Pelosi’s Court: How the Jan. 6 Committee Undermined its Own Legitimacy

Below is my column in The Hill on the January 6th Committee hearings and how the Democrats undermined the legitimacy of their investigation by breaking the long tradition of bipartisan and balanced membership on such special committees. Many of us support the effort to release more information and evidence on what occurred on that day. However, Speaker Nancy Pelosi decided to forego even the pretense of a bipartisan and full inquiry.

Here is the column:

In 1924, Lord Gordon Hewart famously declared, “Justice should not only be done, but should manifestly and undoubtedly be seen to be done.” The lord chief justice of England, he believed that even a small allegation of possible bias by a court clerk meant justice was not seen to be done and, thus, was not done.

Lord Hewart’s quote came to mind while watching the opening night of the House’s Jan. 6 select committee public hearings. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) decided a year ago to break from tradition and blocked two Republican committee members selected by GOP leaders. In response, House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) pulled his other committee nominees, and Pelosi then seated two staunchly anti-Trump Republicans — Reps. Liz Cheney (Wyoming) and Adam Kinzinger (Illinois).

Congress has a long history of bipartisan investigatory and select committees. Many were formed during deep political rifts — yet, for 230 years, Congress maintained the need for bipartisan membership. That was the case with the Watergate committees, the House Committee on Assassinations, the Special Committee to Investigate the National Defense Program, the House Select Committee to Investigate Covert Arms Transactions and other investigations. It would have been easy to stack the decks and limit the members by party on each of those committees, but past congressional leaders understood that the credibility of such investigations required balance, including opposing views.

Pelosi’s decision to gut that process was something of a signature muscle play. As a witness in the first Trump impeachment, I was highly critical of her insistence that the House would impeach before Christmas rather than conduct the traditional impeachment investigation with witnesses. Instead of building a more convincing case, Pelosi preferred to impeach with virtually no record, for a certain defeat in the Senate. In the second impeachment, she went one better: She held no hearing at all and pushed through the first “snap impeachment.”

The Jan. 6 committee was similarly stripped of any pretense. It was as subtle a political move as Pelosi’s ripping up President Trump’s State of the Union speech. Asked what she hoped to achieve from the committee on the first day of hearings, Pelosi tellingly referred to it as a “narrative.” It is the difference between seeing and simulating justice.

According to The New York Times, that narrative is meant to “recast the midterm message” and “give [Democrats] a platform for making a broader case about why they deserve to stay in power.” It was packaged with the help of a high-powered media figure brought in to help stage the event. Much of the media touted how the hearings would be “must-see TV” and would force voters “not to look away” from Trump’s “coup.” Countervailing evidence was edited out. Thus, Trump was shown calling for the protesters to “march” on the Capitol — but not his additional words to do so “peacefully.”

That withheld line from Trump would hardly have exonerated the former president. I publicly condemned Trump’s speech while it was being given, and I called for a bipartisan vote of censure over his responsibility in the Capitol riot. The new footage shown by the committee only magnified the revulsion many of us felt in watching this desecration of our Capitol and our constitutional process. However, such one-sided accounts rob these proceedings of a sense of authenticity and authority.

However, they deliver precisely what Pelosi demands: politics unburdened by process. Ironically, it is the very same dismissal of process and principle that is often attributed to Trump.

The shame is that it could have been so much more if the committee were balanced and allowed a broader scope of inquiry.

For example, the first two witnesses highlighted the ongoing controversy over the failure of Congress to adequately prepare for the riot despite repeated warnings from the executive branch. Capitol Police officer Caroline Edwards and Nick Quested, a British documentarian, both noted the shocking absence of sufficient officers around the Capitol. Quested described “hundreds” of Proud Boys marching on the Capitol and seeing a single officer at one barricade; Edwards described a handful of officers holding back hundreds of protesters. Critical anti-riot equipment was not distributed or was affirmatively withheld. Security objectives were ignored, and even Edwards said officers were quickly and easily overrun due to lack of support.

Four days before the riot, records indicate the Capitol allegedly was asked if it wanted to request National Guard troops but declined. Yet The Washington Post and PolitiFact have insisted this is false. It would be useful to get the full story on what decisions were made — but House leaders appear to have curtailed inquiries into the failure to properly staff or equip officers at the scene, to erect fencing, or to call for the National Guard after the riot erupted.

This first hearing looked like the uncontested opening statement in a persona non grata proceeding, a hearing designed to denounce or expel an individual. Much of the evidence was designed to show that Trump repeatedly was told that he lost the election and thus had no good faith basis to challenge the election’s certification.

Well, many of us said exactly that two years ago. Moreover, if the effort is to convict Trump of being a narcissistic or craven person, you hardly need a select committee to make that case to the Democratic base or to much of the rest of America.

Perhaps the most surprising element in the start of the hearings is the person who was portrayed as the guardian of democracy: former Attorney General William Barr. After Democrats called for Barr to be impeached or even criminally charged, he was shown repeatedly as holding the line against Trump’s claims and demands. For those of us who have defended Barr for years, it was a welcome but weird sight to behold.

There is considerable evidence that Trump’s people planned for a certification challenge, but that was always anticipated. Not long after the election, I wrote about that possibility in what I called the “Death Star strategy.” It is not a crime to plan such a challenge, even without good cause. Without any direct connection to organizing or supporting the ensuing violence, that would remain a moral — not a legal — failure.

Indeed, if opposing views were allowed, then Republicans likely would call for the testimony of committee Chairman Bennie Thompson (D-Miss.), who voted to challenge the certification of the 2004 results of President George W. Bush’s reelection; committee member Jamie Raskin (D-Md.) sought to challenge Trump’s certification in 2016. Both did so under the very law that Trump’s congressional supporters used in 2020. And Pelosi and Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) praised the challengeorganized by then-Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.) in 2004.

The difference, of course, is that while there were violent protests in 2016 in Washington, there was not a riot that breached the Capitol. Yet, given that history, it was more important than ever for House leaders to reinforce the credibility of this committee by adhering to the long-respected principle of bipartisan appointments.

But this is Speaker Pelosi’s — not Lord Hewart’s — “court,” where the only thing “manifestly and undoubtedly” guaranteed is politics, without the pretense of principle.

Jonathan Turley is the Shapiro Professor of Public Interest Law at George Washington University. Follow him on Twitter @JonathanTurley.

542 thoughts on “Pelosi’s Court: How the Jan. 6 Committee Undermined its Own Legitimacy”

  1. The Left controls the narrative, most 3 letter agencies, propaganda vehicles through all social media. It controls what you can find on a Google search. What you can say in school. The Left is now attacking kids unless they use the grammatically incorrect plural pronoun for a single person.

    This is how the Left rioted, burned, committed arson, burned down a police precinct, threw bombs at federal buildings, assaulted and murdered cops, seized entire city blocks in territory they controlled as “autonomous”, to which they denied entry to cops and first responders, threatened to burn down cities unless court verdicts went their way, defunded the police, caused a crime wave, attacked Asians, Jews, and their businesses, and barged into restaurants where they threatened diners unless they pledged loyalty oaths to them. Most of them were not charged. Of those few who were, most of them were diverted to rehabilitation programs, even for serious crimes. Major politicians, including Biden and Harris, bailed them out of jail.

    That was labeled as mostly peaceful. Activists convinced come major corporations to pledge loyalty to BLM, require such oaths by their employees, and in some memorable instances, make their white employees kneel. Schools allowed BLM clothing but punished Blue Lives Matter clothing.

    There was nothing to see here.

    Then, one day, a group broke off from a Trump rally, trespassed inside the Capitol with the intent to protest the election results or take selfies, and caused property damage. One of the unarmed protestors who shot and killed by police. That was bad. No one should interrupt a Congressional proceeding or ever damage Capitol property, especially historical buildings. Most of them were charged with illegal parading and trespassing. There were no firearms brought inside from the charges that I read. These people were thrown into solitary confinement and the book thrown at them.

    These were people who saw the Left riot with impunity for a year. They saw the “Handmaids” interrupt the Kavanaugh Hearing. They’d seen Democrats stage sit-ins that interrupted Congressional proceedings. They foolishly thought there was one standard of law in this country. One standard of behavior. I have come to believe that there is not. In general, Democrats are allowed to get away with such crimes, like Nero, while Republicans will be made an example of.

    The people who trespassed or damaged property should have been treated like anyone else who does such things. The Capitol should be protected, not weaponized.

  2. Jan6 committee, Thompson and Cheney lied along with the media and a lot of other leftists on this blog.
    ===
    Capitol Police debunk Jan. 6 panel allegation GOP lawmaker helped rioters surveil complex
    In a blow to Thompson-Cheney committee, Chief J. Thomas Manger wrote there is “no evidence” Rep. Loudermilk did anything wrong on Jan. 5: “We do not consider any of the activities we observed as suspicious.”

    In fact, the chief said, the congressman didn’t even enter the U.S. Capitol with the group.

    Manger’s letter unequivocally cleared Loudermilk, noting his consitutent group of 12 to 15 people never even reached the Capitol and did not even enter the tunnels from the adjacent office buildings. Instead, they visited an exhibit in the Rayburn House Office building.

    “This is what we knew all along. We knew that there was no Republican who led anybody who breached the Capitol on a reconnaissance tour, leading up to January 6,”
    ===

    The Democrat lies and Jan6 Committee lies are unravelling. That is why they needed NBC to produce the hearings and rely on allegations instead of facts, along with repeating selective quotes from the past when today those quotes are invalid.

  3. Whatever Trump’s faults might be his instincts are pretty amazing. I’ve worked many, many elections and the smell of fraud has never as been pronounced as this election. There are things that the RNC should have taken note of and mounted a response to but it’s hard to lay blame upon them for the criminality undertaken by the Left in stuffing the ballot boxes like they did. One thing is clear, in person voting and one day elections are required if we want to have confidence in the elections. Aside from military deployments no one should be allowed to use absentee ballots.

  4. Ok, which of you Trumpists donated money to fund Trump’s Big Rip-off?

    Come on, fess up. No shame. You were duped. Trump raised $250 million. I’m sure a few of you Trumpists here must have fallen for his scam. Turley was right all along- he was a “carnival snake charmer” who conned a lot of people out of their hard-earned money.

    1. Off topic once again. You’re rude and acting like a childish troll.

      1. Major,

        How long do you think you can keep up this BS? You can’t deny the undeniable. Face it. Trumpism is finished.

        1. So you say… but his support remains stronger than ever and improves with every attack you make upon him. In other words, you are your own worst enemy.

          1. Mark,

            “Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.”

            -Voltaire

            That is what it will come to unless you Trumpists stop believing this BULLSH*T!

    2. It’s kind of like our Vice President bailing out the peaceful demonstrators in Portland and Seatle.

        1. “I know there are protests still happening in major cities across the United States, I’m just not seeing the reporting on it that I had for the first few weeks,” Colbert said.

          “That’s right,” Harris replied. “But they’re not gonna stop. They’re not gonna stop, and this is a movement, I’m telling you.”

          “They’re not gonna stop, and everyone beware, because they’re not gonna stop,” she added. “They’re not gonna stop before Election Day in November, and they’re not gonna stop after Election Day.”

          “Everyone should take note of that, on both levels, that they’re not going to let up — and they should not. And we should not,” she concluded.

          https://nypost.com/2021/09/08/bail-fund-backed-by-kamala-harris-freed-man-charged-with-murder/
          https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bail-fund-kamala-harris-thomas-moseley

  5. No wonder Nazi Piglosi , the J6 Star Chamber, Barr, Wray & the rest of the American Hating Trash are acting like a one eyed cat in a room in a old folks home full of people in rocking chairs.

    Too much to post
    But this article I found funny.

    ( go back & look at Fm AG Barr’s words & actions)

    ***********

    Hey, Bill Barr!… BREAKING: Surveillance Video Shows Man Wearing Street Clothes Exiting Passenger Seat of Post Office Truck In Detroit…Dumps Stack of Ballots In Dropbox TWICE! [VIDEO]
    By Patty McMurray
    Published June 13, 2022 at 5:26pm
    Comment

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/06/hey-bill-barr-breaking-surveillance-video-shows-man-wearing-street-clothes-exiting-passenger-seat-post-office-truck-detroit-dumps-stack-ballots-dropbox-twice-video/

    1. “Hey, Bill Barr!… BREAKING: Surveillance Video Shows Man Wearing Street Clothes Exiting Passenger Seat of Post Office Truck In Detroit…Dumps Stack of Ballots In Dropbox TWICE! [VIDEO]
      By Patty McMurray”
      ***************************
      “I thought, boy, if he really believes this stuff, he has lost contact with — he’s become detached from reality.” ~Bill Barr , on Trump questioning the election.

      So who’s out of touch with reality? The guy who beleives the evil Dims will do anything to win or the one who believes a senile old man who never campaigned got the most popular votes in American history? Silly ol’ Trump.

      1. Listen to Barr parse his words in the bottom 33 second video.

        I hear him say if people would only ignore all the other forms of evidence & only focus on the cell phone data by itself it doesn’t prove massive voter fraud.

        What I hear is:

        Barr: Yeah, but back when I was just a young whipper snapper, just knee high to a tadpole, me an ole Wray, we just didn’t have all that fancy pantsy detective stuff like, video cameras, off site voting boxes, finger prints, latex gloves, eyewitnesses, Signature Matching, cars tags. Why hell, we couldn’t even find out who was paying all those pallet loads of “ACME BRICKS” placed at all those RIOT SITES.

        LOL:) I’m going to stop here before I start typing all those locker room type comments because just listening/watching their Sh*t Show is funny enough as it is.

        https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/06/jan-6-hearing-liz-cheney-says-2000-mules-debunked-bill-barr-laughs-movie-questioning-wireless-services-ceo-sets-barr-straight-video/

        1. Our legal and congressional systems are adversarial. Pelosi destroyed that for the January 6th committee. As a result, obvious questions for Barr that would have revealed what evidence he looked at and why he apparently did not consider clear evidence of fraud that was in the public domain.

          1. Kevin McCarthy withdrew the other 3 Republicans he’d nominated. Blame him.
            The Senate Republicans filibustered the creation of a totally bipartisan National Commission. Blame them.

      2. Mespo,

        We have no idea where your headline is from.

        Secondly, if the election was ‘rigged’, why did Democrats lose 10 House seats and barely hold the Senate? One could sat that was a rather short-sighted rigging job. The White House can’t do.much without a friendly congress.

        1. ‘Cause the Commie/Nazi Dim/Rinos were busy MFG’ing 81 Million fraudulent votes to get rid of that b*stard posting all those Mean Tweets.

          & thats why no one was allowed to see the ballots in swing states, Still

      3. Question is, Mespo, which one of you MAGATS donated the most money to START THE STEAL?

        eb

  6. As Lucy said to Ricky, Turley has a lot of ‘splaining to do….

  7. After todays hearing anyone can see why Turley and FOX would be willing to do anything to divert and distract.

    1. It’s devastating to Turley’s academic reputation. I said he would regret selling out to Fox.

    2. Sorry, but everything the Democrats and Joe Biden are doing to harm the people of this country is just so astoundingly awful that nothing they do with their sham show trial will save them from slaughter at the polls come November.

  8. Fox News Decided To Air Part Of Today’s Hearings

    Then Awkwardly Found Itself The Focus

    After declining to broadcast the Jan. 6 committee’s prime time hearing last week, Fox News on Monday broke into its regular daytime programming to feature the latest round of witnesses.

    But those tuning in on Fox experienced a somewhat awkward moment as the focus turned to the network itself and the testimony of a former politics editor there, Chris Stirewalt, who helped with coverage of the 2020 election.

    Mr. Stirewalt, the first witness of the day, described how the Fox News decision desk came to make the pivotal call that President Biden had won Arizona.

    “Our decision desk was the best in the business,” Mr. Stirewalt said. When asked whether former President Donald J. Trump had any basis to declare victory, Mr. Stirewalt answered, “No, not at all.”

    Around 11:20 p.m. on Election Day, Mr. Stirewalt said they were so certain that Mr. Trump could not come from behind and overtake Mr. Biden in Arizona that they were ready to move on to call the next state.

    “We were able to make the call early. We were able to beat the competition,” he said. “We looked around the room, everybody says, ‘Yea’ and on we go.”

    That kind of certainty in the results of the election was at odds with what viewers on Fox would see in the coming days from pro-Trump hosts like Sean Hannity, Tucker Carlson and Laura Ingraham. All three helped give credence to discredited stories about voter fraud in states like Arizona and Pennsylvania.

    Edited From:

    https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/06/13/us/jan-6-hearings-trump

    1. Around 11:20 p.m. on Election Day, Mr. Stirewalt said they were so certain that Mr. Trump could not come from behind and overtake Mr. Biden in Arizona that they were ready to move on to call the next state.

      how does this sworn testimony effect the process of writing Legislation?

    2. They based the call on the number of ballots counted, not the number of legal ballots. If it were legal ballots, Biden likely would have lost.

  9. Worst President, Worst Congress, Worst “First Lady” in history. All traitors, all unworthy of the respect of Americans.
    The polls speak loudly, the children have suffered, Jill Biden is a classless, grifting spouse abuser

    Joe Biden’s Job Approval Plummets to Record Low of 38 Percent

    Post-Lockdown Era: Children Entering Elementary School Unable to Say Own Name – Report

    Jill Biden Brags at Hollywood Fundraiser: After Trump, People Come to Me Saying ‘I Feel Like I Can Breathe’

    1. LOL:) No doubt those Biben’s Hollyweirdo’s are huffling that $10.00 a gal Gas!

  10. I don’t pay any attention whatsoever to the January 6 committee. Why should I? They have absolutely nothing to contribute to society as a whole.

    1. CS,

      I don’t blame you for ignoring the Jan 6 committee. If I was a lying Trumpist, I would ignore it too!

      1. jeffsilberman I would watch HRC & company being prosecuted for devising an entire “Russia Collusion” scheme. Not only was HRC behind it, so was Comey, Schiff, Strozk, Page, Rosenstein, and countless others. This country wasted 2 years and millions of dollars on the “Hillary Hoax”. Please spare me your foolish attempt to call me a “Lying Trumpist”. We know who the liars were. They need to be prosecuted and sent to prison for the rest of their lives. They are the real ones that tried to overthrow the duly elected president. Please don’t try to pee on me and tell me it’s raining.

        1. CS,

          Too bad Turley rejects everything you claim because he is a NeverTrumper like me.

  11. Under normal circumstances, a bipartisan select committee would be expected. This is a very unusual situation:
    • Congress was attacked by a mob, some of whom came prepared to inflict violence upon MoCs
    • Some on the House Republican side were involved in the planning of the Jan 6th “Stop the Steal” event, and thus had glaring conflicts-of-interest toward quashing or redirecting the investigation away from their personal wrongdoing
    • Even the House Majority Leader, Kevin McCarthy, was in contact with the President during the assault (asking him to back down),
    so Mr. McCarthy was a witness, and therefore had no business selecting Committee Members for the Repubs.

    From what I’ve seen so far in the 2 public hearings, Repubs and Democrats are NOT at each other’s throats, either in the Hearings, nor in the depositions. They are coming together to forge a common understanding of what happened leading up the Jan 6th attack.
    A Jim Jordan or Jim Banks on the Select Committee would have made that process impossible. Cheney and Kinzinger are keeping the Dems on the Committee honest and on-task.

    1. had glaring conflicts-of-interest toward quashing or redirecting the investigation away from their personal wrongdoing

      The is no way Republicans could have suppressed any testimony. Republicans would just be there to cross examine witnesses.

      As the article explains, never in 260 years has a one party committee been seated.

      1. It’s not a “one party committee,” liar. Whether you can bring yourself to admit it or not, Cheney and Kinzinger are Republicans. They simply aren’t Trumpists.

        As Fox News noted a year ago, “Rep. Elise Stefanik, the favorite to replace Rep. Liz Cheney as the House GOP conference chair, voted with former President Donald Trump less than Cheney and has lower voting scores from top conservative organizations. According to a tool on the FiveThirtyEight website on ‘Tracking Congress In The Age Of Trump,’ Cheney, R-Wyo., voted with Trump 92.9% of the time compared to 77.7% for Stefanik, R-N.Y.”
        https://www.foxnews.com/politics/cheney-stefanik-republicans-house-votes-trump-conservative

        But you’re not truthful enough to admit it. Apparently for you, only Trumpists can be Republicans.

        1. They were chosen by Democrats. That shows that logic is not your strong point.

          1. Intelligence isn’t yours. That they were nominated by a Democrat doesn’t make it a “one party committee.” And it’s no one’s fault but McCarthy’s that he pulled the other 3 Republicans that he’d nominated.

            1. Yes it does when they choose the one that is already convinced to be on their side.

              The committee is only investigating that portion they want investigated. That is not an investigation.

  12. Today’s assignment from Fox as a diversion against the merits of the Jan 6 committee evidence is to trash Nancy Pelosi and by so doing, backhandedly attack the credibility of the facts that are damning to Trump. In his book “Everything Trump Touches Dies”, Rick Wilson relates that nothing gets the disciples fired up more than Nancy Pelosi and Hillary Clinton, which is why they are used in attack ads and blamed for everything. Republicans even put their pictures in commercials for purely local state political races–because it works. Nancy is even blamed for not marshaling the Capitol Police, something over which she has no control. Hillary has been accused of everything from selling Canadian uranium, to running a child pedophilia ring, to murder and cannabilism.

    Mostly I don’t even bother to spend time to read the details of the trash Turley writes because since he went on the Fox payroll, he’s become nothing but a partisan pundit, not worthy of respect or credibility. A couple of items caught my eye: rehasing Pelosi tearing up the fat one’s vainglorious state of the union speech, which was rife with nothing but lies. The other was refusing Jim Jordan as a committee member. Turley just says that McCarthy’s choices were rejected, but he doesn’t say it’s because they are rabidly pro-Trump. There is no way any sort of valid evaluation of Jan 6th could be conducted with these fools on the dais, and Jordan, it turns out, was directly involved in Jan 6th. Turley doesn’t mention that either. His job was to trash the credibility of the Jan 6th Committee. Turley claims that “countervailing evidence” was edited out by “powerful” media experts. The Committee consulted with an experienced media producer to ensure the smooth presentation of evidence, which is what audiences today are used to. The only “countervailing evidence” he refers to is the offhand remark to march “peacefully”, but, as we are learning, the invasion was planned long before the fat one took the podium. The Proud Boys and Oath Keepers were surveilling the Capitol in the morning of Jan 6th, and they had a cache of weapons ready in a hotel in Virginia, waiting for the command of their dear leader to go in. The war room for the planning of the insurrection was at the Willard Hotel. The “peacefully” comment was thrown in for no reason other than to provide cover–to give Hannity and Turley comething to complain about.

    None of Turley’s paid criticisms change the fundamental fact that Trump knew he lost because everyone in his orbit other than Giuliani told him so, he rejected this, and tried everything to bully his way back into power, including litigation, demanding that local election officials “find” him votes that didn’t exist (which is called “fraud”), pressuring Mike Pence, going on “Stop the Steal” rallies, and planning an insurrection to force Congress to reject Biden’s victory.

    What Turley and Republicans fail to grasp about Trump is the big picture. Trump does not belong in the company of Washington, Lincoln, FDR, JFK, Reagan, the Bushes or even Nixon, who did the right thing when his ambition to win got the better of him. Trump was, and has always been, unfit to be a US President. He is a chronic liar, flashy self-promoter who is, in truth, a failed businessman, someone who wanted the presidency for vainglorious reasons, not for patriotic ones, and he will always put is ego first and foremost. He doesn’t even understand the basics of American government. He wanted the power and the glory, and still does, but everything he touches turns to manure because his ego and the fact that the fake image of a successful self-made billionaire don’t match his skill set, which mostly consists of self-promotion. He took a successful economy and turned it into a recession, with the country mostly shut down for about 2 years, kids unable to attend school, and unnecessary deaths due to his downplaying and lying about the pandemic. He started a trade war with China, which has resulted in shortages of consumer goods, causing higher prices, which fuels inflation. He caused a record deficit due to tax breaks mostly benefitting the ultra-wealty. The interest payments on the debt alone are contributing to inflation, for which Republicans are trying to blame Biden. He trashed the EU and NATO, which emboldened Putin into believing that the US was so alienated from our allies in NATO that he could just take over Ukraine without much problem. Biden was handed a plateful of problems due to Trump’s incompetence. Trump continues to divide America, refuses to honor the will of the American people, and simply won’t shut up and go away, which is what all prior Presidents have done when they are out of office. What gets me is that alt-right media and Republicans seem to think that Congress should just ignore the invasion of out Capitol, not invesigate it (because they know what Trump did was illegal), or if it’s investigated, to have one of their pundits there to downplay or conceal the facts. Americans are tuning in in record numbers to hear the truth.

    1. You don’t bother to read “the trash Turley writes” but feel obligated to come here to write your trash. Got it. You’re just a troll.

    2. What a waste of comment space. Blah, blah, blah. Same thing all the time.

    3. Natacha says that Turley’s job

      “was to trash the credibility of the Jan 6th Committee. Turley claims that “countervailing evidence” was edited out by “powerful” media experts.”

      Be that as it may, Turley DOES stand foursquare behind Barr’s integrity and his testimony is the MOST damning of all!Turley’s unequivocal support of Barr must enrage Trumpists, but most won’t give us the satisfaction of expressing their rage on this forum. They don’t want to acknowledge what they now suspect- Turley is part of the “Deep State” after all.

    4. Did you know when Hershel Walker wins the Georgia senate race against Warnock, the Republicans will have more Black senators than Democrats? Imagine that.

      1. I think what I imagine is that the only person who would bring this up so quickly is a backroom flak from fox or a right wing talking point mill.

        eb

        1. Just stating the facts. Sorry that your guy ‘Bidin’ time’ is now more unpopular than Trump was at the same time in his presidency. We have Ultra Maga and the Great MAGA King. You have….Joey from Scranton.

    5. Natacha, Don’t you think Adam Kinzinger’s face looks like the face on one of those dried apple dolls? He does, right?

  13. Big Lie Became Fundraising Bonanza For Super Pac Controlled By Trump

    It wasn’t just the “big lie,” according to the Jan. 6 committee. It was also “the big rip-off.”

    In a video presentation that concluded its second hearing, the committee described how Mr. Trump and his campaign aides used baseless claims of election fraud to convince the president’s supporters to send millions of dollars to something called the “Election Defense Fund.” According to the committee, Mr. Trump’s supporters donated $100 million in the first week after the election, apparently in the hopes that their money would help the president fight to overturn the results.

    But a committee investigator said there is no evidence that such a fund ever existed. Instead, millions of dollars flowed into a super PAC that the president set up on Nov. 9, just days after the election. According to the committee, that PAC sent $1 million to a charitable foundation run by Mark Meadows, his former chief of staff, and another $1 million to a political group that is run by several of his former staff members, including Stephen Miller, the architect of Mr. Trump’s immigration agenda.

    Edited From:

    https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/06/13/us/jan-6-hearings-trump

  14. Jonathan: Your column provides an echo chamber for Fox’s false claim that the Jan.6 Committee’s hearings are “illegitimate”. You blame Nancy Pelosi because she did not provide for a “balanced membership” on the Committee. So maybe a review of the facts is in order.

    Shortly after Jan. 6 the House began discussion on an investigation of Jan. 6 and its causes. House members proposed a bipartisan commission similar to the 9/11 commission. That proposal was shot down by GOP Senators. That’s the point when bipartisanship went out the window. So the House decided to appoint its own select committee. The GOP House leadership resisted. They wanted an investigation to focus only on the violence and property damage. They didn’t want any investigation of Trump’s role in planning and carrying out the insurrection. The House resolution provided for 13 members of the Select Committee–5 selected by Kevin McCarthy. Pelosi approved 3 selected by McCarthy but refused Trump supporters Jim Banks and Jim Jordan who continued to back Trump’s false claims the election was “stolen”. McCarthy then retracted all his selectees. The RNC then filed a lawsuit claiming the Jan. 6 Committee was not “bipartisan” and improperly constituted. On May 1, 2021 US District Judge Timothy Kelly, a Trump appointee, ruled against all the RNC claims. The House is still controlled by the Dems. That means the Speaker is entitled to appoint members of select committees. It happened when the GOP was in control of the House. If the GOP takes back control in November do you think the GOP Majority Leader will act differently than Pelosi?

    George Mason, your hero among the Founders, said that members of Congress “are not only legislators but they possess inquisitorial powers”. You may not like the “inquisitorial powers” of the Jan. 6 Committee but your claim Pelosi’s decisions were a “signature muscle play” doesn’t pass the laugh test!

  15. Recall Kyle Rittenhouse & the Commie Dims/Antif/BLM Pedos attack on the 3rd night in Kenosha?

    Recall it came out later the FBI was watching everything unfold with saved videos, drones, facial recognition software, etc.?

    Same thing again likely at J6 2021.

    Anyway, nothing but moving the deck chairs on the Titanic as the Wallst/City London & assorted Globalist Banking trash crashes our nations financial system, our savings, pension plans & poisons the gen pop with mRNA.

    Interest Times! LOL;)

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    One of the 4 attacks on Tulsa by Commie Dim Riot 6/19/2020

    https://www.newson6.com/story/5f1b97b0a717d00d80c3e8d3/district-attorney-explains-decision-to-not-pursue-charges-against-truck-driver-

    1. The same trolls are out in force this afternoon spewing the same lies. Don’t feed the trolls.

  16. Pelosi didn’t bail, McCarthy did.

    Do you actually expect us to forget this, Turley? My God.

    Side note: the 1/6 Committee laying the groundwork for wire fraud for fundraising off of the *known* big lie…, an interesting side branch of that would be the same investigatory eye turned toward the Republican party and your employers at fox. Big day at the Committee hearings.

    Eb

    1. Eb,

      Boy, it’s fun watching the Trumpists flail!

      All they have to do is admit that they were duped by a charlatan, and we will forgive them. However, if they persist in these lies, they will be left holding the bag as more and more Republicans jump ship hoping to salvage their reputations and careers.

      Sadly, Turley is in league with Carlson, Hannity, Ingraham and all the other liars at Fox. When Turley eventually bails, his CV conspicuously will omit his tenure at Fox.

      1. Jeff:

        So, what you’re saying is, that you no longer “stand with Turley”?

        Also, you promised that you would leave the blog forever if Jonathan Turley ever used the words “deep state.” Someone provided you with multiple examples, and yet here you are.

        Are you not a man of your word?

          1. Do you understand the difference between global warming, ‘global warming, and “global warming” or x=y, y=x?

            You don’t seem to have a grip on reality.

        1. Karen,

          You don’t have the facts correct on the “deep state” controversy. I said I would depart if and only if Turley actually believed in the deep state, that is, WITHOUT stating *deep state* within quotation marks which are meant to indicate that he does NOT believe in a deep state himself.

          As NeverTrumpers, I stand with Turley, but I deplore his decision to sell-out his principles to be a contributor with the propaganda network Fox News. There are more honorable ways to earn a living than to lend credibility to liars Carlson, Hannity or Ingraham by appearing on their shoes. Turley would never appear alongside Alex Jones no matter what he was paid. Like most in his social milieu and academic circle, Fox and Infowars are held in roughly the same contempt. Turley will eventually depart from Fox, but the stench of his association will follow him out the door. One day, he might publicly express his regret for working there as others have done who have fled the network.

        2. “Are you not a man of your word?”

          Silverman is a leftist ,so expecting him to keep to his word is like believing a con artist. He uses words for his own ends and that means he creates the definitions for the words he uses and changes the definitions at will. He isn’t honest.

  17. OT

    The right to keep and bear arms is absolute.

    American citizens of legal age and age of majority, have the absolute right to keep and bear arms, sufficient to the task of opposing the arms of a State army, in other words, the same arms as those of a State army, as referenced, verbatim, in the very 2nd Amendment itself.
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    2nd Amendment

    A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

    1. George, public safety takes priority over unfettered individual freedom….thus we don’t allow society to be dominated by the criminal element (the ultimate libertarian zealots).

      Many of are looking at children being killed in schools, and are recognizing that they, their parents, the teachers, and family members are NOT living in a free state. The most precious things were taken from them without due process. What about the freedom to live free from fear of execution at the hands of crazed zealots with firearms?

      Do you understand that definition of freedom?

      1. Please cite the Constitution for your position.

        The Constitution may be amended through its prescribed process.

        Statutory law prohibits homicide and provides for the public safety.

        People in America who shoot and kill others are criminals committing crimes.

        You, incoherently and irrationally, support criminals and the crimes they commit when you absolve them and assign blame to the instrument they choose.

        43,000 highway deaths occur annually by accident and you don’t blame cars and suggest a ban on cars.

        99.9% of Americans who avail themselves of their constitutional right to keep and bear arms never commit crimes.

        The 2nd Amendment admonishes Americans to keep and bear arms, arms sufficient to oppose the military arms of a State, and to join a militia when the security of a free State is wagered.

  18. THE CONSTITUTION CANNOT PRODUCE A COMMUNIST STATE, BUT IT HAS

    “Justice should not only be done, but should manifestly and undoubtedly be seen to be done.”

    – The Lord Chief Justice of England, Lord Gordon Hewart
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    “…courts…must…declare all acts contrary to the manifest tenor of the Constitution void.”

    “…men…do…what their powers do not authorize, [and] what they forbid.”

    “[A] limited Constitution … can be preserved in practice no other way than through the medium of courts of justice, whose duty it must be to declare all acts contrary to the manifest tenor of the Constitution void. Without this, all the reservations of particular rights or privileges would amount to nothing … To deny this would be to affirm … that men acting by virtue of powers may do not only what their powers do not authorize, but what they forbid.”

    – Alexander Hamilton
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    Since the unconstitutional denial of fully constitutional secession, the prosecution of a wholly unconstitutional war, not of common defense, but of Northern aggression, the suspension of habeas corpus, the denial of the freedom of speech, thought and press, the brutal physical abuse and illegal imprisonment of political opponents, the confiscation of private property, and the deliberate refusal to enforce immigration law and failure to execute the duties of the office of the president, America has suffered the incremental imposition of the principles of the Communist Manifesto. Karl Marx congratulated Abraham Lincoln for his efforts toward “…the RECONSTRUCTION of a social world.” https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/iwma/documents/1864/lincoln-letter.htm

    The entire communistic American welfare state is unconstitutional including, but not limited to, matriculation affirmative action, grade-inflation affirmative action, employment affirmative action, quotas, welfare, food stamps, minimum wage, rent control, social services, forced busing, public housing, utility subsidies, WIC, SNAP, TANF, HAMP, HARP, TARP, HHS, HUD, Agriculture, Commerce, Education, Labor, Energy, Obamacare, Social Security, Social Security Disability, Social Security Supplemental Income, Medicare, Medicaid, “Fair Housing” laws, “Non-Discrimination” laws, etc.

    Article 1, Section 8, provides Congress the power to tax ONLY for “…general Welfare…,” omitting and, thereby, excluding any power to tax for individual welfare, specific welfare, particular welfare, favor or charity. The same article provides Congress the power to regulate ONLY money, the “flow” of commerce, and land and naval Forces. Additionally, the 5th Amendment right to private property is not qualified by the Constitution and is, therefore, absolute, allowing Congress no power to claim or exercise dominion over private property, the sole exception being the power to “take” private property for public use.

    Government exists, under the Constitution and Bill of Rights, to provide maximal freedom to individuals while it is severely limited and restricted to merely facilitating that maximal freedom of individuals through the provision of security and infrastructure only.
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    “But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.”

    – Declaration of Independence, 1776

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