We have previously discussed how activism in the media and corporations has triggered increasing public backlash. Social agendas have undermined trust and profits, but the pressure to pursue those goals remains high regardless of their cost. The same appears to be true for higher education. Universities and colleges have been criticized for purging their ranks of conservative or dissenting faculty while creating environments of political orthodoxy and viewpoint intolerance. A Gallup poll shows the result of years of erosion in viewpoint tolerance with only 36% of polled Americans saying that they have confidence in the country’s colleges and universities. That is a sharp decline from 2018 when almost half trusted our colleges and universities.
Not surprisingly, the greatest drop was among Republicans who face increasingly hostile environments on campuses and cancel campaigns for conservative or libertarian speakers. Republicans with either a “great deal” or “quite a lot of confidence” in higher education dropped from 37% to 19%. The poll suggests a growing view of colleges and universities as hostile environments for those with conservative, libertarian, and dissenting views.
At the same time, many are simply rejecting higher education as an option due to a mix of high costs and lower relevancy for them personally. The view of campuses as places of indoctrination also likely plays a role in that trend. Few conservatives relish the idea of paying high tuition to have their children spend four years with unrelenting attacks on their views and values while limiting their own speech opportunities.
The same view is growing among donors. The ideological intolerance has led donors to pull their support from schools like, most recently, the University of Arizona.
This trend has worsened as our faculties have become less ideologically diverse, except to the extent that they reflect a diverse spectrum running from the left to the far left.
For example, a new survey conducted by the Harvard Crimson shows that more than three-quarters of Harvard Arts and Sciences and School of Engineering and Applied Sciences faculty respondents identify as “liberal” or “very liberal.” Only 2.5% identified as “conservative,” and only 0.4% as “very conservative.” That is replicated in other schools like a recent poll at MIT, which found only a small percentage (if any) of faculty self-identify as Republican or conservative.
That is in comparison to a Gallup poll that found that “roughly equal proportions of U.S. adults identified as conservative (36%) and moderate (35%).” Only 26% identified as liberal.
What is striking is that none of this matters to individual administrators and faculty members. There are still powerful personal and professional incentives to reinforce this orthodoxy on campuses. More importantly, there are costs to speaking out against such agendas or supporting colleagues who have been targeted by cancel campaigns.
The result is that, as with many in the media and corporate settings, academics continue to saw at the branch upon which we all sit.
Me and my wife went to college in the mid 70s in California, but had issues with out sons in middle and HS school in the late 90s and early 2000s in Northern VA. We had issues with the teachers, the admin, and the school board with how they were taught and we ended up tutoring each of them to teach them properly. When then each graduated HS they decided on different Trade Schools and it work out better then college. The cost were less then half a year of college, they each make over 6 figures, have houses, cars, and careers that will not go away.
The college systems have moved to the left and have added fees and costs that were not there when me and my wife went to college. Many courses also have been moved left so if the student does not respond in papers as such they will be marked down. Also they have added useless degrees that do not get jobs. This leads to left leaning colleges being problems for more and more people.
Well done!
Way to lower student debt and stop this insanity:
1. Year round school. Summers off is a holdover to a 19th century agrarian society.
2. Students should end their high school education by 14.
3. These students cannot go to college so convert high school to handle the 1st 2-3 years of college dealing with the Gen Ed and advanced sciences and math.
4. If a student opts for technical or trade, handle trade schools.
5. If a student wants a university track – they can take introductory courses to that discipline. I am sure that there are several in proximity of the “high school” , if not can interact with community colleges to support this activity
6. NONE OF THIS should cost any more money than that supplied by the current tax base.
7. Universities adapt to concentrating ENTIRELY ON THE DISICPLINE.
At this point, a student that opts for a university degree will only have to pay for 1-2 years.
8. Make political beliefs a protected class. Yes that would include unsavory beliefs, but frankly, I want to see the communists, fascists, and KKK ideologues in plain view, instead of hiding under cover of suppression.
9. Stop the safe spaces and stop brining in Counselors just because someone wrote “TRUMP” on a sidewalk. Happened at Towson. They actually had a police investigation.
For the Universities:
Deal with them like you do medicaid and medicare. Only pay what is considered FAIR. For example Drexel charges 1000/semester hour for a post grad degree. NO. No more than 400 / hour for under, 500/post grad 600 Phd.
Universities will make the student pay the excess, but when their enrollments drop, they will lower their price.
This will require getting rid of all the DEI and force reasonable wages. The President of Morgan State – according to the Maryland payroll list (it is public record, not a secret), makes 605,000 a year. A lecturer makes around 80,000. They need lecturers more than they need a president. Do a research on senior admin in state schools, their pay is a matter of public record. If a man earns 605,000 by creating a business and hiring people, I have no problem with that. But that much money at the taxpayers expense, I have an issue with that.
Heres a simple way to help end this debate over skin color and education. End liberal arts education and degrees. A college and or university education should never have been made easy. A lot of the people in debt up to their ears with student loans have worthless expensive Liberal arts degrees. End those worthless degree programs and the content of your character and achievements will matter again not some goofy skin color question!
Von,
“End liberal arts education and degrees. A college and or university education should never have been made easy. A lot of the people in debt up to their ears with student loans have worthless expensive Liberal arts degrees. End those worthless degree programs and the content of your character and achievements will matter again not some goofy skin color question!”
There is merit to getting rid of “Gender Studies” (etc Studies programs), but not English, History, Classics, Philosophy, Art History and the like. These are not worthless degrees. A fair number of CEOs have History degrees. Victor Davis Hanson is no slouch with his degree in Classics. Once upon a time those degrees did have a content of your character focus (re: Antigone, Othello, Cicero, Booker T. Washington, etc) before they got hijacked. These programs are not easy if done right. They aren’t rigorous the way Engineering or Physics might be, but when done well they are rigorous in the development of one’s spirit, humanity, understanding of the human condition. There are plenty of engineers and computer scientists that would do well to gain some insight in this arena.
Jonathan: Back on 7/623 you posted a column applauding US District Judge Terry Doughty, a Trump appointee in Louisiana, for granting a preliminary injunction to prevent Biden administration officials from communicating with social media companies over misinformation being spread by right-wing sources about Covid-19 and other issues. You deemed what the Biden administration was doing was a “massive attack” on the free speech rights of conservatives and amounted to censorship. In his ruling Doughty agreed.
The DOJ appealed and the 5th Circuit Court of Appeals has just put a stay on Doughty’s injunction. The 5th Circuit 3-judge panel was unanimous in their ruling–one judge appointed by Clinton, one by Obama and a Trump appointee. No date has been set for oral arguments on the appeal. But for the time being Biden administration can freely communicate with social media platforms re misinformation and disinformation that may violate the platform’s terms of service.
The 5th Circuit has previously slapped down Doughty’s on some of his other erroneous rulings so we will have to watch this case closely. So, as they say in law school, don’t count all your chickens until they are hatched!
You should follow your 1st Grade advice. Learn to read. They didn’t slap anything down, they put a temporary stay until it could be heard by the entire circuit with an expedited review. I am shocked that a lawyer would agree to the government using surrogates to infringe speech. That door could result in government hiring ‘surrogate” law enforcement or judges to do what they can’t. Do you want a bunch of brown shirts to act as the governments “hatchet men”? Unlike most lawyers, I have had a real job in the business realm, and I have witnessed the government using business (large ones) to suppress speech and dissent. That is why companies look at your “posts” and make hiring and firing decisions based on your beliefs. Government can’t deprive you of property without due process, but businesses can and do. It is time this government be slapped down by the courts. Otherwise it might get slapped down by the people by force and no sane person, not even the government wants a war with the American people. They just might lose it an all of them end up face down in a ditch with a bullet in the back of their brains. And if the People “win”, they will end up with another dictatorship as bad or worse.
Unless you are studying a learn a licensed trade, such as accounting or engineering or pharmacy or nursing, college can be easily replaced with a library card.
ridgeland — I beg to differ.
Interact with a large group of people who scored about the same on their SATs, half who graduated from college with a degree not directly related to a trade and half who did not attend college. You will not be able to tell the difference.
Frank Zappa once said “Go to college if you want to get laid. Go to a library if you want an education”.
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This is timely:
https://www.foxnews.com/media/benefactor-pulls-six-figure-donation-arizona-state-university-citing-left-wing-hostility-activism
Jonathan: Now if we want to cite polls about the lack of confidence by Americans in certain institutions, like universities, why not also cite the polls showing the lack of confidence in the Supreme Court? Last year the same Gallop pollster found the public had “hardly any” trust in the Court–a record 36%! Another poll by Hart Research Associates this April found 70% of Americans want an investigation of the continuing ethics scandals inside the Court.
Now we all know about Justice Thomas’ ethics problems. Rolling Stone is now reporting it has found other “Undisclosed Freebies” Thomas has received. It appears Thomas has had a long and financially fruitful relationship with the Horatio Alger Association of Distinguished Americans (HAADA). Thomas and his wife have been feted by HAADA to luxurious vacations, parties and access to sports events by wealthy benefactors–like billionaire industrialist Dennis Washington and investor David Sokol. These generous gifts were on top of the largesse over 20 years by GOP megadonor Harlan Crowe who prides himself on his large collection of Nazi memorabilia and Hitler paintings. In his early years on the Court Thomas reported such gifts but after 2004 he stopped reporting them on his financial disclosure statements. We now know why.
All other federal judges have stringent ethics rules. So too with the legislative and executive branches. But not the Supreme Court. It makes up its own rules as it goes along and we could drive a truck through all the exceptions it makes for itself. The Supreme Court, it appears, can now be bought and sold to the highest bidder–at least when it comes to Clarence Thomas and Sam Alito, two of the most ardent conservatives on the Court. But it appears the loss of confidence in the Court is something that is not on your radar. Why is that?
It runs both ways, if you want, I can provide more information-Some of the justices also reported receiving outside income, including Sotomayor, who noted on her forms that she was paid nearly $150,000 in book royalties from Penguin Random House. Sotomayor has published a number of children’s books through the years, including one that was released in 2022.
Several of the justices also reported income from teaching gigs, including Gorsuch, who received nearly $30,000 from George Mason University; Kavanaugh, who was paid nearly $30,000 from GMU’s Antonin Scalia Law School; and Barrett, who received just under $30,000 from Notre Dame Law School.
Roberts reported rental income from properties he owns in Maine and Knocklong, Ireland, while Sotomayor reported rental income from property she owns in New York.
Kagan also reported rental income, albeit from a much smaller property – a parking space in a Washington, DC, building.
It’s not just Thomas, runs both ways, if you want more information let me know-Some of the justices also reported receiving outside income, including Sotomayor, who noted on her forms that she was paid nearly $150,000 in book royalties from Penguin Random House. Sotomayor has published a number of children’s books through the years, including one that was released in 2022.
Several of the justices also reported income from teaching gigs, including Gorsuch, who received nearly $30,000 from George Mason University; Kavanaugh, who was paid nearly $30,000 from GMU’s Antonin Scalia Law School; and Barrett, who received just under $30,000 from Notre Dame Law School.
Roberts reported rental income from properties he owns in Maine and Knocklong, Ireland, while Sotomayor reported rental income from property she owns in New York.
Kagan also reported rental income, albeit from a much smaller property – a parking space in a Washington, DC, building.
Gerald Budd: There is a big difference between the largesse bestowed on Clarence Thomas and the other Justices you cite.. They, at least, reported their outside income. Thomas didn’t report any of the gifts he received from, for example, Harlan Crow. That’s why his judicial ethics has been compromised.
Thomas followed the protocols.
Iowan2: What “protocols? Thomas said he consulted with other Justices and others on the federal bench. Thomas doesn’t say who he consulted. Are these the “protocols” you are referring to? Thomas says all the gifts he received from his long time friend, Harlan Crow, were just “personal hospitality”. What about the house Crow bought for Thomas’ mother to live in? Or Crow’s donating much of the budget of a political group founded by Thomas’ wife–who got paid a salary of $120,000? Or what about Crow paying the tuition for one of Thomas’ relatives? Don’t you think all these gifts stretch the meaning of “personal hospitality” beyond recognition? Richard Painter thinks so. He was the former chief WH ethics lawyer under George w Bush. Painter says any WH official who failed to report the type of gifts Crow bestowed on Thomas would be fired!
Dennis, this is the norm within the Supreme Court, demonstrated by the actions of other Supreme Court Judges on the right and the left. Thomas did nothing different, but because he is on the right and is black, racists and others have never ceased attacking him.
“What “protocols?”
There are protocols though anyone can argue that more or less protocols are required. That was a childish statement and demonstrates ignorance.
The most important protocol not breached is that Thomas’ friendship is not involved in any case Thomas was involved with.
You seem to demonstrate forgetfulness for anyone whose ideology you agree with, but if they are on the right and Black, you pounce no matter how honest the person has been. That is a form of racism, but maybe with black persons, you don’t recognize the “protocols” of racism.
I see the dim dems have gone back 20 years, SUDDENLY, to complain about the already long established rules, but of course this is just because they no longer have their SCOTUS majority lock.
It never bothered them at all, for 2 decades, while they wielded power, everything was completely kosher.
I see also they go back to 2008 and a fishing trip, when 6 years later in 2014 an obviously unexpected case came up that “was related”, but the vote is said to be 7 to 1 with the “ethics violator” voting with the majority, so another idiotic red herring.
It’s all another big pile of lies and hypocrisy from the dim demoncrats, now liars and before all is well when they called the shots and their partisans sucked up al the candy – which of course no one will investigate, because the demoncrats cover up for their own and the republicans know it’s all hogwash.
S. Meyer: I was addressing Iowan2 not you. He can speak for himself. But since you barged in on the conversation I will address some of your false claims. First, there are no “protocols” for SC Justices. They each get to decide for themselves when, for example, to recuse because of ethical conflicts. In Ward v. Thompson last year Arizona GOP officials tried to block the Jan. 6 Committee from getting access to their phone records relating to the 2020 election. Thomas’ wife Ginni was working directly with Arizona GOP officials to try to overturn the election. Yet, Clarence Thomas refused to recuse himself from the case and dissented along with Sam Alito. There are other instances in which Thomas refused to recuse in cases where he had ethical conflicts. If Thomas were an ordinary federal judge he would have been required to recuse himself.
Second, I don’t understand what you mean by “‘protocols’ of racism”. Do you really think I oppose Thomas because he is “on the right and Black”? Trotting out the race card is a ruse because you have nothing else to support your non-sensical arguments. Yes, I oppose Thomas on many levels but his race has nothing to do with it. I oppose Sam Alito as well because he thinks he can push a religious agenda from the high Court–not because he is White. Got that straight now?
I supported the nomination Katanji Brown Jackson because I thought another liberal justice would bring more balance to the Court. It really had nothing to do with her race. But, I admit, it was a bonus. Now did you oppose Brown Jackson’s appointment.? If you did was it based on her race? Be honest. Some of the pretty open racists on this blog thought another Black on the Court was too much. Do you share their views?
“S. Meyer: I was addressing Iowan2 not you. “
Too bad. You are not bashful about off-topic remarks insulting Turley, so you open yourself to target practice.
There are protocols, ethical guidelines, and procedures for the Court, but, mostly, it is up to the Justice to adhere to them. There are also procedural guidelines that you are unaware of.
“Thomas’ wife Ginni was working directly with Arizona GOP “
There was no need for Thomas to recuse himself. Are you continuously attacking him because he is a conservative? Or worse, a highly educated black man, or are you more offended by his marriage to a white woman? He has gone off your plantation, and slave owners never looked favorably on that.
“I oppose Sam Alito as well because he thinks he can push a religious agenda from the high Court–not because he is White.”
You are a very biased person filled with misinformation and lacking knowledge. For all I know, with your special type of racist attitude, you have you might be against Alito because not only is he conservative, but he is Italian. Maybe you don’t like Catholics. You certainly don’t stand for the ethical and moral standards of good practicing Catholics.
“I supported the nomination Katanji Brown Jackson because I thought another liberal justice would bring more balance to the Court. “
You supported a woman who doesn’t even know what a woman is. I’m sure you supported RBG, but though liberal, she was intelligent. Yet you wish to think Jackson is another RBG.
“Some of the pretty open racists on this blog thought another Black on the Court was too much. Do you share their views?”
It’s pretty clear where I stand. I am a classical liberal/ libertarian/ and in some ways, a conservative. I don’t care about your personal issues or what you were born with. I care about what a person has to offer. Jackson had very little. Clarence Thomas, a lot, though your friends put him through the wringer.
I hesitate to tell you my favorite living person because it will cause rage in you, racist or otherwise, but it is Thomas Sowell. He is black, and not only does he write on social and political issues, but he also wrote about different cultures.
“But since you barged in on the conversation . . .”
It is a *public* comments section. If you don’t like people “barging,” perhaps you’d be more comfortable elsewhere.
Do you think Sotomayor’s shakedown of schools to pay for her books was unethical?
https://www.npr.org/2023/07/11/1187005372/sonia-sotomayor-supreme-court-staff-book-sales-signings-memoir
As to the author, I wish he knew University of Arizona is not the same as Arizona State University. He’s got to get out and see flyover country once in a while. He might find out that ASU is the largest public university in the country.
Yes, it’s an inexcusable error, as most states have both a “University of ___” and ” ___ State University”.
However, ASU is NOT the largest public university by a long shot… try Univ of Texas or Ohio State, or UC system.
@Dennis — I really think you’d be happier to just get your own damned blog and leave this one be.
You’re like a damn toy dog, left in a parked car, yapping and yipping at everything that passes by but totally impotent to do a thing about it.
Leave. Now. You won’t be missed. I promise.
Chris P. Bacon: I know you would be happier if I had my own blog. I have thought about it because I know I would immediately have at least 2 million followers. But that would require way to much time. So I would prefer to stay on Turley’s blog and play the role of a gadfly. You know, a person who interferes with the status quo by posing unsettling questions–usually directed at those, like you, who think they have all the answers. Socrates coined the phrase “gadfly” and it has stuck ever since. So, like Socrates, I was put on this blog by the Gods to pose the Qs you apparently have not thought about. But I derive some satisfaction knowing you at least read my comments. For that I am grateful.
2 million followers? Sure you would. So sure. If you had that kind of following, and you had anything actually intelligent to say, you could make a very nice living if you had that many followers and the ability to grow…
Those accusations are nothing burgers. The left is butt hurt that Trump was able to put three people on the court. The real point in your comment is how sad is it that people disapprove of our Supreme Court actually following the Constitution. That ties into the article and shows how utterly worthless college education has become.
failed your homework. You have to look at all the SCOTUS folks. Check your “Wise latina” largesse. Makes Thomas look like he’s on EBT-SNAP benefits. Do homework. It makes for a better grade and a better mind.
It should be broken down major, I doubt many have lost faith in engineering. The sad part, medicine and education would probably lead the decline. Lawyers and “studies” majors probably declined slightly, because people had a low opinion to begin with.
The question is whether there is a path back to the Socratic ideal as the predominant pattern of productive exchange. There are conservatives who have forsaken that ideal, and become warlike in their thinking. If militants on the right were to somehow wrest control over campuses, their mindset would be to censor, denounce and cancel those they perceive as challenging their power.
Only an open-minded, intellectually-modest, inquisitive, independent-thinking group — doggedly and tenaciously sticking to principle — can hope to marginalize militancy as unacceptably-intolerant. To even stand a chance, this group would have to dissociate itself equally from strident, closed-minded voices on both political extremes. We would have to stand for open, respectful, questioning and persuasive styles of communication — meaning we’d have to come down pretty hard on ad hominem argumentation, oppo-branding, doxxing, anonymous intimidation — even sloganeering designed to shame and curtail debate — all the snarky techniques of militants.
This is a daunting challenge. For, the militants of the world honed specific modes of communication well-suited to social media — designed to bully and intimidate dissenting viewpoints. These have worked, though only if “worked” means spreading fear among one’s opponents of standing up to speak the truth. In the broader context, militant tactics have brought intellectual and social progress to a standstill. So, how do we moderates ever convince militants that their tactics are counter-productive, since a fearful polity is not a creative one?
How do we teach intellectual modesty to those who have placed their bets with rigid self-righteousness?
I believe we have to start with young children, and socialize them to learn advanced modes of thought and conversation, putting aside childish (inborn) patterns of ego-centric, tribalistic impulsiveness. A freshman class with highly advanced skills of elocution and high-standards of objective truth-seeking would shame the faculty into conforming.
There are conservatives who have forsaken that ideal, and become warlike in their thinking. If militants on the right were to somehow wrest control over campuses, their mindset would be to censor, denounce and cancel those they perceive as challenging their power.
You can probably find a few outliers on the right that fit the above description, but for the most part it is entirely false, in fact it is just the opposite of the truth. I’ve spent years with conservatives in and out of higher education and high-school education, and exceedingly few are like that. In fact the modern movement to return to a classical curriculum which encourages that kind of back-and-forth of ideas is being led by those on the right. And as for the current state of affairs in higher education, conservatives lack anywhere near enough power to even put that kind of thing into practice, so it seems to me you are just speculating based off of nothing.
Oldmanfromkansas,
Perhaps in Kansas. That is not my experience with conservatives where I live. Too many are not interested in academic inquiry or knowledge. Not sure what they are conserving because it isn’t a classical curriculum. All I hear about are sports. Conservatives around here are not Hillsdale conservatives who could tell you why students should have a classical and Great Works education. They seem to let the administration put into place a WEF digital 4.0 Industrial revolution education. It is in all the schools around me because no one questions the curriculum and what sort of education students are receiving and where it leads.
I’m talking about the northeast and mid-Atlantic states.
Oldmanfromkansas,
“I’m talking about the northeast and mid-Atlantic states.”
Then I pray it spreads inland.
The educational system has been high jacked by multiculturalists more concerned about race, sex, sexual preferences, ethnicity an d host of other issue to numerous to mention here. These multiculturalists reject tradition values, accepted law, work ethics, yet they embrace antisocial behavior (crime, violence, drugs), cult membership (woke), self indulgence, and least but not last a Socialist Nirvana Dream of a Rose Petal highway to the future. America is at risk with these educators at the controls, they must be rejected.
“The educational system has been high jacked by technocrats and corporatists”, too.
“Reality has a liberal bias.”
I posted that.
Reality actually has a conservative bias. That’s why the young and inexperienced tend to be liberal, whereas people who have been around long enough to understand reality at a more nuanced level tend to be conservative.
From what I can tell liberalism is entirely idealistic. Liberals hold in their imagination some idealistic Eden-like fantasy about how reality SHOULD be. Not how it is. So they put the country $30 trillion in debt building a massive bureaucracy to try to create a new reality.
Believing “reality has a liberal bias” is bizarre considering the whole point of liberalism is a hatred or reality as it is and thus why they promote perpetual change.
“Reality has a liberal bias” says the clowns that tell us men can dress as women and then “chest feed” babies. The same people that tell us the border is secure. The same people that tell us that Biden is sharp and he is good to go for another 6 years. The same people that tell is that math is racist, not wanting your 5 year old told he can pick his gender is homophobic and not wanting a bearded person in a locker room with your daughter is transphobic.
Yup, the liberals sure do a great job dealing with reality.
Hullbobby, none of that is actually liberal; the word has been appropriated by certain of the ignoranti.
However, I did read an account of a man who encountered a babe n the arms of a dead woman, smallpox. He was in fact able to nurse the infant until he could travel the many miles to a town where there was a wet nurse. Ah, the wiild west of yore…
Hullbobby, big boobs,. Nice a$$, yep, thats my dad.
Jonathan: No one should be surprised by the latest Gallop poll which showed a stark disparity between Republicans and Democrats views of higher education. 59% of Democrats view it favorably while only 37% of Republicans have the same view. Gallop doesn’t explain this disparity but they speculate the drop-off in support is due to “the rising costs of postsecondary education”. Gallop is probably right.
A college education these days averages about $36,000 per yr. At Harvard and other elite institutions the cost is about $54,000 per year. So, except for the wealthy, most American families can’t afford a university education for their children. So students with the grades and aptitude have to resort to predatory lending institutions to finance their education. That’s why the Biden administration is trying to address the growing student loan crisis.
So what is to be done? I will repeat what I have urged in previous comments. A university education should be free for those who qualify. Most advanced economies view college as an investment in the future. The challenges of science and technology competition worldwide these days demand an educated workforce. So most advanced economies devote a substantial part of their budgets to public education. We don’t and that’s why we are falling behind and have to provide special visas for those with advanced degrees so they can provide the talent we need.
That said, you want to blame the education crisis on the “increasingly hostile environments on campuses and cancel campaigns for conservative or libertarian speakers.” You claim universities have become places of “indoctrination” where “faculties have become less ideologically diverse, except to the extent that they reflect a diverse spectrum running from left to the far left”. That’s a cop out.
If all this is true (which I dispute) what will happen if conservatives refuse to send their children to get a university education? Probably a self fulfilling prophesy in which universities turn out mostly liberal or progressive graduates. That, indeed, would be sawing off the branch of conservative self interest. If I were a conservative or libertarian I would want my kids to get a university education in order to compete in the marketplace of ideas.
Unfortunately for you, studies show Gen Z students are selecting schools in a state that aligns with their political views. Conservative students avoid states like California and NY. Liberal students won’t attend schools in the South or where states are controlled by the Republicans–especially where abortion is banned. This may partially explain why liberals (both students and faculty) tend to predominate at universities in certain states. It’s not because, as you claim, conservative faculty are forced out or are not selected. Even where conservatives dominate the state, like in Florida, 91% of prospective college students there oppose the right-wing education policies of Gov. DeSantis. If you conservatives want to appeal to Gen Z you are going to have to come up better ideas and policies than banning abortion and books–or opposing cancelling the burden of student loans!
like in Florida, 91% of prospective college students there oppose the right-wing education
This is the what the left considers insightful thinking.
Making conclusions from a group of 17 year olds.
Dumb ass.
“. . . cancelling the burden of student loans!”
And of home loans. And car, personal, and business loans. And credit card and medical debt.
If we’re going to have cannibalism, let’s go whole hog.
@UpstateFarmer
“I dont think reform is possible”. Why so?
Where will the $ come from for new colleges and universities?
What would be that time frame of availability?
Who will decide the ‘values of the students’?
Who will monitor those implementation of values?
How will we know that having 2 parallel systems will actually induce “free market” forces? There are many examples of government agency redundancy with no added efficiency.
Woke has been here since at least Karl Marx. Is ignoring it likely to deliver less ‘entrenchment’?
Not clear on the divorce comment. It sounds very definite but what is the goal of the divorce and how will we know when we have achieved it?
Great pick-up!!!!!!!
Note the comment mentions ““Top 5 most stressed-out U.S. cities…”. If you treat Alabama as a ‘city’ in the comment, that would make 6. Do you think the author meant ‘Birmingham, Alabama’ to be the city and not Alabama? Very confusing, right?
OMG, as if to demonstrate that the nit-picking class in colleges does serve a purpose?
I think the term “woke” is a misnomer re: the Left, liberals, progressives. To me they’re more comatose…….shutting-out other points of view.
And often they’re shocked and appalled to find there ARE other points of view, to quote the great Bill Buckley.
“Public Confidence in Higher Education Plunges” The plunge may be new but the ‘problem’ is not. The ‘problem’ has been present for decades and the ‘liberal’ academic types that saw the problem hatched and nurtured mostly either looked the other way or converted. Either way, their ball-less approach to a decades old problem they witnessed first hand is only now coming to the full attention of the “public”.
Be warned by these circumstances, America. These ‘liberal intellectual’ types have let you down. Do you think that it is a coincidence that the management of COVID was nothing short of a disaster that caused more harm than good? That kind of behavior is what you get when you build an echo chamber and fill it with sycophants.
And you fool yourself if you think the ‘problem’ is not real or only restricted to colleges and universities. The products of those colleges and universities, now and for a long time, walk among us. Their thought patterns fermented in those echo chambers and now impact us in every walk of life whether it be in the military, the government, your healthcare provider, your lawyer, etc. You are NOT seeing some giant conspiracy theory or similar at play, you are seeing manifest incompetence which easily lends itself to manipulation by any power hungry con man.
Be afraid America. The public elementary and high schools have long been failing the majority of kids. Now the kids that survive that gauntlet are paying dearly to be reduced to dupes.
And the real danger of the scenario laid out above? Keep in mind one phrase: ‘Stupid people don’t know they are stupid.’ And since the products of those colleges and universities have been trained that all thought in the echo chamber is dogma and not to question it or tolerate opposing views, they mindlessly vomit back on YOU the teachings of the dupers via policies and laws.