A Return To Rage: Schumer and Pelosi Attack Members Who Voted To Acquit As Political Cowards and Shills

There was a palpable sense of relief in Washington as the Trump trial came to a chaotic but final end. The verdict is in so now the vilification can begin. Both Majority Leader Chuck Schumer and Speaker Nancy Pelosi immediately weaponized the verdict and demonized those who voted to acquit. While the Democrats insisted that all senators should “vote their conscience” that only meant if their conscience supported their side.  Pelosi denounced opposing senators as cowards while Schumer lashed out at them for holding an opposing view of the evidence or the process.  While groups are targeting members on both sides of the trial, our leaders should be calling for unity and civility after the trial. Instead, they are fueling the politics of division.

CNN and other media followed suit. While McConnell denounced Trump and said that he could still be held accountable for any crimes, CNN hosts Wolf Blitzer and Dana Bash immediately followed his speech by denouncing him as hypocritical. There was nothing hypocritical in denouncing Trump’s conduct as “unconscionable” while also maintaining that the trial was unconstitutional. What Democratic members and commentators would not accept is that anyone could hold opposing views on these questions and not be a shill or coward. Welcome to unity in 2021. It remains unity on our terms or else. The “or else” was made clear to Trump’s defense counsel soon after the verdict. Attorney Michael Van der Veen’s home was vandalized. Other lawyers have faced harassment and threats after campaigns targeting them by groups like The Lincoln Project for representing Trump or Republicans.

The media quickly reinforced the rejection of any possibility that senators could have voted their conscience.  CNN Reporter Abby Phillip stated as a fact that there is no real argument that a former president cannot be tried for impeachment. Thus, any vote on that basis was dishonest and craven. As with past coverage, the hosts simply ignored professors, judges, and legendary figures like Justice Joseph Story who have argued against retroactive trials. Moreover, many academics who have studied this issue (including myself) have said that it is extremely close. While we all reach conclusions, most of us have stated that people of good faith can disagree on where the default should be on the question. That however is not what CNN viewers were told. Phillip and her colleagues insisted that there is no real debate — as did the House managers.  Thus, anyone voting with the view of figures like Justice Story are liars or cowards or lying cowards. You choose.

The rage expressed by such figures deflected attention from those most responsible for the loss of this trial: the House leadership. As I have previously discussed, there was no evidence of a strategy to convict as opposed to enrage in this trial. First, the House leadership used a “snap impeachment” without even a day for hearings. The House had from Jan. 6th to Jan. 20th (since there was little chance of a Senate trial before Trump left office). At a minimum, it could have held a couple days of hearings to create a record. Instead, it decided to send an article of impeachment for the first time in history without any record of a hearing, investigation, or even a chance for Trump to respond.

Second, it drafted an article of impeachment for “incitement of insurrection” – a poorly conceived article that all but guaranteed a loss. It could have crafted the article in a myriad of ways to garner broader support but House leadership wanted to accuse Trump of trying to start a rebellion against the United States. Finally, it could have called witnesses for four weeks to offer testimony on Trump’s state of mind, a dozen witnesses who could establish what Trump said and did in these critical hours. It refused to do so.

The incoherence of the House case was made plain in the final hours when lead House manager Jamie Raskin threw the trial in disarray by demanding witnesses just before closing arguments. The Senate had reportedly decided against that option but Raskin rose and, like a scene out of Perry Mason, claimed that a new witness had emerged the night before: Rep. Jaime Hererra Beutler (R-WA). Raskin breathlessly described how the House just saw news reports that Beutler had information on a phone call between Trump and House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) where Trump showed support for the rioters. The problem is that the claim did not appear to be true. Beutler’s account was public before the trial began and the McCarthy call was known to the House for over four weeks. The demand only highlighted the failure of Raskin and the House to call a single fact witness in the House for four weeks on this and other reports.

Yet, the Senate Democrats could not risk the ire of their base if they opposed the House managers. They had to follow Raskin over the cliff. In commenting live on the Raskin’s demand, I noted that he had clearly taken the senators by surprise and that these are politicians who are risk adverse and unlikely to go down the road of the unknown with Raskin. There is a reason why the House has been timid about calling witnesses who might also show that the House was warned of the prospect of violence, refused National Guard troops, and was negligent in dealing with the riot. Witnesses would also highlight the failure of the House to call such witnesses for a month. Finally, some of that testimony might not support the House’s suggestion that Trump delayed the deployment of troops or other parts of the unchallenged narrative by managers.

The result was as incoherent as Raskin’s argument.  So, as expected, they reversed the vote by pretending that they were supporting the House managers. They agreed to a stipulation that was so absurd that it only lacked the requisite joke drum beat.  Raskin had already described Beutler’s account on the record in his remarks. Yet, the Senate had him agree to a stipulation to again describe the call and then drop his demand. It was stipulating that a piece of hearsay that was previously discussed on the record could be stated on the record. To make even more absurd, the statement quoted Beutler as saying that she had previously discussed the call in public – directly refuting what Raskin told the Senate. Keep in mind Raskin had just claimed that this was new evidence from “last night” and that the Senate now needed to call witnesses on this “additional critical piece of corroborating evidence further confirming the charges.”

Here is what he then read to the Senate from Beutler: “I have shared these details in countless conversations with constituents and colleagues and multiple times to the media and other public forums. I told it to the Daily News of Longview on January 17th. I’ve shared it with local county Republican executive board members as well as other constituents who asked me to explain my vote. I shared it with thousands of residents on my telephone Town Hall on February 8th.” It was new evidence that she shared with thousands over weeks of public statements?

None of that matters of course because the House never showed any intention of establishing Trump’s state of mind or even prevailing in the trial. The true purpose was made manifestly clear by Schumer and Pelosi within minutes of the verdict. There would be no allowance for a good-faith vote unless it was a vote in favor their position. While the House Republicans refused to punish Rep. Lynn Cheney for her vote to impeach, Schumer and others are only willing to recognize such a vote of conscience in favor of their side. To hold an opposing view was pronounced not just by the Democratic leadership but the media as craven cowardice or virtual treason.  It is precisely the type of rhetoric and false labeling by Trump that many of us denounced over the last four years. There is no room for disagreement; only patriots and traitors.

And so the age of rage will continue not because it must but because we love it.

 

559 thoughts on “A Return To Rage: Schumer and Pelosi Attack Members Who Voted To Acquit As Political Cowards and Shills”

  1. Patriotic Americans have a duty and desire to HATE the enemies of freedom and democracy and the terrorist GOP and their terrorist cult leader Trump and those who defend them are public enemy number 1.
    9/11 we will never forget!
    1/6 we will NEVER forget!

    1. They say this cat Emily Shaft is a bad muthafu…..

      You tell em.

      Someone’s gonna bring Trump to heel.

      When Mitch McConnell turns on you, you’re screwed.

      1. When Mitch McConnell turns on you, you’re screwed.

        Thanks for the wish-fulfillment fantasy. Been an education.

    2. 9/11 won’t be forgotten…but stains like you will for fomenting hate and division by calling patriotic citizens terrorists and the best president for the common man since Ronald Reagan. It is people like you and whom you prop up that are public enemy #1. A senile Chinese funded dim bul , backed by a race baiting half wit whom could not even garner 2% of her party when she ran for potus. The summer of hate , burning , looting mayhem and murder indulged in by your “people” says everything about you… your hate , your divisiveness , and your total anti constitutional sickness.

      1. 1/6 won’t be forgotten as it was far more heinous than 9/11.

        9/11 was a bunch of kamikaze ragheads crashing planes into NYC and the Pentagon as payback for all the dirty deeds done by America in the Middle East.

        1/6 was a bunch of easily-lead, mullet-headed, morally, financially and intellectually bankrupt Americans-who-should-have-known better zombified by a flatulent conman into trying to overturn a perfectly legal election.

        One expects that sort of behavior from angry Muslims, but not from Americans.

    3. Emilyshaft, shut up you libtwerp moron!! You lousy wussy cowardly leftists are the terrorists, not us Patriots!!!!

          1. Use a finer grain of meth.

            The dumbest 50% of America had their ideal president for four years and he completely screwed it up.

            Why?

            Because you’re a pack of morons.

  2. The six words in the Presidential Oath won out. ‘to the best of my ability.’ But we got a preview on what the verdict would have been had it been Comrade Schumer or Comrade Pelosi being judged on their best. So much for Socialisms first month but watch out for the recriminations and back lashes against the Citizens …. I do believe that $ 1400 is going to turn into as much of a pipe dream as Schumer and Pelosi’s abilities.

    1. Pelosi is a badass.

      She is 10 times smarter, 100000 times richer, 10 times more relevant and 10000 times more effective than you could ever possibly hope to be in your job as Barista of the Month.

      Pelosi and Schumer are standing for truth, justice and the American way holding off a tsunami of greedy b******* from the Republican party.

      Thank God for those two.

      You Trumpers are really something.

      There’s no excuse for any American to be that stupid and gullible.

      You embarrass me. You embarrass yourself.

      1. A letter to Benji from President Donald J. Trump, The Invincible
        _________________________________________________

        “We have so much work ahead of us.”

        “Soon we will emerge with a vision for a bright, radiant and limitless American future.”

        Trump Celebrates Acquittal, Hints At Political Future
        By Matt Margolis Feb 13, 2021 5:51 PM ET

        President Trump thanked his lawyers “for their tireless work upholding justice and defending truth” in a statement released shortly after his acquittal in the U.S. Senate. He also thanked the U.S. Senators and Members of Congress” who stood proudly for the Constitution we all revere and for the sacred legal principles at the heart of our country,” by opposing his impeachment and supporting his acquittal.

        The acquittal was expected as it was seen as impossible that 17 Republicans would join with the Democrats, whose case for conviction was shattered by Trump’s defense team, which, amongst other things, presented video of Democrats using the same rhetoric Trump used in his January 6 speech, destroying the narrative that Trump incited the violence that occurred that day.

        Trump also lamented the “sad commentary on our times that one political party in America is given a free pass to denigrate the rule of law, defame law enforcement, cheer mobs, excuse rioters, and transform justice into a tool of political vengeance, and persecute, blacklist, cancel and suppress all people and viewpoints with whom or which they disagree.”

        Seven spineless Republicans joined with the Democrats in voting to convict.

        “I always have, and always will, be a champion for the unwavering rule of law, the heroes of law enforcement, and the right of Americans to peacefully and honorably debate the issues of the day without malice and without hate,” he continued. “This has been yet another phase of the greatest witch hunt in the history of our Country. No president has ever gone through anything like it, and it continues because our opponents cannot forget the almost 75 million people, the highest number ever for a sitting president, who voted for us just a few short months ago.”

        President Trump also gave a hint regarding his future in politics. “Our historic, patriotic and beautiful movement to Make America Great Again has only just begun. In the months ahead I have much to share with you, and I look forward to continuing our incredible journey together to achieve American greatness for all of our people. There has never been anything like it!”

        This second impeachment by the Democrats was certainly motivated by the desire to prevent Trump from running for president again. Their failure to make the case for conviction leaves open the possibility that Trump could run for President again in 2024.

        “We have so much work ahead of us,” he added. “And soon we will emerge with a vision for a bright, radiant, and limitless American future.”

        – President Donald J. Trump

        1. Trump is gonna die of a heart attack while shagging a sad stripper.

          There’s no comeback coming.

          The Republican party is a dysfunctional shambles.

          Yay.

          Couldn’t have happened to a nicer bunch of spineless weasels.

        2. “Seven spineless Republicans joined with the Democrats in voting to convict.” -Matt Margolis

          What an idiot.

          1. Matt Margolis is just another spineless, money-grubbing prole twit who backed the wrong horse.

            One of many.

            May he twist in the wind of his ignorance.

        1. I am making a custom crossword for Pelosi’s 80th birthday, which is March 26th.

          It’s a weird skill I have.

          I’ve made them for a couple of actresses and a Google CEO and a couple of others.

          I’m going to launch a Kickstarter as soon as they approve it, so stay tuned or email me.

          Shes’ a badass, standing up to the Banana Republicans for truth, justice and the American way.

      2. Wow…you drink way too much yellow dog koolaide…peeloosi and poop schumer badass?. Your world is upside down bruh. These are some of the biggest grifters of elite back door monies there ever were. Crooks , ticks , a cancer by any other name on our republic.

        1. Phergus you Ignorant Prole.

          Yes Pelosi and Schumer are patriots who stood up for truth, justice and the American way as Trump and his enablers did their best to dismantle America morally, financially and intellectually and turn it into a Third World. banana republic kleptocracy.

          They failed, thank God, because people like Pelosi and Schumer stood up to them.

          It takes a PhD to understand a lot of this but you struggle to spell PhD, don’t you?

  3. This trial achieved exactly what it was intended to achieve: it distracted the public’s attention from an election stolen in so brazen a manner that no third world country would get away with it, it gave an excuse to the Biden team for the fact that a suspiciously small number of Americans were interested in attending the inauguration of the guy we are to believe got more votes than Obama, and it has covered Biden’s blunders and abuses as well as the frankly terrifying legislation that is being drafted in the House, notably HR1. Further, the failed impeachment opens the door to criminal proceedings which they will undoubtedly pursue because the real goal is keeping DJT away from the White House. There are 80 million very ticked off Americans out there who saw their votes rendered null by abject corruption which was aided and abetted by everybody, including you JT, and those people can’t wait to vote Trump again. And that is something our de facto socialist president Soros cannot and will not allow. They would rather not have to assassinate him because they would create a martyr but they will come as close as they can without actual bullets.

    1. deblo, the election was not stolen. You’re either a knowing propagandist or you’ve been had and played for a fool.

          1. Anonymous the Stupid is making unfounded assumptions while reading Art’s mind something the hypocrite Anonymous the Stupid always whines about.

              1. Anonymous the Stupid you wouldn’t be saying that but for the fact that you have been posting dumb comments at me ever since the first time I signed onto this blog. You did so no matter what time I first signed on until the last time I signed off. You were nasty, supercilious and out of touch then and nasty, supercilious and out of touch now.

                The only thing different today is that you have a name, Anonymous the Stupid that sensible others have used when referring to you. That doesn’t say much for you, but it does tell others that you are Stupid..

                  1. Anonymous the Stupid you have said that before quite a few times. You are repetitive should I call you Polly the Stupid? No. Anonymous the Stupid sounds better and tells us more about your personality.

        1. AD: What is a “Gainesville” sock-puppet? I know what “sock-puppet” means, but not “Gainesville.” (That’s a sincere question.)

          1. He has been around a long time making stupid comments under different names but originally under the Gainesville moniker, I believe.

            1. Jan F. was the first name I know of. He hasn’t been afraid of changing his name, using multiple names in the same discussion or praising himself.

                  1. BM, I’m married and happy so I am not looking for any hetero or homosexual action. I am not standing in your way. You can have Anonymous the Stupid and do what you want with him.You are a weird sort of fellow so Anonymous the Stupid might like the unexpected thrills you have to offer.

                    1. “No one cares, buddy.”

                      Anonymous the Stupid, It is obvious you care. Don’t be bashful. Accept BM’s desires. The two of you would pair off nicely. Both of you could go for extended vacations where there is no Internet.

                1. Anonymous the Stupid, I think everyone can identify who I am. Are you too Stupid to recognize when I provide a name or sign my initials? When it appears your Stupidity has reached a climax it continues to climb.

      1. AnalJf ; It was stolen…but for some deluded – propaganda purveyors like you , truth is only a Stalinist dictum . It is you whom are the willing fool tool. A “twofer’ for you being that you shilled , killed and willed a lie to be truth. You would make a great reed guard murderer of truth in a Stalinist…or as you know a Chinese communist world. A communist world where your prophets…lord darth biden of chyna are puppets and all his sycophants down with the cancer against our freedoms whilst taking the new kings shilling…CHINA , COMMUNIST china. Look how your puppet bows and drools in subservience to chicoms…and you are down with it.

    2. Oh great another conspiracy theory whacko for Trump (CSWFT)

      Did you know Chemtrails are a government conspiracy designed to make Americans so gullible and dumb they actually believe Chemtrails are a government conspiracy?

      It’s working on you.

      If you really believe the election was fraudulent I’d like to sell you the Golden Gate Bridge.

      Trump lost cuz he’s a f****** and a failure. The American public elected him because they didn’t like Hillary..

      They gave him a shot and he failed. Utterly.

      There’s no excuse for any American to be that stupid.

      You embarrass me. You embarrass yourself.

  4. Why is it that when 50 Democrat Senators vote in lock-step on the constitutionality of a Retro-impeachment trial when it appears at least uncertain and from plain reading of the wording to be unconstitutional, there is not a question of their “conscious” and adherence to the law. That question is from clear and should have at least raised a few negative votes from members of both parties it seems.

    1. Douglas, how about the fact that the evidence could not be more clear and anyone who voted against conviction based it on a technicality which is not accepted by most constitutional experts or is brain dead and corrupt.

      He did it. We all know it, including you.

  5. “ CNN and other media followed suit. While McConnell denounced Trump and said that he could still be held accountable for any crimes, CNN hosts Wolf Blitzer and Dana Bash immediately followed his speech by denouncing him as hypocritical.”

    The news media is discredited

    https://www.city-journal.org/journalism-advocacy-over-reporting

    Slouching Toward Post-Journalism

    The New York Times and other elite media outlets have openly embraced advocacy over reporting.

    Revolutions tend to radicalization. The same is true of social media mobs: they grow ever more extreme until they explode. But the New York Times is neither of these things—it’s a business, and post-journalism is now its business model. The demand for moral clarity, pressed by those who own the truth, must increasingly resemble a quest for radical conformism; but for nonideological reasons, the demand cannot afford to leave subscriber opinion too far behind. Radicalization must balance with the bottom line.

    The final paradox of post-journalism is that the generation most likely to share the moralistic attitude of the newsroom rebels is the least likely to read a newspaper. Andrey Mir, who first defined the concept, sees post-journalism as a desperate gamble, doomed in the end by demographics. For newspapers and their multiple art forms developed over a 400-year history, Mir writes, the collision with the digital tsunami was never going to be a challenge to surmount but rather “an extinction-level event.”

  6. In Oregon it turns out math may be ‘white supremacist’ and we need to get away from the idea that there is a correct solution or that students show their work.

    Why is that? I imagine that no matter what the school does the black students, on average, do poorly on math. One thought is that that may be because the average IQ of the black population is only 85.

    The prevailing thought is that everything blacks don’t excel at is racist.

    The Oregon solution to this racism is to dumb down the entire curriculum so that everyone passes.

    https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2021/02/why-math-is-racist.php

    A professor at the U of Iowa says the classics should be dismantled and burned in order to smother white supremacy. That is sure to raise average black IQ just as taking down statures reduced the homicide rate in Baltimore.

    Home schooling and, when it can be afforded, private schooling may be the only choice for parents who want educated children. Increasingly, it appears that public schools are expensive failures at everything except being cash cows for union officials and various publishers and state officials and diversity hacks.

    Admiral Rickover once said that if a foreign power inflicted our public schools on us we would consider it an act of war they are so poor at educating. It has grown much, much worse since then.

    1. Interesting math problems (and many that aren’t very interesting) can often be solved correctly in more than one way. It’s certainly better for students to understand that and be exposed to different ways of solving a problem.

      1. True, but the emphasis here is that it is racist to say that there is a correct solution at the end of any pathway. I hope the school keeps its books that way. They deserve to fail.

        1. So Dave Brubeck was black? Benny Goodman too?
          Well, George Gerschwin certainly!
          This is such a silly conversation.

            1. The inhabitants of Haiti in the early 1800s considered themselves all white because the smallest drop of white blood made them so.
              In Mexico in the 1800s, they had more than sixty categories of ‘race,’ from pure Spanish ‘peninsulares’ to pure ‘indio.’
              In the United States and Europe, nations were considered races in the early 1900s.
              And on and on.
              Race is a mental construct to explain differences between groups of population who differ by a handful of genes. It is all but useless as an analytical tool. For example, some people believed that groups like Dion and the Belmonts sang in groups because they picked the practice up from blacks, others that call and answer was a distinctly black form of singing. But Dion & his buddies could have picked up group singing from any number of areas in Italy, including the bars of Piedmont, where groups of four, complete with a falsetto, sang silly songs when drunk, and call and answer is an old form of work song in a number of cultures.
              The problem with much contemporary scholarship is that it is superficial.
              The problem with discussions of racism is that they rest on powerful arguments, not established empirical realities.

              1. Whether you think there are objective criteria for race or not, schools do to the extent that they are prepared to destroy math, grammar, and the classics to achieve racial equality in outcomes.

                Whether race is real or not, the destruction of education, and much else, is real and it is well underway.

                1. Whine whine whine.

                  If you want to get a quality education all the materials are there.

                  It’s not the quality of the education that’s failings its the quality of the students.

                  People just get dumber and dumber every 10 years and we are at a new low right now.

                  Idiocracy is here.

                    1. ‘People just get dumber and dumber every t0 years.”

                      See above example: Ben Marcus, righteous surfer dude

                    2. ‘If you’re born dumb no amount of book learning is going to fix it.’

                      We can see that, Ben. Thank you for demonstrating it so clearly.

                    1. You are indulging yourself in the Canard if you think all surfers are dumb.

                      I made a family crossword puzzle for the CEO of Verily. Also known as Google Life Sciences. One of the smarter people in this country and he surfs as much as possible.

                      Couple of weeks ago I surfed Old Joe’s with Jonah Hill and Spike Jones – who won an Oscar for best screenplay for Her.

                      Who is the dude who won the Nobel Prize for PCR? He’s was a surfer.

                      Who else?

                      You’d be surprised how really intelligent guys like Kelly Slater and Greg Noll and Laird Hamilton are.

                      They might play dumb but it’s a disguise.

                      John Milius the guy wrote Red Dawn and Apocalypse Now and was one of the founders of MMA

                      Chris Carter, the guy who made a gazillion dollars producing The X-Files.

                      Brian Grazer from imagine entertainment.

                      Most of the time when I ride my bike down Colony Beach I see Flea from the Red Hot Chili Peppers going surfing. He’s pretty rough looking for a guy who’s worth a hundred and fifty million dollars.

                      Surfing is good for your brain and that’s why brainy people do it.

                    2. Ben– “Surfing is good for your brain and that’s why brainy people do it.”

                      ***

                      Funny. Ben is surfing (goofing on) everyone here.

                    3. “You are indulging yourself in the Canard if you think all surfers are dumb.”

                      Where did I say that? I do not think all surfers are dumb. Just looking at you, Ben.

                      Why do you name drop all the time? It’s really not an attractive quality.

                    4. I live in Malibu. Name-dropping is required.

                      Neil Young and Darryl Hannah are walking hand in hand through the parking lot as we speak.

                      Did I really write “Indulging yourself in the Canard?”

                      That’s incorrect, and it’s proper spelling and grammar that distinguish us from the Mongol races.

                    5. I tell you what, it was a sad day when Pegi Young died. He broke her heart when he left her for Daryl Hannah.

                    6. You bet, Anonymous @ 2:06pm. You know how turning your back to a highstrung dog could cause him to come up behind you and bite or nip at your heels? That’s you. Running around this blog biting and nipping. But still…it woud not be nearly as much fun around here without your snark. Carry on nipping at heels ya little nipper.

                      PS….I think Ben the surfer dude should run for Congress and come to Washington. It’s getting rather boring around there with Donald Trump.

                    7. Ben the surfer dude has been to Washington DC and there’s no way Ben the surfer dude is leaving Malibu for that place.

                      It’s probably the same reason Tulsi Gabbard bailed out.

                      Why leave Hawaii to go to that s*** show?

                  1. Whining and idiocy are found in abundance in the comments section of this blog.

                    Enjoy those ocean waves, Ben, and steer clear of this toxic place. FWIW.

                    1. “It’s amazing what you can learn arguing with know nothings.”

                      Can’t say I disagree.

                      You’ve come to the right place for that.

                      Best.

                    2. Well if you’re arguing with people who don’t know shit and don’t have their facts straight, it forces you to.

                      Im in awe of how dumb Americans have become.

                      But look at who the president was.

                    3. Anonymous says:February 15, 2021 at 1:38 PM

                      Just kidding hehe.

                      Carry on.

                      ____

                      Idiot alert

                    4. oops Take 2….
                      Anonymous @ 2:06pm. You know how turning your back to a highstrung dog could cause him to come up behind you and bite or nip at your heels? That’s you. Running around this blog biting and nipping. Carry on nipping at heels ya little nipper.

                    5. S. Meyer/Allan/Anonymous, followed by Ben:

                      Anonymous (S. Meyer, Allan) says:February 15, 2021 at 2:33 PM

                      You bet, Anonymous @ 2:06pm. You know how turning your back to a highstrung dog could cause him to come up behind you and bite or nip at your heels? That’s you. Running around this blog biting and nipping. But still…it woud not be nearly as much fun around here without your snark. Carry on nipping at heels ya little nipper.

                      PS….I think Ben the surfer dude should run for Congress and come to Washington. It’s getting rather boring around there with Donald Trump.

                      Ben Marcus says:February 15, 2021 at 2:40 PM

                      Ben the surfer dude has been to Washington DC and there’s no way Ben the surfer dude is leaving Malibu for that place.

                      It’s probably the same reason Tulsi Gabbard bailed out.

                      Why leave Hawaii to go to that s*** show?

                      ********

                      “Why leave Hawaii to go to that s*** show?” -Ben

                      …or Malibu.

                      Indeed.

                      (S. Meyer/Allan gives himself away. He’s a wanker.)

                    6. “S. Meyer/Allan/Anonymous, followed by Ben:”

                      Anonymous the Stupid, you are totally confused.

                  2. Ben you are annoying. This level of annoying is not typical for surfers. Try and “chill” and perhaps share your views with less belligerence.

                    I can surf too. I only wish I had done it more. Not much surfing out here in flyover

                    Sal Sar

                    1. Ben just needs to balance the harsh with more mellow. He should run for Congress purely for the entertainment value…it’s getting boring around here without Trump. Then we could have speeches from the House floor sounding like a cross between Spicoli “All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz, and I’m fine” and Brad Hamilton “I shall serve no fries before their time.” The memes and SNL skits would write themselves. haha.

                    2. I thought that was the point of this website, to be annoying?

                      I just like to annoy the annoyers.

                      Throw their stupidity and illogic back at them.

                      Turnabout is fair play and all that.

                      We’ve had to sit on the coast here listening to the braying of asses for the last four years.

                      The tide has turned – so to speak – and now it’s time to vent a little.

                    3. And PS: Surfers can be some of the most annoying people on earth. Quentin Tarantino doesn’t like surfers. A lot of surfers don’t like surfers.

                      Surfers can be like Republicans – dumb as dirt, and arrogant.

                    4. A lot of people don’t like Quentin Tarantino. In fact, speaking of ‘dumb as dirt and arrogant’…most people don’t like Hollywood actors stinking up the airwaves with their “opinions” about politics. Newsflash no one cares what the cesspool that is Hollywood thinks. Your job is to entertain, not shove your politics in our faces.

                    5. Well everyone argues politics these days and I’ll give that to Trump.

                      1. He made Saturday Night Live great again.

                      2. He made The New Yorker great again.

                      3. I’ve never seen Americans at all levels as engaged as politics as they are now.

                      Everyone has an opinion, and to think Hollywood people are “dumb as dirt” is to indulge yourself in a canard.

                      I live around these people and talk to them often and don’t let them fool you: Pam Anderson, Kid Rock, Lorraine Bracco, Minnie Driver, Darryl Hannah, Jonah Hill, Spike Jonez, Todd Phillips, Chris Carter.

                      These people are all much much smarter than they let on.

                      And Hollywood is only a cesspool when viewed from outside.

                      There are a lot of very smart, decent, hard-working people in Hollywood.

                      Getting movies made is never, ever easier.

                    6. Trump certainly did make a lot of things Great Again. And now, without Trump in the picture, a lot of these corporate and cable news organizations will be struggling.

                      I’m just saying if you are in the business of providing entertainment to the masses its best to keep your personal politics to yourself. Kid Rock is a Trump supporter. There are actually more of them in Hollywood than would ever let on.

                      ..and to think all Republicans are “dumb as dirt” is to indulge yourself in a canard.

                2. Young makes an interesting observation

                  Out of one side of their mouth, the academic left claims that race has no basis in biological reality and that it is merely “socially constructed”

                  and yet out of the other side of their mouth, they wish to advance policies to remediate “racial inequality” which if we take their first proposition seriously, is a goal which could be un-achievable as it does not relate to a verifiable state of reality.

                  it’s clear they are liars. there is a factual objective basis for racial generalizations, to varying degrees depending on the proposition.

                  and it’s also clear that they use those obvious generalizations to achieve the real aim of their policies, which is more power for themselves, at our expense

                  Sal Sar

                3. This will get me in trouble, but whatever: Show me a Latin American, Arab or African American country that isn’t a screwed-up, violent, corrupt, overpopulated, starving war-torn mess.

                  And then go to Norway.

                  Enough said.

                  1. Belize, Costa Rica, Panama, Peru, Chile, Argentina, Uruguay, Paraguay, Morocco, Jordan, Israel, Namibia, Ghana, Botswana, Kenya, Mozambique…

  7. There are 370 comments on the professors rather bland remarks here, 80 from one particular handle. (Haven’t checked the other handles he uses).

    1. Tabby, who would that be? Because I’ve named that puppet master many, many times. And even if you’re conservative the blog appears one dimensional when one obnoxious bore is writing half the comments.

    2. Art Deco x 4 is clearly overinvested in this little blog. He obviously doesn’t have much excitement in his life. Sad.

      1. There you go again, Anonymous the stupid. What did Art Deco do? He stated a number… “There are 370 comments on the professors rather bland remarks here, 80 from one particular handle. (Haven’t checked the other handles he uses)”. Did he say anything that wasn’t true? No, but Anonymous the Stupid will intervene and insult. Your problem is that you don’t understand the rule, Do one to others that you would have them do to you.

        You can dish it out but you have a glass jaw.

    3. Arty:
      “There are 370 comments on the professors rather bland remarks here, 80 from one particular handle. (Haven’t checked the other handles he uses).”
      ***********************
      And I thought February’s great surfing in Malibu or Gainesville or wherever his flight of fancy takes him. I’m sure he’d rather write drivel. I would think with his malaprop proclivity he’d keep us guessing about his brains but he’s all in on the stupid disclosure. My guess is he’s fantasizing about his Caine Mutiny moment here and will soon be spouting nonexistent Biblical verses, reminding us of things he never said and plying us with accomplishments he never achieved. It’s kinda his way to show case all he can’t be.

    4. Steal an election
      Militarize the Capitol
      Persecute Opposition
      Seize civilian arms

      Biden/Harris are running the playbook of every modern dictator and most people are too blind to see it.

      @raheemkassam

      1. “Raheem Kassam is a conservative British political activist, former editor-in-chief of Breitbart News London, and former chief adviser to former UK Independence Party leader Nigel Farage. He has been described as far-right and right-wing by several media publications.” — Wikipedia

  8. Every accusations you have leveled at the Democrats could be said of Hannity, Carlson, Ingraham, Pirro and the rest of your colleagues at Trump TV. But you are contractually prohibited to point the finger at their intellectual dishonesty and tribalism. Why has someone as opinionated as yourself remained silent to this day regarding to the $2.7 Billion defamation lawsuit against your Fox News for championing Trump’s Big Lie? Could it be that you don’t want to implicitly acknowledge your own role in enabling Fox’s complicity?

      1. Yep, she’s been arrested, and we’ll find out whether she’s guilty after she’s tried. Just like Kyle Rittenhouse was arrested for murder, and we’ll find out whether he’s guilty after he’s tried.

    1. Jeffery, Hannity et al are opinion hosts, not politicians supposedly representing a constituency, who have an obviously different opinion than the parrots at CNN, MSNBC, and just about every other cable or network station. The democrats as a party only show their hypocrisy in their arguments. In regard to your notation of the defamation lawsuit against Fox News, if you are referring to the Dominion lawsuit perhaps it should be noted that attorney Marc Elias of Perkins Coie (the law firm that represents democrats and the Clinton campaign) the lawyer for the democrat candidate in the 2020 NY 22 election dispute, stated in court that votes may have been switched by the Dominion Voting machines thus giving the republican candidate the edge. Are you saying it is a Big Lie if a republican supporter says the dominion voting machine switched votes but not if a democrat says it? You can’t have it both ways.

  9. RIOTS DRIVEN BY FALSE ELECTION CLAIMS

    The Trump campaign lost in 60 different courts before a range of judges appointed by both Democrats and Republicans.  In a few cases even Trump-appointed judges ruled against Trump.  Yet Trump supporters claim that 60 court defeats are somehow insignificant.  

    To put these claims in perspective, let us say, for instance, that regulators around the country imposed rules on Facebook that enraged the company.  So Mark Zukerberg hires teams of lawyers to contest said rules.  But Zuckerberg’s lawyers proceed to lose in 60 different courts!  

    Would anyone, Republican or Democrat, think Zuckerberg still has a case in the aftermath of so many defeats?  ..Not likely..!  Most people would look at that string of defeats and think, Zuckerberg was ‘blown out of court’.  

    Nobody would say, “We should create a special commission to examine Zuckerberg’s claims”.  Yet Professor Turley has proposed just such a commission to consider Trump’s claims.  Which is peculiar because, as a distinguished lawyer, Turley clearly knows that 60 court defeats means: ‘The Claims Are Frivolous’.  

    When filing a claim, lawyers must present compelling evidence.  If lawyers fail to reference their claims with compelling evidence, the court has no obligation to grant a proper hearing.  For this reason, a number of courts refused to hear Trump’s claims.  We cannot expect the courts to consider frivolous cases just because a politician keeps insisting the claims are true.  

    Representative Majorie Taylor Greene believes the Rothchild banking family built space-based lasers that started California wildfires.  Should California courts schedule hearings to consider Greene’s claims?  Thousands believe the Sandy Hook and Parkland school shootings were faked.  But if courts considered every such claim, without compelling evidence, courts would have time for nothing else.  Every promoter of crazed conspiracies would get a showcase moment to present insane plots.  

    In other words, the bloody riots at the U.S. Capitol were a refusal to believe that 60 court defeats means: ‘Trump Has No Case”.  It was the responsibility of distinguished lawyers like Professor Turley to correct these false impressions.  Instead Turley parsed his words and punted with a meaningless proposal to create a commission to consider Trump’s false claims.  History will show that Turley was no help in this crisis.    

    1. Turley aided and abetted the Trump/GOP efforts to overturn the election.

      We await his apology for being so wrong, Hehas no excuse because he knows how wrong he was or has no business commenting on anything.

      1. Estovir, why can’t you ever use your name?? Why must you change names 20 times per day?? Obviously you’re not a genuine commenter. You are, and always have been, a sleazy dirty trickster.

        1. 6:03 PM Anonymous, AnonJF is not Estovir. AnonJF is Joe Friday, and he’s not a “sleazy dirty trickster.”

      2. ANNONJF That is pure jabberwokey. Only you and Pelosi’s and Schumer’s opinion matters doesn’t it? There can be no opposite thoughts, beliefs, or opinions allowed by you. The prof nor any Repub (Not RINOs) owe you or anyone else an apology. Your and all the Dems big problem is your Hatered for Trump. The 14th Amendment should be applicable to Obama and Biden and on down for the attempted coup that begin when DT became the Repub candidate in 2015 and until this day. I would wager and allege that if one could see the true findings of the John Durham investigation, it would be proven a coup attempted. (DOJ< FBI< CIA NSA< NI, Brennan, Clapper, Comey, Strozk, Lisa Page, et als) But the DOJ knows it would be The End as there is now no longer a true rule of law in America. But as there is no honesty among theives there is no honesty with most Dems. Now let me apprise you my opinion, as I don't care where you place yours, it can be in your ear, and/or anywhere the sun doesn't shine. That is how I see you guys considering any opposition opinion.

    2. They never lost in any court that heard any evidence regarding the elections. They were dismissed for lack of standing which was plain BS. According to the courts, including the so called US Supreme, no one in the country has standing to contest illegal elections. The would been a good bar exam question. So, the courts are saying that there is NO remedy for contesting illegal elections in this country.

      1. They lost in multiple courts that considered the evidence that was presented.

        An example –
        https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/20422013/bowyer-v-ducey-dismissal-order.pdf
        “the Complaint’s allegations are sorely wanting of relevant or reliable evidence. … These objections to the manner in which Arizona officials administered the election cannot serve to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election in Arizona because they fail to present evidence that supports the underlying fraud claim.”

        Another example –
        https://casetext.com/case/donald-j-trump-for-president-inc-v-boockvar-5
        “One might expect that when seeking such a startling outcome, a plaintiff would come formidably armed with compelling legal arguments and factual proof of rampant corruption, such that this Court would have no option but to regrettably grant the proposed injunctive relief despite the impact it would have on such a large group of citizens. That has not happened. Instead, this Court has been presented with strained legal arguments without merit and speculative accusations, unpled in the operative complaint and unsupported by evidence.”

    3. “When filing a claim, lawyers must present compelling evidence.”

      Somebody’s been watching too much “Law & Order.” He thinks it’s possible to conduct, and prepare for trial, a comprehensive, complex case in 20 minutes (including commercial interruptions). And to do so in a case where it is notoriously difficult to get at the evidence, and where powerful people are playing hide-and-seek with the evidence.

      If you operate in the real world, you know that such cases can take years to investigate and adjudicate.

      1. Lawyers file their case in writing, and there’s no limit to the length or the evidence they can append.

        If you operate in the real world, you know that if you’re the plaintiff and you don’t present evidence, your case is dismissed for lack of evidence.

  10. It is very hypocritical to ask for unity and healing after so much damage has been done by one side (the Trump side). People must face justice and that includes Trump himself. Only after justice (in a court of law) has been done, can we have unity and healing.

    1. I try to respect people, but can barely constrain myself in saying you are an idiot. Your abject hatred and biasness just reeks. If you don’t believe Biden’s SOB calling when he told he Ukrains that to get the $1 and one-hald billion of foreignaid, they Must fire the prosecutor looking in to the Buriisma Co corruption is not bribery, and quid pro quo, and that Obama and Biden did not head up an attempted coup against DT, then you just flushed it.

  11. JOKE BIDEN CALLS FOR UNITY AND CIVILITY.

    “I WILL DESTROY YOU!” vs. “YOU’RE A LYING DOG FACE!”
    ________________________________________________

    Deputy Press Secretary TJ Ducklo resigned after lashing out at journalist Tara Palmeri saying,

    “I will destroy you!”
    _______________

    Reporter: ”I’m 65, I don’t have the word recollection that I used to have, I forget my train of thought from time to time, you’ve got 12 years on me, sir – have you been tested for some degree of cognitive decline?’

    Joke Biden: “You’re a lying dog face!”
    ______________________________

    Which is more unifying and civil, Joke?

  12. “Yes, it’s true we falsified evidence. But we did so to reach a higher truth. An unassailable truth. And a truth grounded in integrity.”–Nancy Pelosi.

  13. And right on cue, here comes the attack on our 2nd amendment rights. 2020 is a very good year to evaluate data on gun violence. With schools and communities on lockdown, where did the gun violence occur? Same place as always…cities and states already with very restrictive gun control laws. So using liberal logic, roll those failures out at the federal level.

    https://m.theepochtimes.com/biden-calls-on-congress-to-restrict-gun-ownership_3696206.html?utm_source=newsnoe&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=breaking-2021-02-14-2

    1. Biden:

      ““This Administration will not wait for the next mass shooting to heed that call. We will take action to end our epidemic of gun violence and make our schools and communities safer. Today, I am calling on Congress to enact commonsense gun law reforms, including requiring background checks on all gun sales, banning assault weapons and high-capacity magazines, and eliminating immunity for gun manufacturers who knowingly put weapons of war on our streets.””

      “The percentage of Americans who favor stricter gun laws is on the rise, though significant partisan divisions persist. A Pew Research Center survey conducted in September found that 60% of Americans say gun laws should be tougher, up from 57% last year and 52% in 2017….”

      https://www.npr.org/2019/10/20/771278167/poll-number-of-americans-who-favor-stricter-gun-laws-continues-to-grow

      1. SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED

        2nd Amendment

        A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
        ______________________________________________________________________________________________________________

        It is anti-American to oppose the rights, freedoms, privileges and immunities of the Constitution and Bill of Rights.

        The amendment process exists to correct a problem.

        There is no problem with the Constitution and Bill of Rights for American-Americans.

        It’s the anomalous hyphenates and parasites who desire the “fundamental transformation,” the complete nullification of the Constitution and Bill of Rights, and of America.

        If you don’t like the 2nd Amendment, the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, if you prefer the Communist Manifesto, “Get up on Old Paint and get the —- where you ain’t!”

        Go live in that utopia, Rubberroomlandia.

        Opponents of the 2nd Amendment are mortal enemies of Americans, America, the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

        American fundamental law was written to stand in perpetuity, as permanently as the 10 Commandments.
        __________________________________________________________________________________

        P.S. Switzerland and Israel have guns everywhere.

      2. Joe,

        here’s a crazy idea. how about you rank your top five polcies for gun control, from what you think should be the most obvious and agreeable to people who oppose it, downwards to the more controversial proposals.

        For decades i have tried to have conversations about this which are rational and do not end in me being called names, and so rarely it has ever happened. but i keep on trying to dialogue anyways

        So what do you think should be the least controversial specific policy to be enacted, which is not presently already law or regulation? followed by 4 others please. i am curious what you believe?

        Sal

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