Last night, many of us responded to the statement of Leon Panetta, former CIA Director in the Obama Administration, that he “has no regrets” about signing the now infamous letter of 51 former intelligence officials suggesting that the Hunter Biden laptop was Russian disinformation. Even more unsettling were his comments that he believes it could still be Russian disinformation. It turns out that even with American intelligence, the media, and Hunter Biden himself acknowledging authenticity, it can still be Russian disinformation. Panetta has become the personification of the economic theory of path dependence. No matter how much countervailing evidence is presented to Panetta, he still refuses to accept the authenticity of the laptop.
In his interview on “Special Report,” Panetta was asked by Bret Baier if he had any regrets about signing the letter, which was then used by Joe Biden in the debate to avoid answering questions about influence peddling by his family (and a virtual blackout of coverage before the election).
Panetta insisted that he had no regrets and then added that he has seen no intelligence that would make him change his mind.
“You don’t think it was real?” Baier asked him.
Panetta responded “I think disinformation is involved here.”
This was the man in charge of our CIA.
Panetta simply refused to acknowledge (1) American intelligence quickly debunked the claim and said that there was no evidence of Russian disinformation behind the laptop, (2) the emails contained in the laptop were quickly authenticated by the other parties, (3) the FBI authenticated the laptop, (4) Hunter Biden has since sued over the use of his laptop, and (5) the media has independently authenticated the laptop.
It has also been shown that the Biden campaign and associates coordinated the letter.
It was then used by an enabling media as an excuse not to investigate or report on the contents. What is striking is that Panetta can not cite any basis to believe that it was Russian disinformation. The laptop details an influence peddling scheme by a family that has long been known for such corruption. More importantly, there was not a single fact cited in the letter (or now years later) that supported this claim. It was simply embarrassing to the Bidens before a close presidential election.
However, in order to admit to these facts, Panetta would have had to admit that he was a willing or unwitting dupe of the campaign. It is easier to simply continue to claim that this could all be the invention of the Russians. Yet, Panetta is still sought for his advice on other intelligence matters as he continues to repeat disproven claims because the truth is simply too costly on a personal level to acknowledge.
What do we call false claims that are repeated despite being repeatedly debunked and disproven? Oh, yea, disinformation.
The only reason Panetta gets any face or air time is because the Right gives it to him. Now how stupid is that?
‘Panetta has become the personification of the economic theory of path dependence. No matter how much countervailing evidence is presented to Panetta, he still refuses to accept the authenticity of the laptop.’
And unfortunately, that applies broadly regarding a great many things to nearly our entire left-leaning voter base. If we didn’t have our first amendment, we’d already be toast. Protect the 1st and 2nd at all cost.
weird how when Democrat lie they are Heroes and when Democrats LIE about a Republican…the Republican GOES TO JAIL!
I want EVERY Single person involved in the Russian Hoax JAILEd…by the HUNDRES
Hillary’s team worked with a foriegn spy and a Russian who WORKED with the top democrats across government to USE the Russian Hoax to overthrow and harass TRUMP!
Biggest Crime in American History!
maybe the GOP should DEFUND the 100% Corrupt for Democrats: US Colleges, DOJ, FBI, Dc Judges, CDC, DNI, etc
TAKE AWAY THE MONEY!
Amen
That is the key to success, but the squabbling rinos can’t even vote in a Speaker, how would you propose to get all those old rinos to give up their cushy situations?
Matt Gaetz, that’s his plan.
The demoncrats and maxwell smart are fighting the (K) CHAOS.
What Panetta said last night appears consistent with what he said at the end of July — see linked article below. I wonder if JT knows about this.
https://www.foxnews.com/media/leon-panetta-says-doesnt-regret-signing-infamous-letter-implying-hunter-biden-laptop-russian-disinfo
Sounds like Leon is a consistent liar at least.
Laughing at the public, living in a state of impunity. Tar & 🪶 comes to mind.
If we actually left the punishment of these maledictive miscreants to public approval we would descend to the “thumbs up – thumbs down” anarchy of the Roman coliseums at the end of the Roman Empire – but since we are almost to that stage now – why not?
It’s either a case of mental illness in the form of delusion or it is a case of “how much is he being paid” to continue the charade? There is no reason to search for either logic or honesty when it comes to anyone with a D next to their name.
He was and is a liar. He’s not deluded. They all knew better.
The entire premise was a joke on it’s face, from day one. Panetta is and has been tied tight to hillary and her weirdo Podesta the pedo and was in on it from moment one.
Another of many russia russia russia lies:
Assange already told us his leak was the murdered Seth Rich, without directly word for word saying it yet making it clear, and with a bounty.
A brit something or other gov guy ferried the USB stick and somehow got it to wiki or to whomever got it to wiki. His testimony is public.
Our top “codebreaker” and NSA master who designed the spying program that protected Americans and was cheap as dirt (it was taken over by corrupt NSA paymasters and turned into megabillions with no safeties for US Citizens), William Binney, along with his group of experts analyzed the data breach and know it was not a cyber hack but a direct usb hands on load because the of tracers and speed in the logs.
Anyone with a modicum of tech experience can confirm this, including myself.
When the opposition has been whipping your butts relentlessly and now control near every lever, it’s long past time to keep pretending they aren’t liars and thus criminals and traitors, especially when the facts are stunningly clear and their lies are laughably false.
I suppose vastly rich or very connected individuals keep their words parsed with doubt to protect from lawfare so congratulations.
He, and the rest, lied to support the rule of the oligarchy. They are anti-democratic. It’s really pretty simple. The intelligence apparatus have been involved in election interference in this country for decades.
It is more than the intelligence apparatus, it was the media/education industry that paved the way for such an American-hating obama to be swept into office on a cloud of false vapor. How else do you get a communist raised foreigner into our white house without the mob push based on misinformation, indoctrination and grifting?
To hide their involvement with Iran they are saying “there is no hard proof that Iran was involved with the attack”. When it comes to Joe Biden’s OBVIOUS involvement with his crooked kids businesses they say, “there is no direct evidence of Joe being involved”. Remember Hilary and “what difference does it make at this time” comment?
When you are a Democrat you need more than a smoking gun, you need the miscreant to be actually doing damage to the party and then, and only then, will they jettison the Democrat. They were going to dump Governor Northum in VA until they discovered that he would end up being replaced by a Republican…and then it was over. They were able to dump Al Franken because he would be replaced by a …Democrat, and he was harming the party.
They hung on to Ted Kennedy when he drove drunk, killed a girl, swam away and hid until he sobered up…because he could still win in MA. They dumped Cuomo when he became toxic because they could put a puppet Democrat in office.
Biden was beginning to bleed out politically and we started to see some movement to get him the heck out of there, but id fizzled out and now the timing is to complicated. But trust me, if he falls again or if he says or does something so egregious they will get him out through an indictment or some other intelligence leak that will force him to abandon ship in order to get his pardon from Kamala.
Nothing will ever change until people like Panetta are eradicated form society in no uncertain terms. After the upcoming resolution, a new form of government will be devised where liars will be instantly punished and prison will only be a seldom used option.
Does anyone wonder why Hunter Biden hangs out so close to his Dad? How many 50+ ‘kids’ do this? Is it because they can’t trust him out on his own?
The evidence was in at least a year before the ridiculous statement was issued and which he knew was false. “ Panetta simply refused to acknowledge (1) American intelligence quickly debunked the claim and said that there was no evidence of Russian disinformation behind the laptop,”
What is striking is that Panetta can not cite any basis to believe that it was Russian disinformation.
New video was just released in which Panetta clarified his remarks:
What I said is that it has all the hallmarks of Russian disinformation. That’s true. Last week I traveled to Russia and walked down 35 halls with doors leading to offices where they had clerks writing propaganda. Note, that was a statistically significant sample. Anyways, so I photographed the marks on the walls of those halls. Then I compared them the scratches on the back of the laptop. What did I find? Many of the marks on the back of the laptop were straight-line scratches, which was also true of the hallways in Russia. So it turns out I was telling the truth after all.
Now that the above explanation has been provided, the whole issue is based on a friendly misunderstanding and we should credit Panetta with being an honest person.
I’m sold!
The fact is that it appears
Following the word ‘fact’ with a qualifier. yep she did that
perhaps the laptop that HB said had been stolen
At least she didn’t include the word ‘fact’ with the qualifier
and appears to contain hacked content, and we have no idea
double qualifier to wrap it up.
Must of forgot to include facts. maybe next time?
i2: Good points. You’ve shown that, yet again, they don’t need facts, evidence, arguments. All they need is arbitrary assertions. And lots of weasel words.
None of the traitors responsible for putting half of this country under Mass Formation hypnosis (Mattias Desmet) will ever admit they wittingly spread disinformation. To do so would risk breaking control of their subjects.
“Mass Formation hypnosis”
They’re like a whirling dervish. They spin themselves into a state of delirium. Along with those in their vortex.
Sam, I don’t believe Panetta is in a state of delirium. As the former head of the CIA, he would know the tactics of psychological warfare. He’s not “spinning” himself, he’s merely continuing the psyops that has many in this country spinning “in their vortex.”
When Panetta says, I think disinformation is involved here. Believe him. When he and 50 others from the Intel community claim it has, all the classic earmarks of a Russian information operation. Believe them. Because when they are subject to lie detector evaluation, they need a statement they can go to for truth. And both of those statements are true. Disinformation is involved here. It does have all the classic earmarks of a Russian information operation. What they can never admit though is that it is their disinformation and it is modeled from what the former KGB officer Yuri Bezmenov called Active Measures.
Agreed, yet we are in worse shape than that. No need for mass formation, if you don’t tow the propaganda narrative, they take your online presence, your job, your future prospects, your fund raising, your bank accounts, and often any licenses you hold.
People really aren’t saying what we’ve seen the past number of years and the unnecessary horror it has already visited upon the entire society.
The government went as full totalitarian as it could possibly muster already and is still moving in that direction. Everything they told you about covid and the jabs was a lie.
Here’s something for you, that you probably didn’t know, don’t even right now. The covid jabs that were “tested” are not the same that was mass produced and delivered to the public. What was delivered was never tested.
Why is that ? Because mass production required a different method of manufacture – they used some “bug” to help produce quantities needed, and they didn’t separate that bug out at end of production, they injected a “break up agent” that split it’s DNA randomly into pieces, and those pieces were in the shots. Thus, they were injected into people, and those random strands can change gene expression and function and insert themselves into human DNA – some do some don’t some will some won’t. So this is one reason why there is a very wide breadth of adverse reactions to the covid jabs. This is why some of the people’s new issues cannot be solved yet, they have not happened before.
Mass formation psychosis
https://www.medpagetoday.com/special-reports/exclusives/96633
My Interview with Tucker Carlson
An Easygoing Introduction to Mass Formation and Totalitarianism
https://mattiasdesmet.substack.com/p/my-interview-with-tucker-carlson
I saw that interview. Very eye-opening.
OldMan,
Jordan Peterson has developed a program called Self-Authoring, that has proven effective to snap college students out of the demoralized state (Bezmenov) our Marxist educational institutions have buried them. Bezmenov believed the only way the demoralized would ever see the reality of the totalitarian state they were unwittingly supporting was by getting a “boot on their necks,” Peterson has 3 separate studies with thousands of university students that proved dropout rates dropped by 25% and improved GPA. Perhaps this is the means to snap the demoralized and hypnotized out of being controlled and instead begin to direct their own future and that of our country.
https://youtu.be/LGuqEGUIp3g
https://selfauthoring.com/
Thanks Olly, this looks interesting. JP’s contributions to society appear to be quite valuable.
What do we call false claims that are repeated despite being repeatedly debunked and disproven?
Lies.
POS panetta is dishonorable and should be ashamed. The fact that he is not and continues to lie makes him a POS
I would hope Fox News will issue a statement that Mr Panetta will no longer be invited on their network.
They should have him on (and others like him) all the time. The alternative is to let the lies go unchallenged on msnbc, cnn, nyt, wapo,…
I watched the interview elsewhere. It looked to me like he was trying to talk about “Russian misinformation” generally to try to avoid answering Baier’s specific question. The political two step.
In this case, he fooled nobody and came off looking like a big ole puckered sphincter.
Not that it matters. All the rest of the “former intelligence community” liars recruited by the Biden campaign to rig the election still have their pensions; think tank gigs; consulting gigs; book deals; etc.
No downside. No consequences for lying and rigging the election. Only upside. They are our version of Soviet commissars.
Panetta can not cite any basis to believe that it was Russian disinformation.
Democrat SOP. Their entire political ecosystem is a belief with no citations.
Turley claims that Panetta can not cite any basis. Is Turley correct? I doubt it.
“I doubt it.”
Can you cite any basis for your doubt? Or is your arbitrary doubt sufficient?
LOL. Can Turley cite any basis for HIS claim?
Yes dear, curl up and hide in your pedantry
What a great comment!
Hugs & kisses!
Very scary that such deceitful and utterly partisan hacks as Panetta and Brennan should have headed the CIA and, in Panetta’s case, I believe also the Defense Department.
Brennan is a communist.
‘I voted for the Communist Party with Gus Hall’