Is Russia’s “Meat Grinder” Multiplying War Crimes?

Vladimir Putin may be the greatest proof of John Steinbeck’s claim that “war is a symptom of man’s failure as a thinking animal.” For most of us, there seems no plausible endgame for Putin in his invasion of Ukraine other than death and destruction for both countries. Putin seems to be thinking in a different century but using this century’s weapons.

For criminals, there is often a calculus of risk that is done in looking at the costs and penalties of a crimes. The same is true for most war criminals and Putin is clearly now in that class of criminals. There is mounting evidence of war crimes, particularly in attacks on civilian areas.

Putting aside the legal avenues for action in the short term, there is no question about the violation of international law in Russia’s invasion. The invasion was done without provocation or necessity. The response was far beyond any claim of just cause or threat. Moreover, Russia appears to be moving dangerously with in shift military tactics that will greatly increase civilian losses.

What was most notable today was the reported use of rockets and other munitions against the second largest city in Ukraine, Kharkiv.

Article 51(2) of Additional Protocol I to the 1949 Geneva Conventions, states:

The civilian population as such, as well as individual civilians, shall not be the object of attack. Acts or threats of violence, the primary purpose of which is to spread terror among the civilian population, are prohibited.

Article 48 of Protocol I further states:

In order to ensure respect for and protection of the civilian population and civilian objects, the Parties to the conflict shall at all times distinguish between the civilian population and combatants, and between civilian objects and military objectives, and accordingly shall direct their operations only against military objectives.

The use of artillery and Katyusha rockets on urban centers raise serious questions of war crimes. Notably, just the day before, Putin’s ally Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko mocked the Ukrainians and described the fighting thus far as a “bed of roses.” He threatened that the Ukrainian people would face a “meat grinder” in the coming days.

Common Article 3 of the 1949 Geneva Conventions prohibits “violence to life and person, in particular murder of all kinds, mutilation, cruel treatment, and torture” when perpetrated against persons “taking no active part in the hostilities.”

Russia, and Putin in particular, could be accused of such war crimes. The concern is that not just the obvious human suffering that he is causing, but that Putin is digging himself in deeper and deeper in terms of legal, political, and economic costs.

There is great concern that Putin appears unstable and even fatalistic. If he fears prosecution, he may actually become more dangerous. That may increase further with protests in Russia.

Nevertheless, Putin is well beyond any cognizable claim of justified war. The scenes from Kharkiv suggest that he is crossing the redline on tactics. Equally concerning is the image of miles of artillery heading toward major cities as well as the positioning of thermobaric weapons. (Russia reportedly used such air-fuel bombs in Chechnya). Some sources are also reporting the use of cluster bombs. These are blunt tools that would clearly constitute war crimes if used on civilian areas. Russia has previously been accused of such war crimes in places like Syria.

The International Criminal Court is reportedly monitoring the Ukrainian situation. However, the definition of a war of aggression remains mired in debate. More importantly, while the ICC was created under the Rome Statute in 2002, Russia is not a party to that treaty. Nor is Ukraine.

It is possible for the United Nations Security Council to bring in the ICC but that is hardly likely with China and Russia exercising veto authority in the United Nations.

The World Court does claim jurisdiction in some disputes under the International Convention for the Suppression of the Financing of Terrorism and the International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination. Since Russia is accused of targeting the Ukrainian people, there could be a claim of genocide but Russia can challenge that characterization given its strategic objectives. As for the general “war of aggression” claim, it is also not as clear under existing rules.  Again, the United Nations could ask the World Court for an opinion on such claims.

There is also the European Court of Human Rights. Both Russia and Ukraine are members of the European Court of Human Rights and the Strasbourg-based court can rule on conflicts between its 47 member states. Yet, this is a slow process without real teeth for Putin.

Nevertheless, as shown at Nuremburg, the world can claim the right to form tribunals to judge war crimes committed by rogue nations like Russia. Indeed, Russia was part of those proceedings after World War II.

Vladimir Putin remains a relic of an earlier age, but he is also a relic with one of the most powerful armies in the world. Not much has changed since World War II on meaningful legal avenues for the deterrent of such aggression. However, much has changed economically. The world has become far more interdependent on financial and market levels.

It is difficult to see how Putin thinks that his fragile economy can long survive in isolation, even with the support of countries like China. That is why this is such an important moment for testing international resolve. Indeed, even if sanctions do not force a Russian withdrawal, they could deter China in moving against Taiwan. However, they must be so complete and severe to concentrate the mind of Xi Jinping. That is still not happening with Germany and other countries actively protecting the Russian energy sector and the United States still purchasing Russian energy.

Nevertheless, the heavy sanctions against Russia will be the test of economics as an effective deterrent to military aggression. Obviously, these economic moves are done in concert with legal measures to isolate and expose Russian firms and figures. However, in the short term, the international economic system will be more important in stopping this aggression than our international legal system.

212 thoughts on “Is Russia’s “Meat Grinder” Multiplying War Crimes?”

  1. Jonathan: You are tilting at windmills if you think Putin will be held accountable for “war crimes” under international law. Was GW Bush or Donald Rumsfeld prosecuted for lying us into the war in Iraq in which hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians were killed? For years Trump praised Putin as a “tough” leader. In the initial days after the invasion of Ukraine Trump called Putin “very savvy”, “smart” and a “genius”. Trump only changed his tune over the weekend at the CPAC convention when he got a lot of blowback from rank and file non-Putin wing Republicans. But Trump blamed Biden for being “weak” in responding to the Russian invasion saying he could have prevented Putin from acting. Trump’s empty boasts are legend.

    And Tucker Carlson, your co-worker at Fox, continues to back Putin. He says it’s “not un-American to support Putin”, “Ukraine is not a Democracy” and the Russian invasion is just a “border dispute”. Carlson has even attacked Facebook, YouTube and Google for taking down RT, the Russian state controlled broadcaster. RT was so impressed by Carlson’s support they posted a clip of Carlson’s broadcast. There are other supporters of Putin. Pat Robertson came out of retirement to give his evangelical take by saying Putin “is being compelled by God” to invade Ukraine in preparation for the massive End Times invasion of Israel. Even God is on Putin’s side!

    The only question is how are you going to explain Putin’s “war crimes” to the over 4 million viewers of Carlson’s show? Maybe Carlson will invite you on his show to do a mea culpa–you know like Ted Cruz!

  2. This is getting beyond ridiculous. There should be a special task to hunt down and arrest Putin, with all of the resources, personnel, and equipment necessary to accomplish this special task. This needs to stop NOW.

    1. “There should be a special task to hunt down and arrest Putin, with all of the resources, personnel, and equipment necessary to accomplish this special task. This needs to stop NOW.”
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  3. In theory, every war can be won. It is just that there are saboteurs and enemies within that impede it. The military could operate at 100%, but the enemies within make it operate at 50%. These internal enemies cause America to lose wars that it could otherwise win.

    1. What was the US doing in Iraq & Afghanistan after GW, Dick Chaney & the Saudis on 9/11?

      Answer that & maybe we can get back to Tucker.

  4. Countries can act independently of NATO if they want to. That IS an option. They have the means to destroy that Russian convoy with bombers and fighter jets with bombs. The Ukrainians aren’t afraid of going to war with Russia, so why should Britain, France, or the United States?

  5. Maybe Brandon would like Mitt Rodney’s 1980s foreign policy back.

  6. George W. Bush, Iraq. War criminal. Jokes about WMD’s and gets a pass from the press. Condi Rice, mushroom cloud, waterboading advocate, Stanford’s and America’s darling.

  7. Note to Biden:

    Immediately insert a covert Special Ops Neutralization Unit in Moscow to address Putin with extreme prejudice.

    Putin has left the building and is entirely off the reservation.

  8. (“Is Russia’s “Meat Grinder” Multiplying War Crimes?

    Vladimir Putin may be the greatest proof of John Steinbeck’s claim that “war is a symptom of man’s failure as a thinking animal.” )

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    Is Biden’s crew, Dims, Rinos “Meat Grinder” Multiplying War Crimes?

    They are the greatest proof of John Steinbeck’s claim that “war is a symptom of man’s failure as a thinking animal.”

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    Article 51(2) of Additional Protocol I to the 1949 Geneva Conventions, states:

    The civilian population as such, as well as individual civilians, shall not be the object of attack. Acts or threats of violence, the primary purpose of which is to spread terror among the civilian population, are prohibited.

    Article 48 of Protocol I further states:

    In order to ensure respect for and protection of the civilian population and civilian objects, the Parties to the conflict shall at all times distinguish between the civilian population and combatants, and between civilian objects and military objectives, and accordingly shall direct their operations only against military objectives.

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    Don’t watch this, just remain ignorant at our & your family’s own peril.

    Most of you have already been shot, you might as whiler know who shot you.

    https://www.banned.video/watch?id=621d5a4a281687365a36e0d9

      1. Oky1…….Hope you and your wife are well….As always, thank you for the video……and p.s. that’s a great Steinbeck quote!

        1. LOL Hi Cindy,

          I’m laugh as I’d better stop all this carb binge eating over freezing weather, bio-weapons & flying nukes les I become a bit of a whale. ;). I’m still thinking I need to listen to pleasant music & think positive vibes.

          AKA: Let Jesus guide us all to the best choice as always;

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          For we are not fighting against flesh-and-blood enemies, but against evil rulers and authorities of the unseen world, against mighty powers in this dark world, and against evil spirits in the heavenly places.

          https://biblehub.com/ephesians/6-12.htm

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          That Steinbech guy is an interest cat. Some, ie; US intel/etc., believed he was a seerer or something. (AJ)

          Things seem to be going along good here. As the new norm, wife gets another test soon & we’ll see.

          I seen your post recently, I think you wrote you & that nice lawyer feller have been hitched 48 yrs, wife & I are past 42 years.

          I hope things are well for you guys also.

          As I’ve heard, troubles will come & go, but I hold strongly that having the bond of a family smooths many of the bumps in our lives.

          Aside all that the daffodils have awoken & are almost ready here to smile at us again. We’ve got a 100 more this year.

          I’m thinking happy thoughts, that the 2 full grown G shepards don’t race through the middle of them LOL;) They get a bit Happy.

          1. OT…… Great to chat with you, Oky1……..Sending positive thoughts your way for your wife”s test! Happy 42 years, btw.
            Actually, ours will be FIFTY!! 50 years in December. No wonder I’m tired! Hey, maybe some year we can all meet at Turner Falls. 😎

            1. Cindy, thanks for the positive thoughts, it did help get that last court piece up post, even with the typos.

              I’ve seen what evil has been up to & I just hope to sow the seeds for others to look into & compose & fix the typos for more filings & the public’s rebuke of what they’ve been doing.

              I’m not sure how 2022 will shake out & what we can do but Turner Falls sounds interesting.

              For now, time, I’ve got to start closing links & saving the right ones.

              Maybe the Angels that have been looking over us here will stop & say howdy to you guys & friends there.

        2. “That Steinbech guy is an interest cat. ”

          I got twisted again, it was Stanley Kubrick that US intel/etc., believed he was a seerer or something like that. (AJ).

          Steinbeck, maybe in today’s time/knowledge he’d adjust the the script & the ended to Grapes of Wrath, I would.

    1. In an attempt at bring everyone & Prof Turley update to what’s already happened to them & where the battle field for everyone’s Body Autonomy is fast heading this below link is one of a series I hope to rapidly compose into something that you should want to join lawyers like Robert Kennedy Jr, Robert Barnes, Dr. Malone, Dr, McCullough (sic)… etc…

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      New Zealand High Court ENDS Jacinda Ardern’s Vaccine Mandate: “It’s a Gross Violation of Human Rights”
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      New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern was left reeling on Friday after a High Court ruled that her vaccine mandate represented a “gross violation of human rights” for New Zealanders.

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      Justice Francis Cooke ruled that ordering frontline police officers and Defence staff to be vaccinated or face losing their job was not a “reasonably justified” breach of the Bill of Rights.

      Nzherald.co.nz reports: The lawyer for the police and Defence staff at the centre of the claim is now calling for the suspended workers to return to their jobs immediately, saying many have given decades of service to their community and are still committed to their jobs.

      The challenge, put forward by a group of Defence force and police employees, questioned the legality of making an order under the Covid-19 Public Health Response Act to require vaccination for frontline employees.

      The challenge was supported by a group of 37 employees affected by the mandate, who submitted written affidavits to the court.

      Minister of Workplace Relations and Safety Michael Wood, Deputy Police Commissioner Tania Kura and NZDF Chief People Officer Brigadier Matthew Weston filed affidavits defending the mandate.

      As it stands, 164 of the overall police workforce of nearly 15,700 were affected by the mandate after choosing not to be vaccinated. For NZDF, the mandate affected 115 of its 15,500 staff.

      The group relied on two aspects of the Bill of Rights – the right to decline a medical procedure and the right to religious freedom.

      On the religious freedom argument, a number of those who made submissions referred to their fundamental objection to taking the Pfizer vaccine, given that it was tested on the cells that were derived from a human foetus.

      Justice Cooke agreed with the claim, saying that “an obligation to receive the vaccine which a person objects to because it has been tested on cells derived from a human foetus, potentially an aborted foetus, does involve a limitation on the manifestation of a religious belief.”

      However, Justice Cooke disagreed with the claimants’ broader claims that requiring vaccination is inconsistent with holding religious beliefs more generally.

      “I do not accept that a belief in an individual’s bodily integrity and personal autonomy is a religious belief or practice. Rather it seems to me, in the circumstances of this case, to be a belief in the secular concept referred to in section 11 of the New Zealand Bill of Rights Act.”

      Justice Cooke also agreed with the claim that the mandate impinged on the right to decline a medical procedure.

      The judge said that while it’s clear the government isn’t forcing Police and NZDF employees to get vaccinated against their will and they still have the right to refuse vaccination, the mandate presents an element of pressure.

      “The associated pressure to surrender employment involves a limit on the right to retain that employment, which the above principles suggest can be thought of as an important right or interest recognised not only in domestic law, but in the international instruments,” Justice Cooke stated.

      But in considering the two claims, Justice Cooke also considered whether or not the mandate fell within the definitions laid out in the Covid-19 Public Health Response Act.

      The court accepted that vaccination has a significant beneficial effect in limiting serious illness, hospitalisation, and death, including with the Omicron variant. However, it was less effective in reducing infection and transmission of Omicron than had been the case with other variants of Covid-19.

      “In essence, the order mandating vaccinations for police and NZDF staff was imposed to ensure the continuity of the public services, and to promote public confidence in those services, rather than to stop the spread of Covid-19. Indeed health advice provided to the government was that further mandates were not required to restrict the spread of Covid-19. I am not satisfied that continuity of these services is materially advanced by the order,” the Judge said.

      “Covid-19 clearly involves a threat to the continuity of police and NZDF services. That is because the Omicron variant in particular is so transmissible. But that threat exists for both vaccinated and unvaccinated staff. I am not satisfied that the order makes a material difference, including because of the expert evidence before the court on the effects of vaccination on Covid-19 including the Delta and Omicron variants.”

      An additional claim that the mandate would disproportionately affect Māori was dismissed by Justice Cooke.

      https://newspunch.com/new-zealand-high-court-ends-jacinda-arderns-vaccine-mandate-its-a-gross-violation-of-human-rights/

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          Bill Gates developing a needless vaccine that spreads like a virus to unvaccinated. / Ethan Huff, Naturalnews , 2,25/2022.

          1. Is Bill Gates/the Global Reset trying to Rape us all or k*ill us all?

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            PEOPLE Become THE PLAGUE: Bill Gates Developing Needle-Less Vaccine That Spreads Like A Virus To The Unvaccinated
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            February 25th 2022, 12:22 pm
            The goal is to create a vaccine that people “catch” without their consent, and without the need for any injections.

            https://www.infowars.com/posts/people-become-the-plague-bill-gates-developing-needle-less-vaccine-that-spreads-like-a-virus-to-the-unvaccinated/

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        COVID Spike Protein Contains DNA Sequence Patented By Moderna THREE YEARS Before Pandemic Began, Scientists Discover
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        February 23rd 2022, 5:17 pm
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        The SARS-CoV-2 spike protein contains a DNA sequence identical to a genetic code patented by pharmaceutical company Moderna three years before the COVID pandemic emerged, according to researchers.

        A study published in Frontiers in Virology on Monday by an international team of researchers found that the SARS-CoV-2 furin cleavage site (FCS) contains a tiny bit of genetic code identical to a part of a gene patented by Moderna in 2016.

        The researchers claim that since there is a 1 in 3 TRILLION chance Moderna’s patented sequence randomly appeared through natural evolution, that the China Virus may have mutated during experiments on human cells in a lab.
        screenshot/Frontiers in Virology

        “The absence of CTCCTCGGCGGGCACGTAG from any eukaryotic or viral genome in the BLAST database makes recombination in an intermediate host an unlikely explanation for its presence in SARS-CoV-2,” the scientists wrote.

        Moderna’s patented sequence is part of a gene called MSH3, which is comprised of about 3,300 units of genetic code known as nucleotides.

        The code the researchers found contains 19 of those same nucleotides out of the 30,000-nucleotide composition that makes up SARS-CoV-2.

        “The presence in SARS-CoV-2 of a 19-nucleotide RNA sequence encoding an FCS at amino acid 681 of its spike protein with 100% identity to the reverse complement of a proprietary MSH3 mRNA sequence is highly unusual,” the researchers noted.

        But some researchers are claiming the study doesn’t show anything meaningful.

        Professor Lawrence Young, a supporter of the ineffective COVID vaccine, called the finding a “quirky” coincidence that doesn’t necessarily prove the China Virus is manmade.

        “We’re talking about a very, very, very small piece made up of 19 nucleotides,” Young said. “So it doesn’t mean very much to be frank, if you do these types of searches you can always find matches.”

        “It’s a quirky observation but I wouldn’t call it a smoking gun because it’s too small,” he added.

        Earlier this month, Hungarian scientists discovered “traces of a unique variant of coronavirus while examining DNA from soil from Antarctica that had been sent to the firm Sangon Biotech in Shanghai,” the Daily Mail reported.

        “The researchers also found genetic material from Chinese hamsters and green monkeys, which may suggest the virus was being examined in a lab, using either the animals themselves or their cells.”

        This suggests coronavirus didn’t jump from wildlife into humans naturally, but was studied in a Chinese lab prior to its release.

        Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla also recently admitted that his company’s mRNA vaccine was developed based on a lab-made version of SARS-CoV-2 rather than a naturally-occurring coronavirus.

        “The data that we received are data that they got from what we call a pseudovirus, so it’s not the real virus, it is a virus that we have constructed in our labs and it is identical with the Omicron virus,” Bourla said.

        The data from this latest study is just more evidence that contradicts the official narrative pushed by NIAID Director Anthony Fauci and EcoHealth Alliance President Peter Daszak that COVID-19 originated naturally from bats despite the WHO acknowledging that Patient Zero was likely a Wuhan lab worker.

        Read the study:

        https://www.infowars.com/posts/covid-spike-protein-contains-dna-sequence-patented-by-moderna-three-years-before-pandemic-began-scientists-discover/

        1. There’s a main Pfizer piece & maybe a few more, this is enough for now.

  9. America should not be afraid of conflict with Russia, instead, Russia should be afraid of conflict with America.

      1. Area 51 must have something superior by now, 77 years of technological investment after the Manhattan Project.

  10. Some people commenting appear to believe that war is a light-hearted affair, or a serial on TV. It’s not. Ask the Houthis or the Bosnian Croats or the Ukrainians and Russians, whose grandfathers died in the millions to defeat Nazi Germany and its allies (Fascist Italy, Finland, Romania, Hungary, Slovakia, Croatia, Portugal, and Spain all had troops supporting the German army). In another comment I noted that Russian practice would be to use tactical nukes if pushed to the wall, but did not supply a link, so here is one. As you read it, remember that two nuclear weapons have been used, and the people who ordered their use were never prosecuted for war crimes.
    https://spectatorworld.com/topic/russia-use-nuclear-weapons-nato-ukraine/

  11. The United States is not a party to Additional Protocol I, but the we accept the provisions cited here as customary international law; Russia is a party. So far the Russians seem to have been relatively restrained. When the dust has finally settled, history suggests that many of the civilian casualties will have been collateral damage from attacks on military objectives – tragic, but not war crimes. (The Russians thought they would have an easy victory, so they didn’t want to destroy all the valuable loot they thought they’d get) What is ominous is that they may now be falling back on their old tactic of massive, indiscriminate force, or so the 3-mile long column of military vehicles approaching Kiev suggests.

    1. The Russians have been restrained to a fault for years through an ocean of provocations and threats against them – both outside and inside their borders— near-encirclement by a hostile military alliance, and the “democratic” slaughter of nearly 20,000 of their brethren who live in Ukraine.

      1. David Harrell, how much per word do they pay you to write that disinformation?

        1. You fail as a propagandist when all you can do is write unfounded ad hominems against the other guy’s factual arguments.

          1. USSR ===> Gorbachev ===> Yeltsin ===> Putin …..$20 Billion networth plus crimes against Russians and humanity for decades. But dont let your historical revisionism get in the way of historical facts of a KGB killer as “president” of Russia suddenly appearing as a ….wait for it…cold blooded killer.

            …….

            “Putin the Apostate”

            https://taibbi.substack.com/p/putin-the-apostate?utm_source=url

            “ I would like to point out that we already tried regime change in Russia. I remember, because I was there. And, thanks to a lot of lurid history that’s being scrubbed now with furious intensity, it ended with Vladimir Putin in power. Not as an accident, or as the face of a populist revolt against Western influence — that came later — but precisely because we made a long series of intentional decisions to help put him there.

            Once, Putin’s KGB past, far from being seen as a negative, was viewed with relief by the American diplomatic community, which had been exhausted by the organizational incompetence of our vodka-soaked first partner, Boris Yeltsin. Putin by contrast was “a man we can do business with,” a “liberal, humane, and decent European” of “alert, controlled poise” and “well-briefed acuity,” who was open to anything, even Russia joining NATO. “I don’t see why not,” Putin said. “I would not rule out such a possibility.”

            The New York Times Magazine, noting that the KGB of the seventies that Putin joined was no longer really a murder factory but just another “thinking corporation,” even compared him once to Russia’s first true Western-looking leader:

            In him, Russia has found a humane version of Peter the Great, a ruler who will open the country to the influence of a world at once gentler and more dynamic than Russia has ever been.”

      2. Yeah, David Harrell,

        Putin has been so ‘restrained’ that he has limited his activities to jailing and killing political opponents.

  12. When you consider joining a club, such as 24 Hour Fitness or Planet Fitness, they entice you with a free-trial membership, to take the club for a “test drive”, if you will, to see if the club and all of the services that it provides are to your liking. They give you a taste of what it’s like to be a member. If NATO offered Ukraine a free-trial, it could have included the bombing of enemy tanks and trucks, and the shooting down of fighter jets, for a limited time. “This is what you get with your membership!” the brochure could have read. Unfortunately, Club NATO did not offer a free-trial to Ukraine. If I were Ukraine, I would take my business elsewhere to a competing alliance.

  13. Let’s start with the issue of Ukraine terrorizing and shelling the Donbas region for 8+ years.

    Cause, effect. The world didn’t seem to care until the bully (Ukraine/NATO) got punched back.

    1. ictsmkn2,

      Is another puppet of our pro-Putin blog stooge. And to think Turley has let this idiot dominate this forum for 3 years at this point.

  14. I am against the Russian invasion and I understand the International law.
    The one thing that I have not seen discussed is the Monroe Doctrine, which allows the USA to interfere in western hemisphere countries’ affairs. Is Russia entitled to the same consideration in its sphere of influence? That seems to be a relevant question to be discussed in the International law discussion.

    1. Don’t con us Bill.

      The Putin Doctrine ain’t gonna fly.

      The issue is the propagation of American constitutional freedom vs. the slavery of the “dictatorship of the proletariat” of Comrade General Secretary and Dear Leader Flatdimmer Putin.

        1. That’s like saying “Crazy Abe” Lincoln was beneficial and salutary for America, when his brutal “Reign of Terror” destroyed the Constitution, decimated the country and killed 1 million Americans, leaving the freed-slave illegal alien problem to fester for 162 years and counting – imagine, they’re allowed to vote – now what do you think they’ll vote for? What a mess, Abe!
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          “I’ll have those n—–s voting Democratic for the next 200 years.”

          – Lyndon Baines Johnson
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          Take a look around. See if you can find the rights and freedoms provided by the Constitution and Bill of Rights.

          Take a look around. See if you can find the compulsory principles of the Communist Manifesto: Central Planning, Control of the Means of Production, Redistribution of Wealth and Social Engineering.

          Get back to me.

      1. Interesting how selective the World Court and MSM are when applying “war crimes” criteria to a conflict. Wasn’t applied to N Korea & China, N Vietnam, Cambodia, any African country, Iran or Iraq, Syria, Columbia, Nicaragua.

          1. David, you’re arguing with the same idiot who’s been fielding 20 puppets per day for at least 3 years.

    2. Notice it is the Monroe Doctrine, not the Jefferson Doctrine, Adams Doctrine, and certainly not the Washington Doctrine.
      Amazed every time I hear the ease with which the people who think for us except that WAR$hington gets to rule half the globe just because, well, we got the guns and we got the warships. Oh, and something like it’s our “Destiny.”
      I’m not a leftist. I am a Declaration of Independence-ist — a classical liberal — and I place the Monroe Doctrine right alongside slavery as a relic of the colonial age.

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