But what you wouldn’t figure out in time is that Russian nuclear weapons are always facing American targets and ready to fire. You act using reflexive responses but those types of responses bypass the brain.

          1. Trump was briefed February 27, at least the mechanism was in place. It’s well known if you don’t approach with pictures and coloring books he’s incapable of hearing the point. If, somehow, Trump escaped that briefing witn no cognizance of what he was being told, that’s acually a bigger problem than if he did, indeed, hear it.

            Probably it would be a good idea that there be a mask made to contain the idiocy coming out of Allan’s mouth.

                1. Oh you mean like I’ve done a million times and you’ve said: a) that information is a lie, b) you don’t understand what you’re posting (actually it’s you who doesn’t), followed by c) let me defocus on the point by bringing in material completely unrelated to the point.

                  You’re a disingenuous liar, Allan. There’s no reason to deal with you.

                  1. After peddling your theories on the efficacy of the Steele Dossier you started peddling the idea that Biden was “coordinating the recovery”. On both those counts and many others, serious arguments were raised by others and myself to show what you said did not make sense. In the end you couldn’t defend your foolish point of view so you ran away or claimed incoherence. You have done that so many times it is etched into the minds of a lot of people but perhaps you are too stupid to recognize that.

                    You lie.
                    You quote headlines but never read the story.
                    You quote headlines without understanding the meaning of the phrases used such as structural racism.

                    All in all you are a boob.

        2. NSA does not agree with this interpretation.
          The interpretation comes from information extracted from “prisoner confessions” conducted under CIA which means using the methods CIA’s Gina Haskell approved for Guantanamo IE torture thus the information is fundamentally suspect. Coerced confessions are often fabrications to satisfy the torturer and make it stop. Duh

          Moreover the notion is patently implausible. Russians are probably buying opium from Taliban. Probably buying intelligence.
          But why would they pay Taliban for what Taliban already wants and does for free? IE killing Americans

          if you believe this BS from CIA and the NYT you’re credulous

          https://consortiumnews.com/2020/06/29/ray-mcgovern-russiagates-last-gasp/

          dont trust me, I’m a Republican and just a peasant in flyover. trust Ray McGovern. he’s a peace activist, Green party voter, and he is a decorated retired CIA analyst, retired, who briefed many POTUS including JFK early in his career.

  12. Meanwhile:

    “WASHINGTON – A measure requiring presidential campaigns to report any attempts by foreign entities interfering in U.S. elections was stripped by Senate Republicans as a condition of passing the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) in a “backroom deal” Sen. Mark Warner, D-VA., said Tuesday.

    The NDAA, which is being debated on the Senate floor this week, will include the Intelligence Authorization Act but not the amendment requiring campaigns to report foreign help to the proper authorities after that provision was stripped from the bipartisan defense bill…..”

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/06/30/senate-removes-measure-demanding-campaigns-report-foreign-election-help/5351046002/

    MoscowMitch must have gotten the word from the Russian asset in the WH.

    1. “C’mon man” dems don’t need an Act to report or investigate foreign interference,, they can just lie and create a fake dossier.

  13. Communist Cuba leads the way on how to squash the Left. This had to have crushed Reuters

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    Cuba prevents protest over police killing of Black man

    HAVANA (Reuters) – A raft of Cuban dissidents, artists and journalists said on Tuesday that state security agents had staked out their homes to prevent them from attending planned protests over the killing by police of a young Black man.

    A man is detained at the site where a protest against the killing of a Black man by police was due to take place in Havana, Cuba, June 30, 2020. REUTERS/Alexandre Meneghini
    At least 40 dissident activists were also detained by police, according to exiled rights group Cubalex, with some later released.

    Those included performance artist Tania Bruguera in Havana and the leader of Cuba’s most active opposition group, Jose Daniel Ferrer, who had been under house arrest in the eastern city of Santiago de Cuba.

    Cuba does not usually comment on the detention of dissidents, which would give them more publicity. The government did not immediately reply to a request for comment.

    No would-be protesters appeared able to make it to the site of what was supposed to be the main demonstration in Havana which was full of security forces. Some said state telecoms monopoly ETECSA had cut their mobile internet service overnight.

    Protests against the state are rare in a country where public spaces are tightly controlled and Communist authorities are quick to crack down on dissent.

    The calls for protests on Tuesday were triggered by news last week that police had shot and killed a 27-year-old unarmed Black man, Hansel Hernandez.

    A woman who identified herself as his aunt denounced the killing on social media and called for justice, grabbing attention amid protests against police violence and racism in the United States.

    For three days, authorities did not comment. But on Saturday, Cuba’s Interior Ministry issued a statement saying police had been chasing Hernandez, who had done jail time previously for other crimes.

    Hernandez, who had committed an act of vandalism, started throwing stones at police as they chased him and hit one officer in the shoulder, throwing him to the ground, the statement said.

    The officer shot Hernandez after firing off two warning shots, the statement said, adding that he acted in self defense and without the intent of killing him.

    The Interior Ministry said it lamented his death.

  14. Speaking of education, “Gregory L. Schneider, who is the Roe R. Cross Distinguished Professor of Emporia State University in Kansas. … sent along the following text that parents ought to print off and pass along to their high school and college age kids:”

    An excert follows. The full letter can be seen at https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/06/guest-column-what-i-will-tell-students-in-the-fall.php

    You might ask right now: How can we celebrate the vision of the founders when we had such rampant racism from the end of Reconstruction until the civil rights movement of the 1960s? And what about today? I mean, how can you say that America is a great nation given what happened to George Floyd? How can we think anything good about a country and its people who fought brutal wars against the natives in the West? And who trampled on the rights and freedoms of women, and exploited immigrant labor for profit? How can we think that this country represented anything more than the selfish interests of a racist, misogynistic, plutocratic, and nativist caste? How can we think otherwise?

    Well, my young friends, you will be taught otherwise, but you will be instructed to think for yourselves in this class. The founders were flawed men, as all men are. They owned slaves in some cases; they perpetuated an elitist view of republicanism rather than democracy; and they failed to see the verity of Jefferson’s radical claim—all men are created equal. It took a civil war to bring about the doctrine of equality and it took the Reconstruction era to attempt to ensure it.

    It did not. What followed was a century of discrimination, racism, murder, hate for black Americans and for many other minority groups as well. Our job is to understand why this happened, not so we can alter the past to fit it to our own sensibilities (that just leads to charging against windmills, or tearing down statues, which serve as the same symbols as windmills for today’s Don Quixote’s). Rather, we understand the past in its own context so we can understand more forthrightly why things were the way they were. Knowing that racism was far worse long ago, may give one an appreciation for the life we live today, built on the work and legacy of people some castigate so easily, and triumphantly, as racists.

    We will address issues of racism in their proper context. The goal of this course is not to turn you into activists, but for you to acquire the knowledge to be good citizens and to learn from our past. At the same time, this class will affirm the great things about America. Not everything in American history is problematic—much in our history is splendid and worth celebrating.

    If historians are going to surrender their duties to instruct and to teach the context of the past in favor of redressing contemporary problems, you will learn much that will profit you on the barricades, but you will have no understanding of history. You will have no understanding of the importance of this moment in comparison with other moments. Nor will you understand why some people feel differently about the institutions and the traditions being cast asunder and why they oppose protestors and vandals tearing away the past.

    1. Excellent.

      Historians are taught, literally from day one, not to interpret events of the past by standards of today. They don’t always do that of course, but the bigger problem is that too many other “Social Science” programs, especially the *-Studies programs, don’t aim as high. Thus, their ‘scholarship’ is often nothing more than social justice infused navel gazing.

  15. The students are ignorant louts. The people who accede to them are a mixture of craven and malevolent.

  16. John 7-8: But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not.
    So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.
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    1. Jesus is not going to win this fight for us. We will all end up hanging on the cross ourselves if all we do is pray.

      We need more the likes of a Joshua for this one.

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