“He Chose His Poison”: Grandma Implicates Grandson As Bomb Thrower In Portland Attack

That is the review that Fox said her grandson later asked her to delete. That would seem an effort to destroy possibly incriminating evidence. It turned out that the grandmother was already going public with her identification.

Posting as “@TRUMPSGIRL2020,” Fox tweeted in response to the photo from protest: “This is my only grandson, I love him to death, and didn’t know he was going to do such a bad thing, I had been posting several things about the antifa and BLM, he knows I am against those riots bigtime … he chose his poison.”

In the meantime, Agard-Berryhill (who turned himself in) seemed to admit that he threw the device and also set a record for the use of the word “allegedly”: “The device I’ve been accused of allegedly throwing was allegedly given to me by an unknown protestor with full face coverings. I was allegedly told that it was a strobe firework that wouldn’t damage the building or harm anyone around it. Law enforcement has not contacted me for any alleged crime as of right now.” He told police that he was told to throw had “yellow cardboard packaging with blue stripes, was the size of a small ‘V8’ can, and had a green fuse.”

That is a familiar defense.  Shader reportedly blamed three African Americans with giving her the Molotov cocktail that she used to torch a police vehicle in New York.

Fox’s rave review of the vest in prominently quoted in the charging documents. She said that her grandson said that he was engaged in peaceful protests. He was shown protecting a naked woman during the protests.

Agard-Berryhill is not only looking at a federal charge of arson but he was on probation for a felony conviction when he was a minor after spending the past two years at Rogue Valley Youth Correctional Facility in southern Oregon.

 

 

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268 thoughts on ““He Chose His Poison”: Grandma Implicates Grandson As Bomb Thrower In Portland Attack”

  1. The miscreants that have attached themselves to the protests are just that, wrongdoers. They are opportunists who are venting their own personal spleens through the potential for chaos presented by the demonstrations. Including them in with the groups that truly want to reform the police and steer society away from the polarizing us versus them conditions exacerbated by the traitor Trump, is no different from calling all conservatives white supremacists. The extremes on both ends, anarchists and your basic looter or arsonist are of the same ilk as the mutts that parade around armed to the teeth and taunt society into making them use their weapons. They simply don’t count; but are there and must be dealt with. Just as an extremist who arms itself and invades the buildings that represent our freedoms and democracy should be arrested and have its rights and freedoms curtailed, these looters, arsonists, and vandals who threaten the public should be arrested and incarcerated.

    The base level of stress created by the polarizing of the nation under Trump, added to it the stress of the pandemic along with the stress of an arrested economy invites these extremists. However, we all have to deal with these basic stresses and understand that looting, arson, and vandalism are not acceptable releases, but crimes of opportunity. Good for his grandmother regardless of her political leanings. This mutt will be better for it as will the society. Arson, looting, and vandalism are not acceptable methods of protesting just as federal commandos descending on cities are not acceptable methods of policing.

    What is ironic is that one of the arguments gun nuts give for arming themselves to the teeth, if not the main one, is to defend their society against the jackbooted federal troops that will descend on them from Washington. Where were the militiamen and women when they were needed in Portland? Perhaps they were out defending America from the jackbooted NATO troops that were parachuting in, or the aliens from outer space. These defenders of America, who were conspicuously absent when the feds showed up in Portland, can be identified by the tinfoil they wrap around their ankles, to confuse the radar used by the aliens. You’ve seen them.

    1. “The miscreants that have attached themselves to the protests are just that, wrongdoers”.
      *****
      Yes, Democrats.

      1. Unfortunately, some Democrats and some Republicans and some members of other parties and some independents are wrongdoers.

        Trump is himself a wrongdoer (e.g., illegally failing to disclose his debt to Michael Cohen on his financial disclose form and then certifying it under penalty of perjury as correct and complete, frequently misusing funds — as with the border wall that was supposed to be paid for by Mexico, funneling taxpayer monies into his own pockets via Secret Service room and golf-cart rentals every time he visits his properties every few days).

        More importantly, Trump is failing the country, and too many in the GOP are letting him get away with it. His mishandling of the coronavirus alone is responsible for some of the deaths / longterm health problems for those who didn’t die / longterm economic problems for many. (And no, he’s not alone in responsibility. But as President, he has powers that no one else has, and his response has generally been inept and insufficient.)

        The Lincoln Project (@ProjectLincoln):
        “The president’s declining mental state continues. Two weeks ago he said he’d be releasing a health care plan today.
        “There’s no scheduled press conference, no release.
        “If Trump can’t even keep track of his Administration’s plans, how can we trust him with anything else? …”
        https://twitter.com/ProjectLincoln/status/1289906067057471488 (contains quotes from Trump from 2 weeks ago)

        Steven Dennis (Bloomberg News):
        “The *entire* European Union — population 446 million — is still averaging fewer cases per day than Florida alone. … For the most recent 7 days, USA has about 12X the EUs new cases and 24X the EUs death toll on a per capita basis.”
        https://twitter.com/StevenTDennis/status/1289759738649968641 (includes animations of new cases and deaths over time)

        1. This clown should be committed!

          What a ——- joke!

          I’m gonna take a wild guess that Bloomberg News is, wait for it, heavily “biased,” and comes from Little Napoleon Bloomberg “herself.”

          “Big Soda Ban” anyone?

          How about that “Lincoln Project?”

          Lincoln was the greatest and most destructive “criminal-of-high-office” in the history of the American republic Lincoln egregiously and treasonously denied the constitutional right to secession and Habeas Corpus (which could only be suspended by Congress in condition of rebellion not constitutional secession), the freedoms of speech, press, assembly, violated the requirement that Congress declare war for the common defense not for internal politics, confiscated legal and deeded private property, etc. To Lincoln’s credit, he was prophetic in predicting that, “America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we lose our freedoms it will be because we have destroyed ourselves from within (paraphrased).” Yep. Olde “Crazy Abe” was right. “Crazy Abe” destroyed the American republic of freedom “…from within.”

          1. Thanks for reading George.
            Glad to know that you have no counterevidence to the facts they presented.

            Trump said two weeks ago that he’d be releasing a health care plan today. He lied. He often lies.
            And the US has had a much higher death toll per capita than the EU, in part due to Trump’s incompetence.

            Tump has failed the country. He is unfit for the office.

            1. Commit, I just read an article regarding this imaginary health plan. Lindsey Graham has mentioned it (after golfing with Trump). But Graham seems to be the only Republican Senator with any knowledge of the plan.

              1. Since you don’t have the tools to critically evaluate any plan even in schematic outline and since the current Congress will just ignore him, why so impatient, Peter?

            2. And the US has had a much higher death toll per capita than the EU, in part due to Trump’s incompetence.

              Gainesville, I take it you’re either innumerate or fancy we can’t check Worldometers.

              1. @This is absurd:

                I’m not “Gainesville,” though I take it that for some unknown reason you find comfort in repeatedly pretending that I am.
                I’m neither innumerate nor did I “fancy” anything about people’s ability to use Worldometers.
                I did assume that it was sufficiently clear I was referring to Dennis’s claim that “For the most recent 7 days, USA has about … 24X the EUs death toll on a per capita basis,” though I could have made that clearer (e.g, by adding “recent” before “death toll”). Perhaps you have a short attention span and/or you had difficulty interpreting what I wrote in context.

                For the record, I don’t see any info on Worldometers re: daily deaths per capita for the US and the EU, but if I’m wrong about that — and they present that data but I simply failed to find it — then provide a link to it.

                My guess, though, is that you’re confusing Europe (which Worldometers does present info for as an entity) and the EU (which Worldometers does not present info for as an entity), though of course I could be wrong. Or maybe you don’t understand that “European Union” and “Europe” aren’t synonyms.

                1. For the record, I don’t see any info on Worldometers re: daily deaths per capita for the US and the EU,

                  You need to up your search skills, Gainesville. It’s simple to locate.

                    1. Mespo, I have no reason to believe you’re telling the truth.
                      And you clearly don’t understand the the thread: it’s TIA’s burden of proof, not mine, so you’d be “doing … research for” TIA, not for me.

                      “You’re as dumb as ever. … you’re an insufferable prig”

                      You’re projecting.

                      You’re also so inattentive that you can’t even remember that I’m a woman, despite my having told you previously.

                  1. My search skills are likely better than yours.

                    If you do a site-specific search on “European Union,” there are 0 results. One can certainly add up the #s for EU countries oneself. If you do that (paying attention to which countries are actually in the EU, which is a proper subset of the countries in Europe), you’ll find that the per capita deaths for the US is higher than the per capita deaths for the EU. But again, I was only referring to the last week, as should be clear from my OP. My guess is that you’re confusing the EU and Europe.

                    You must really be a snowflake to have such a hard time accepting that several different liberal people are posting here, not socks for a single “Gainesville.” Or perhaps I’ve misunderstood, and “Gainesville” is your idiosyncratic insult for liberals.

                    1. You must really be a snowflake to have such a hard time accepting that several different liberal people are posting here, not socks for a single “Gainesville.”

                      The term ‘snowflake’ does not mean what you fancy it means.

                    2. Still waiting for you to link to a Worldometers page to prove your claim that “It’s simple to locate [info on Worldometers re: daily deaths per capita for the US and the EU].”

                    3. Still waiting for you to link to a Worldometers

                      It is perfectly accessible to you, as it is to anyone else. Just type in the search terms.

                    4. It’s rather juvenile on your end to off the sentence to misrepresent the meaning.

                      I know how to access the site, as should be clear from my having pointed out that you’re likely “confusing Europe (which Worldometers does present info for as an entity) and the EU (which Worldometers does not present info for as an entity)” (emphasis added). If I hadn’t already accessed the site, I wouldn’t know italicized info.

                      In response to “I don’t see any info on Worldometers re: daily deaths per capita for the US and the EU,” you claimed “It’s simple to locate.” You’re the one with the burden of proof for your claim that the daily deaths per capita for the US and the EU is “simple to locate.” If you’re unwilling to post a link with the location of that info, so be it, and your claim will remain unsubstantiated.

                    5. Sorry, “to off the sentence” should be “tocut off the sentence…”

                    6. Commieted:

                      “My search skills are likely better than yours.”
                      ******************
                      I guess not better than mine. I found it. You’re as dumb as ever. I’m beginning to doubt you are Gainesville. He’s annoying but you’re an insufferable prig. And no, I’m not doing you’re research for you.

                    7. It’s rather juvenile on your end

                      You’re laying it on rather thick. Tell your handlers at Correct-the-Record you need to be more subtle and less verbose.

                    8. TIA, you still haven’t met your burden of proof.

                      And your bizarre imaginings about “handlers” is only that.

                    9. Forget the day last week, but more people died of Covid in Texas one day than 5 European countries put together.

                    10. Absurd’s fave cliche tag line>> (Something) doesn’t mean what you fancy it means. When queried about what Absurd thinks you might fancy there is never an answer back other than possibly a vague hallucinatory reference to “Gainesville” or “Dianne”.

            3. “The president’s declining mental state continues. Two weeks ago he said he’d be releasing a health care plan today.
              “There’s no scheduled press conference, no release.”

              – Needs To Be Committed
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              Joe Biden’s communist political officers/handlers should be jailed for elder abuse!

            4. “He [President Donald J. Trump] lied. He often lies.”

              – Needs To Be Committed
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              “If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor. Period. If you like your health care plan, you will be able to keep your health care plan. Period.”

              – Barack Obongo
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              OBAMA ORDERS RICE TO LIE

              “Emails Show Susan Rice Prepped To Lie By White House – 06:31 PM ET 04/29/2014”

              “Scandal: Newly obtained emails on Benghazi show then-U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice was coached by a key White House aide to lie and ignore the facts known and reported on the ground to make the administration look good. The fish rots from the head (i.e. Obama), as the saying goes, and no further proof is needed than a Sept. 14, 2012, email from Ben Rhodes, an assistant to the president and deputy national security adviser for strategic communications, contained in more than 100 pages of documents released by Judicial Watch and obtained in a Freedom of Information Act request. That email, with the subject line: “RE: PREP Call with Susan: Saturday at 4:00 p.m. ET,” was sent to other key White House staffers such as then-Communications Director David Plouffe and Press Secretary Jay Carney the day before now-National Security Adviser Susan Rice made her whirlwind tour on five Sunday news show appearances to specifically and emphatically blame an Internet video for the Sept. 11, 2012, attack on the American diplomatic mission in Benghazi, Libya, in which U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three other nationals were killed.
              One of the goals listed in the emails was the need for Rice “to underscore that these protests are rooted in an Internet video, and not a broader failure or policy.” She was also to “reinforce the President and Administration’s strength and steadiness in dealing with difficult challenges.” Her job was not to tell the truth, but to put lipstick on the Obama administration’s Benghazi pig.
              The documents include a Sept. 12, 2012, email from Payton Knopf, a former deputy spokesman at the U.S. Mission to the United Nations, in which Knopf informs Rice that senior officials had already dubbed the Benghazi attack “complex” and planned in advance. Yet Rice would still insist on her TV tour that the Benghazi terrorist attacks were “spontaneous.” In early April, former deputy CIA director Michael Morell, who was heavily involved in editing the now infamous talking points, told lawmakers it was Rice, on the Sunday shows, who linked the video to the Benghazi attack and that the video was not part of the CIA analysis.”

              – Investor’s Business Daily

            5. You insidiously defraud following the propagandist technique of North Korea which had its “first” “China Flu, 2020” case last week.

              You have no idea what the final statistics will be.

              It is impossible to know the ultimate enumeration of the “China Flu, 2020.”
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              “Covid 19 – Epidemic ‘Waves’”

              “One recurring theme of the COVID coverage is the fear (or the firm prediction) of second or third waves of the disease. We must “prepare for the second wave of COVID.” The UK Prime Minister, speaking outside Downing Street on Monday morning, urged the UK people to continue adhering to the “tough measures” to avoid a “second spike” of COVID-19.

              “The second or third waves are often portrayed as very likely, inevitable or probable by modelling studies.

              “Waves, as in the sea, are usually preceded by a trough, but this visual analogy is hardly ever mentioned; nor the appropriateness of forecasting waves in a coronavirus pandemic. We reviewed the evidence (Search strategy at the end) underpinning second-wave theory.”

              – Center For Evidence Based Medicine (CEBM)

        2. Joe Biden charges the Secret Service to stay at his place and I am guessing Barack is charging for his new place.

          1. George– Good point. I cut the cable rather than be lectured to by celebrities. Most movies are not much better. I would like to see Greyhound, read, and liked, the book. Hell or High Water and Wind River were pretty good, but there is a lot of rubbish for every good one. The Academy Awards are apparently going to be more diverse so, again, I’m not watching.

    2. “The base level of stress created by the polarizing of the nation under Trump…”

      The nation is polarized regardless of Trump. We were polarized before Trump and we’ll be polarized afterwards.

      “…and understand that looting, arson, and vandalism are not acceptable releases, but crimes of opportunity.”

      There are many in that group who are anarchists and marxists who want to tear down the entire society.

      “Where were the militiamen and women when they were needed in Portland?”

      Fortunately, the Federal government did what it was supposed to do: protect Federal property. Also, the autonomous zone in Seattle was eliminated. In the end, we didn’t need the militia, but that may change if the anarchists and marxists are allowed to break the law and threaten our society.

      1. Ivan

        You use words and terminology that you don’t fully understand. The so called anarchists and marxists don’t understand the meanings of these terms either. You are correct in identifying the polarized condition of the US before Trump. However, it goes without saying, and is indisputable, that no one before Trump built a platform so exclusively upon the separation of the left from the right as did/does Trump. Using lies, exaggerations, and blame, Trump has placed all the woes of this American society in the camp of the Democrats. He has openly stated that ‘only he’ can fix this, whatever ‘this’ is. It’s comes down to a choice for Trump of his way or the highway. The problem is that Trump has little to no idea of what he is doing. He crippled large segments of the US economy by introducing tariffs on China and Europe. Europe aligned itself more closely with Japan and China and China made record profits. American farmers took it in the rear and the taxpayer was forced to make huge subsidies, the very thing Trump accused everyone else of doing. Hypocrisy, ignorance, idiocy, and incompetence are the mainstays of the Trump administration. Unemployment was at record lows and dropping before Trump. The delayed retirement of millions of baby boomers due to the incompetence of the Bush administration created the openings, not Trump. The economy was on an upswing and China was about to be contained to a significant degree with a Pacific Rim economic pact that included all Pacific Rim countries from Australia to Japan, but not China. Trump screwed that up. Just about everything Trump has done speaks to the American hubris but not to the core economic and social goals intended by the founding fathers. Trump is an oligarch and aspires to be a dictator.

        The frustration created by Trump is a level of stress that can be attributed to Trump uniquely. There will always be the frustrations of living in a country with two choices, one more than a dictatorship. Ideologies rarely align. Republican and Democrat ideals can overlap but not in Trump’s world. The Trump administration provided one experience that is shared by both sides, that of venting one’s spleen. This offshoot of violence and threats lies mainly at the extreme yet many on the right call it comprehensively Democrat. Therein lies the problem, plain and simple.

        My stance has some weight to the right but I am primarily a progressive, a believer that we must evolve and the stupidest statement upon which too many Americans rest, is ‘If it ain’t broke, why fix it?’ I firmly believe this statement to be the precursor to ‘We never realized just how broke it was.’ There are a lot of things that need fixing and what holds us back are the myths that are fueled by American hubris. Time to wise up.

      2. Did you say currently “polarized?” The current “polarization” was resolved hypothetically as early as 1714.

        Go “Back to the Future,” young man, for the correct, moral, ethical and definitive resolution.
        ________________________________________________________________________

        “Earlier Resettlement Plans”

        “The view that America’s apparently intractable racial problem should be solved by removing Blacks from this country and resettling them elsewhere — “colonization” or “repatriation” — was not a new one. As early as 1714 a New Jersey man proposed sending Blacks to Africa. In 1777 a Virginia legislature committee, headed by future President Thomas Jefferson (himself a major slave owner), proposed a plan of gradual emancipation and resettlement of the state’s slaves. In 1815, an enterprising free Black from Massachusetts named Paul Cuffe transported, at his own expense, 38 free blacks to West Africa. His undertaking showed that at least some free Blacks were eager to resettle in a country of their own, and suggested what might be possible with public and even government support.7

        “In December 1816, a group of distinguished Americans met in Washington, DC, to establish an organization to promote the cause of Black resettlement. The “American Colonization Society” soon won backing from some of the young nation’s most prominent citizens. Henry Clay, Francis Scott Key, John Randolph, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, James Monroe, Bushrod Washington, Charles Carroll, Millard Fillmore, John Marshall, Roger B. Taney, Andrew Jackson, Daniel Webster, Stephen A. Douglas, and Abraham Lincoln were members. Clay presided at the group’s first meeting.8

        “Measures to resettle Blacks in Africa were soon undertaken. Society member Charles Fenton Mercer played an important role in getting Congress to pass the Anti-Slave Trading Act of March 1819, which appropriated $100,000 to transport Blacks to Africa. In enforcing the Act, Mercer suggested to President James Monroe that if Blacks were simply returned to the coast of Africa and released, they would probably be re-enslaved, and possibly some returned to the United States. Accordingly, and in cooperation with the Society, Monroe sent agents to acquire territory on Africa’s West coast — a step that led to the founding of the country now known as Liberia. Its capital city was named Monrovia in honor of the American President.9

        “With crucial Society backing, Black settlers began arriving from the United States in 1822. While only free Blacks were at first brought over, after 1827, slaves were freed expressly for the purpose of transporting them to Liberia. In 1847, Black settlers declared Liberia an independent republic, with an American-style flag and constitution.10

        “By 1832 the legislatures of more than a dozen states (at that time there were only 24), had given official approval to the Society, including at least three slave-holding states.11 Indiana’s legislature, for example, passed the following joint resolution on January 16, 1850:12

        ‘Be it resolved by the General Assembly of the State of Indiana: That our Senators and Representatives in Congress be, and they are hereby requested, in the name of the State of Indiana, to call for a change of national policy on the subject of the African Slave Trade, and that they require a settlement of the coast of Africa with colored men from the United States, and procure such changes in our relations with England as will permit us to transport colored men from this country to Africa, with whom to effect said settlement.’

        “In January 1858, Missouri Congressman Francis P. Blair, Jr., introduced a resolution in the House of Representatives to set up a committee

        ‘to inquire into the expediency of providing for the acquisition of territory either in the Central or South American states, to be colonized with colored persons from the United States who are now free, or who may hereafter become free, and who may be willing to settle in such territory as a dependency of the United States, with ample guarantees of their personal and political rights.’

        “Blair, quoting Thomas Jefferson, stated that Blacks could never be accepted as the equals of Whites, and, consequently, urged support for a dual policy of emancipation and deportation, similar to Spain’s expulsion of the Moors. Blair went on to argue that the territory acquired for the purpose would also serve as a bulwark against any further encroachment by England in the Central and South American regions.”13

        – Robert Morgan
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        The “emancipation” of freed slaves into the greater United States constituted mass illegal immigration, the “…discordant intermixture…” having an “…injurious tendency…” of Hamilton, as the Naturalization Acts of 1790, 1795, 1798 and 1802 required citizens to be “…free white person(s).”
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        “The influx of foreigners must, therefore, tend to produce a heterogeneous compound; to change and corrupt the national spirit; to complicate and confound public opinion; to introduce foreign propensities. In the composition of society, the harmony of the ingredients is all-important, and whatever tends to a discordant intermixture must have an injurious tendency.”

        – Alexander Hamilton

  2. I remember the Chicago police riot at the democrat convention in 1968. Portland needs a remake of that.

    1. Good point. After the beatdown some seemed to back off from rioting.

      The Democrats seem to love the Chinese since they poisoned the world with viruses [ and maybe filled some purses] so perhaps we should adopt the Chinese methods of dealing with these hoodlums: let the police beat the living crap out of them before idiot judges get a chance to nurse and nurture the poor lads who were just expressing themselves.

      1. Yes, I liked the video of the cavalry showing up for the rescue. Be nice if a few horses stepped on protester’s feet.

      2. By the way, Andy Ngo is doing superb and dangerous work. He seems better informed than the FBI and seems to care more than they do. Too busy undermining the republic to worry about the destruction of a few cities, I suppose.

      3. LoorenzoValla…….After living in Austin for 37 years, (until 2006 ) i can say with confidence that there are not enough fainting couches to accommodate the liberal intelligentsia and academics of Central and West Austin. I’m sure they are in shock that last night law enforcement was active, the cavalry was called and the foot police were in riot gear!
        They rival the same level of breathless hysterics as Aunt Pittypat’s famous outburst “Yankees in Georgia!!??” LOL

        P.S. Since the 1990’s, Austin’s “sister city” has been Portland Or.

  3. And, in other news, Dr. Phd. Li Meng Yan said this week on Newsmax’s War Room, that the “China Flu” is not from nature. Dr. Yan works in the world’s premier virology lab at Hong Kong University with the best virology research team in the world. Dr. Yan and her team say that the “China Flu” came from the People’s Liberation Army’s lab. Dr. Yan also stated that the WHO was complicit. Dr. Yan was speaking at a conference in Washington D.C which included Sen. Ted Cruz.

    The world has the evidence of China and the WHO’s culpability in the malicious, criminal release of “China Flu,” COVID-19, the coronavirus, with disastrous global effects.

    It is long past time to put the evidence in the International Court of Justice, or any other court in the world, simply to obtain a judgement on the truth which the world must be provided.

  4. There’s video out there showing ANTIFA directing and paying people to cause problems. If the police were allowed to do their job we could in a number of instances head off many of the problems. Cut the head off and the body will die. Master Gabriel Sebastian Agard-Berryhill (with a name like that you would think he’s royalty) is an example of why this country never should have stopped the draft. I’ve seen a number of young men taken off the streets and made into productive members of our society as a result of a strict DI. It’s amazing after 8 to 12 weeks of military direction the change over a person who was about to be sentenced to time in the lock up. When we put these early offenders in lock up with the seasoned offender they just get worse. Give them a choice 4 years Military or time in the can.

    1. is an example of why this country never should have stopped the draft.

      Military conscription in this country, prior to 1940, was in effect from 1863-65 and from 1917-18. It was a common feature of life from 1940-1973, and it didn’t stop us from breeding a large mass of hoodlums who made urban life escalatingly miserable during the period running from 1960 to 1980. At the time, the military wouldn’t take 1/4 of the male youth population, and the share they disqualified was thick with troublesome youngsters. Let the police and the prison system do their jobs and let the military do its job. It’s job is to defend the shores, not to run social engineering projects.

      1. Mr absurd, it’s clear you never served this nation and have no experience in military life. It’s also clear you absolutely have no experience of life in the lock up. I would love to put you in a cell for a week with the smells, sounds and looks you’d get from the inmates. After being someone’s girlfriend I’m sure you’ll have a change of heart.

        1. Mr absurd, it’s clear you never served this nation and have no experience in military life.

          (1) Not clear and (2) irrelevant

          I would love to put you in a cell for a week with the smells, sounds and looks you’d get from the inmates.

          You have an unseemly hostility to a random stranger whose offense is he took exception to something you said.

          After being someone’s girlfriend I’m sure you’ll have a change of heart.

          IOW, we put people in the military that the military itself does not want (and did not want during an ere when 65% of a typical male cohort had some sort of military service) in lieu of building single-occupancy prison cells and hiring more guards. Sounds like a plan.

          While we’re at it, I doubt buggery is all that common in the geriatric cell blocks.

          1. Mr absurd, I have no hostility toward you, just commenting you’re lacking experience re the military and the world of incarceration. The fact remains you’ve never served this nation nor do you know anything about arrest and incarceration. That’s real clear and quite relevant. End of debate, enjoy your day.

            1. just commenting you’re lacking experience re the military and the world of incarceration. The fact remains you’ve never served this nation nor do you know anything about arrest and incarceration.

              I’m fascinated, how are we related?

              Mr absurd, I have no hostility toward you

              You said you wanted me in a jail cell with a man who would forcibly bugger me.

          1. @george, Not sure if you mean me? 36K20 Qui Nohn, Bon Son, Dong Ha. Never made it to Saigon. Certainly not highly decorated just a dogface.

              1. Radio relay, me another man just us alone on a hill for 6 months. Long enough to cause me some big issues during my life time. Nearly bit it twice. Came into country by troop ship Qui Nohn, as a resort I couldn’t tell you. 3 stops that’s right between Qui Nohn and Dong Ha quite a long stretch.
                Your up tell me about your service, let’s have the skinny on your tour.

                1. That is very unusual. Two men on a hill for six months. How many cases of C-rations were required? At some point, you would be forced to eat the Ham and Lima Beans. Did you maintain or defend the equipment? In my experience, a distant, two-man position would be very difficult to sustain in a free-fire zone.

                  1. @George I would be happy to give you a complete detail on my time running a relay. What we ate, what equipment had to defend our position, how we used the radios everything you want to know. Give me a safe email to correspond or phone and we’ll share our service experiences anytime. So your turn: SFG, 11Bravo20, SOCOM? PS: To this day I hate Franks and Beans! I loved the stew I used to take a marble size piece of C4 put it in an empty C-rat can lite it and heat the stew up in minutes. What did you like and do with C’s, My Brother.

                    1. 6-month deployments to three hilltops would equal a one and a half-year tour. It’s 300 miles from Qui Nohn to Dong Ha – 484 klicks. Did you two men hump that with radio relay gear? Even a few klicks a day are difficult in 95 degrees at 95% humidity, through swampland, dense jungle foliage and up and down hills. A Huey/Chinook insertion/extraction would broadcast your position.

              2. @George, so what did you do SOCOM, an SFG,11BRAVO20? As a Brother and just a guy who volunteered to stay in the boonies alone with another guy, no support, I will kiss your ass. I think you guys as my Brother are the GREATEST no finer in the service.
                So please as my Brother in arms which unit? I’m serious I think you guys are the GREATEST, as for me I was a nothing.

                1. @george, What’s you’re e-mail or phone I’ll share ALL my service with you? I’ve asked you 2 or 3 times now what your MOS was and where you did your tour/s and you have yet to share that with me, why not?

                  1. How do two men defend a position? Was the radio relay equipment stealthy; invisible to Charlie? 6-month deployments to three hilltops would equal a one and a half-year tour. It’s 300 miles from Qui Nohn to Dong Ha – 484 klicks. Did you two men hump that with radio relay gear? Even a few klicks a day are difficult in 95 degrees at 95% humidity, through swampland, dense jungle foliage and up and down hills. A Huey/Chinook insertion/extraction would broadcast your position.

                    Do those numbers add up?

                    1. @george, Did you serve, what was your MOS, outfit, Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines. I’ve already shared my information with you, DID YOU SERVE? It’s OK to say no, no one will think any worse of you. Your grilling me looks like an attempt to deflect from you for some reason, why? Geez guy it’s OK.

                    2. VietVet,

                      Is your nom-de-plume your claim to fame in life? There were 3 million Americans who served in Vietnam, something well under one million actually fought the war in combat, 58,000 died and there is one who indirectly claims credit for service through the use of an Internet moniker, VietVet.

                      How do two men defend a position? Was the radio relay equipment stealthy; invisible to Charlie? 6-month deployments to three hilltops would equal a one and a half-year tour. It’s 300 miles from Qui Nohn to Dong Ha – 484 klicks. Did you two men hump that distance with radio relay gear? Even a few klicks a day are difficult in 95 degrees at 95% humidity, through swampland, dense jungle foliage and up and down hills. A Huey/Chinook insertion/extraction would broadcast your position. Did you forage or trap for food? Did you have enough C-4 to cook for 6 months?

                      Do those numbers add up?

                    3. Did the soda kids come up the hill to sell you cokes – a buck apiece?

                      Not a lot of profit for them in sales to only two men, huh?

                  2. @ VietVet:

                    Just a heads-up that George is not a well person. He regularly posts long white supremacist comments, opposes women having the right to vote, …
                    I don’t know whether he’s a vet or not.

                    1. Needs To Be Committed is now a doctor who attempts to nullify the Constitution and the freedom of speech.

                      Needs To Be Committed acknowledges the truth: He Does Not Know

                      Who would legitimize anything by a poster who admits that he does not know.

                      Thanks for reading.

                    2. The American Founders opposed women’s suffrage. I pointed out that the American fertility rate is in a “death spiral” and the population in America is imported – America and Americans are vanishing, apparently, just what you want. The vote, ultimately, does women no good if America doesn’t exist. Women need to make Americans. The 19th Amendment is a death warrant for America – women will be voting in a foreign country – a country of foreigners. China – 1.4 billion. India – 1.3 billion. America needs more Americans made by American women.

      2. “Military conscription in this country…was in effect from 1863-65…”

        Abraham Lincoln, aside from unconstitutionally denying fully constitutional secession to southern states, smashed the presses, threw publishers in prison and nullified the freedoms of speech, press and assembly through the suspension of Habeas corpus, and insidiously compelled a feckless and intimidated Congress to force once-free American citizens in northern states to submit to an unpopular* military draft and be deployed to fight, not a legal war to “…provide for the common defense,…,” ** but an antithetical and illegal war of Northern aggression against a sovereign foreign nation.

        As did Hitler, Lincoln backed into office with 38% of the vote then seized power, subsequently ruling as a tyrant and despot by executive order and proclamation.

        The entire Lincoln era, including its resultant “Reconstruction Amendments, was and is an aberration, illegitimate and unconstitutional.

        The effects of the Lincoln era abide as it awaits substantial and severe corrective action – a Renaissance of the Constitution in America.
        ___________________________________________________________________________________________________________
        *
        “The New York Draft Riots occurred in July 1863, when the anger of working-class New Yorkers over a new federal draft law during the Civil War sparked five days of some of the bloodiest and most destructive rioting in U.S. history.”

        – Wiki
        _____
        **
        Preamble to the U.S. Constitution

        “We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.”

    2. That’s why the police are being forbidden to intervene. They would shut down these idiot children in a day, and dem leaders know it, they know it perfectly well. The’d rather be able to posture at Trump sending federal aid to boost their election prospects. They clearly believe the American people are truly very stupid.

      The reason this is coming from a grandmother is due to the fact that parents like this kid’s are essentially complicit through non-intervention, as well. Can’t hurt his feelings, y’know. He was probably being raised by grandma, anyway.

      1. He’s a cretin right now and if he goes to prison he’ll become a bigger problem when he gets out. Military is fine with me.

        1. In the military he would soon bring punishment down on his entire platoon and the guys would sort the little turd out while the NCOs found other things to do. It has worked in every army.

          1. Mr Young, Here, here. Very well said. I was just trying to point that out to Mr absurd but he thought I was hostile, sometimes I guess I just say things in the wrong way? I’ve had the opportunity to see young men like this kid readjust, leave service, go to college and become great Americans. I’ve also been in a position to escort young men into prison and wondered if they were drafted or given the option to enlist would the outcome be better? I sure as hell wouldn’t want my kids going into a lock up! This kid apparently has had no guidance, maybe he would have found that in the military, better there then in jail. Maybe all these kids roaming the streets rioting, looting, burning each night would be far better off in the service? A little love for country, the flag and self respect and respect for others is a good thing.

            1. This kid apparently has had no guidance,

              Maybe he didn’t. I could certainly have introduced you to a middle-aged woman who had a satisfactory quantum of guidance though not an optimal upbringing. Cannot any more. She drank herself to death, outliving her mother by 11 months.

  5. Jonathan: You mislabeled your post. It should have read: “Grandma Turns on Her Grandson Because She is a Trump Supporter”. When a Trump supporting grandmother turns in her grandson you know to what extent the “cult of the personality” operates. Family members are willing to turn on each other to prove their loyalty to the “leader”.

    In his testimony before the House this week AG Barr tried to paint all protesters with the same brush. He said:that “violent rioters and anarchists have hijacked legitimate protests to wreck senseless havoc and destruction…” Your post is simply an attempt to bolster Barr’s false narrative. Now had you wanted to appear to be unbiased you could have mentioned another case. In Minneapolis police have identified one of Barr’s “violent rioters and anarchists” who smashed windows of an Auto Zone store with a hammer. He is identified as the “Umbrella man” because he dressed in all black, a face mask and carried an umbrella. It turns out he wasn’t an anti-fascist protester but a member of the Hell’s Angels and a white supremacist group intent on escalating racial tensions after the murder of George Floyd.

    The “umbrella man” case illustrates the point that, historically, many mass movements are infiltrated by agent provocateurs. People sent in by governments or outside groups to foment violence, sowing divisions among protesting groups or simply to create “chaos” to justify a harsh police crackdown. In the case of Portland, Trump sent in his stormtroopers to deliberately provoke violence because the “optics” will prove useful during the re-election campaign.

    It is interesting that Agard-Berryhill says: “The device I’ve been accused of throwing was allegedly given to me by an unknown protestor (sic) with full face coverings. I was allegedly told that it was a strobe firework that wouldn’t damage the building or harm anyone around it”. It appears Agard- Berryhill didn’t intend to damage anything or hurt anyone. Who was the “unknown protestor (sic)”? Was he possibly an agent provocateur intent on provoking violence? As a self-described experienced criminal defense attorney I would think you would raise this issue as a possible defense–that Agard-Berryhill didn’t have the requisite “intent”. Perhaps the police investigation will, if fairly and thoroughly pursued, uncover the identity of the “unknown”: protester that gave Agard-Berryhill the device. That doesn’t mean Agard-Berryhill is entirely innocent. He did throw the device.The salient point here is that before you try to taint the case by pointing out Agard-Berryhill was on probation for a prior felony offense as a minor, which is irrelevant, let’s get all the facts.

    In your attempt to smear the mostly peaceful protests you deliberately omit a discussion of the more serious violations of the protesters constitutional rights. In Portland protesters say that after their arrest without charges by Trump’s keystone cops they were told that as a condition of their release they had to promise not to attend future demonstrations. That is a clear violation of their “free speech” rights–a subject you only discuss at length when it involves conservative or right-wing teachers and university professors. I call this professorial myopia! I hear political myopia is treatable.

    1. If the dems had a single candidate or elected official that wasn’t a spineless tool, moron, or nut-case (or all three) some of us would not be voting for Trump. Such as it is, I am now voting a straight Republican ticket, which I have never done (lifelong independent). Comments like yours and actions like theirs cement it further every day. Enjoy The tone deaf bed you’ve made and continue to make as you still have to share the earth with everyone outside of your bubble whether you like it or not. Time to grow up.

  6. I am astonished by this case! This kid is 18 yo now on probation for a prior felony conviction having spent 2 years in a youth correction facility. Good Lord, this kid was a very young teen when he committed the felony. And now participating in violent street protests while on probation. This kid is a train wreck, incorrigible. He has failed his chance at restorative justice. Rec: federal prison for 10 years (and his negligent parents need to be investigated)

  7. Notice that her review shows she was supportive when she thought he was just a protester. It’s when she learned he was a bomber and rioter she changed her mind.

  8. This is my only grandson, I love him to death

    I hope she has grand-daughters. Would be terrible to have all your eggs in that basket.

  9. I don’t think ignorance should be a good defense. It doesn’t matter who gave the potential weapon to whom; the fact that it’s thrown or used against someone else, the person who threw it is culpable. To me, it’s no different than my being ignorant for exactly how my car runs–I’ve no idea how the engine really works–but if I negligently or purposefully hit someone with my car, I’m culpable.

    Additionally, it’s my impression that many of these rioters are supported by their parents and grandparents, in funding, supplying, encouraging, etc. This aids and abets these rioters in carrying out their crimes. It’s possible that many of the older generation supporting this have been duped by their young charges into thinking that the rioters are just being “peaceful” or have been seduced by the warm embrace of the BLM cause.

  10. Well hopefully he will “allegedly” be in a great deal of “alleged” trouble and “allegedly” spend the next 5 years in an “alleged” federal lockup, “allegedly”.

  11. Agard-Berryhill is not only looking at a federal charge of arson but he was on probation for a felony conviction when he was a minor after spending the past two years at Rogue Valley Youth Correctional Facility in southern Oregon.

    Waal, it’s time to send him up for another stint. And if he re-offends after his release, another. As many as it takes for him to get the message. My sympathies to the various adults who’ve had charge of this incorrigible the last 16 years (to the extent they are not to some degree responsible via stupidity or negligence; having a double-barrelled name is correlated with parental asininity).

    1. I don’t want this little creep to ” get the message”. I want him put somewhere that it makes no difference whether he gets the message and nobody cares about messages. Treat him like a dangerous animal. Nobody sends them messages; they deal with them.

          1. Who said he ever received it? It’s not clear who his parents are, much less how they operated at home.

            1. I do not need to examine his parents or upbringing or his adolescent woes. All I need to know is what he is, however he became what he is, and that is sufficient to put him where he can no longer cause harm. The prison psychiatrists can play with him in a safe environment. We don’t need him set loose on the rest of us.

              1. I do not need to examine his parents or upbringing or his adolescent woes.

                Waal, then don’t make reference to them.

                All I need to know is what he is, however he became what he is, and that is sufficient to put him where he can no longer cause harm.

                Again, the mean time in state prison for those remanded there is 30 months. With very few exceptions, those people are harmful. You punish them, then, after a while, you stop punishing them. If he commits a crime for which the customary sentence is a multi-decade term, fine. He ain’t anywhere near that.

  12. Someone tell the dumbschmuck to stop smoking. Or use a pistol to kill himself. Guns are quicker. 485,000 deaths caused by smoking in America last year.

  13. The name “Agard-Berryhill” literally could not be more Anglo-Saxon. i.e. white European, both parts of his double-barreled surname.

    Yet the wannabe’s appropriated nom de guerre is “Rico” — which I guess he thinks makes him sound more “exotic” with his revolutionary comrades.

    Yep. As his capture shows, he’s definitely in the lumpen proletariat section of the *movement* and not vanguard material.

    1. His grandmother acquired the surname Fox when she married in 1971. She was divorced in 1977, but continues to use the name. I’d have guessed she was the maternal-side grandmother. I’m curious to know how he acquired the name he has.

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