“Trump Has Been Impeached From Operating The Ice Rink”: De Blasio’s Cancelation of Trump Concession Contracts Raises Questions Of Political Retaliation

Mayor Bill di Blasio has ordered the closure of the two ice rinks in Central Park, the Wollman Park and Lasker Rink. The mayor’s staff clearly wanted to the reason for the closure to be clear and public. Various groups have pushed for the city to cut all ties with the Trump organization and the city moved against the organization last month on the contracts. De Blasio’s spokesperson announced that “Trump has been impeached from operating the ice rink.” That statement might not be welcomed by city lawyers since it suggests that the closures were an exercise of selective bias against a company for political purposes. Despite the unpopularity of Trump in New York, the use of city contracts for raw political retaliation should be unacceptable to most citizens (particularly when the cost is borne not just by the public but more importantly employees who were laid off early).  The spokesperson’s words could now be the focus of litigation over any losses by the Trump Organization.

It is not clear what discretionary language applies to the ice rinks. However, four contracts were canceled and the city is also seeking to terminate the contract for the Trump Golf Links at Ferry Point, a contract worth millions. That contract has 18 more years left to run.

The statement of the spokesperson is at odds with de Blasio’s different claims for the reason of the terminations. He has cited criminal activity at the sites as one possible legal basis for termination but the city will have to show that such activity is specifically prevalent or more pronounced on these properties than those run by other contractors.

On the golf course, de Blasio noted that the contract requires the playing of championship games at the site and the PGA Championship said it will no longer play on Trump golf courses.  The PGA indicated that it felt pressure to terminate the long-standing relationship. PGA CEO Seth Waugh stated “We find ourselves in a political situation not of our making. We’re fiduciaries for our members, for the game, for our mission and for our brand. And how do we best protect that? Our feeling was given the tragic events of Wednesday that we could no longer hold it at Bedminster. The damage could have been irreparable. The only real course of action was to leave.”

The Trump organization called the decision a breach of its agreement. It is not clear how specific the contract is on what championships qualify. However, the myriad of rationales reinforces the message of the spokesperson that this is really about the opposition to Trump.

Putting aside the contractual disputes, people of good faith should be disturbed by the appearance of the city selectively terminating contracts for purely political purposes. It is yet another example of critics abandoning core principles in the blind pursuit of Trump. While our age of rage has become a license for excess and pettiness, this action suggests that the city can harass or sanction contractors solely because of their political associations.  It is an invitation for cronyism and corruption in the handling of city contracts. If the Trump Organization failed to meet a condition of the contract or the required services, there are ample remedies including possible termination. However, de Blasio clearly wanted the public to know that he was taking this action as an anti-Trump statement.  However, that is hardly a promising tact to take into court since it will raise first amendment and other issues beyond the contractual claims.

The result is that, not only will employees lost their jobs early, but the city will be embroiled in litigation over these contracts. These rinks were scheduled to close in a couple months but de Blasio wanted to use them to pander to a public desire for retaliation against Trump and his associates. Once again, there is little thought to the implications of using city contracts for such political retaliation. Yet, the usual voices for good government practices are silent since any objection is likely to be met by accusations of being an apologist or enabler of Trump. De Blasio knows that this makes for good politics.  It just makes for lousy governance.

The move by the PGA and the city does show how the Trump brand itself is being targeted and could pose serious problems for the organization, particularly with a debt of $600 million coming due in the next four years. Trump has historically leveraged his brand name value in securing loans as an asset worth billions.

 

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  1. This is what communists do. They destroy, dox, harrass, burn down, beat and kill anyone who doesn’t tow the party line. But no worries folks, the Democrats say when they’ve killed off all of the conservatives aka Republicans, when the last one of us is dead, that loves America…. the Democrats say the healing process can begin.

  2. In comments below I was challenged to show injuries to officers in Portland.

    https://www.oregonlive.com/news/2020/07/burns-bloody-wounds-broken-bones-injuries-mount-at-portland-protests.html

    That is only one entry out of many spanning months. The same in Seattle. And remember Minneapolis. The mob at the Capital was a trifle by comparison but the leftist narrative is to treat it as much more than it was and wring totalitarian measures out of it like another Reichstag fire.

    I was wondering what would bring the paid trolls back. Apparently defending this ridiculous narrative about the Capital is their current assignment.

    1. No, you weren’t “challenged to show injuries to officers in Portland.” Are you truly such a baby that you cannot even deal honestly with the actual challenge?

      You were challenged to present evidence of your more extreme claim that the injuries to police on the Jan. 6 insurrection in the Capitol — which were described by Police union Chair Gus Papathanasiou as follows: “Between USCP and our colleagues at the Metropolitan Police Department, we have almost 140 officers injured. I have officers who were not issued helmets prior to the attack who have sustained brain injuries. One officer has two cracked ribs and two smashed spinal discs. One officer is going to lose his eye, and another was stabbed with a metal fence stake.” — sounded to you “like “Portland Lite”.”

      So as a start, you’d want to show that many more than 140 officers in Portland were injured.

      Don’t shift the goalposts to add in Seattle and Minneapolis. Act like an adult who can either prove your actual claim or can admit that you can’t.

      “the leftist narrative …”

      Blah, blah, blah. You can’t show what you claimed, so now you just move along to new garbage.

      “paid trolls”

      Are YOU a paid troll, Young? Personally, I doubt that anyone here is paid for what they post. I’m certainly not.

        1. Once again, TiT, you make up claims about what someone did in the past and pretend that what your invention is real. I condemned the riots too. I don’t believe that violence is acceptable except in immediate self-defense and extremely rare offensive situations like WWII.

          As for your article, you, too, seem have trouble with goalposts. Young made a claim about Portland. Your article doesn’t say how many injuries occurred in Portland. But I won’t hold you to producing evidence about it, because it was Young’s claim, not yours.

          1. There are lots of people using ‘Anonymous’ as a handle. You have no record to stand on, such as “I condemned the riots too”– maybe some Anonymous did but you are indistinguishable. You have no record. You are, by your own choice, a nobody who has said nothing in the past.

            But whatever you are, you seem very determined to defend a false narrative about the Democrat Reichstag Fire at the Capital.

            Did you see none of the footage of the DC violence at the Trump inauguration? People attacked, csrs burning, etc and for some reason the perpetrators were released without charges. I guess that doesn’t count.

            1. “There are lots of people using ‘Anonymous’ as a handle.”

              Yep. Tell your pal Allan to stop pretending that there’s only one anonymous person who disagrees with him and ticks him off.

              “You have no record to stand on, such as “I condemned the riots too”– maybe some Anonymous did but you are indistinguishable.”

              TiT’s sweeping claim was “Not one written word from Anonymous about how terrible the riots of the summer were,” so it actually doesn’t matter whether I can show that it was me. I clearly don’t care whether I can be distinguished from others, if I did, I wouldn’t be posting anonymously. If it matters to you, you can ignore me entirely.

              “whatever you are, you seem very determined to defend a false narrative about the Democrat Reichstag Fire at the Capital.”

              You seem very determined to project garbage onto me that doesn’t come from me. I haven’t said anything false. You haven’t presented any evidence of me claiming something false. You seem very determined to rely on what you prefer to believe about me instead of facts.

              1. “Yep. Tell your pal Allan to stop pretending that there’s only one anonymous person who disagrees with him and ticks him off.”

                Anonymous the Stupid gets pis-ed when he is high-lighted. As anonymous, I generally stay away from comments that aren’t insulting and focus on those that are insulting or insultingly Stupid. For those comments I post anonymously to save the reader time hoping he will throw out my post along with the garbage.

                “You seem very determined to project garbage onto me that doesn’t come from me.”

                You are a whiner and a crybaby. You chose to link yourself in the anonymous category. Live with the problem you create. You do this to hide and then complain that other people were acting like Anonymous the Stupid. Most of the times Anonymous the Stupid acts just like his name says.

                Be thankful that Young isn’t as precise as you want or he and others would all be calling you Anonymous the Stupid.

              2. The point which you fail to grasp is that you can not refute TiT’s claim.

                You do not care – fine.

                But Tit’s claim can not be refuted.

                And we do not know what garbage comes from you.

                There are many anonymous postings – they could each be a different person, or nearly all the same
                No one can prove otherwise.

                As such it is unfalsifiable to claim the garbage comes from you.

                You say you do not care – then why are you arguing against claims that your own choices make unfalsifiable ?

            2. “There are lots of people using ‘Anonymous’ as a handle. “

              But there is only one Anonymous the Stupid.

              Just because an anonymous slips into the Anonymous the Stupid category on a very occasional basis, doesn’t mean the vast majority (and more) of the Anonymous the Stupid comments aren’t from the singular individual known as Anonymous the Stupid.

              When that other anonymous slips in and acts like Anonymous the Stupid, it is his willingness to become Anonymous the Stupid that makes him Anonymous the Stupid. That is his problem, no-one else’s. If he chooses to use the anonymous label and makes stupid comments he has only himself to blame for being linked with Anonymous the Stupid.

              The only way to deal with cowardly people that play games where they hit, run and hide is to expose who they are and give them a name. Those that steal government secrets are called spies and we have no problem doing so. If another hides under the anonymous name, too bad. He has alternatives.

              1. There’s only one person — you (Allan / S. Meyer / Mark N. / Anonymous SM / Anonymous / your other socks) — who calls others “Anonymous the Stupid,” and you use that name for more than one person.

                “If he chooses to use the anonymous label and makes stupid comments he has only himself to blame for being linked with Anonymous the Stupid.”

                LMAO. Allan, YOU make stupid comments while posting anonymously. Should we start calling you Anonymous the Stupid when you do that?

                1. Anon @ 1:07 to Allan/S.Meyer:

                  “Should we start calling you Anonymous the Stupid when you do that?”

                  Clearly, Allan/S.Meyer is the one and only “Anonymous the Stupid.”

                  He owns the name; he’s talking about himself.

                  1. Anonymous the Stupid, you can call me what you will. It doesn’t change the facts on the ground that you are Stupid.

                  2. He is not posting as anonymous.

                    If you wish to claim he is stupid – that would require evidence.

                    There is plenty of evidence that many of the anonymous posts are stupid.

                    1. John, thanks for you nice words in your multiple postings.

                      “He is not posting as anonymous.”

                      John, I want to make it clear how my posts are labeled. I think anonymous posters on the blog, for the most part, cause harm to the integrity of the blog and most frequently provide no reliable information. That is mostly caused by the anonymous poster you have on occasion called ATS. I made an attempt to reduce the animosity but ATS lives off of animosity not brains. So it has gotten back to normal, though I still haven’t referred to him recently as Anonymous the Stupid. That will probably resume soon enough because I want it super easy for others to know who and what we are talking to.

                      When the anonymous postings between him and I get so petty I want to let others know that my post is not worthwhile, so though it is obvious who is posting I I use an anonymous label so people can throw out the post without reading. and save time. I think all anonymous postings should be treated in the same fashion.

                      I use my initials SM when I am posting to others in a similar fashion also not to waste anyone’s time. ATS is a special case and likely the least value on this blog.

                    2. I have ZERO problems with anonymous posts.

                      There are important reasons for anonymity.

                      But anonymity comes at a cost.

                      If you post anonymously do not expect me to start with the same presumptions of credibility or integrity I would if you used an identifiable alias, or better still your own name.

                      Integrity, credibility, trust are EARNED – they are not a right. This is a common failure of the left – confusing what is a right with what is not.

                      You are not entitled to be trusted. It is something you earn. You are not entitled to be respected. These must all be earned.

                      Most of us START from a neutral position – and we build up – or DOWN from there.

                      If you post as anonymous – you are ALWAYS at neutral AT BEST.

                      That is just how it is. It is also how it should be.

                      With specific respect to you.

                      I am not you. We have disagreed. I beleive I have demonstrated that you are wrong where we have disagreed.
                      But that is not common – mostly you are right. Even when you are not, your errors are usually small.
                      Further you make your case by argument – even when you are wrong.

                      I would and have taken issue with your tendency to respond to those who offer nothing but insult with insult.
                      I try not to do that. But I too fail at that. And frankly sometimes it is necescary to call an idiot and idiot.

                      Regardless, it is not possible to match the extent of insult and illogic of the left.

                      To address a few of you points:

                      You say that certain annoymous posts – are unreliable – even that is a stretch. They rarely contain ANYTHING but insult and adhominem.
                      They are not untrustworthy, they have no pretense of value.

                      One of the things I find interesting about your squabble with “ATS” is that both you and he presume there is a uniquely identifiable poster ATS. That is probably true – but it is an assumption, and a dangerous one.

                      I try hard – often unsuccessfully, to treat all anonymous posts as standalone – without history. without reputation,

                      Just as I am uninterested in trying to decide if S. Meyer is Allan or who has changed aliases

                      The only posts with less credibility and trust than anonymous posts are those from aliases that have demonstrated historically that they are untrustworthy.

                      I am not especially concerned if posters want to start over under a new alias.
                      It does not take long to establish their credibility of lack.

                      I am highly unlikely to ever shift from posting as jbsay. I have established a reputation under that alias – here, and many other places.
                      I am comfortable with that reputation.
                      I would prefer to post under my real name. but int he real world I have an actual sociopath in the family who is also a stalker and would find some way to harm me. I have zero concerns about left wing nuts trying to “dox” me. I am not “hiding” from the NSA – just a malicious sociopath in the family.

                      But anyone else is free to post as they please – right, left, ….

                      Build a reputation, Don’t.

                      Just do not expect to have earned credibility and trust as anonymous.

                      At the same time – you have earned a great deal of trust posting a S. Meyer. Trust is not the expectation of perfection or agreement.
                      It is a presumption of honesty.

                      One of the disappointments of the last 4 years for me has been the less of respect that many on the left have inflected on themselves.

                      There are a few media figures I used to respect, that i do not now. I used to respect Prof. Tribe – not agree with, but respect.
                      Over the past 4 years he has turned into a demented partisan hack.

                      Conversely people like Greenwald, Rubin, Turley, Derschowitz, The Weinsteins have all come from the left and gained every more of my respect over time.

                      Respect is NOT always agreement. But it is never hypocracy.

                    3. “If you post as anonymous – you are ALWAYS at neutral AT BEST.”

                      Why would I ever post as anonymous with an honorable person? I wouldn’t. My postings ( limited as they were) anonymously were all directed at the one you refer to as ATS. With a character like that it makes no difference who one posts as. When the postings become repetitious with that idiot I now post as anonymous. Why should others waste their time with that despicable person and the pettiest arguments the two of us have? If one doesn’t use an alias, immediately one cannot gauge their credibility. However, what ATS says is dishonest cr-p so I have been known to set the record straight.

                      We are pretty much in agreement on most things and even mostly in agreement where we disagree. Honest disagreement is good. You said something below I won’t put quotes around because I could just have easily said it. The statement is correct from both sides.

                      *I am not you. We have disagreed. I beleive I have demonstrated that you are wrong where we have disagreed.
                      But that is not common – mostly you are right. Even when you are not, your errors are usually small.
                      Further you make your case by argument – even when you are wrong.*

                    4. Allan often posts anonymously, John, perhaps you weren’t aware of that, just like you initially weren’t aware that “S. Meyer” and “Allan” are the same person.

                    5. “Allan often posts anonymously”
                      “weren’t aware that “S. Meyer” and “Allan” are the same person.”

                      I do not know that – nor can you.
                      That is an assumption.

                      just as i can not know that you are the same anonymous as some other anonymous post.

                      You are making guesses.

                      You may even be right some of the time.

                      This is why you can not be trusted with power – the use of force to compel others to act as you wish – aka government.

                      Because you make guesses, and are willing to use force to impliment them.

                      Lets say you have an 80% probability of being right with one of your guesses.

                      That means you are using force without sufficient justification 20% of the time – this of course presumes that when you are right about your guess you are justified.

                      Are we allowed to murder people because 80% of the time those we murder are serial killers, but 20% of the time they are soccer moms ?

                    6. Why is someone posting anonymously so fixated on the identity of others ?

                      By posting anonymously you are accepting that people have the right to hide who they are.

                      This is the kind of stupid hypocracy that debases the left.

                      This is the stuff that justifies ATS appelations.

                2. I have used the appelation ATS on occasion.

                  I try to use it rarely – and insults are rarely productive.

                  But sometimes it is necescary.

                  1. I have used the appelation [sic] John Say The Stupid on occasion.

                    I try to use it rarely – and insults are rarely productive.

                    But sometimes it is necescary. [sic]

                    (Maybe he really meant “necescary.”)

                    1. When you do so – you bet your reputation and integrity against mine.

                      Not something I am worried about.

                      Do you have an example of some claim I have made that is stupid ?

                      Just as I do not care about your grammatical and spelling critiques.
                      Try working on critical thinking.

          2. I think 113 instances of blindings many of which lasted for days is significant.

            Do you honestly want to compare portland ?

            They were using lasers, and molotov coctails, and bricks and rocks and pellet guns and hammers, and frozen water bottles and throwing garbage and lighting it. PEOPLE – often police.

            This was more than breaking glass.

            You have no standards but for double standards.

      1. Some Anonymous to me below: “I doubt you’ll bother to quote anyone about how many police were injured in Portland.”

        ***
        See my post at 9:26

        1. LMAO. You posted it at 9:26, and I already replied to it at 9:52, but apparently you couldn’t bother to read that, or you’d know that you still haven’t quoted anyone about how many police were injured in Portland.

      2. Do really need a list of the actual violence at portland ?

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6MNhGcSlZA

        Notice all the democrats talking about the rights of the protestors ?

        And blaming it on Trump ?

        Why isn’t Pelosi responsible for what happened at the capital ?

        Why isn’t ever democrat who turned a blind eye to a lawless election ?

  3. ” [UPDATE: The ice rinks will now stay open until the end of the season, City Hall announced late Sunday. Scroll down for updates.]”

    https://gothamist.com/arts-entertainment/central-park-ice-rinks-close-early-after-city-cuts-contracts-trump-organization

    “Central Park’s ice rinks will reportedly close at the end of Sunday after Mayor Bill de Blasio moved to end the city’s contracts with the Trump Organization in the weeks after the riot and insurrection at the Capitol on January 6th.

    ” [UPDATE: The ice rinks will now stay open until the end of the season, City Hall announced late Sunday. Scroll down for updates.]”

    1. The drugs may have cleared de Blasio’s mind but his change of mind might be too late. I hope not for the sake of those that use the facilities. However, once preparations are made they are difficult to turn around.

    2. So now New York City has decided to allow Trump enterprises to continue to operate the ice rink until the end of the season. Here’s a behind the scenes description of what happened. Trumps lawyers met with De Blasio’s lawyers and quietly convinced them that their decision would be a very costly one if they persisted. The decision on the golf course management will also be quietly re-examined by the PGA. Just another stupid move by De Blasio. Is anyone surprised. Another Rossana Rossana Dana “nevermind” virtue signaling moment.

  4. The good news is that the statists are feeling so “empowered” that they don’t realize that they are pissing in their soup.

    “Congress Escalates Pressure on Tech Giants to Censor More, Threatening the First Amendment

    In their zeal for control over online speech, House Democrats are getting closer and closer to the constitutional line, if they have not already crossed it.”

    https://greenwald.substack.com/p/congress-escalates-pressure-on-tech?token=eyJ1c2VyX2lkIjoyNTc5MDY5LCJwb3N0X2lkIjozMjcyNTA3MSwiXyI6Ilk5d1lRIiwiaWF0IjoxNjEzOTIwNDU3LCJleHAiOjE2MTM5MjQwNTcsImlzcyI6InB1Yi0xMjg2NjIiLCJzdWIiOiJwb3N0LXJlYWN0aW9uIn0.AhvrufBBJis7aR4XuznqQW86xWK-8-GQ2LZK_lthCII

    “Little effort is required to see that Democrats, now in control of the Congress and the White House, are engaged in a scheme of speech control virtually indistinguishable from those long held unconstitutional by decades of First Amendment jurisprudence. That Democrats are seeking to use their control of state power to coerce and intimidate private tech companies to censor — and indeed have already succeeded in doing so — is hardly subject to reasonable debate. They are saying explicitly that this is what they are doing.”

    1. And this means what exactly?! Eh? NOTHING! It is meaningless. Does anyone think that the president wants to be involved in the ice rink in NYC any longer? After way they treated him?!? LOLOL! He probably left it behind long ago, and they are printing this meaningless drivel to please themselves.

      1. Most of this is self punishing acts for left.

        Trump took over the Rinks when everyone else had failed.

        If they throw Trump out – what has changed that will cause NYC to succeed today instead of repeating past failure ?

    2. Agree! Of course this is retaliation – which has been going on for the last five years. Closing the ice rink is akin to de Blasio using NYC taxpayers/employees to paint BLM hugely on the street in front of Trump Towers. Democrats operate with dark minds and black hearts. When cities/states keep re-electing this evil – they get what they asked for. Cuomo is in deep pucky at the time – but should have been years ago.

    3. What an incredibly enlightened statement…it is exactly spot on…the Demmunists have taken control of what Americans can see…hear or think via dictating terms to the willing media/tech companies…Recently telling youtube to take down Trumps last speech. We no longer have freedoms in our country… it’s quite insidious and most people can’t believe it’s happening…the long battle to take over America from within is seeing success.

      The efforts to change the election process in this country means that there will no longer be honest elections, and the Demmunists have taken control for ever…we will not have a way to protect our rights or freedoms they will hold power because they will make sure they win every election just like they did the 2020…ALL THREE BRANCHES WILL WORK IN CONCERT TO PASS WHATEVER LEGISLATION THEY DESIRE UNHINDERED BY THE PESKY AMERICAN PEOPLE AND THEIR STUPID DESIRE FOR CONSTITUTIONAL FREEDOMS.

      When the masses are enlightened to these facts, which is coming sooner than later, all hell will break loose the likes of which this country has never seen and the freedom loving AMERICAN people, Black, White, Yellow or BLUE will rise up and stop this communist madness…. When that happens these creeps in power, attempting to hinder our constitution and rule of law will pay the ultimate price. That is the best case scenario.

      Consider that the BIDEN debacle is working in concert with China and taking “them” on is also taking CHINA on, so it will be a world war….China supports the democrats because they do China’s bidding inside our borders….Democrats aspire to have the power over AMERICA that XI has over CHINA…communism….government first…people are but numbers, expendable worthy of nothing….Human rights don’t exist in communism. Biden thinks that’s OK if you listened to his statement about human rights in China….

      AMERICA is at WAR….most people don’t realize it YET, but China did not like what TRUMP was doing, it upset their goal to take over the world. Therefore they worked with BIDEN/Demmunists to steal the election..this VIRUS was the BOMB they used instead of the conventional weapons, they just used a man made Virus & pandemic…that has done more damage than any bomb in HISTORY. Make no mistake about it ….WE ARE AT WAR WITH CHINA AND OUR OWN GOVERNMENT… DJT KNEW IT A CHOSE TO FIGHT IT….HE WAS WINNING…THEN BIDEN STEPPED IN TO CONCEDE THE WAR…HE CAPITULATED AND WILL COOPERATE WITH CHINA..HIS WAY WAS TO GIVE IN, GIVE UP…CAPITULATE…THERE IS NO FIGHT IN BIDEN…HE IS A COWARD…HIS WAY IS TO SURRENDER TO CHINA AND FIGHT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT THIS ADMINISTRATION IS DOING… EXPECT TO SEE CHINESE TROOPS GUARDING Biden & the WH…WOULDN’T THAT BE A SIGHT….

      1. Hard to get past “the Demmunists” and all of your shouting, Kitty.

        Are these folks friends of yours?

        “Judge blocks release of Tennessee man seen with zip ties at Capitol riot”

        (His sweet mother /sarc is being held, as well.)

        https://www.aol.com/news/judge-blocks-release-tennessee-man-174157204.html

        ‘Lamberth cited interviews Munchel and Eisenhart both gave to the Times of London, when they compared Jan. 6 to the American Revolution of 1776, as proof they’re allegedly prone [to] violence to achieve political objectives.

        ‘”By word and deed, Munchel has supported the violent overthrow of the United States government. He poses a clear danger to the republic,” Lamberth wrote. “By word and deed, Eisenhart has supported the violent overthrow of the United States government. As a self-avowed, would-be martyr, she poses a clear danger to our republic.”‘

        1. OOPS! This is inconvenient:
          The fire extinguisher tale was far from the only false or dubious claim that the media caused to circulate about the events that day. In some cases, they continue to circulate them.

          In the days after the protest, numerous viral tweets pointed to a photograph of Eric Munchel with zip-ties. The photo was used continually to suggest that he took those zip-ties into the Capitol because of a premeditated plot to detain lawmakers and hold them hostage. Politico described Munchel as “the man who allegedly entered the Senate chamber during the Capitol riot while carrying a taser and zip-tie handcuffs.”

          The Washington Post used the images to refer to “chatters in far-right forums explicitly discussing how to storm the building, handcuff lawmakers with zip ties.” That the zip-tie photo of Munchel made the Capitol riot far more than a mere riot carried out by a band of disorganized misfits, but rather a nefarious and well-coordinated plot to kidnap members of Congress, became almost as widespread as the fire extinguisher story. Yet again, it was The New York Times that led the way in consecrating maximalist claims. “FBI Arrests Man Who Carried Zip Ties Into Capitol,” blared the paper’s headline on January 10, featuring the now-iconic photo of Munchel at the top.

          But on January 21, the “zip-tie man’s” own prosecutors admitted none of that was true. He did not take zip-ties with him from home or carry them into the Capitol. Instead, he found them on a table, and took them to prevent their use by the police:

          Eric Munchel, a pro-Trump rioter who stormed the Capitol building while holding plastic handcuffs, took the restraints from a table inside the Capitol building, prosecutors said in a court filing Wednesday.

          Munchel, who broke into the building with his mom, was labeled “zip-tie guy” after he was photographed barreling down the Senate chamber holding the restraints. His appearance raised questions about whether the insurrectionists who sought to stop Congress from counting Electoral College votes on January 6 also intended to take lawmakers hostage.

          But according to the new filing, Munchel and his mother took the handcuffs from within the Capitol building – apparently to ensure the Capitol Police couldn’t use them on the insurrectionists – rather than bring them in when they initially breached the building.
          https://greenwald.substack.com/p/the-false-and-exaggerated-claims

          1. Yes, I’d already seen Glenn’s account. Apparently he did have a taser. Why?

            Hopefully, it will get properly sorted out in court.

            1. Yes, I’d already seen Glenn’s account.

              Yet you led with the zip tie lie and not the taser. 🤔 That is not what someone does that is interested in reality. It is what someone does to spin a fairy tale.

              Not only are you a deceiver, you’re not very bright. You should know by now that you will get fact-checked on this blog.

              Hopefully, it will get properly sorted out in court.

              Not the farce we saw in Congress. But a real investigation, with discovery, evidence, witnesses and a real trial.

              1. So he had a taser. Purportedly some had guns too.

                Both are legal.

                No protestor used a gun.
                No protestor used a taser.
                No protestor used a weapon.

                The only murder committed was by the capital police.

                The left expects the police officer who held George Floyd down to go to jail.
                Floyd a down on his luck con, who was OD’ing on fentanyl and had just passed a counterfeit 20 must get justice – blood.

                What of Alishi ? She was shot in cold blood by a police officer.

          2. Just to be clear, two different men, Eric Munchel and Larry Brock, were photographed carrying flex-cuffs inside the Capitol.

            “Eric Munchel, a pro-Trump rioter who stormed the Capitol building while holding plastic handcuffs, took the restraints from a table inside the Capitol building, prosecutors said in a court filing Wednesday.”

            That court filing — https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.tnmd.85025/gov.uscourts.tnmd.85025.8.0.pdf — says that when Munchel took them, he said “‘Zipties. I need to get me some of them motherf***ers,’ and grabs several white plastic handcuffs from on top of a cabinet (but leaves many others).” That contradicts Greenwald’s claim that he “took them to prevent their use by the police.” If he were doing the latter, he wouldn’t have left any, and he wouldn’t have said he needed them. It also contradicts Greenwald’s claim that Munchel “just found them on a table by happenstance and, according to his own prosecutors, grabbed them with benign intent” (Greenwald’s italics, my bold), since the prosecutors didn’t say his intent was benign.

            If Greenwald weren’t so lazy, he’d have read the actual court filing instead of relying on a quote from a new story. It’s especially ironic given that he’s criticizing the unreliability of some of the news reporting about it. Apparently Greenwald has no problem with errors in reporting as long as it bolsters the argument he wants to make.

            Greenwald seems unfamiliar with other relevant evidence. For example, he disputes that any of the insurrectionists were armed. He should read the charging documents, as several people have been charged with bringing dangerous weapons into the Capitol.

            1. Glenn does miss some things… Again, thanks for the link, etc.

              Glenn had written Edward Snowden off as a nutcase, until Laura Poitras convinced him… The rest is history but, without LP’s involvement, who knows.

              1. The snowden story was going to break no matter what.

                Greenwald did not think Snowden was a nutcase.

                Snowden did not even hint to Greenwald what he had, merely demanding that Greenwald secure his communications before he would provide him a clue.

                Given what Snowden knew – that is comopletely understandable.
                But Greenwald did not know that and had no way of knowing, and had no reason to trust snowden.

                You still are clueless about the importance of trust.

            2. “That contradicts Greenwald’s claim that he “took them to prevent their use by the police.”

              The prosecutor said the same as Greenwald.

              It’s not a “siege” when they are allowed into the building unencumbered through multiple entrances. Which is why Pelosi is now trying to make the Police Chief the fall guy to cover for the fact that her and McConnell turned down the offer of having National Guard troops there.

              Pelosi has completely lost her sh*t. They must have something really bad on her.

              1. “The prosecutor said the same as Greenwald.”

                I quoted the government’s memorandum in favor of pre-trial detention, and I linked to it. Go ahead: quote what the prosecutor said that you’re referring to. Let’s see if you can back up your claim.

                “It’s not a “siege” when they are allowed into the building unencumbered through multiple entrances.”

                Some entered freely, others broke windows and climbed through them or rammed police. Here’s a video of the former. One of the men who breaks a window is Proud Boy named Dominic “Spaz” Pezzola. He has been charged with “Conspiracy; Assaulting, Resisting, or Impeding Certain Officers; Civil Disorder; Government Property or Contracts; Obstruction of an Official Proceeding; Robbery of Personal Property of the United States; Restricted Building or Grounds; Aiding and Abetting” (https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/capitol-breach-cases):

                1. “I quoted the government’s memorandum”

                  Yes, you did, and we listened to all fo those of you on the left telling us that brief’s and affadavits are not evidence.
                  So why are we supposed to accept this ?
                  It is not like the government has not lied to us – constantly.
                  It is not like the FBI and DOJ have not lied to us – constantly.
                  It is not like they have not hidden the truth from us – constnatly.
                  It is not like the DOJ and FBI are not chock full of politically biased leftists ready to forge evidence and lookingf for “insurance policies”.

                  And it is not like the quote you cite – even if accurate is meaningful without YOUR Spin.

                  Discussing anything with you is tedious.

                  You have no standards but for double standards

              2. Here’s another video of a large number of protesters trying to push past police who were blocking them, injuring one of them (Officer Hodges), definitely not an example of “unencumbered” entrance. Can you have an honest discussion that admits this evidence?

                DC Police Department: “You’ve seen images of Ofc Hodges crushed in the doorway during the insurrection at the US Capitol. Now we need your help finding the suspect who used a police shield to pin him against the door jam. Have info? Call the FBI’s Tipline …”

                Hodges later said “If it wasn’t my job, I would have done that for free. … It was absolutely my pleasure to crush a white nationalist insurrection… we’ll do it as many times as it takes.”
                https://twitter.com/carlquintanilla/status/1350423093567754240

                1. More video – here is Young Turks giving fawning praise to protestors who disrupted the KAvanaugh hearings.

                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VymtXTPrPUk

                  Why wasn’t the capital locked for the Kavanaugh hearings ?

                  Why were protestors allowed to disrupt the actual hearings and accost senators in their offices ?

                  These are things that that the protestors on the 6th did not get a chance to do.
                  They were locked out of not merely A public building, but the most important and most public building in our nation.

              3. The entire left has been batschiff crazy for a long time.
                More recently they have drug most of the democratic party with them.

            3. CTHD: “[Greenwald] should read the charging documents, as several people have been charged with bringing dangerous weapons into the Capitol.”

              ***

              Maybe, but what are they calling “dangerous weapons”? That is vague. Awhile back Wray was smugly calling a pipe filled with sulfur a pipe bomb. No, it isn’t. It would never go off. On another occasion a local department displayed a table full of “dangerous” items they had seized. It was pocket rubbish for the most part that endangered only their reputations and credibility. The feds simply are no longer believable. Don’t Trust And Do Verify.

              There were remarkably few injuries for an ‘insurrection’ by people carrying dangerous weapons.

              This looks like a Reichstag Fire without the Fire but all of the propaganda.

              But Portland! Different altogether, actual fire, destruction and injuries, but bygones so far as the media and government are concerned.

              B.S.

              1. “what are they calling “dangerous weapons”?”

                If you want to know, read the documents. If you just want to whine, then don’t.

                “There were remarkably few injuries for an ‘insurrection’ by people carrying dangerous weapons.”

                Police union Chair Gus Papathanasiou: “Between USCP and our colleagues at the Metropolitan Police Department, we have almost 140 officers injured. I have officers who were not issued helmets prior to the attack who have sustained brain injuries. One officer has two cracked ribs and two smashed spinal discs. One officer is going to lose his eye, and another was stabbed with a metal fence stake.”

                    1. LMAO, just as predicted, you can’t back up your claim “Sounds like “Portland Lite”.” This time, instead of moving along to a new empty claim you return to a question you asked 2 hours ago that you’re too lazy to read the answer to.

                    2. What claim can’t he back up ?

                      So far we have two police officers who committed suicide, and one who died mysteriously AFTER leaving the capital uninjured.

                      No one was hit on the head with a fire extinguisher.
                      No police were shot.
                      None were blinded.
                      No rocks were thrown at police.
                      No molotov cocktails.

                      In fact nothing was burned.

                      Jan. 6th was tame compared to “any night in portland”.

                  1. So instead of admitting that “almost 140” isn’t “remarkably few,” you simply move along to your next empty claim. I doubt you’ll bother to quote anyone about how many police were injured in Portland.

                    1. We know of only a few that were actually serious.

                      Law enforcement was blinded repeatedly at portland – and hit with hammers and rocks.

                1. You have been told to read the thousands of affadavits regarding fraud during the 2020 election.

                  Have you read those ?

                  Regardless, a prosecutors memo is not even an affadavit. the consequences for error are much lower.

                  Look what happened to Klinesmith – and that was a deliberate falsification fo evidence provided tot he courts under oath.
                  And not even a slap on the wrist.

                  And you expect anyone to beleive the DOJ ?

              2. +10

                The only leftwing protestor shot all summer – was an active shooter, killed by the national guard while firing at the police.

                The right has a single protest and a protestor gets murder by the police.

                1. To be accurate John, Kyle Rittenhouse shot and killed two protesters and wounded another. Video however shows that Rittenhouse was acting in self-defense. It will be interesting to see if he gets a fair trial. This case and the McCloskey’s in St. Louis are very important to the future security of our rights.

                  1. Olly, you are correct.

                    I would further note there was a “protestor” shot in TX, AFTER he used an ar-15 to fire into a car.

                    There was also a “protestor” killed in Portland after killing a counter protestor.

                    There are probably other instances involving self defense, defense of property or defense of others.

                    All that said – this is a blog post, not a legal brief.

                    I try to keep my posts accurate. But there is a level of precision that is not necescary in a blog comment, or tweet.

                    All statements that are generalizations with rare exceptions, or imperfect precision, or even misstatements or exagerations are NOT lies.

                    We appear to share many values.

                    The only appropirate use of pedantic criticisms of less than perfect precision, are those directed at hypocrits who demand that of others.
                    Today that would primarly be the left..

            4. Given a choice between a DOJ memorandum and Glenn Greenwald – Greenwald is actually trustworthy.

              Need you be reminded of the mess of political prosecutions we have had from the DOJ and FBI during Obama ?

              Worse you nutjobs managed to drag an absolutely unfounded investigation – that DOJ and FBI (and CIA) knew was Full of Schiff fromt eh start through another 2 years – and many of you STILL are pretending that was not a “vast left wing criminal conspiracy”

              When the government goes lawless, we are all in deep schiff.

            5. Greenwald is 1000 times the journalist that WaPo or the NYT have to offer.

              He is neither lazy nor careless.

              And unlikely you he is extremely familiar with the malfeasance that our government will engage in to sell a narative.

              Nor is Greenwald some “alex jones right wing conservative” – he is on the left – pretty far left.

              He just has not turned his brain off.

              Just to be clear – it is not lazy, careless or even error to disbelive the DOJ.

              Greenwald’s reporting on Numerous issues has exposed lots of government lying over the past 20 years.

            6. You have an allegation – not a fact, from a government brief, worse one that does not contradict Greenwald’s story and you are ranting,
              Because you expect everyone to interpret Munchel’s alleged words in the way you wish.
              I would further note that the “story” sold by the press on this – like so many stories sold by the press over the past several years has fallen apart.

              Even YOUR particular spin on Munchell leave Greenwald far more right than NYT and Wapo and YOU.

              There is to this moment no evidence that anyone went to the capital on the 6th with the intention of taking hostages or doing anything more than protesting loudly – exactly like the Kavanaugh protestors 2 years ago.

              I would suggest that getting to the actual truth – no matter how inconvenient it is for you. No matter how much it disrupts your narative is critically important.

              One excellent reason is that if you, democrats, and the media lie about what these protestors actually did,
              Next time they have no reason to NOT do what you are accusing them of.

              You are very lucky that the right is not reacting to the shooting of Alishi the way the left responded to George Floyd’s drug overdose.

              Accept the truth – if you do not, next time your lie will be the truth

              You use Committed to Honest Discussion as your monicker, are completely cluseless as to the consequences of dishonesty – YOUR dishonesty, that of the left, that of democrats, that of the media. that of the FBI, that of the DOJ.

          3. The difference between the 2018 Kavanaugh protest at the capital and Supreme court s:

            1). Schumer danced far closer to incitement to violence than Trump did.
            2). The capital was not locked so protestors were free to roam the halls and threaten senators.
            3). The protestors at the supreme court were unable to break the doors down.

            Both were efforts by protestors to get their way politically through rowdy protests.

            But once again only the right is expected to conform to any rules.

            In my view were are not there yet, But we are close to the point at which the worst fears of democrats regarding Jan. 6, 2021, are justifiable.

            The legitimacy and trust of the current government is incredibly low.
            The courts in some cases have their heads in the sand – in others they are complicit.

            It still remains to be seen if the 2020 election was sufficiently fraudulent to alter the outcome – I strongly suspect that is likely.
            but everything possible is being done to preclude finding out.

            It is without question that the 2020 election was lawless.
            That MUST be fixed. If it is not, the inevitable result will be violence.

            There is a reason that the Biden admin is ramping up the persecution of groups on the right.

            It is not because of what did happen at the capital – but what they are afraid nearly happened.

            If Protestors brought guns – they did not use them.

            There is no evidence that protestors intended anything beyond disrupting congress if they did not get a vote to Audit the election.

            But the next time – they could come with guns.
            The next time – they could come with zip ties.

            The next time – they could occupy the capital.
            The next time – they could shutdown the government.

            There is a reason the democrats are giving the national guard ideological purity tests.

            East Germany fell when millions took to the streets to protest and the police and military chose to stand down.

        2. You are allowed to supoort the violent overthrow of the government.

          You are just not free to advocate for violence at this moment,

          Beyond that I would note that I would suggest reading the declaration of indepencence.
          It is about as clear a statement as one can possibly have that the violent overthrow of government is sometimes necescary.

          And in fact we have seen governments overthrown – sometimes violently in our lifetimes.

          The governments of Japan and Germany were violently overthrown during WWII.

          East germany and the former USSR collapsed – mostly non-violently.

          Regimes in Africa were overthrown violently.

          Antifa is dedicated the the violent overthrow of all governments. And certainly engaged in violence all summer.

          As the left has chosen to go lawless and turn the US into a banana republic – you should expect increasing violence.

          Regardless, when govenrment no longer has the consent of the governed – that government is no longer legitimate.
          Only 40% of the country Trusts government.

  5. Oh my! Blood is in the water around the Bully Killer, Cuomo, and the sharks, big and little, are moving in for a bite of Italian salami. Maybe they are remembering he is an old, WHITE MALE. That can’t be good for him.

    Probably too late for him to identify as a black female and claim he, too, is a victim. After apologizing for killing Grandma, of course.

    He can offer just desserts for the sharks. Maybe that disgusting Fredo person can be swept into it as well.

    https://www.newsweek.com/new-york-democrats-accuse-cuomo-threats-intimidating-phone-calls-gangster-stuff-1570772

  6. Jonathan: “Nobody loves me, everybody hates me, guess I’ll eat some worms…” Poor Donnie. Now that he no longer has the protection of the presidency New York is piling on, canceling his ice rink contracts and seeking to end the contract for Trump’s golf courses. I’ve always said you don’t want a New Yorker mad at you. What’s next? Declaring the Trump Tower a public nuisance? Everyone wants Trump out of town. In Palm Beach Trump’s Mar-a-Lago neighbors don’t want him either. But you are Johnny on the spot in Trump’s defense. You say New York’s vendetta against Trump “is an invitation for cronyism and corruption in the handling of city contracts”. Say what? After four years of massive “cronyism and corruption” in the Trump administration, which you ignored, how can you make such a claim against New York with a straight face? Case in point: Erik Prince, the former head of Blackwater and brother of Trump’s education secretary Betsy DeVos. Prince was a big Trump financial supporter and mercenary who will sell arms to any would be dictator. The NY Times just obtained a copy of a confidential UN report that details how Prince violated a UN arms embargo against Libya in 2019 by selling weapons to renegade militia commander. Khalifa Hifter, who was attempting to overthrow the internationally recognized government in Libya. Prince apparently used his ties with Steve Bannon and Roger Stone to promote his illegal Libya venture. The detailed UN report showed Prince’s scheme used code names, cover stories , offshore accounts and secret weapons transfers. Four days after Hifter started his campaign to capture Tripoli Trump publicly endorsed Hifter, reversing American policy and supported Hifter’s assault on Tripoli. Prince’s wet dream came true. Just proves that it helps to have friends in high places–including the President of the United States. But now that Prince no long has Trump’s back he could face sever UN sanctions. Who will Erik turn to now for protection?. When asked for comment Trump allegedly said: “I don’t know an Erik Prince”.

    What New York is doing to Trump pales in comparison to the “cronyism and corruption” under the Trumpster who beats New York in spades. Trump was the most corrupt president in American history and that’s saying a lot. There will be more to come in Trump’s fall from grace. Stay tuned!

    1. Donald Trump then offered mayor Ed Koch to rebuild Wollman Rink at his expense within six months, in return for the leases to operate the rink and an adjacent restaurant to recoup his costs. The final agreement was that the city would reimburse Trump for the costs up to the agreed limit and that he would donate the profits of rink and restaurant to charity and public works…Wikipedia

      1. An audit indicated that Trump’s company wasn’t keeping accurate records –
        https://comptroller.nyc.gov/reports/audit-report-on-the-compliance-of-wollman-rink-operations-llc-with-its-license-agreement-and-payment-of-license-fees-due/
        “[Wollman Rink Operations] does not have sufficient controls to ensure that all receipts are being recorded on its books and records and reported to the City. We found certain instances of unrecorded income and problems within WRO’s accounting records. Specifically, WRO does not maintain the daily sales and receipt records as required by the agreement and does not maintain sufficient records to support revenue derived from its ice-rental and ice-hockey activities. WRO also made some errors on the revenue reports it submitted to Parks. WRO underreported revenue …”

        1. Anonymous the Stupid, since you don’t know any better I will tell you that the same can be said about virtually every business with cash receipts. You are too Stupid to be on a list of this nature, but I appreciate your failed attempts. LOL

            1. Typical leftist Democrat who wishes to tell everyone one else what to do. He doesn’t want people doing what he has done from the start. He has a glass jaw, is a pig and an abusive disrupter. Do you know why? Because he is Anonymous the Stupid.

                1. Anonymous the Stupid you can’t even think for yourself. Do you know why? Because you are Stupid and prove it every time you respond. But thanks for flattering me.

        2. And why would you trust an audit by the City ?

          Trump’s operations are properly audited by independent accountants all the time.
          Try trusting people without an axe to grind.

          1. John, what the City does is to use any vagueness in the law along with any conflicts of law to charge innocent people with crimes they did not commit. That type of behavior is also seen where the laws are old and may not have been enforced for a century and should have been removed from the books. The City looks at a man as guilty and makes him prove innocence the exact opposite of our basic legal system. The same goes for the state.

            I will provide an example pertinent to a lot of NY residents that have left years ago and are leaving today. If they have money, despite the fact they have been residents in other states, the individual is considered guilty of tax evasion. The State doesn’t prove they are residents of NY rather demands that the individual prove they are residents elsewhere. The law is they are residents if living in NY for 180 days plus. Despite residence in another state where taxes are paid, homes are owned, newspapers delivered, children are raised,, religious organizations and clubs are joined, voting is done, etc. NY will consider them guilty and wait for the individual to prove himself innocent.

            Of course, that sounds crazy and one could rightfully ask how they get away with that? It’s simple. NY has teams of lawyers to sue these individuals and NY has the money to support such a system. The individual can be on the hook for years and have to pay attorneys huge sums of money as the suit progresses. NY looks for a settlement so that an individual pays a large settlement that would otherwise be paid to lawyers and paid in the many types of pain NY inflicts.

            Though I have a home in NYC I never stayed for longer than a few days or a week or two, but to prevent problems I always know there is a log of my entries and exits from NY at my residence there. Other friends are not that fortunate and keep rigorous records of their entrances and exits from the city even though their actual residence was in an adjoining state, and their NY residence was not their official residence.

            Anonymous the Stupid is a superficial jerk that never looks into anything that superficially appears to suit his purposes. Ignorance prevails in the world of Anonymous the Stupid.

            1. Get government out of the economy as much as possible – they FAIL constantly, and they are abuse power.

              If you wonder why government contracts cost so much – one reason is that government as a buyer (or sellor) is NOT the same as a normal buyer or sellor. They will use not only their power as a participant in free exchange, but they will leverage their power as a government actor.

              The net result is any private party engaging government must increase its price to compensate for the possibility that government will abuse its power.

              1. The net result is any private party engaging government must increase its price to compensate for the possibility that government will abuse its power.

                My ex father-in-law had a ship repair company in San Diego. They predominately contracted with the government as a general contractor for the repair and overhaul of US Navy ships. My ex brother-in-law negotiated those contracts. I went through 4 overhauls on 4 different ships while on active duty. I can assure you the company was not concerned in the least about government abuse of power. If they worried about anything, it’s that the government would become competent in their requests for bids. Contracts were bid on the specs. But the profit was not in the seen but the unseen. The contractor profits off the modifications to the contract and there are plenty. For instance, the government wanted to upgrade our sonar suite. They also were putting in the Vertical Launch System. Two different systems, two different contractors. Bulkheads would need to be cut out, cabling cutout, decks cutout and so on, for each contract. The sonar guys would install cabling and the VLS guys would cutout cabling. Oops. We need a modification $$$. Someone forgot to put in the specs the need to weld in new decking and bulkheads. Need a mod. $$$ Put in the decking for the VLS but the sonar guys weren’t finished cabling. Need a mod. $$$ and on and on. The waste, fraud and abuse I witnessed throughout my career would astound you. Draw a line between Guam to Hawaii and do a search of the ocean floor. That’s a graveyard for excess inventory ships were ordered to dump on their way back from deployment.

                1. What you describe is common – but it is not absolute.

                  I have dealt with govenrment bidding on public school projects for decades.

                  Generally the overall costs is substantially higher for the same project done for the governmnent than for a private entity.

                  It is also common that contractors make their profits on change orders.

                  But the best contractors I have dealt with did NOT. They profited by delivering a quality project on time or ahead of schedule with minimal change orders.

                  There are also differences between public schools and defense work.
                  Generally a schools is well defined when it goes out to bid and changes generally represent mismanagement.
                  While defense projects are often bid with parts of the contract unknown. That should be avoided to the extent possible – but it is not always possible.

                  Regardless the fact is that massive amounts of data support the conclusion that any good or service that results from govenrment costs between 20% of 400% more than privately, with the norm much closer to 400% than 20%.

                  #4 ranked IDEAS RESPEC ranked economist robert barro maintains a data base on govenrment spending through out the world and has find that the norm is that each dollar that govnerment spends returns about $0.25-$0.35 of oprivate economy equivalent value.

                  There are many many factors that contribute to this – risk is JUST ONE, but it is a real one.

              2. John, all true. I have had plenty of experience with government and the effects of administrative law along with how legislators can act in nefarious ways that when looked at closely can be seen to be totally ignorant.

                1. I would note that I said ONE REASON was the risk of doing business with govenrment.

                  There are MANY reasons that government is inefficient.

                  Only a few of those reasons are resolvable.

            1. Anonymous the Stupid, you haven’t provided any tangible evidence to contradict. That is the sign that you know nothing.

              1. Allan the Abusive, thank you for again demonstrating that because you only respond by email and never look at the entire thread of comments, you don’t know what was said earlier in the exchange and so you don’t tell the truth about what was said earlier in the exchange.

                1. ” because you only respond by email and never look at the entire thread of comments, you don’t know what was said earlier”

                  Anonymous the Stupid, thanks for proving you are Stupid. I can look at both emails and the web frequently quoting from points earlier in the threat and not on the email. Do you know why you jump to such Stupid conclusions? Because you are Anonymous the Stupid.

                  1. Then you were knowingly lying when you said “you haven’t provided any tangible evidence.” Your desire to denigrate once again becomes a self-own about your dishonesty.

                    1. Anonymous the Stupid, you are repeating yourself. You deserve what you get. Keep whining and crying.

                  2. Who cares if you work from emails ?

                    I expect a poster to make their point in their comment. Not smeared accross all of Turley’s blog with WP’s horrible threading.

              2. “Anonymous says:February 21, 2021 at 12:03 PM
                Anonymous the Stupid, you haven’t provided any tangible evidence to contradict. That is the sign that you know nothing.”

                A pretty typical comment from S. Meyer (S. Meyer the Stupid, as he calls himself). Nothing to see… Just move along…

                1. Word. Standard troll abuse. Don’t know if anyone moderates this blog — but S. Meyer/ Allan immediately brings every single discussion he enters to the absolute lowest common denominator.

                  Elvis Bug

                  1. “Word. Standard troll abuse.”

                    You should recognize yourself in your comments against others. You can do better Anonymous the Stupid cannot, but so can some of your other personalities. If you wish to act dumb, continue the same. Anonymous the Stupid is a good partner to those that wish to be Stupid.

                    1. We have multiple levels of anonymous posters attacking each other.

                      With all kinds of assumptions required as to which anonymous poster is which.

                      And you wonder why anonymous posts are not entitled to the default presumptions that an identifiable poster gets until they lose them ?

                  2. Many of us here – not on the left grow extremely weary of the fact free nonsense, illogic, constant ad hominem of those on the left.

                    You will have to pardon us if we sometimes resort to the same tactics as you.

                    You should pray that we do not decide to do so permanently.

                    I would suggest reading the Time article on the tactics used to win the 2020 election.

                    And instead of gloating – ponder, how difficult would it be for one or a few people with the same lawless ethical standards as those on the left to thoroughly disrupt the nonsense that went on.

                    It would be trivial for a single person with the ethics of a leftist to completely destroy the election in one of the 6 large cities that gamed the election.

                    100,000 votes are all that separated this election from being a democrat route, giving Trump the house and The Senate.

                    One person could “cancel” 100,000 mailin ballots completely undetectably.

                    You do not seem to grasp that it is your failed morals and lawlessness that are driving everything.

                2. “Anonymous the Stupid, you haven’t provided any tangible evidence to contradict. That is the sign that you know nothing.”

                  That is about as accurate as one can get.

                    1. Anonymous the Stupid, I’m classical liberal/libertarian. That is not authoritarian. You on the other hand are, even thought you don’t understand what the word means.

                    2. Allan the Abusive Authoritarian marches on…,while running his mouth… Nothing of significance comes out…

                    3. Please explain the basis for the authoritarian claim ?

                      Has the poster sought to use the force of government to restrict your rights ?

            2. I do not need to.

              Just about every business a tiny fraction of Trump’s is INDEPENDENTLY audited.
              The accounting firms and lawyers doing those audits are PERSONALLY liable if they do not pick something up.

              They tend to be very good at their job.

              While those in government tend to be abysmal at their jobs – whatever those jobs might be.
              Further they have no accountability and are subject to political presures.

              As as example the “great” Merit Garland – wishful Supreme Court Justice and Biden appointee to the Attorney General, has announced he is going after the KKK.

              What all 5 remaining members in the US ?

              There is more Antifa in Portland than KKK and Neo Nazi’s in the entire US.

              The left is whigged out over problems that do not exist.

              This is further stupidity after the whole Collusion Delusion debacle.

              There should have been serious convictions of those involved.

              DOJ and FBI was used for political purposes under Obama – without sufficient predictate.

              This is politically weaponizing law enforcement.

              Nor was the problem under Obama/Biden limited to the Trump campaign.

              There are myriads of “investigations” that should never have occured.

              We had Spying on Senators and congressmen, and reporters.

              We saw the IRS weaponized.

              This is what Nixon only dreamed of.

              And the left idiots have brought back one of the nut jobs involved.

              You spent 4 years trying to prove that Trump and his family were in anyway profiting from Trump’s presidency – and failed.

              And yet the profiteering of the Biden’s – and numerous other prominent democrats is blatant and you are hiding from it.

              We do not have a justice system. We do not have a legitimate govenrment, we do not have a country when we do not have the rule of law.

              And one of the core requirements of the rule of law is that the law is prosecuted blindly.
              That sex, race, religion, and policitics do not play any part in the enforcement of the law.

              If they do – our government loses legitimacy.

    2. Dennis the menace ; you need to leave smoking crack to hunter biden… can we agree on this ?. You seem to totally ignore the jobs lost alone by fascist leader deblowzio. The absolute crony corruption is of the left. In bed with corporations , hedge funds , and awash in communist Chinese money via the back doors. I guess you tossing out anti trump vomit as a smokescreen wil deflect from the demorat left corruption that is on a scale even bigger than cankles McFraud. The most corrupt and mentally defective president in American history is Lord Darth Biden of chyna…. yet you can’t see the forest for the trees.Typical.

      1. I agree phergus. The entire nation is filled with corruption. The country wouldn’t exist without corruption. The democrats though are on a level far above all others. I contend that of those in the top 1% , 99% have cheated in some form or fashion to acquire their wealth. Of course, the DOJ doesn’t look unless you are an enemy of the establishment such as DT.

        1. Of course they have – because the left defines succeeding as cheating.

          In a real free market with limited govenrment doing its actual job – there is very little “cheating”.

          In a free market no one is obligated to exchange with another.

          I am not required to buy a burger at McD’s and McD’s is not required to sell me a burger.

          We do so because we each trust we will be better off.
          If the money I give McD’s is worthless – they will quit selling to me.
          If the Burger I get from McD’s is unpaletable – I will quit buying from them.

          You can rant and rave about the people that you do business with in your life.

          But you CHOOSE to do so with every single one of them.

          No matter how much you SAY they are cheating, everytime you do business with them you are saying LOUDLY.
          That what they are giving is worth what you are paying.

          They are not “cheating” – you are just moaning that you did not get a better deal.

          “It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker that we expect our dinner, but from their regard to their own self-interest. We address ourselves not to their humanity but to their self-love, and never talk to them of our own necessities, but of their advantages”

          ― Adam Smith, An Inquiry into the Nature & Causes of the Wealth of Nations, Vol 1

    3. This is not about “poor donny”.

      This is about the rule of law.

      Breach of contract is LAWLESS.

      Free markets mean that you are free to enter into an agreement or not for whatever reasons you choose.
      Neither NYC nor anyone else is obligated to contract with Trump for services.

      But once you have entered into a contract – it is binding. You can not opt out of a contract.
      You can only terminate a contract if the other party breached.

      Trump has not breached, therefore NYC terminating is a breach,

      As to those presuring the PGA for political purposes – that is “tortuous interferance in contract” – that is a legitimate cause of action.

      You may not use pressure or leveravge to force others to breech their contracts.

      We can not hove the rule of law if contracts become null and void when the politrical winds shift.

        1. Of course I had – NYC openly admits breaching the contract.

          They are claiming with cause.

          Normally they should prey they can prove that – and the burden of Proof is supposed to be on the party terminating the contract.

          But we have already seen with the 2020 election – and the Time article on how that was finagled that the left has thoroughly corrupted the courts – and we are lawless.

          Whether he has a legitimate case or not – challenging NYC is likely to be fruitless.

          No one but an idiot would expect that in any case in NYC involving Trump that the courts would actually follow the law.

          This is what happens when you go lawless – no one trusts govenrment.

          current polls indicate trust in government is at an all time low – below 40%.

          You broke it – you own it.

          1. If the contract itself says that it can be ended for that cause, then the party who engaged in that cause is the party that’s breaching the contract.

            1. At best Anonymous the Stupid, this is a very superficial reply meant to cover all the bases but in covering all the bases you have proven the comment worthless and yourself, Anonymous the Stupid.

            2. But the burden of proof of cause is always on the party CLAIMING there was cause.

              NYC admitted terminating the contract – there is nothing to prove with respect to claiming NYC breached. They did.

              NYC claims to have done so “for cause” – it is NYC’s burden to prove that cause.

    1. Young, this is all craziness. The left and Democrat leaders are racists and hateful. If MLK were alive today preaching what he did they would nail him to a cross.

      Thanks for the articles.

  7. This is just emblematic of the American Left and Democrats. They are the epitome of fascists, working to implement the same tyrannical thought-police of Mao, Stalin, Castro, Jung-un, etc. The are an embarrassment to freedom and our Constitution and if you support them, you are as well. It really isn’t too dramatic to say the truth — that there are no liberals in the Democrat party. They are haters one and all.

    1. https://therightscoop.com/ministry-of-truth-biden-admin-to-work-with-big-tech-to-censor-news-and-opinion-that-dont-support-his-covid-effort/

      Well it is all about power. With goofooogle and facefuch , oh and yes twat-er on board to help senile lord darth biden of chyna to suppress anything that counters their vaccination propaganda. Gee wiz and here I thought goobermint could …well yeah shouldn’t suppress and quash free speech. This collusion with big tech wealthy oligarchs working with left wing apparatchiks in the Lord Darth Biden of chyna regime are doing exactly that. By using a proxy to filter and suppress dissent of the big brother goobermint message it is defacto silencing free speech…good by 1st Amendment.

    1. Karen- You have it right. They are the true fascists. But notice how they are not insulted when they are called communists. Why might that be?

  8. Communists (liberals, progressives, socialists, democrats, RINOs) act shamelessly in their own interests.

    Americans (republicans, constitutionalists, conservatives) acquiesce, submit and do nothing accretive.

    George W. Bush had the Senate, Congress and the Presidency, could have repealed America back to Constitution and Bill of Rights.

    Where are men of the same resolve as the American Founders when you need them?

    How unique and unusual were the colonial circumstances and history to enjoy the genius of men the caliber of Washington, Jefferson, Hamilton, Madison, Adams, Jay, Franklin, Mason, etc.?

  9. It isn’t Trump that’s being shunned, punished — it’s the “Kids and people of New York City” that are denied their freedom to skate and enjoy the outdoors. This is what is different about Democrats. It’s all about killing the opposition – no matter who becomes the collateral damage! They hate Trump, but before him they hated Conservatives, Christians, morals (and still do). Only when those affected by this evil practice say “no more” will it end.

    1. Trump took over these things because NYC FAILED.

      Why does anyone expect they will do better today ?

      There is actually a long long history – not just of ice rinks but of all public concessions.

      Accross the country we have national and state parks being run by private companies.
      Delivering better service, at lower cost and paying the government for the priviledge to do so.
      As compared to declining service, and increasing costs when govenrment park services ran these fascilities.

  10. “Watch the Trump Era in Atlantic City End With 3,000 Sticks of Dynamite”

    “The implosion of Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino, the last vestige of the former president’s once-dominant brand in Atlantic City, N.J., took place Wednesday morning.”

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/17/nyregion/atlantic-city-trump-plaza-implosion.html

    Excerpt:

    Trump Plaza was the first of three casinos Mr. Trump owned before his gambling businesses in Atlantic City cratered and went bankrupt for good, leaving a trail of unpaid contractors and suppliers — and a bad taste for the Trump brand in this struggling city of 38,000.

    To detractors, including the Democratic mayor, Marty Small, Wednesday’s demolition was the vivid embodiment of a long-awaited end.

    “This is not about President Trump, because, quite frankly, the people here in the great city of Atlantic City knew how the presidency was going to play out on a national stage because we’re one of the cities that knew him best,” Mr. Small said after the implosion.

    — New York Times

  11. The leftists here who usually contradict everything don’t seem to have said much when we posted about Australian news finally saying what so many believe– Biden is senile.

    Marinate in the thought that this who you cheated into office.

      1. Anonymous the Stupid, point of information. If I remember part of Trumps problem was that several of him most important people were killed in a helicopter crash. Secondly, the casino failures were wide spread. Stupid people like you don’t realize that there are down curves as well as up curves and he was on the down curve at the wrong time. In any event a lot of people made a lot of money out of the deals involved.

        You can keep linking if you think that makes you sound smart.

      2. So we are going to take lessons in morals, values, and standards from some hon human non entity piece of garbage? Stick it commie.

      3. Boring leftist drivel. Meanwhile Smurphy of newjerkistaniland has put more businesses under and killed more old folks than anyone politico excepting your hero capo Cuomo. Marinate on that reality.

      4. But, Anonymous, in your reply you neglected to declare that that Biden person is in his right mind.

        That was my point and you confirmed it.

        Biden is obviously so far gone that even Progressives choke if expected to claim Biden is all there.

        We will see less and less of him as Jill and Kamala, and Nancy and AOC get into a raging cat fight to control the government and the lives of every person in America.

        Hillary might want in but she might get the Cuomo treatment if she tries. Who wants another fading mind with a trail of dead bodies behind it?

        1. Bidens doctor just said in an interview this Sunday that Jobama Biden isn’t all there… but they gamed the system, stole an election and placed an islander as vp to soon be potus.
          And no one will stop it… sadly

          1. “Bidens doctor just said in an interview this Sunday that Jobama Biden isn’t all there…”

            Source? Cite?

            1. This is not an insult by Anonymous the Stupid but one of his many requests. He won’t bother with the proof if Judith provides one. He will just run away and one will recognize him by the yellow streak down the back.

              Generally this nutcase can’t back up what he says and when he provides a link one never knows if it will back him up or not. Frequently he has been shown not to fully read the links he provides and doesn’t get embarrassed when his own link proves him wrong. That is truly Anonymous the Stupid.

  12. Will they return them to the condition they were in when DJT took them over, or will they hypocritically keep all the renovations and take credit for them?

  13. NYC Mayor Bill de Balhzio uses creeps in subway trains to advance his political career.

    The naked man who pushed another man onto the NYC train tracks got fried on the electrified third rail.

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