The acquittal of Kyle Rittenhouse produced a number of immediate changes beyond the custodial status of the 18-year-old himself. GoFundMe lifted its ban on people contributing to his defense . . . after his defense was over and the verdict was in. Some media outlets finally reported on evidence that supported his self-defense claims and one critic called for “revisiting” the clearly biased reporting in the case. However, there is one person whose status has not changed: Norfolk Police Officer William Kelly who was fired for simply donating to the Rittenhouse defense fund and writing a supportive note as a private citizen. He made the comment and donation anonymously. The only thing more shocking than Kelly’s loss of his job is that Norfolk City Manager Chip Filer and Police Chief Larry Boone have retained theirs.
I criticized the firing of Kelly last April as a blatant attack on free speech. The termination occurred after Kelly made a $25 donation to the defense of Kyle Rittenhouse. He made the donation anonymously and added the comment “God Bless. Thank you for your courage. Keep your head up. You’ve done nothing wrong. Every rank-and-file police officer supports you.”
Early in the Rittenhouse case, activists sought to cut off Rittenhouse’s ability to raise money for his defense by harassing donors and (successfully) pressuring companies like GoFundMe to block contributions. A criminal defense in any case (let alone a high-profile case with ramped up prosecution teams) is hugely expensive. That financial threat can prompt some to plead guilty. That is why people want to help fund such defenses to guarantee true access to a fair trial. Activists and GoFundMe did everything they could to block such efforts and increase the pressure on this teenager to just plead guilty.
Back to Kelly. This is an officer who had served for almost 20 years when he decided to contribute to the defense. As a police officer, Kelly likely saw the defense grounds more clearly than most people. The jury ultimately agreed with his view that Rittenhouse acted in self-defense. Nevertheless, activists learned his identity and demanded his termination. Filer rushed to satisfy the mob. He fired Kelly with the support of Boone and declared “his egregious comments erode the trust between the Norfolk Police Department and those they are sworn to serve.”
The “egregious comments” were to say anonymously that there are officers who support Rittenhouse and believe in his defense. Kelly has pointed out that Boone was allowed in uniform to march with Black Lives Matter protesters. Yet, he was fired for anonymously making the supportive donation and statement to a legal defense fund.
Various public officials, including Vice President Kamala Harris, have contributed to the The Minnesota Freedom Fund, which “pays criminal bail and immigration bonds for those who cannot otherwise afford to as we seek to end discriminatory, coercive, and oppressive jailing.” They have the right to support such legal defense funds, which serve to assure that litigants have the means to defend themselves. So does Kelly.
When Kelly was fired, many on the left celebrated despite the fact that he was being denied his right to free speech and free association. It is a pattern that I have written about in the past as public employees are fired for statements on social media or associations in their private lives. This includes a New Jersey police officer fired for calling BLM protesters “terrorists” on her personal Facebook account. Most recently, a court reinstated Loudon teacher Byron “Tanner” Cross, who was fired for speaking publicly against gender identification policies.
As it stands, Kelly was fired for supporting (again anonymously) a teenager who was ultimately acquitted of all charges by a jury. He was fired for contributing to a legal fund that would guarantee that the accused would be allowed to put on a full defense. That is in the interest of justice.
Yet, Filer and Boone remain employed despite using their official positions to retaliate for the use of free speech. Kelly and his family continue to appeal his firing as they struggle to survive on the teacher’s salary of his wife. The dictator Idi Amin once proclaimed “There is freedom of speech, but I cannot guarantee freedom after speech.” That seems the standard applied in Norfolk where even anonymous support for a legal defense is grounds for termination.
The Left coordinated a powerful attack to try to prevent an innocent man from defending himself in court. It also brought about a Social Credit System in which people could get fired for supporting the legal defense of an innocent man.
That’s what this was.
Fascists.
Justice for William Kelly.
Time for a class action? Because the list of people who have been canceled, fired, and impoverished due to the Left’s social credit system grows daily.
Karen: you just have to stop this “Left” sh*t. There’s no “Left” coordinating anything, but there is an organized group of pro-Trumpers out there who tried to take over Congress and prevent the peaceful transfer of power. Congress is in the process of investigating how these groups were organized and who all was involved in trying to stop Joe Biden’s victory from being certified. Rittenhouse is NOT innocent. He was just found not guilty of the charges according to how the law is written. He is still a liar, an EMT-pretender who lied about being asked to provide security, and who dresses like a gangster. He has no remorse for killing 2 men. Again, the alt-right media you rely on for daily affirmation does NOT speak for most Americans, and they are trying to create a fantasy world involving an evil “Left” doing all sorts of things against “us” Americans. You believe this crap because you’ve been indoctrinated, but it’s still a lie. Fox, Info Wars, OAN, News Max and Breitbart do not speak for the majority of America. I’m still waiting for proof of widespread voter fraud. It’s been over a year. Where is the proof?
My mom used to have a saying for people like yu:
“You’re so full of crap your eyes are brown”
Currentsitguy,
You turned out just like your mother if that is any satisfaction to you…
Or it’s coming out of your ears.
Independent Bob adds to the discussion:
“Or it’s coming out of your ears.”
You kiss your mother with that mouth of yours?
No he uses that mouth to argue with his bankruptcy attorneys and plead with Child Protective Services.
There’s a picture of Winston Churchill and Adolf Hitler playing Scrabble in the trenches of World War I.
Does this mean that Churchill was a Nazi?
The Nazi party didn’t exist in World War I.
People change, dude.
People change.
People change, dude.
What’s your excuse?
George Soros “Act Blue” troll farm isn’t sending their best
Don’t need excuses.
Although my great uncle Emmanuel Schafer was The Butcher of Belgrade. A particularly nasty Nazi. Shame.
And anyone who mentions “George Soros” is a Foxymoronic conspiracy theory whacko prole dumbass who will babble about Election Fraud and PizzaGate next.
Did you know ChemTrails are a government conspiracy by the Deep State designed to make citizens so gullible and dumb they actually believe ChemTrails are a government conspiracy and there actually is a Deep State?
It’s working!!!
Which QAnon site did you see that picture on?
World War I ended in 1918. Scrabble was invented in 1938
Thank you. These people are using alternative facts. These people are dumb as f@#$$
Have Americans always been this gullible and dumb, and social media has exposed that?
Interesting that Kyle stated his support for Critical Race Theory in his interview with Tucker last night.
CRT says:
“Interesting that Kyle stated his support for Critical Race Theory in his interview with Tucker last night.”
I heard him also say in that interview that he supports BLM. That’s not a good look for Carlson’s poster child.
If you support free speech, then you support everyone’s right to their opinion, including BLM. What he, and many in Kenosha do not support, is BLM protests turning violent, looting, breaking businesses, and committing arson. It’s when it stops being peaceful that we have a problem with it.
Well the BLM people are just as dumb and misguided as people on the right.
This is all ignorant proles fighting over things they don’t understand.
The frustration of the underclass venting itself in dumb ways.
The proles.
Sometimes it does, sometimes it does not.
Kelly’s right to free speech was abridged, as was his right to earn a living. When public officials take away an employees rights not only do they commit an UnConstitutional act, they deny their oath of office, act unethically, and lose the faith of citizens. As has become common place for governmental entities they have a knee jerk reaction bowing to the mob rather than use common sense. Give Kelly back his job with back pay and benefits.
One thing who exposed his name?
Then-candidate Biden described KR as a “white supremacist.”
When asked what he thought about Biden’s claim, KR described it as “actual malice.”
Well played. That, plus the Paula Jones decision, is the combination to the Biden Family’s ill-gotten gains.
Kyle shouldn’t have his picture taken with white supremacists making white supremacy hand signals for the camera if he does not want people to think he is one of them.
And what was this white supremaciat symbol?
“According to the prosecutors’ motion, before entering the bar, Rittenhouse posed outside with two men as they all put their thumbs and forefingers together in what looks like an upside-down OK sign, which has become a symbol used by white supremacists. The motion also claims he He was seen making the same gesture while posing for photos inside the bar.”
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2021/01/14/kyle-rittenhouse-seen-bar-white-power-sign-proud-boys-song/4156448001/
Obama flashed this sign.
Obama flashed a white supremacist sign?
Of course he did.
Makes perfect sense.
Why wouldn’t he?
Because he and Michelle like to dance to The Supremes!
And this has any bearing to his trial how?
IT means KR was a white guy who digs Diana Ross and the Supremes and couldn’t possibly be racist.
What a joke that mischievous disruptors managed to convince Democrats that the OK symbol is suddenly racist.
I hope they target waving hello, next. Or maybe saying hello. They should keep this trend going to see how gullible the Left is. That level of naivety is hilarious.
Sorry. No one gets to commandeer the English language and symbology. Normal people still use the OK gesture to mean they are Okay. As in good.
Okay.👌
I think you need to look at this as a police officer who is supposed to be investigating claims before making a conclusion.
Should a police officer be telling a defendant they did nothing wrong when they killed two people and injured one, and that police officer has not done a full investigation of the facts?
I mean, this guy’s job was internal affairs where he has the power to bury a lot of claims of police misconduct by simply taking a visceral “you have done nothing wrong” to any white police officer in front of him no matter what they have done.
OJ was found not guilty too.
Does that mean he did nothing wrong?
Kelly was a cop who supported vigilantism, which is exactly what Rittenhouse was practicing.
He was breaking common sense laws, if not Wisconsin laws.
A 17-year-old should not walk into a riot with an AR15.
Period. End of story.
Anyone who thinks different probably voted for Trump, bet on the Yankees and sold their Bitcoin at $2000.
Cops should not encourage or support vigilantes.
So he was punished.
No he didn’t. He watched the same videos that proved self defense that the jury watched.
As a homicide detective, he understood that this was a clear case of self defense.
Period.
The Fascists tried to prevent an innocent man from funding his defense, and they enacted a social credit system that sought to fire and impoverish those who supported an innocent man.
Decent people don’t support fascism.
Proved “self defense” how and to whom? The jury was never told that Rittenhouse’s main eyewitness was a Second Amendment gun nut. The prosecutor was denigrated by the trial judge, who, after the defense’s expert said he was a veteran, asked for a round of applause. That judge’s bias was so palpable that SNL did a skit on it. This was NOT a “clear case of self-defense”, because if it were, it wouldn’t have taken 4 days to beat up on those who were holding out for conviction. And, you need to stop trying to start some “social credit system” malarkey, too. Public officials are subject to rules about getting involved in causes. He broke the rule, and got fired. Period.
Thank you Natacha.
I felt like a lone Smart Seal surrounded by Nitwit Sharks in a Stupid Frenzy.
Thanks for your support.
When you get someone on the ground and grab at their weapon, beat them with a blunt object, or point a gun at them and they shoot them, it’s self defense. No qualifications, no “He shouldn’t be there”, no “But his age”, no “They were scared of his gun”, no “He made silly signs with his fingers”, no nothing. Chase and attack someone and they kill you, you just committed suicide, they just helped you along.
It’s the one situation where assisted suicide is legal almost everywhere in America.
What if the guy attacking KR thought he was an “active shooter” and was acting to defend himself and others around him?
Which he probably was doing.
If you saw a kid with an AR15 shooting people and had the ways and means to stop him, wouldn’t you try?
What kind of fool would think an active shooter would jog past thousands of people without shooting anyone, run from people trying to chase him down instead of shooting them, and run towards the police saying he was going to turn himself in?
“Active shooter” does not mean what you think it means.
If mob thought this was an active shooter, they would have scattered. They would have sought cover. A few might have tried to come up behind him. The crowd was behaving as if they did not expect him to shoot at them. Because he was not shooting them.
Look. It’s clear that you side with the pedophile, the convicted domestic violence perpetrator, and the violent mob over someone’s right to defend themselves from attempted murder. You’ve discussed your families connections with the Nazis and Karl Marx. You belligerently resist all reason. You keep lying about Rittenhouse being a racist.
You’re just trolling, apparently, and a waste of time.
I’m not siding with “the pedophile, the convicted domestic violence perpetrator, and the violent mob over someone’s right to defend themselves from attempted murder.”
I’m siding against the stupidity of a 17-year-old lower middle class kid who probably grew up playing violent video games walking into a riot with an assault rifle.
It was stupid, and people got killed.,
He probably couldn’t believe his luck that he got to do the real thing. And get away with it.
If he did that in California he would have had SWAT and helicopters all over him and the cops might have shot him.
And he’d be in jail. For carrying an assault rifle in public.
Wisconsin does things differently but if Wisconsin is so smart, why is it in Wisconsin?
And the son of the guy who went to school with Marx was director of the Wisconsin Historical Society by the way.
My ancestors were very smart, which is why this generation doesn’t tolerate dunderheaded arguments from ignorant proles.
You voted for Trump and bet on the Yankees, didn’t you?
Not a Trumper here, but I wanted to point out that the first charge thrown out against Rittenhouse was the gun charge because it was not an illegal gun nor was it illegal for him to possess it in Wisconsin. Seems like you’re the one with no common sense.
Everyone, including the stupid judge, said that the law was so unclear that the state couldn’t prove charges beyond a reasonable doubt. This is a perfect example of the situation in which having charges dropped does not equate to vindication. The law was intended to allow teenagers to go hunting with their fathers, not to allow someone like Rittenhouse to go toting a gun while pretending to be an EMT.
Forget it Jake, it’s Wisconsin.
Kelly is just a bump on the road to political correctness.
The Lefties don’t care.
Just read some of their comments.
No compassion or sense of fairness.
monumentcolorado:
Based on some of the comments here, it appears that the Leftists would rather the pedophile, the skateboard welder, and the illegal firearm carrier had all murdered Kyle Rittenhouse for the crime of fighting back.
They do so like their communities and their victims passive.
These people are Brown Shirts.
You live in Bizarro world, sister. You got it all bass ackwards.
Kyle R would have been first in line to sign up for the Brown Shirts.
Geez.
Marcus,
Trumpist Karen is the Madame Thérèse Defarge of this blog in case you were not aware.
Though I am extraordinarily grateful for this blog and it’s author’s and participants’ analyses, the thing I’m pretty much left with: there is nothing redeemable remaining for the Democratic Party in this country, I say that as a lifelong Independent, and that if there is, those who espouse that redemption are too cowardly to voice it. The motivations for being too cowardly to address it negates them as trustworthy. Tulsi seems to be the last real, human person remaining in that party, and she is shunned and blacklisted for it, even though by some standards, she too could be considered ‘radical’.
We shouldn’t have to hope for ‘unfiltered facts’ based on the fact that we wouldn’t even have that if the MSM didn’t literally get kicked out of an affair due to their own law breaking stupidity. The party of ‘righting wrongs’? Ha, ha! Not a great MO to begin with in the land of presumed innocent, but also because when they run out of ‘wrongs’ they simply fabricate them out of thin air and indoctrinate other generations to believe their flights of fancy.
They are now the party of power hunger, fear mongering, elitism, and totalitarianism, and that’s just all there is to it in this century. I stated before eslewhere that their attempts to foment very real race war have a lot more in common with Charles Manson that anyone else. That you could easily throw in Mao, Stalin, Marx, and Hitler sure doesn’t make things better. We will either course correct or suffer consequences we haven’t yet begun to imagine, and yes, consequences for ALL people that were not fortunate enough to be born into an elitist protection. it ain’t about race and never was.
God Almighty are you ever the most-egregious example of an alt-right media disciple there is? How on earth can you say, with a straight face, that Democrats are the ones who are “power hungry”, when Republicans are frantically engaging in gerrymandering and changing election laws so that someone like Raffensberger could actually change valid vote totals the next time around? This is because Republicans know that most Americans do not support them. How can you fail to notice Trump’s fear-mongering: calling migrants “murderers, rapists, criminals and vermin”? What about totalitariansim? He actually started an insurrection to prevent the election winner from taking office, by going on rallies to “stop the steal”, promising to march with them, all based on THE BIG LIE, that has been proven repeatedly to be a lie. He fired Barr for refusing to trying to intimidate election officials with absolutely no evidence of fraud. He fired Dan Coats for confirming that he cheated to get into office. He fired Chris Krebs for confirming that 2020 was the most-secure election in US Hisotyr. He tried to bully Secretaries of State into stealing Biden votes and to stop counting ballots when it became evident that he had lost. He initially refused to leave the White House until he was told by President Biden that the White House security know how to eject intruders. He actually said that he wouldn’t leave after 4 years, and you have the gall to call Democrats totalitarians? It’s Republicans who lie about CRT being taught to school children, and that lie got them the VA governer’s office. You speak of elitists? Who is more elitist than Trump, living in his gilded compound in Florida?
Damn you’re good.
All the things I’m thinking, you’re saying.
The Democrats are totalitarian? Wrong.
You’re wasting yourself on the dumb proles on this website – who constitute half of America.
The tired, the poor, the clueless.
The Waco Kid has their number: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZvT2r828QY
Totalitarian is too weak of a term for the human filth burning cities and claiming it is a protest. Pol Pot would be proud of them.
Natacha once posted on this forum using her real name. A quick search revealed a 70+ female in Northern US, attended nursing school, then law school with a solo practice law business, with no active practice. Her business was defunct.
Think of her as a woman with no teeth, a cane, several smelly cats and cat litter, cursing the stars and forgetting where she placed her dentures. Curiously a former commenter, Paul S. Schulte, used to badger her about her high BMI. Now run with that imagery. Not pretty
She’s more intelligent than all you dorks added together.
So you’ve scored a brand new 8 ball tonight didn’t you, Anti-American Dork & now it’s off to your nightly fantasy of your “Pulling a Toobin” to all your Pedo Friend’s crimes.
I suggest putting the lid back on your home & piping down with your cousin next door.
https://banned.video/watch?id=619704b2a40774594f03416d
Seek help. You are quite literally defending the most evil elements in modern American society and I think you actually believe what you are saying.
In addition to this blog…..I would enjoy and support Professor Turley joining like thinking Lawyers in filing Freedom of Speech legal actions beginning with the most egregious cases such as this one of Kelly’s.
If the right team of Lawyers were to step forward and take on such cases….perhaps we might see some very positive benefits in how those who attack Free Speech might react in the future.
If they know they face legal challenges when they cross the line…..they might just stay on the safe side and we would all benefit.
I found Gerry Spence’s Letter to one of his old friends who demanded Spence withdraw from defending Randy Weaver to be very instructive of what Lawyering should be about.
Look it up and read it…..and remember that Spence was successful in his defense of Randy Weaver….a Man who had views Spence despised but Spence saw the larger issue at hand in the Federal Government’s actions against Weaver.
It matters not which side we are on politically when it comes to Freedom of Speech…..as we should all defend others right to speak out as a means to protecting our own right to speak as one day we might just be the “other guy” ourselves.
What state is Norfolk in?
Yeah defund the police.
Who needs cops when you have 17 year old kids with AR15s taking people out?
BenM – If given the choice between the kid and some racist driving a red SUV through a Christmas parade, I’ll take the kid.
I don’t think the dude in the red SUV was racist, he was just stupid and on drugs and apparently fleeing a knife fight.
He isn’t getting out of jail this time.
Ben, From CNN. “The Waukesha, Wisconsin, police chief shot down reports and suggestions that parade terror suspect Darrell E. Brooks was fleeing from police when he rammed revelers during Sunday night’s Christmas parade and said that it appears Brooks intentionally ran them down with intent to inflict carnage.”
He was on drugs.
Did you see him go to the guy’s house and get a sandwich right after he killed all the people?
That’s drugs.
He’s just another screwup who should have been in jail for life.
America needs to bring back the English transportation laws of the 1700s: If you do anything out of line, you are sent in chains to colonies in the new world where you can screw up all you want.
Out of sight, out of mind.
Guess what one of the two recent charges that Brooks had been released on, in the days leading up to his mass murdering rampage?
He had punched a woman in the face and drove over her in that same red SUV.
Democrat policies have led to riots, looting, arson, and murder. Letting criminals out on no bail in some states, low bail in others. Claiming that the race of those incarcerated matters more than their adjudicated guilt.
Out here in deep blue CA, the governor and a few DAs have made it quite clear that they care more about criminals accessing the public, then they do about the law abiding residents of this state.
His rap sheet required quite a while just to read. At what point do they just figure that this guy is antisocial, a menace to society, and lock him up?
Yeah lock him up, I agree.
I wrote a dystopian science fiction novel called No Man Needs Nothing in which California brings back the English transportation laws of the 1700s.
Do anything wrong: Drugs, vagrancy, theft. Anything. And you are shipped off to desert penal camps, terraformed by solar trees.
That’s what England did in the 1700s – shipped off lawbreakers to the New World = Maryland, Virginia, Georgia – and then after the Revolutionary War, to Australia
All for it.
Death to pedophiles, but not by a wannabe white supremacist with an AR15.
He’s as wrong as the rest of them.
just as dumb.
He is not a white supremist, he defended himself from being murdered by 3 WHITE convicted felons. Sorry that hurts your feelings.
He was photographed making the upside down OK sign which is a white supremacist symbol, I believe.
Funny thing about white supremacists is there’s little supreme about them.
He’s just a dumb American kid with a gun.
A kid who probably grew up blowing people away on video games and couldn’t believe he got to do the real thing.
Team America: F@#$ yeah!!!
Great to know that Obama, AOC, Pelosi, Hillary, Bill, Biden, Schiff, Mad Maxine, amongst a whole slew of others are white supremacists. They all flash that same signal you find so threatening.
It’s the upside down OK sign that is supposedly a calling card for white supremacists.
Everyone flashes the OK sign.
Like your wife, when she peeks in the bathroom door to see if you can get up off the toilet by yourself.
And you flash her the OK sign.
If you did it upside down she would think something was screwy.
BenM SAYS: “I don’t think the dude in the red SUV was racist,“ why not? You see Ben blacks can and are racist and supremacist. White Americans have to start learning to play that game and call everything out as racist and black supremacist. Each time a white person is accused of these old chestnuts they should reply “yes I am just like you” to their accuser. Watch how fast those terms will disappear when people stop going on the defensive. That’s the their game play, put you on the defensive and have you deny. It’s been their “dog whistle” to call everything racist and supremacist.
I thought Black Supremacist meant you dug Diana Ross?
Stop! In the name of love!
The guy in the red SUV was and is too dumb to be a supreme anything.
He’s just a screwup on drugs who is definitely going to prison for the rest of his life.
Unless the good people of Waukesha mob the jailhouse and tie up the sheriff and lynch that dude from a tree in the public square.
It’s a tradition.
Margo:
Brooks’ social media was full of racist rants against whites, black supremacy, and BLM. Then he went and deliberately mowed down as many white kids and elders as possible. If this was about a different race, there would be riots.
Instead of investigation the connection as a possible motive, there have been announcements that this was just a crash.
My question is, why was this guy free when he punched the mother of one of his children in her face, and ran over her in that same SUV? That’s the assault that he was out on $1,000 bail. He tried to murder her with that SUV while he was out on $500 bail for yet another offense. Why was this guy even free, and in the position to harm that woman? She’s lucky he didn’t use this latest bail to finish the job of murdering her.
What about the person he strangled prior to that?
Brooks is considered a racist against whites because he made explicitly racist comments about whites. It wasn’t a matter of scrutinizing his mannerisms or expressions and guessing what he really thinks. He told the world what he thinks.
https://nypost.com/2021/11/24/darrell-brooks-called-for-violence-against-white-people/
He’s a drug-addled idiot and now he is going to prison for life.
That is, if the citizens of Wisconsin don’t arm themselves with AR15s and storm the jail like it was the Capitol building, tie up the sherrif and the guards and lynch the dude.
Would that be racist?
Ben Marcus, who is supposed to protect your life and property when the police refuse to show up? It’s not Ben Marcus’ property that’s being burned so why should he give a damn? Oh, he doesn’t.
Why would the police refuse to show up?
Ben Marcus
You win today’s prize for dumbest comment.
Naw the courts are right. Let’s arm all 17 year olds with AR15s and let them patrol and control the streets.
Look at the good work Rittenhouse did.
Rid the world of two scumbags and almost picked off a third.
He should get the Congressional Medal of Freedom or something
Are you still mourning the loss of the pedophile convicted for sodomizing boys between the ages of 9 and 11? And whatever will the would-be skateboard murderers who had previously strangled their own brothers do, if they are stopped from killing people?
You do know that 17 year olds join the military every day, right?
You seem to take issue with defending yourself from being murdered. Good for you. You can always try begging. Just don’t interfere with anyone else who rationally would defend themselves against a crazed mob.
Yes, that’s right–attack the victim instead of the killer. What alt-right media channel told you to believe this?
When the three people in question are literal scum of the earth who chased and attacked someone who did nothing to prompt their suicidal rage I don’t consider that a tragedy, I consider it a good start.
Natacha wrote, “Yes, that’s right–attack the victim instead of the killer.”
Karen S wasn’t attacking the victim. It has been ruled in a court of law that Rittenhouse was the actual victim and as a victim you have the innate human right to self-defense. At this point in time stating or implying otherwise is not voicing an opinion, it’s an intentional lie spewed by a liar.
The three men that were shot played a stupid Darwin Award nominee game of kill that armed S.O.B. conservative and won themselves a miniature copper jacketed lead trophy signifying to the world their unique contributions to a “civil” society.
Natacha wrote, “What alt-right media channel told you to believe this?”
The media sources that told the actual truth, you know real facts, instead of the blantant LIES that were spewed by the progressive left’s media sources. You see Natacha, most of the truly critically thinking rational people around this blog already knew that facts are completely irrelevant to propagandists, liars and idiots like you.
“blatant” not “blantant”
And oh yeah, Fox and Breitbart and OANNinstic are paragons of truth.
Who was it that said “There’s a sucker born every minute?”
Ben Marcus’ barbs are shallow and trite. Don’t even think of asking him to address the substance of the Rittenhouse case. That would be an affront to ‘social justice.’
Ben is not new here, having used dozens of sock puppet accounts, and being blocked by the moderator each and every time. The moderator is traveling on vacation. He will delete comments by “Ben” eventually and block as well
Internet Trolls Are Narcissists, Psychopaths, and Sadists
Trolls will lie, exaggerate, and offend to get a response.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/your-online-secrets/201409/internet-trolls-are-narcissists-psychopaths-and-sadists
Naw America needs more dumbass, wannabe white supremacist kids with guns patrolling the streets and taking out scumbags.
Think how much cities will save on not having to train police.
Rittenhouse Uber Alles!1!
California would have thrown him in jail just for carrying that gun in public, so thank God he was in a red-blooded God-fearing state like Wisconsin.
So the vice president can contribute to the defense of antifa and BLM rioters, but this cop gets fired. And how about Joe Biden calling KR a white supremacists. Seems a little one-sided to me.
OUTSTANDING POST!!!!!
So, there is an acquittal, and by all counts Lieutenant Kelly should have his job back. If that doesn’t happen, is there some sort of “bad faith” remedy too? Punitive damages? Surely a court will award him back pay and reinstatement, but how about punishment for the city officials who mistreated him? Or must we wait for the citizens to throw them out of office?
He should be reinstated and get all his back pay. But you are dealing with a Dem controlled city but in a new Red State. He has a strong case but the Left Wing Radical Social Justic DEM’s are being foolishly stubborn. If decided in the courts Norfolk will pay more $$$$$ and costs but they are woke DEM’s.
The town of Norfolk may have to pay, but neither the city manager or the police chief will have to pay a dime. There never is a personal cost for these people who violate the rights of others.
Would he really want to work with them again if he was reinstated?
Kelly will lose his pension if he doesn’t get his job back. I think he needs one more year to qualify.
There is a reason why Norfolk is an unsafe city just like Richmond. Both are run by Black Democrats (Norfolk: Kenneth Cooper Alexander, Richmond: Levar Stoney) who play the race card but do nothing good for Blacks, as expected…
“Safer than 7% of U.S. Cities…..Norfolk has one of the highest crime rates in America compared to all communities of all sizes – from the smallest towns to the very largest cities. One’s chance of becoming a victim of either violent or property crime here is one in 24. Within Virginia, more than 97% of the communities have a lower crime rate than Norfolk.”
https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/va/norfolk/crime#description
What are the odds officer Kelly would have been fired if he donated to ANTIFA, BLM or a black supremacist organization?
The supervisor who fired William Kelly had attended a BLM rally, in uniform, carrying a sign in support of BLM.
Public employees can make supportive donations and comments, so long as they toe the line. It is a myth that the civil service is wholly non-partisan, altho there were and likely still are some exceptions