Report: Hunter’s Lawyers Balked at Kevin Morris Pushing Laptop Conspiracy Theories

We have previously discussed the controversial representation of Kevin Morris of Hunter Biden, including the threat from Morris to sue me for defamation if I continued to raise ethical concerns over his conduct. Now a report by the New York Times suggests that even Hunter’s other lawyers had concerns over Morris’s claims, particularly the fostering of a conspiracy theory to deny the authenticity of the infamous laptop of Hunter Biden.

According to the New York Times, Kevin Morris “quietly pushed a complex theory under which the repair shop was a front and the information had been made public through a cast of characters including a psychiatrist who had treated Mr. Biden’s addiction using ketamine therapy and the Trump-allied operative Roger J. Stone Jr.”

That is notable because many in the media picked up on the conspiracy theory despite ample evidence that the laptop was genuine. Indeed, a similar theory was contained in the now debunked letter of former intelligence officials just before the election — a letter widely used in the media to effectively shutdown coverage. Some later admitted that they assumed the emails were genuine.

The Washington Post’s Phillip Bump and others pushed the conspiracy theory. Indeed, in 2021, when media organizations were finally admitting that the laptop was authentic, Bump was still declaring that it was a “conspiracy theory.” Despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary, Bump continued to suggest that “the laptop was seeded by Russian intelligence.”

What is equally astonishing is that in 2023 the Post expressly stood by Bump’s reporting on the laptop and other debunked claims.

The media report suggests that  Chris Clark and Joshua Levy stopped working on the case as the false claims were being pushed. It is not clear if they support the reporting in the Times.

Levy reportedly exited from representation in March 2023 after “unease and dissent” over the Hunter Biden legal team and its direction.

Clark withdrew shortly after he admitted that Hunter’s notorious 2017 WhatsApp text demanding money from a Chinese businessman was genuine. In the message, Hunter literally describes his father sitting next to him to drive home the threat, declaring “I am sitting here with my father and we would like to understand why the commitment made has not been fulfilled…I would like to resolve this now before it gets out of hand, and now means tonight…I will make certain that between the man sitting next to me and every person he knows and my ability to forever hold a grudge that you will regret not following my direction. I am sitting here waiting for the call with my father.”

Morris has increasingly appeared to be something of an enabler for Hunter, reinforcing a persecution complex while funding his lavish lifestyle. What is striking about the report is that the conspiracy theory is precisely the type of disinformation that the Biden Administration has alleged against critics to seek their censorship, throttling, and banning on social media.

176 thoughts on “Report: Hunter’s Lawyers Balked at Kevin Morris Pushing Laptop Conspiracy Theories”

  1. What ailment, what ‘excuse’, will even DOCTOR Jill Biden agree to go to air with, to enable her husband Joe to pull out of the election race?

  2. The Democrat Dam has sprung its first link:

    ‘He Speaks in Gibberish’: Yet Another Liberal Thought Leader Demands Biden Drops Out

    Yet another Democratic Party thought leader has demanded that Joe Biden drop out of the 2024 presidential race.

    Ezra Klein, the co-founder of Vox and now a columnist and podcast host at The New York Times, said he understood that many liberals would be angry at him for calling on Biden to go but that it was necessary.

    The 39-year-old went on to make a series of arguments as to why Biden should not stand again, including his age and lagging poll numbers:

    The arguments I see even some smart Democrats making so they don’t have to look at this directly are self-defeating. The one I hear most often is that Trump is also old. He’s 77. He also mixes up names — he recently called Nancy Pelosi, Nikki Haley. He sometimes speaks in gibberish.

    And it’s all true. But that is a reason to nominate a candidate who can exploit the fact that Trump is old and confused. The point is not to give Trump an even match. The point is to beat Trump.

    https://redstate.com/benkew/2024/02/18/he-speaks-in-gibberish-yet-another-liberal-thought-leader-demands-biden-drops-out-n2170291

    More at the link above. I predict the shills here will soon reverse course on Biden, and join in spinning Biden’s dropping out of the race. I have also been predicting that Biden will have a physical ailment, that allows him to save face.

    1. Joe Biden is the worst. He has taken that spot from James Buchanon.
      Obama is in the bottom 10%.
      Trump is in the top 3rd.

      Any ranking that places Biden above Trump is laughable garbage

  3. Off topic: I was just banned by Twitter/X for using the expression “drop dead,” under the pretense that it’s a “threat of violence.” This is the THIRD time that the fraudulent MORONS at Twitter/X have banned me for using the same expression, after previously lifting the ban a few minutes after banning me and sending me an apology for their mistake — this coming AFTER I’d previously pointed out to the MORONS that “drop dead” is a common expression of dislike or contempt, not a threat:

    Meaning of Idiom ‘Drop Dead’
    1. Drop dead is used as an expression of intense anger, dislike, hatred, or rejection; go away; stop bothering me; I don’t want to see you anymore.
    https://www.idioms.online/drop-dead/

    After I pointed that out to the corrupt frauds at Twitter/X the last time (February 1, 2024), they sent me this apology and acknowledgment of their error:

    Hello,
    Our support team has reviewed your account and it appears we made an error. We’ve determined there was no violation and have restored your account to full functionality.
    We sincerely apologize for any inconvenience and appreciate you taking the time to submit your appeal request to us.
    Thanks,
    Twitter

    I’m pretty sure most people that speak English know “drop dead” is NOT a threat of violence but IS an expression of contempt, and wouldn’t need anyone to point that out to them. And after previously acknowledging their “error” and apologizing, they’ve just done it again. WHY? — because they are total frauds manufacturing excuses to violate people’s free speech while pretending to champion free speech — same as happens regularly here in Turleyville where “free speech” means that people can say whatever Turley’s hall monitor feels like letting them say it.

    Twitter/X and Elon Musk are the dumbest, most-corrupt BS yet to come trotting down the never-ending BS highway.

    1. Hmm. And I always thought “drop dead” was the verbal cue funeral directors gave staff when it was time to lower a coffin into the grave.

  4. We previously discussed how Giuliani, who gave the NY Post a copy of Hunter’s hard drive, was successfully sued for defamation & ordered to pay 2 Georgia election workers $148 million for falsely claiming they rigged Georgia’s election for Biden. Turley remains enraged that anyone would dare be suspicious of Trump’s attorney waiting until 3 weeks before the 2020 election, then giving the NY Post a copy of a hard drive from the son of his client’s political opponent.

    Let’s remember that when the NY Post reported that Giuliani was given a copy of the laptop by a computer shop owner, the Post also reported: “The shop owner couldn’t positively identify the customer as Hunter Biden.”

    Turley is adamant that the motives of Trump’s attorney had absolutely nothing to do with election interference. But the Professor has yet to offer any explanation for why Giuliani refused numerous requests from the Washington Post, NY Times & other mainstream to obtain a copy of the laptop so they could independently verify the contents before the 2020 election.

    And the source for Turley’s new information about Kevin Morris? The NY Times. This is indeed notable.

      1. Both suits will be dropped by Hunter. Like Alger Hiss’s suit against Whittaker Chamber, or Oscar Wilde’s suit against Lord Douglas, they are purely tactical moves with an eye to public opinion.

    1. BugAnon – if any journalist had a doubt as to genuineness of the provenance of the laptop, he or she could have called, or called upon, McIsaac.

      1. I doubt that that Anonymous is Bug.

        Mac Isaac is legally blind and is not certain about the identity of the person who dropped the laptops off. He also admits in his book to doing illegal things (e.g., on the same day that the laptops were dropped off he says “I continued copying files until I got to one titled “income.pdf.” … It was begging to be clicked open. So I did”). Legal access to work on the electronics is not legal access to go snooping in the data, and it was also illegal for him to make and give a copy of the hard drive to Giuliani.

    2. . Turley remains enraged that anyone would dare be suspicious of Trump’s attorney waiting until 3 weeks before the 2020 election, then giving the NY Post a copy of a hard drive from the son of his client’s political opponent.

      You mean an October Surprise? Political tactic thats been going on for 50 years?
      Care to match that up with

      George W Bush got ambushed by Dan Rather publishing NG records that were fake, Rather refused to verify before he spread the fake info
      We have the fake Pee Pee video claims all the media published and never tried to verify
      The 5 year long Russian Collussion dirty trick?

      Of course the media knew all these were actual fakes
      Hunters Laptop contains no information that has been proven fake.

      1. iowan2, what’s your source for ‘Hunters Laptop contains no information that has been proven fake?’ When the Washington Post was finally given a copy of the hard drive, they had 2 security experts examine the data. Here’s what they found:

        “Thousands of emails purportedly from the laptop computer of Hunter Biden, President Biden’s son, are authentic communications that can be verified through cryptographic signatures from Google and other technology companies

        The verifiable emails are a small fraction of 217 gigabytes of data provided to The Post on a portable hard drive by Republican activist Jack Maxey. He said the contents of the portable drive originated from Hunter Biden’s MacBook Pro, which Hunter reportedly dropped off at a computer repair shop in Wilmington, Del., in April 2019 and never reclaimed.

        The vast majority of the data — and most of the nearly 129,000 emails it contained — could not be verified by either of the two security experts who reviewed the data for The Post. Among the reasons for the inconclusive findings was sloppy handling of the data, which damaged some records. The experts found the data had been repeatedly accessed and copied by people other than Hunter Biden over nearly three years.”

        What source are you citing which concluded that none of the information in Hunters laptop was proven to be fake? Was your source able to verify all 217 gigabytes of data?

    3. Thne Guilliani verdict will be overturned.

      First because it was venue shopped – neither the plantifs nor Guiliani reside in DC and DC has nothing to do with the case.

      This is a Judge Beryl Howell judicial farce that will fail.

      Next Howell – as we have seen in the lefts weaponization of defamation, skipped the actual trial and decided Guiliani’s guilt at summary judgement.

      Thus denying Guiliani each of myriads of excellent defenses – Such as the statements were TRUE.

      Next you have the fact that the plantiffs are government election officials – presumably you have heard of the case “Times vs. Sullivan”
      Regardless, it would apply here.

    4. ATS let it go. The Biden family is corrupt. The good news as SC Hur has pointed out is that Joe is too incompetent to stand trial.

      Regardless, the Biden family corruption has been an open secret in Washington for decades. Though the early frauds involved only James and Joe. James has lost lawsuits for defrauding clients in his influence pedalling scams.

      In 2015 the Burisma scandal surfaced – Trump did not bring it up, Republicans did not bring it up. Sydney Blumenthal a clinton hatchett man dropped it to an NYT reporter that ran the story in order to keep Biden out of the 2016 primary. It was a message – Hillary had the goods on Joe and if he ran, She would see him in jail.

      Not a republican in site.

      Later Reporter John Solomon – a highly respected old school investigative journalist started looking further into the story, and dug up even more
      He found court proceedings in Eastern europe, other evidence of Hunter/Joe corruption in eastern europe, He chased down a Shokin deposition as well as information on shokin establishing that the claim that Shokin was corrupt was garbage manufactured by Sorros and Biden – not based on any evidence.

      Guiliani subsequerntly took interst building on the information that Solomon had uncovered – though mostly relying on Solomon’s work.
      The fundimental difference being the Guiliani was capable of getting air time to repeat Solomon’s findings.

      ALL OF THE ABOVE occured – not just before the 2020 election – but starting in 2015. The FBI – unknown to most everyone had the Hunter Biden laptop – actually two hard drives in 2019 and we investigating at the time of Faux Trump impeachment I. That information should have been made available to the house at that time as it was highly exculpatory to the claim that Trump did not have a legitimate basis for asking Zelensky to investigate Biden.

      The computer shop owner that Hunter left his laptop with brought it to Guiliani’s attentioon AFTER the FBI appeared to be doing NOTHING
      He had ckept a copy with he provided to Guiliani. Shortly after Guiliani provided it to NY Post whihch then went to a great deal of effort to authenticate the contents of the drive. Glenn Greenwald did an excellent video and a story on the claim that the Drive had not been authenticated or was Russian disinformation was total garbage.

      I would note that Greenwald is a Gay lawyer who is pretty far tot he left, and is one of the predominant reporters on the national security beat.
      Greenwald is the reporter that broke the Snoden story traveling to Hong Kong to interview him and decide what could safely be released.

      It was self evident to all but morons on the left that the contents of the hardrive were real and came from hunter Biden.
      No, not even the russians can fake something this large and complex. I would further note that even the FBI has authenticated the hard drive.

      Are the contents damning ? Absolutely. The contents are incredibly damning to Hunter Biden. Providing irrefutable evidence of multiple crimes.
      But that is not really what peopel care about. What the care about is is it damning to Joe Biden – and the answer is absolutely.

      Whether you like it or not it proves that the Biden family was engaged in bribery and influence pedalling, that despite denials – Joe Biden was part of this from the begining. The laptop demonstrates that Joe Biden was present for meetings with Oligarchs or their reps, for meetings with rich and powerful global organized crime bosses, and with the chinese. But the laptop is only SOME of the evidence. As noted – John Solomon gathered alot of evidence long before the laptop. And subsequent to the laptop FOIA requests and court orders have gotten Joe Biden’s emails from NARA where Joe was copied by and wrote to Hunter about these deals.

      The left is salivating over the recent DOJ indictment of the FBI CHS. Purportedly that pulls the only evidence against Joe – that is poppycock.
      The FBI CHS is just the cherry on the sunday and frankly not even that.

      And the left seems to think that indicting the CHS proves that his statements are false – while it really seems to prove they are TRue and damaging to Biden.

      This is a multi decade FBI CHS rated as highly reliable by the FBI The 1023 reports hearsay evidence of corruption involing Joe Biden.
      That is something that is damn near impossible to prove false. What are you going to do subpeona Zolechevsky or other Burisma executives – and you are going to beleive them over the CHS why ?

      There is no recordings of this exchange.
      The FBI did not prosecute the CHS in 2020, 2021, 2022, or 2023, only in 2024 right after his 1023 was aquired by Sen. Grassley, did the DOJ try to prosecute this guy.
      No one has prosecuted Chrisopher Steele who actually did feed false information to the FBI.

      I can not recall DOJ ever prosecuting an FBI CHS. Certainly not one they labeled as highly reliable.

      I would note this source came to the FBI with this report in 2020. One of many reports from this source over more than a decade.
      The source did NOT try to sell the story. Did not go to the press, did NOT go to Guliani or republicans.
      In fact he did NOTHING with his allegations except provide them to the FBI.

      Nor did he leak his own 1023 to Grassley – that had to come from inside DOJ/FBI. I would note that the leaker claims there are many more such 1023’s from other sources.

      We only know the name of this CHS – because DOJ has released it as part of their prosecution.

      Given the behavior of the DOJ – the efforts of many in the DOJ to sabotage the Hunter Biden prosecution and the same people orchestrating the lawfare against Trump,

      It is more plausible that this is more election interferance by the DOJ, not actual false statements by the CHS.

      The fact is that you have not damaged the Biden impeachment inquiry. If anything you have enhanced it.

      You have made it evident that the left is engaging in massive election 2024 fraud and using the power of govenrment to do so.

      It is quite reasonable to beleive that those who would violate the first amendment and weaponize the government against political enemies in 2024, would committ election fraud in 2020.

      The above is only a PART of the mountain of evidence of Joe Biden’s corruption – as well as that of many democrats who are aiding and abetting.

    5. Just to be clear, Trump and his attorney’s are private citizens. They can not engage in election interferance in the way you are alleging.

      This is more 1984 newspeak from the left.

      Candidates, and campaigns and lawyers can say whatever the wish to “influence and election”
      Candidates and their staff lie all the time in elections. We have many many many examples of democrats lying to win elections.

      I expect that Trump’s lawyers motive is to win the case, though they are free to also try to influence the election.
      Trying to win an election is not a bad motive – it is the motive of every political candidate and their staff.
      It is their ACTS that matter.
      It is the job of the press to sort that out – one they have failed abysmally at. Near univerally getting everything wrong.

      The only parties barred from “interfering in an election” are GOVERNMENT.
      Again Government may not act to influence and election – regardless of motive.
      The only evidence of illegal interference in elections is that of the left

  5. Trump Can’t Acknowledge Navalny’s Death Because.. Because..?

    Donald Trump has yet to speak publicly on Navalny’s death, drawing criticism from his political opponents, including GOP challenger Nikki Haley who called on the former president to “call out” Putin for Navalny’s death, along with the imprisonment of Wall Street Journal reporter Evan Gershkovich, who has been detained in Russia for nearly a year.

    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4475603-tim-scott-trump-nato-comments-silence-navalny/
    ………………………………….

    Professor Turley has repeatedly suggested that mainstream media unfairly snubbed the Hunter Biden laptop story because of ‘irrational’ paranoia regarding Russian meddling. Yet this past week Donald Trump gave the world good reason to question his admiration for Vladimir Putin.

    While western leaders were attending a security summit in Munich, Trump gave a speech signaling to Putin that an attack on NATO might be tolerated by a second Trump administration.

    Yulia Navalnaya was at the Munich summit. She’s the wife of Alexei Navalny, Putin’s jailed political rival. Navalnaya was scheduled to meet U.S. Secretary of State Anthony Blinkin and Vice President Kamala Harris.

    Then came news that Alexei Navalny had suddenly, any mysteriously, ‘died’ in prison! It was Putin’s response to Trump’s speech. Putin was signaling that he can murder his main political rival while western leaders are having a security summit.

    And now Donald Trump refuses to comment on Navalny’s death. As though the presumed Republican candidate has nothing to say when Russia’s leader picks such a moment to murder his main rival.

    1. Your talk is b——-! Do one thing you ——- idiot. Drill! End Russian oil sales. Put Putin out of business.

      1. Oh we get it! Trump can’t comment on Navalny’s death because that would discourage oil drilling’. Makes sense to me. ..Not..!!

        1. Trump is negotiating and you are acting.

          Putin will stop invading, stop assassinating and stop his bad acting after he is thrown out of office and possibly “neutralized” by his successor for taking down the Russian economy.

          You have no quarters. You have no dimes. You have no nickles. And you have no cents. That’s why you conjure delusions of grandeur out of your quiet desperation.

          Good luck with you, comradette.

    2. More of this left wing nonsense.

      Trump has not said X therefore he must beleive ~X.

      Trump did not call out the peodophile arrested in my town last night – Trump must support peodophiles.

      Trump went to east Palestine – before Butigieg, and long before Biden.

      BTW it is not necescary to “call out Putin” – it is not as if it is a secret, or that without Trump saying something people will not know what to think on their own.

      Grow up.
      Think for yourself.

    3. Why are you democrats, so naive and gullible? Asking as an immigrant.
      Trump admirers putin? You’re idiots.
      Putin prefers biden over Trump.
      Putin took Crimea during Obama. Sat silent for four years and then started the war under biden [Obama].
      He wouldn’t play that game with Trump.

    4. How about the critics of Trump saying something about the effective imprisonment of Julian Assange? We can actually do something about that.

    5. ATS Trump is doing democrats a favor by Not Rushing to make comparisons between the weaponization of government that Putin did with Navalny and that whihc Biden is doing against Trump and republicans.

      After all – Biden has no trouble jailing political oponents and would be happy to see Trump die in jail – as would you.

      Trump will with near certainty draw apropriate comparions between Navalny and himself.
      \
      You should be thankful and keep quiet that he has not.

  6. Here is a simple scenario, for simple shills.

    You are an attorney, Washington, D.C. Normally, you do DUI defense for various politicos and their families. And, criminal drug use defense for that same group.

    One, Mr. Zhadibna Svolota, a Ukrainian businessman, comes into your office. He gives you a $100 bill, to establish a lawyer/client relationship, and thus confidentiality. Then, he sits down to ask you some questions. Here is what he says:

    I wish to buy influence with Vice. President Joe Biden for an energy company. I know that I can not give money directly to him, or it would be traceable. May I instead, give money to his son, or other family member? Our intelligence service informs us that Hunter Biden is a drug addict, and a user of prostitutes. Such a man surely needs money.

    What advice do you give Mr. Svolota?

    a) Yes, this is fine, because people in Washington do that all the time, and it is not illegal;

    b) Yes, but pay him in cash, because it is illegal, and cash is hard to trace, and pay me in cash, too; or

    c) No, it is still bribery, even if you pay a family member.

    If you need a hint:

    “Financial benefits for family members are a familiar phenomenon in corruption cases, said John P. Pelissero, senior scholar in government at the Markkula Center for Applied Ethics at Santa Clara University. Even if the money does not go directly to the public official, those payments can constitute a misuse of that official’s position, he said.”
    ————-
    Now, suppose you are a scaredy-cat, and you wonder if Mr. Svolota is an FBI confidential informant, or if you are being secretly recorded, so you skip b) – pay it in cash, the sensible answer, and you say c), it is still bribery.

    So suppose, Mr. Svolota then asks if there is any bona fide way to get money to Hunter.

    What advice do you give Mr. Svolota?

    a) No, there is no way anybody could give money to Hunter Biden that would not be illegal; or

    b) Sure there is! Give Hunter a more or less do-nothing job. Make it a job where he does not have to register under FARA, such as a member of the board of directors, or as a roughneck in the oil field.
    ———–
    If you are curious how this ends, Mr. Svolota chooses the member of the board job, because nobody would trust a drug addict working around heavy machinery.

      1. Very true. But the lawyer above was careful not to cross the line, IMHO. The lawyer gave the correct answer to the client that such an act was indeed bribery. Then, the client asked for a “bona fide” way to give Hunter money, not an illegal way. Plus, it is all theoretical at this point, and death or serious injury is not likely. Any future crime is nebulous at best.

    1. There is no evidence that JB *was* influenced by any money or jobs given to HB. Quite the opposite, multiple people have testified before Congress that JB was not involved and not influenced.

      1. (1) Some deponents did state that JB was not “involved.” Other evidence sheds doubt on that conclusion. So the answer to his “involvement” is still dynamic, not static in disposition. (-Precisely, as Floyd earlier mentioned, the reason for congressional impeachment investigation.)
        (2) Deponents (other than JB himself) can not declare that JB was “not influenced.” They may only opine same, if foundation for that opinion is not objected to, and their testimony is weighted accordingly.

      2. The most obvious explanation for the extortionate demand that Shokin be fired is that Burisma wanted him fired. Any other explanation is bizarre. We might also question why we have chosen, under Biden, to provide almost unlimited military aid to Ukraine. This is easier to understand if we see as as a payback to Ukraine for financing Hunter’s drug and prostitute habits, and perhaps to avoid release of compromising information about the BCF.

  7. Turley holds out a carrot on a stick for his MAGA base. And they will never quite catch the carrot, and Turley knows this. Turley is using the same MO he did with Hillary. Sad, very sad.

      1. @JohnSay
        “Does this mean anything?”

        Yes, as a paid shill, FishWings is required to make at 25 comments per day per sock puppet, per website. None of the comments need be germane, intelligible, or even rational.

      2. Yes. Here is what it means…
        Dem/lefty’s like Fishy cannot “think” for themselves.
        They can’t even acknowledge that Biden is a serial liar, or that the media they “trust” and listen to, lies to them, or that the “news’ is fake, or that every single elected Democrat goes on TV and lies like a mutha.
        They actually believe only Trump lies and Fox News lies. They actually believe this.

        They are lost in the matrix and it is 100% a waste of time to even attempt a rational, reasoned conversation with any of them. They are lost in the matrix and 100% gone, hopeless, pathetic, pitiful. This is the reality today.

        BUT….since they can only regurgitate state propaganda and are no longer able to ‘think’….they remain VERY useful idiots for The Party and the Dear Leader. Fishy is Useful Idiot Exhibit A.

    1. “…no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case.”

      – James B. Comey, FBI Director
      __________________________________

      Of course, prosecutors across the land were chomping at the bit to execute the “slam dunk” case against the evident criminal, Hillary “Little Miss BleachBit” Clinton.
      _______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

      “I did not have [30,000 deleterious] relations with that [program] Miss [BleachBit].”

      – Hillary Clinton

  8. What New York Governor Kathy Hochul said: “Law abiding and rule following New Yorkers who are businesspeople have nothing to worry about because they’re very different than Donald Trump and his behavior.”

    What New York Governor Kathy Hochul meant: “If you are a businessman, don’t even look sideways at the Democrat party or we will f*** you eight ways to Sunday.”

    1. “New York Governor Kathy Hochul said . . .”

      Lenin and Stalin were more honest about their goals and methods. They passed laws that openly granted government the power to confiscate private wealth, property, businesses.

      New York’s communists are sneakier. They loot and destroy under a “law” that is arbitrary and capricious, that can mean anything to anyone — that disarms its victims, that gives politicians and bureaucrats unchecked power to do whatever they wish to anyone they don’t like.

      Exhibit A: The abomination of justice that was the Trump “trial.”

      Sixty-seven years after its publication, this culture has learned nothing from _Atlas Shrugged_. Tragically, neither have the prime movers. And now both are paying a costly price.

      1. Communism is not only antithetical but irrefutably unconstitutional. States have no power to exercise tyranny where the federal government is prohibited from doing so. States have no power to deny constitutional rights, freedoms, privileges, and immunities. States have no power to deny the freedom of speech, to deny the right to private property, etc., or to deny the immunities from taxation and regulation provided by the limitations and restrictions on taxation established in Article 1, Section 8. Americans enjoy constitutional rights, freedoms, privileges, and immunities. Americans are subject to constitutionally limited governmental taxation and regulation; Americans are almost totally immune from governmental taxation and regulation.

        The entire communistic American welfare state is unconstitutional including, but not limited to, admissions affirmative action, grade-inflation affirmative action, employment affirmative action, quotas, welfare, food stamps, minimum wage, rent control, social services, forced busing, public housing, utility subsidies, WIC, SNAP, TANF, HAMP, HARP, TARP, Health and Human Services, Housing and Urban Development, Environmental Protection Agency, Agriculture, Education, Labor, Energy, Obamacare, Social Security, Social Security Disability, Social Security Supplemental Income, Medicare, Medicaid, “Fair Housing” laws, “Non-Discrimination” laws, etc.Government exists, under the Constitution and Bill of Rights, to provide maximal freedom to individuals while government is severely limited and restricted to merely facilitating that maximal freedom of individuals through the provision of only security and infrastructure.

        Article 1, Section 8, provides Congress the power to tax for ONLY debt, defense, and “…general (all, the whole) Welfare…,” omitting and, thereby, excluding any power to tax for individual Welfare, specific Welfare, particular Welfare, favor or charity. The same article enumerates and provides Congress the power to regulate ONLY the Value of money, Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several states, and with the Indian Tribes, and land and naval Forces. Additionally, the 5th Amendment right to private property was initially qualified by the Framers and is, therefore, absolute, allowing no further qualification, and allowing ONLY the owner the power to “claim and exercise” dominion over private property.

        “[Private property is] that dominion which one man claims and exercises over the external things of the world, in exclusion of every other individual.”

        – James Madison

        Government exists, under the Constitution and Bill of Rights, to provide maximal freedom to individuals while government is severely limited and restricted to merely facilitating that maximal freedom of individuals through the provision of security and infrastructure only.

      1. Then you would be able to specifically list how Trump is an “assault on democracy”.

        Disliking his policies is not “an assault on democracy”
        Becing upset because he enforced the law s that were on the books that you do not like – is not an assault on democracy”/

        Protesting a dubious election – is not an assault on democracy.

        I can probably name 10 acts of Joe Biden that are actual “assaults on democracy” starting with refusing to faithfully execute the laws and constitution of the united states.

        1. Trump’s the one who refused to faithfully execute all laws. Which is why he’s been charged with breaking a number of them while President, in his J6 case.

          1. Refusing to abide by our laws, acting lawlessly and unconstitutionally, then being reversed by the Supreme Court….and then attempting to circumvent Supreme Court rulings any way they can, or by calling for expanding the court by adding MORE justices….more left leaning activists….more to THEIR liking….is what Democrats call “protecting our democracy.”

            What Democrats do is precisely the opposite of protecting or saving our “democracy.” They are tearing it down every day.

      2. Trump is an assault on your “dictatorship of the proletariat,” which is communism, which is one-man, one-vote “democracy,” in the American restricted-vote republic, which was typical and imperative of all coherent and rational restricted-vote republics since inception in Greece. You, the intelligentsia, benefit from the absurd “vote” of the masses of obtuse and malleable leeches and parasites you exercise control over through the aforementioned “dictatorship.” Do all of you avaricious, dictatorial, and megalomaniacal communists actually dupe and fool yourselves?

        The American thesis is freedom and self-reliance under the Constitution.

        You just hate the concept of freedom and self-reliance don’t you, comrade Fishy?

      3. Trump is assaulting democracy by campaigning for votes outside Washington DC, NYC and Hollywood. Obviously, he must be stopped by all means necessary.

  9. So let’s recap. Turley & Fox News hosts relentlessly pushed the now thoroughly debunked allegations from a so-called “trusted FBI informant” about Joe & Hunter Biden. Turley’s “highly credible FBI source” was just arrested for lying to the FBI & creating false records about Joe & Hunter Biden. Last year, Sean Hannity cited “the trusted FBI informant” 85 times.

    Turley’s media employer, Fox News, paid Dominion $787 million & fired Lou Dobbs & Tucker Carlson for pushing false narratives about the 2020 election. Turley’s media employer currently faces a $2.7 billion defamation lawsuit from Smartmatic.

    Keep us posted about the ones pushing disinformation, Professor.

    1. the “Trusted FBI Informat” who was a “highly credible FBI source” was evaluated that way – not by Turley, not by Fox, but by the FBI.

      Even today we have no reason to beleive he is not “Highly credible” – just as the FBI previously assessed him.

      What is NOT “highly credible” – even prior to this, is the Biden administration and DOJ/FBI.

      So far this indictment looks more like “election interferance ” than anything else.

      The FBI has had this report for 4 years. They have not challenged it before.
      They fought like h311 to avoid disclosing it. And then only when the 1023 is made public they indict the source that THEY called “highly credible”

      Sounds like obstruction of congress to me.

      Isn’t that what you are going after TRump and all those J6’rs ? Except there is a difference – they WERE engaged in protected first amendment activities when they allegedly attempted to “interfere with a proceeding” – DOJ/FBI is not.

      We are slowly learning more and more about coordination between the WH and NARA and DOJ and FBI and the SC and Willis and Wade and Bragg, and James and ….

      And you think we should trust the DOJ here ?

      This really looks like more of the lawless stupid self serving nonsense that the left has engaged in for the past decade +.

      The Trump losses in NY will likely quietly be overturned on appeal.
      It is highly unlikely that NY truly wishes to be portrayed that lawlessly and corrupt and hostile to business.

      But the damage is done regardless. Who would move their business to NY ?
      Many businesses in NJY will leave.

      This is what happens when you make up the law as you go.

      Further, I would ask you when EVER has DOJ prosecuted a CHS for “lying to the FBI” – particularly about something such as conversations they were appart of that there are no unbiased witnesses to.

      Just like NY is sending a clear message – Closed to business.
      DOJ is sending one too – Do NOT become an FBI CHS

      Regardless, the way that you deal with this is easy – if there is a hearing you impeach the witness you beleive is lying on the stand.

    2. So your idea of evidence is proof that the left engages in lawfare and venue shopping.

      If you beleive your claims – lets have them tried in federal court by a jury that represents american – not the peoples republics of DC and NY.

        1. “If you don’t want to be tried in DC or NY, don’t break the law in DC or NY.”

          If you don’t want to be tried, fined, and jailed in any state that bans the harboring of slaves — then don’t break the law (aka the Fugitive Slave Act).

          So say the duty-bound, legalistic ones who mindlessly cite the “law” — without any thought for the meaning or justice of that law.

    3. You do understand that when Hannity said “trusted FBI informant” he was making a factually correct statement.

      The man is an FBI CHS and the FBI rated him as highly credible for over a decade.

      You do not seem to grasp that it does not matter whether this CHS is lying or not – it is the FBI that has egg on its face either way.

  10. FWIW:

    “The specific subsections of the statute are:

    Bribery

    a. § 201(b)(1): offering a bribe to a public official
    b. § 201(b)(2): acceptance of a bribe by a public official

    Gratuities

    a. § 201(c)(1)(A): offering a gratuity to a public official

    b. § 201(c)(1)(B): acceptance of a gratuity by a public official.

    The two offenses differ in several respects. The most important of these differences concerns how close a connection there is between the giving (or receiving) of the thing of value, on the one hand, and the doing of the official act, on the other. If the connection is causally direct – if money was given essentially to purchase or ensure an official act, as a “quid pro quo” then the crime is bribery. If the connection is looser – if money was given after the fact, as “thanks” for an act but not in exchange for it, or if it was given with a nonspecific intent to “curry favor” with the public official to whom it was given -then it is a gratuity. The distinction is sometimes hard to see, but the statute makes it critical: a § 201(b) “bribe” conviction is punishable by up to 15 years in prison, while a § 201(c) “gratuity” conviction permits only a maximum 2-year sentence. In addition, with a “bribe” the payment may go to anyone or to anything and may include campaign contributions, while with a “gratuity” the payment must inure to the personal benefit of the public official and cannot include campaign contributions.

    [cited in JM 9-85.101]

    https://www.justice.gov/archives/jm/criminal-resource-manual-2041-bribery-public-officials
    ———————–
    Notice the language, in the last sentence:

    In addition, with a “bribe” the payment may go to anyone or to anything and may include campaign contributions, while with a “gratuity” the payment must inure to the personal benefit of the public official and cannot include campaign contributions.

  11. Watch this interview with Mike Benz, the Executive Director of the Foundation for Freedom Online and you’ll question everything you know and how you came to know it. Hint: 51 Intel officials never “believed” the laptop had earmarks of anything to do with Russian propaganda. It was their letter and their strategy about the laptop that had the earmarks.

    https://rumble.com/v4dtxtu-everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-governments-mass-censorship-campaign.html?mref=6zof&mc=dgip3&ep=1

  12. “THE FBI CAME TO US”

    “GETTING THE DECISION WRONG SUCKS”

    – Zuckerberg
    _______________

    Getting the decision wrong deliberately and willfully (i.e. taking orders from the FBI) sucks even worse.

    What the —-, Zuck?
    _______________________

    “Zuckerberg tells Rogan FBI warning prompted Biden laptop story censorship”

    Mark Zuckerberg says Facebook restricting a story about Joe Biden’s son during the 2020 election was based on FBI misinformation warnings.

    The New York Post alleged leaked emails from Hunter Biden’s laptop showed the then vice-president was helping his son’s business dealings in Ukraine.

    Facebook and Twitter restricted sharing of the article, before reversing course amid allegations of censorship.

    Zuckerberg said that getting the decision wrong “sucks”.

    “When we take down something that we’re not supposed to, that’s the worst,” Zuckerberg said in a rare extended media interview on the Joe Rogan podcast.

    The New York Post story was released just weeks before the presidential election between Joe Biden and Donald Trump, which Mr Biden won.

    It claimed that a laptop, abandoned in a repair shop by Hunter Biden, contained emails which included details of Hunter introducing a Ukrainian energy tycoon to his father and arranging a meeting. There is no record on Mr Biden’s schedule that such a meeting ever took place.

    Critically, it…[was]…about [de facto] corruption on Joe Biden’s part to ensure his son’s business success in Ukraine.

    In that context, the New York Post story, based on exclusive data no other news agency had access to, was met with scepticism – and censored by social media outlets.

    Zuckerberg told Rogan: “The background here is that the FBI came to us – some folks on our team – and was like ‘hey, just so you know, you should be on high alert. We thought there was a lot of Russian propaganda in the 2016 election, we have it on notice that basically there’s about to be some kind of dump that’s similar to that’.”

    – BBC

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