After the initiation of the Biden impeachment inquiry, new messages are deepening concerns over the influence of Chinese figures on the Biden family. Messages from longtime Biden associate Fran Person show the Chinese stepping in to support Hunter’s lavish lifestyle as funds dried up during his divorce. Person wrote Hunter that Chinese businessman Bo Zhang “will help you with what you need.”
Fran Person was not just a close aide to Joe Biden for years, but someone that the First Lady Jill Biden described as a member of the family: “Fran has been like a son to Joe and me. For eight years, we traveled the country, shared holidays together … Fran may be leaving the office, but he will always be a part of our family.”
Fran left the staff of Joe Biden and went to work with Chinese figures . . . and Hunter.
In a July 2017 WhatsApp message, Person told Hunter that Zhang was aware that he was in financial distress during his divorce and would cover his costs. Hunter sounds desperate for the Chinese support as he gushes money to fund his lavish lifestyle: “100K at least gets me until next month.”
Person assures him that Zhang has his back: “He will help you with what you need.”
Fox News Digital reported on Person’s messages. They include this assurance:
“I talked to Bo previously about the 37K – he didn’t flinch. I will talk to him about 56K and possibly 100K. It really depends on his liquid assets in the US…I will ask. His only problem is getting large sums out of China (especially right now).”
Hunter appears in distress and presses Person if he knew whether anything was wired or if they were in a “holding pattern.”
Person responds “No holding pattern…he was on his way to the bank this morning. He will be in touch when it’s confirmed.”
“He will help you with what you need. He also mentioned that you should take a trip to China some time this month to just get away for a week or so…just decompress.”
Hunter later schedules the trip.
The concern is that Hunter was receiving money from figures closely associated with foreign governments and foreign intelligence agencies, including the CCP. These operatives often look for people who are in desperate situations to exercise influence over them. Hunter Biden’s massive spending and addictions would have been a draw for intelligence services. He offered an obvious entry into potential influence or access with regard to Joe Biden.
At one point, Hunter offers in July 2017 to have Zhang at his father’s McLean home after Joe Biden left the vice presidency.
Zhang met repeatedly with Hunter Biden, Person, and Eric Schwerin.
Person’s message shows him showering Hunter with praise and promises of Chinese funds. In one message, Person told Hunter that he
“selfishly want[s] to work” with him “because I know what the hell your capable of, AND I want to learn from you. I’m putting myself out there right now, and I’m learning quickly. But I’d love to be there with you doing some of this stuff. I mention the 500K on 10M raise be I’m about to get started on that, and I could really use your help. We could knock it out together. I’d think that’d help take some bite out, and you wouldn’t feel like your ‘resorting’ to anything…I’ve got one loyalty brother. That’s to my family. Your family.”
Person is obviously going to be busy during this impeachment inquiry. Despite President Biden’s repeated denials that anyone in his family received any money from China, The Washington Post and other media outlets have found those denials to be false.
Indeed, at least two transfers of funds to Hunter Biden in 2019 from a Chinese source listed the President’s home in Delaware where Hunter sometimes lived and conducted business.
The latest messages reveal how Hunter Biden’s personal and financial distress may have been viewed as an opportunity for foreign interests. Hunter suggests that he was existing month to month on such payments. The question is what he did in return for such foreign generosity in what is clearly an influencing peddling operation.
Jonathan
Today I am forced to repeat my calls for paid subscriptions. I think this mornings little show, dare I say it, speaks for itself.
And right on cue, here is Dennis the paid troll, again sharing his lies and half truths, to the detriment of all.
He won’t answer for why Raskin sent in the Waterboy, instead of his All-American middle linebacker, to start the game. Guess Raskin didn’t get Denny’s memo on football strategy.
Dennis (played by Switowski)—“Will you teach me to football?”
Turley (played by Caretaker)—“Sure, just don’t eat me!”
Sorry, posted without signing in (pita).
Yesterday one of our typical leftist jerks provided some words from the left-wing news media about what Trump said of General Milley. Both the jerk and the news media distorted what was said. Their intent was to create a lie. Here is the quote from an article that further explains the truth. When one hears comments about Trump from the left they are meant to create myths to make people not vote for Trump and have convinced a good number of intelligent people. Those people need to refer to the Truth, and unless they see the quote in context should disregard it.
“Next, is Trump lying about Milley’s untoward outreach to our most formidable enemy, China? Doesn’t the cognitive elite’s bête orange deserve acknowledgement that he conditioned his comments with “if the Fake News reporting [on the 2021 book Peril by progressive Dems’ journalistic saint Bob Woodward, and their trusty tribune, Robert Cost of The Washington Post] is correct”? Or is his sin the phrase “fake news,” a widespread, bipartisan estimate of our politicized media?”
https://www.frontpagemag.com/trump-derangement-syndrome-infects-the-journal/?utm_source=FrontPage+Magazine&utm_campaign=068aae0faf-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2023_10_03_04_10&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_57e32c1dad-068aae0faf-%5BLIST_EMAIL_ID%5D&mc_cid=068aae0faf&mc_eid=aad02e7205
They will put stuff in quotes that aren’t quotes, as well, Meyer. So people shouldn’t buy that either. Dig deeper, the truth is out there.
They “quoted” Devon Archer as saying “illusion of access”, when he NEVER said that. Those were Dan Own Goal Goldman’s words.
Bug boy is still scouring the transcript, trying to find it.
Devon Archer said “illusion of access” on p. 131 of the transcript. You lie.
Alan,
Here’s what John Kelly says about Trump’s attitude towards our military. No one but a Putin-loving traitor thinks Trump is a ‘real American’.
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/4235005-john-kelly-confirms-trumps-suckers-remark-about-war-dead/
BugAnon- The people fitting your description of “Putin-hating traitors” would come to over 74 million Americans, judging by the 2020 Presidential vote. This supports the comment by Upstate Farmer at 1:21 pm, quoting Victor David Hanson.
Edward, YOU are Upstate Farmer.
No, I am actually Vladimir Putin. Спасибо
“Trump’s heinous sin, according to the editors, is saying “that Gen. Mark Milley, the nation’s highest military officer, deserves execution—as in death. He said NBC should be investigated for treason and that the FBI should raid the homes of Senate Democrats. Then he accused President Biden of being manipulated by ‘the Fascists in the White House.’”
Now listen to what Trump actually said about Milley as quoted by the Journal: “‘This guy turned out to be a Woke train wreck who, if the Fake News reporting is correct, was actually dealing with China to give them a heads up on the thinking of the President of the United States. This is an act so egregious that, in times gone by, the punishment would have been DEATH! [emphasis added].’” That’s more nuanced than saying Milley “deserves execution.”
Read carefully, one wonders why the editorial would provide its own refutation. Take “Woke train wreck.” Has the Journal forgotten that in testimony before the House Armed Services Committee, Milley argued for bringing critical race theory propaganda into the military academies and the armed forces’ training programs?
Again with the Russians®™?
The 1980’s called; they want their foreign policy back.
This was what Woodward alleged that General Milley said.
Woodward alleged treason.
Treason is punishable by death or other such punishment as a court-martial may direct.
Jonathan: Dribble, dribble, dribble. Guilt by association. That’s what your column is about. Now it’s about WhatsApp 2017 exchanges between Hunter Biden and Fran Person. So what do they show?
Bo Zang provided financial help for Hunter at a time he was a drug addict and was going through an expensive divorce. He obviously needed money. But it’s a stretch to imply Hunter was “receiving money from figures closely associated with foreign governments and foreign intelligence agencies, including the CCP”. Any evidence Bo was being controlled by the CCP? Nope. Just insinuation by implying Hunter was being controlled or influenced by the Chinese government.
The bottom line is that none of this shows Joe Biden was involved or received any part of the money transfers. Your claim that bribery could be a basis for an article of impeachment requires proof Joe Biden received some of the proceeds from the loans to Hunter. And remember, in 2017 Joe Biden was a private citizen. Bribery requires evidence a public official received something of value to influence public acts. Even if Joe, as a private citizen, indirectly received some benefit from the loans that can’t be bribery under the federal criminal statute.
Now you cite a CNN report re the wire transfers that you suggest means Bo’s largesse “may have been viewed as an opportunity for foreign interests”. “May” doesn’t establish any of what you claim. But the CNN report also states: “The wires allegedly were addressed to Hunter Biden when his father was not in office and do not prove that Joe Biden received any of the money”.
In response to your and the MAGA Republicans allegations about Hunter and his dad, Abbe Lowell, Hunter’s attorney, has pushed back: “This was a documented loan (not a distribution or pay-out) that was wired from a private individual to his [Hunter’s] new bank account which listed the address on his driver’s license, his parent’s address, because it was his only permanent address at the time. We expect more occasions where the Republicans claims twist the truth to mislead people to promote their fantasy political agenda”.
So far, it’s all about what private citizens did to further their financial needs or interests. But neither you nor the MAGA Republicans have shown evidence to prove Joe Biden, as VP or as a private citizen, received any money from his son’s business dealings. All you have is continuing insinuation and innuendo. It’s guilt by dribble, dribble insinuation and innuendo. That’s not the basis for a legitimate “impeachment inquiry”.
“It’s guilt…”
Every now and then there is a nugget of truth in McInlyre’s comments. Thanks for admitting it, Dennis.
“This was a documented loan”
Lets see the document and it’s notarized date, Abby. Is that the “Abby” from Young Frankenstein? Abbynormal
For instance, a “documented loan” would include terms for repayment. Lets see the amortization schedule and payment due dates.
“Indirectly received some benefit from the loans that can’t be bribery”
Wrong-o again, Denny boy. The “loans” (you know, the ones that have never been paid back) werent to Joe, and he wasn’t responsible to pay them back, then its a benefit to Joe.
Man, its like talking to a 3rd grader.
Better check that statute, Denny. I don’t think it says you have to collect the bribe while still in office.
Somebody pass the phenergan, I am getting dizzy from all of Denny’s twisting and twirling.
I warned you about Fran Person, Denny, days ago when you had NO IDEA who he was. You haven’t heard the last of him, either. By the way….THAT is insinuation/innuendo, since you obviously don’t know the meaning.
“Just insinuation by implying
HunterJoe was being controlled or influenced by the Chinese government.”Thats the insinuation, dum dum. We KNOW that hunter was.
“We all do better when China does better”—Joe Biden, speaking to G7, apparently about his whole family.
“The bottom line is that none of this shows a video of Joe Biden involved or receiving any part of the money transfers”
Fixed that for ya, willful blind boy
“Guilt by association”
Precisely, Dennis!!! Thank You!!
Now, what is the association? Father to son. No. That relationship is too dyfunctional to even cover here.
Godfather to bag man??? Why YES!! Thanks for playing, Denny.
If you want to say that a jury should not convict based solely on this evidence, I would agree with you.
There is far more than enough evidence to establish probable cause. Only probable cause is needed for an inquiry, which may or may not turn up anything else.
General Grant after the battle of Champion’s Hill took possession of what appeared to be a vacant house but found it full of dying and wounded Confederate casualties from the Battle of Jackson, Mississippi. In his memories he wrote something that could be pertinent to the political war that is currently consuming America.
“While a battle is raging one can see his enemy mowed down by the thousands, or the ten thousand, with great composure; but after the battle these scenes are distressing, and one is naturally disposed to do as much to alleviate the suffering of an enemy as a friend”
I only quote this passage to possibly assuage those that carry ill-temper towards their political rivals.
Grant obviously not a democrat…just sayin’
Grant obviously not a democrat…
Congratulation George W for praising someone on the Union side. We can all honor the men who fought on both sides, whatever the politics.
There are many voices from the Left/Democratic party, but seldom do I hear anything but a treble sound, shrill screams of deceit and obfuscation. As the casualties’ mount in this current Political War reason has taken a backseat in the leftist party, throwing their fodder to their minions in hopes they will share, [it wasn’t me it was you who’s the caused this mess] all the while asking for reprieve from their sins. Once the sane recapture the narrative I will do as the Bible instructs and turn the other cheek. God help us All!
Off topic. The party of stupid has struck again. McCarthys out. Talk about a bunch of clowns. If I can’t beat the dims I might just as well join them. Someone, please slap me. This isn’t a dream its a nightmare. Talk about a bunch of low mentality wackk jobs. We’re screwed. Independent Bob.
And Turley is a democrat and believes in free speech, you Trump cultists will believe in anything.
Douche alert!!! Bug face the demented lawn boy trolls again!vvvvvv
Trump is an awful person.
John Kelly, the longest-serving White House chief of staff for Donald Trump, offered his harshest criticism yet of the former president in an exclusive statement to CNN.
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“What can I add that has not already been said?” Kelly said, when asked if he wanted to weigh in on his former boss in light of recent comments made by other former Trump officials. “A person that thinks those who defend their country in uniform, or are shot down or seriously wounded in combat, or spend years being tortured as POWs are all ‘suckers’ because ‘there is nothing in it for them.’ A person that did not want to be seen in the presence of military amputees because ‘it doesn’t look good for me.’ A person who demonstrated open contempt for a Gold Star family – for all Gold Star families – on TV during the 2016 campaign, and rants that our most precious heroes who gave their lives in America’s defense are ‘losers’ and wouldn’t visit their graves in France. “A person who is not truthful regarding his position on the protection of unborn life, on women, on minorities, on evangelical Christians, on Jews, on working men and women,” Kelly continued. “A person that has no idea what America stands for and has no idea what America is all about. A person who cavalierly suggests that a selfless warrior who has served his country for 40 years in peacetime and war should lose his life for treason – in expectation that someone will take action. A person who admires autocrats and murderous dictators. A person that has nothing but contempt for our democratic institutions, our Constitution, and the rule of law. “There is nothing more that can be said,” Kelly concluded. “God help us.”
https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/02/politics/john-kelly-donald-trump-us-service-members-veterans/index.html
The lying continues above. Here is a report that actually includes the words spoken by Trump which proves the fellow above a liar for a second time.
https://www.frontpagemag.com/trump-derangement-syndrome-infects-the-journal/?utm_source=FrontPage+Magazine&utm_campaign=068aae0faf-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2023_10_03_04_10&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_57e32c1dad-068aae0faf-%5BLIST_EMAIL_ID%5D&mc_cid=068aae0faf&mc_eid=aad02e7205
Trump’s heinous sin, according to the editors, is saying “that Gen. Mark Milley, the nation’s highest military officer, deserves execution—as in death. He said NBC should be investigated for treason and that the FBI should raid the homes of Senate Democrats. Then he accused President Biden of being manipulated by ‘the Fascists in the White House.’”
Now listen to what Trump actually said about Milley as quoted by the Journal: “‘This guy turned out to be a Woke train wreck who, if the Fake News reporting is correct, was actually dealing with China to give them a heads up on the thinking of the President of the United States. This is an act so egregious that, in times gone by, the punishment would have been DEATH! [emphasis added].’” That’s more nuanced than saying Milley “deserves execution.”
Read carefully, one wonders why the editorial would provide its own refutation. Take “Woke train wreck.” Has the Journal forgotten that in testimony before the House Armed Services Committee, Milley argued for bringing critical race theory propaganda into the military academies and the armed forces’ training programs?
Kelly’s comment wasn’t about Milley.
Why should one have to read anonymous comments that are contemptuous? Each time they are proven wrong, and then the writer runs away. Why waste the time?
One of my longtime Usenet allies wrote this.
https://forum.pafoa.org/showthread.php?t=379970&page=13&p=4515785#post4515785
Bug-Anon – If you have any facts regardng the “influence peddling schemes” of Trump and his children, why don’t you communicte them to the Chuck Schumer and the other Demos who control the Senate, so they can investigate them?
window to crimes Hunter was committing and communication with Joe.
http://www.hereshunter.com
the REAL criminals are the DOJ, FBI, IRS, etc WHO PROTECT the Bidens, Clintons, Obamas, Pelosis, etc!
100k to get though to the next month? That is more than I make in a year! And I actually do something! Not just occupying space as an imaginary expert of energy on a board. Does make one wonder, what grift will the BCF do once Joe is out of office?
Upstate – The same phrase caught my eye. Hunter was burning through over $1m per year. How could his father not know of his lifestyle? Where did Joe think the money was coming from?
in 2013 VP Joe took 40 year old Hunter and his sister to CHINA…to ACCEPT MONEY!
That is Documented!
I knew at the TIME…an adult child going to China with a VP was a CRIME…it was obvious then and is obvious NOW!
Really? You do realize that this is exactly what Republicans constantly support. Low taxes for the rich, ya know, job creators and all that.
That’s what Trump’s family does in fact quite a few families rely on their “brand” to just make money because of the influence they can exert. The idle rich are republicans favorite donors.
100k likely tax free. He hasn’t been charged for that, statute of limitations has likely not expired.
Remains to be seen as to how big a hammer will be necessary to drive this nail, if ever.
Jared Kushner was in deep financial trouble before trump got in office. He was on the hook for nearly a billion dollars on a building he owned. He couldn’t get funds to pay the upcoming balloon payment until the Saudis chose to help him. Sound familiar? When Trump made him an “advisor”. The Saudis poured money into his projects and Trump’s Washington DC hotel.
Then kashoggi gets murdered by the Saudi crown prince. Jared came in to the rescue and kept the scrutiny at bay. His reward? $2 billion for an investment firms Kushner created despite the fact that he has no investment experience. Now Trump is bragging his property in Florida is worth $1.5 billion because the Saudis could buy it at that price.
🤔 Trump has been benefiting from the Saudis thru Kushner. According to Turley that’s an impeachable offense. Crazy huh?
If memory serves, it was Qatar that bailed Jared out on the 666 Fifth Ave. Jared was leading a blockade against Qatar in his vague foreign policy role in the Trump administration while his ex-con father participitated in negotiations. Qatar for their part claimed afterward to have no idea Jared Kushner was involved in the $1,1 Billion transaction. The blockade was lifted after Jared got the money.
https://www.justsecurity.org/69094/timeline-on-jared-kushner-qatar-666-fifth-avenue-and-white-house-policy/
Enigma, and this doesn’t raise suspicion among the “concerned” republicans about corruption? 🤦♂️
enigma – the last sentence of the article you cite says: “Axios reports that House Democrats are considering an investigation into the Kushner’s August 2018 deal with Brookfield that bailed out 666 Fifth Avenue.” That was written in March 2020. If the Demos, who then controlled the House, thought there was fire beneath the smoke, why did they not investigate?
I suspect part of the problem was the refusal of foreign entities to cooperate and the reluctance of the Justice Department to pursue Trump family crime which they didn’t really do until the House Select Community kept demonstrating criminal behavior in televised hearings.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/oct/13/jared-kushner-qatar-property-deal-ron-wyden-senate
Enig, you talk from two sides of your mouth. The Democrats wee not reluctant to pursue the Trump family after he descended the escalator.
You write anything that suits your argument even though all your arguments conflict with one another and too frequently are fanciful.
@Anonymous….”Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump”. Trump is NOT the President, and whataboutism’s don’t plead a case for Biden, et al. Democrats won’t admit they’ve been cuckold until they are proved by being photographed sleeping in bed along their significant other and its lover. This is the last I will respond to any contributor under the screen name ‘Anonymous’. Adopt a screen name which can be followed if you care to be so bold as to swim in this pool.
How many SAR’s does the Treasury have against any of the Trump Sphere ? I think zero is a smaller number than >100
Ah the tried and true orange man bad defense.
Garland’s been AG for years. He has had time to declare parents at schoolboard meeting domestic terrorists, but not enough time to entertain the crime you speak of.
And? Why do I care who the Bidens meet with when he is just some normal citizen of Delaware? Also, China is a major player in the world economy, a holder of a massive amount of US debt, and we are dependent on them for a large amount of our consumer goods. China also has no history of military aggression outside of their immediate surroundings. Treating them like the boogieman is counterproductive.
100K + Americans are ODing every year, a majority of these deaths are by Chinese Fentanyl. The Chinese are at war with us. And they do use direct military aggression towards us.
Why? Because you are not very bright. And have you not been reading about the China aggression towards Taiwan, including military aircraft into Taiwan airspace, naval exercises? What about their Chinese police stations inside the US? The FBI raided the one in NYC and shut it down.
Provide an example then.
You take orders from an con man with orange makeup.
“China also has no history of military aggression outside of their immediate surroundings. Treating them like the boogieman is counterproductive.”
To be an apologist for the kleptocratic Biden family is *somewhat* understandable. But to be one for a dictatorship — a tyrannical government that brutally oppresses its own people and agitates for world domination — that is truly wicked.
Drip….Drip…..Drip….Drip….the Biden Center (or whatever they called the UD and UP operations) was just a twist on the Clinton Foundation where the Biden’s cult out the middle man and just drew straight from the Source….in far too many cases Chinese Sources tied to the CCP and Chinese Intelligence Organizations.
Each day or couple of days….yet more fuel is added to the Dumpster Fire that is the Biden Crime Family.
Inflation Reduction Act or whatever lie they call it seems to be helping Chinese business with the “green” energy (as in greenbacks) subsidies for electric everything they make in China.
The only asset the Biden Irish crime family have is “pop’s” access to power / office. Why he had to run for President. His leaving office caused him to be of little to no value monetarily to any foreign government. No office = no money for the crime family. This is a treasonous family putting their access to foreign money before the good / welfare of our own country.
Spirit1776,
good point.
Cue the evidence deniers and the whataboutism peddlers.
Turley thinks his readers are too obtuse to realize that in July 2017, when this message was sent – Trump was President, Pence was Vice President and Joe Biden was merely a private citizen who had not announced any plans to run for anything again.
So this is a whole lotta smoke and mirrors. Dishonest spin on Turley’s part.
You believe Chinese businessmen, with zero prior relationship with Bidens sent them $millions for no reason.
The Trump Corporation has been found guilty of crimes and Trump was called out personally throughout the trial.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/06/politics/trump-organization-fraud-trial-verdict/index.html
As I write, Trump is in a New York courtroom glaring at witnesses testifying against him, today his accountant, tomorrow his controller and the CFO who already served five months for doing Trump’s bidding. Not to mention the 91 pending criminal charges.
What’s that sound? I think it’s another person flipping against Trump, yet somehow you protest he isn’t a criminal. He’s whining he didn’t get a jury trial in New York when he didn’t check the box requesting one.
717.5 Years
https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2023/08/16/trumps-total-charges-could-result-in-more-than-700-years-in-prison/?sh=17b80f684e96
I only answered your question as to how much time he faced. I personally don’t think he’ll serve a day in jail with the possible exception in Georgia. I believe Biden will pardon Trump and Georgia Republicans will do backflips to change their pardon process to do the same there.
https://medium.com/the-polis/the-inevitable-pardon-of-donald-trump-411d280c00d7
I do hold out hope that he’ll have to sell off his assets to pay his fines/bills and have to depend on the kindness of foreign friends, living out the rest of his life elsewhere, somewhere where he can’t get McDonalds.
Brainless or hysterical, maybe both.
“he didn’t check the box requesting one.”—repeated by every gullible libtard marxist on the planet
Show us the form, you lying douchebag. And maybe stop getting your info from the likes of Teen Vogue.
You won’t post the form , because there was no such box. If you really think the 6th and 7th amendment rights come down to a box you check, you really are an utter moron, and there is no hope for you.
My guess is that Trumps lawyers know that this will all be thrown out on appeal, and letting the biased democrat pedophile judge make erroneous decisions and conclusions will only speed the demise of the states case. Checkmate dumba$$es.
Thanks for playing.
Hunter RECEIVED MONEY from China?
Tony Bobulinski MET with Joe…why?
Joe has been conveniently using Hunter to market his “Biden Brand” for years. Air Force Two is always better than Cessna One !!
Obama was the shot caller of the Biden Irish crime family during his administration. He gave Joe the portfolio of the countries linked to payments to the Bidens family down to the grandchildren, and signed off on the passenger manifests and flights in AF2 up to his last day in office = all crooked roads lead to Obama in this global influence racket.
Professor Turley, you are apparently haunting the minds of some Biden apologists. They must wait with baited breath so as to quickly attempt diffusing anything you might pose. They have high opinions of their own opinions and seem to not actually have time to completely read what you have written. Seems to be a cottage industry- their attention proves your effectiveness!
Biden brothers did the SAME!
The entire Biden family have taken BRIBES…ashely, james, hunter, joe and his hoe, Frank and James