Monica Cornejo, an assistant professor of interpersonal communication, was forcibly removed from a Cornell University event this week after disrupting a speech by conservative commentator Ann Coulter. She is only the latest faculty member to seek to prevent others from hearing opposing views. The question now is what Cornell will do about her conduct.
To its credit, Cornell resolved to reinvite Coulter to speak after a prior event was disrupted by protesters. On March 13, Cornell Provost Michael Kotlikoff stated that:
“Having been deeply troubled by an invited speaker at Cornell (any speaker) being shouted down and unable to present their views, I agreed that there could be few more powerful demonstrations of Cornell’s commitment to free expression than to have Ms. Coulter return to campus and present her views.”
Kotlikoff should be commended for taking a principled stance in favor of free speech.
The question, however, is how he will handle Cornejo. In a 36-second video posted by The College Fix officers indicate that she is under arrest for “disorderly conduct.” According to the site, she repeatedly responded“don’t touch me — do not touch me,” and tells them “I am a faculty member.” (I could not make out the last reported statement on the tape itself).
Cornejo is described in media reports as “one of the first undocumented tenure-track faculty members at Cornell.” She was interrupting a speech by Coulter titled “Immigration: The Conspiracy To End America.”
Her bio states that
“Dr. Monica Cornejo is an Assistant Professor in Interpersonal Communication in the Department of Communication at the College of Agriculture and Life Sciences. Dr. Cornejo’s research uses qualitative and quantitative methodologies to examine the structural barriers that lead to inequities among undocumented immigrants, how undocumented immigrants draw on communication identity management and advocacy strategies to challenge those barriers, and how those strategies relate to undocumented immigrants’ health and wellbeing.
…Dr. Cornejo focuses on teaching students about different ways in which interpersonal communication can reduce or create disparities and inequities in the United States (e.g., discrimination towards sexual orientation minorities and immigrant communities), as well as the strategies members of minoritized communities (and allies, co-conspirators, families) utilize to challenge the disparities and inequities that position minoritized group members in a second-class position.”
I have previously written that universities must draw a clear distinction between free speech and this type of disruptive conduct. Cornejo has every right to protest outside of the event. However, preventing others from speaking or hearing opposing views is not free speech. It is the antithesis of free speech. It will continue until universities show the courage to discipline faculty or students engaging in such conduct.
The removal of Cornejo showed a commitment to free speech by the school. Often schools remain passive or enforce a heckler’s veto in such cases.
Yet, removal alone is not sufficient. Protesters will often plan a series of disruptions to effectively shutdown an event. Moreover, the university stated publicly that it wanted to show that such an event could occur on campus without disruption. This faculty member defied that policy and elected to heckle and disrupt the event.
She is not the first.
Years ago, many of us were shocked by the conduct of University of Missouri communications professor Melissa Click who directed a mob against a student journalist covering a Black Lives Matter event. Yet, Click was hired by Gonzaga University. Since that time, we have seen a steady stream of professors joining students in shouting down, committing property damage, participating in riots, verbally attacking students, or even taking violent action in protests.
Blocking others from speaking is not the exercise of free speech. It is the very antithesis of free speech. Nevertheless, faculty have supported such claims. CUNY Law Dean Mary Lu Bilek showed how far this trend has gone. When conservative law professor Josh Blackman was stopped from speaking about “the importance of free speech,” Bilek insisted that disrupting the speech on free speech was free speech. (Bilek later cancelled herself and resigned). Even student newspapers have declared opposing speech to be outside of the protections of free speech.
At Fresno State University public health professor Dr. Gregory Thatcher, recruited students to destroy pro-life messages.
At the University of California Santa Barbara, professors actually rallied around feminist studies associate professor Mireille Miller-Young, who physically assaulted pro-life advocates and tore down their display. Despite pleading guilty to criminal assault, she was not fired and received overwhelming support from the students and faculty. She was later honored as a model for women advocates.
At Hunter College in New York, Professor Shellyne Rodríguez was shown trashing a pro-life display of students.
She was captured on a videotape telling the students that “you’re not educating s–t […] This is f–king propaganda. What are you going to do, like, anti-trans next? This is bulls–t. This is violent. You’re triggering my students.”
Unlike the professor, the students remained calm and respectful. One even said “sorry” to the accusation that being pro-life was triggering for her students.
Rodríguez continued to rave, stating, “No you’re not — because you can’t even have a f–king baby. So you don’t even know what that is. Get this s–t the f–k out of here.” In an Instagram post, she is then shown trashing the table.
Hunter College, however, did not consider this unhinged attack to be sufficient to terminate Rodríguez.
It was only after she later chased reporters with a machete that the college fired Rodríguez. She was then hired by another college.
That of course is the point. She is a professor and was teaching these students that they do not have to allow others to speak if they oppose their viewpoints.
In watching their faculty engage in such conduct, one can understand why students believe that they have license to prevent others from speaking on campus. The only way to change that view is to suspend, fire, or expel those who seek to prevent others hearing opposing views by disrupting events. Again, the universities must show equal commitment in protecting their right to protest outside of events. Yet, disrupting a class or event from within these spaces is a denial of the essential commitment of higher education to the free exchange of ideas.
She appears to be a criminal teaching criminals studies and techniques.
Notice they are all so-called….WOMEN?????
@Skirmishet
Yep. That this idiot thinks because she is ‘faculty’ somehow absolves her from all that is problematic about her – really, folks; we are going to have to burn this to the ground and start over. Her age is telling, her mentality is telling, it bespeaks a great deal about immigration law and practices over the past 20 years (thanks, Obama) and we are now ruing the day we decided real education was not important and that there was some mythical ‘real world’ kids would eventually bump up against. Garbage. We did this. We have to fix it. And it is not going to be fun. Not even a little bit fun. But it is absolutely necessary.
Jonathan: I see a pattern here. “Free speech” demands that right-wing racist pundits, like Ann Coulter, be given a forum at Cornell. Any student or faculty member who objects should be expelled or fired. Where does it say in the Constitution that free expression must be confined outdoors?
So what was the title of Coulter’s address that caused so much controversy? “Immigration: the Conspiracy to End America”. That alone should have been a give away of what Coulter had to say. In her speech Coulter trotted all her usual anti-immigrant and racist tropes. Here’s a sampling:
–“Never in history has a country just decided to turn itself into another country [Mexico] like this”.
–“Why does every sad sack in the world have to come to this country? What’s the trade-off with bringing millions of people from incredibly backward cultures who do no speak the language?”
— “The pushcart operator from Pakistan who doesn’t speak his his own language–never mind ours–gets precedence over a surgeon from Denmark”. Coulter doesn’t like family reunification–where immigrants might want to join family members who are US citizens.
So what did Professor Cornejo, herself an immigrant, say to Coulter? She said: “I really appreciate your coming in and talking about these issue, that way I get to know how many racist people belong to this University”. Coulter is a Cornell alumnus. When Cornejo tried to ask a question, Coulter cut her off: “You got your chance. We’re moving on to the next question”. That prompted Cornejo to shout at Coulter–who called in the campus police to remove Cornejo–after which Coulter called Cornejo a “child”. The whole incident could have been prevented had Coulter just allowed Cornejo to ask her question. Obviously, Coulter probably wouldn’t have liked the question–so she cut off any further debate. Not exactly a commitment to free expression.
What is interesting, and something you don’t discuss, is who invited Coulter to speak on the campus? It was Prof. Randy Wayne who teaches a course “Light and Life”. Wayne promotes a fringe theory about the nature of light–not accepted by most scientists. Wayne also opposes Cornell’s DEI policies. He objected to his department’s statement that Cornell was “founded on and perpetuates various injustices including federal colonialism, indigenous dispossession, slavery, classism, sexism, transphobia, homophobia and anti-semitism”. Wayne wrote to his department head saying he did not agree with any of the statements.
There is an interesting part of Cornell’s history that illustrates some problems with its past. Cornell is noteworthy because of its famous botanical gardens–covering over 3,000 acres. It was a goal of its founders but was not realized until 1932. But the new gardens were named “Plantation Gardens”–a word associated with slavery. Over many years starting in the 1960s there were student protests over the name. Finally, in 2016 Cornell decided to change the name to “Cornell Botanical Gardens”. More than 80% of faculty and staff supported the name change.
Wayne has taught at Cornell since 1987. Don’t know but I expect Wayne would have been among the 20% who opposed the name change. That would be consistent with Wayne’s motivation in inviting Coulter to speak. He shares her white supremacist views. And that also speaks volumes about who you choose to endorse–who you think have a right to speak at Cornell.
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Dennis,
You keep trying to game the constitution.
The constitution does not require that free speech is indoors or outdoors.
It DOES require that wherever it is restrictions must be viewpoint neutral.
Therefore you can not say – Counter must speak in a in a sound proof underground vault so that no one can hear.
You do not seem to grasp that the right to free speech includes the right to hear.
On college campuses the norm is that Colleges provide funds to various student groups – like BLM or YAF.
Those groups are then free to use those funds for events – such as speakers. All groups have the same access to funds – usually set by their membership. All groups have the same access to campus fascilities for events.
It does not matter if Coutler’s speech was “More efficient was to gas jews”. If a student group invited her – you are free to protest,
You are not free to disrupt the event.
This is a Fire Video of a prior Coulter speech at Cornell uses as a legal instructor regarding what you can NOT do.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVCJ_QVOrR4
I would note that FIRE does not address the fact that the disruptions appear to be coordinated – when one heckler is removed another starts effectively making the speech impossible. A coordinated effort to suppress speech is actually a crime.
EXACTLY the same rules apply regarding the Trump Trial in NYC – which is why Merchan’s gag order is unconstitutional.
Merchan has the power to preserve order within his courtroom. That is all. Outside the courtroom he has no control over either the content or anything else about the speech of Trump or others.
While Trump has appealed the gag order the reason that Judges frequently get away with this nonsense is because the process of appealing the gag order takes longer than the trial. The Law is actually quite clear and applies to federal and state courts. Outside the courtroom the Judge has no control over the speech of others. In the event that a defendants speech is ACTUALLY illegal – they can be separately charged to that.
“So what did Professor Cornejo, herself an immigrant, say to Coulter?”
It does not matter what she “said” it matters what she did. She disrupted the event. She sought to silence someone else.
She was not an invited speaker. Prof. Conejo is free to schedule her own event speaking on whatever she wants.
She is free to protest Coulter’s speech in anyway that does not impair the right of Coulter to speak or the right of her audience to hear what she has to say.
As is typical of your immature and shallow understanding of law, rights – pretty much everything.
You seem to think that the right to free speech means the right to create anarchy.
That is absurd. Your view or rights devolves quickly into only those willing to behave most egregiously have any rights.
That view of rights is most commonly reflected in communist systems.
BTW it is irrelevant who invited Coulter to Cornell. Further YOU are ignorant of the FACTS.
Coulter was REINVITED specifically because at her last cornell event disruption and violence made the continuing impossible.
As to “fringe” – Cornejeo is part of the college of Agriculture – HER focus has NOTHING to do with agriculture.
Apparently she could not get a job at the colleges of humanities or social sciences.
Either that or Cornell is busy trying to destroy its effective departments.
A college is free to teach whatever it wants in whatever departments it wishes.
But ultimately the reputation of the college – and its ability to attract students and the tuition that comes with them, and the alumuni contributions is based on the real world success of its alumni’s.
We need engineers who know how to build bridges and rockets. The primary role of colleges is to produce the most productive members of our society, the people who raise the standard of living for all of us.
Those colleges that fail at that can only live off their past reputations for so long.
Slowly the chickens are coming home to roost.
John Say,
Absurd is right.
Well said and I look forward to reading your other epic take down of Dennis.
John Say: Anyone on this blog who thinks you know something about the law should consider your false claim the “Merchan’s gag order is unconstitutional”. No court has declared gag orders are unconstitutional per se. Courts will review gag orders to determine if they are overly broad. See Supreme Court decisions in Carroll v. Princess Anne (1968) and Nebraska Press Ass’n v. Stuart (1976).
In every jurisdiction around the country judges have the power to impose gag orders on attorneys, parties, or witnesses to prevent out of court statements that could be prejudicial to a fair trial. That particularly applies to DJT criminal trial where he continues to attack witnesses, Judge Merchan and family members. DJT has appealed Merchan’s gag order. Pay attention to see whether the NY Appellate Division finds the order “unconstitutional”. You will probably be disappointed!
Of course, you would know about gag orders had you taken a law school course in Criminal Procedure. Without that experience you demonstrate your complete ignorance of the law by falsely claiming “outside the courtroom the Judge has no control over the speech of others”. You don’t know what you are talking about when it comes to the law. But we have known that for a long time!
I want to address another delusion of yours.
Colleges are not run by students. They are not run by faculty. They are run by an administration that is answerable to a board, that is answerable to major donors.
While some aspects of the administration of colleges are severely distorted by Government funding, ultimately the success or failure of a college is determined by its ability to take in capable students and make them even more productive.
To turn them into the captains of industry.
If the results of a college education do not make you able to produce more value – both for yourself and others – then that education is a failure.
What constitutes value is oddly enough decided by consensus – guided by reality – but in a quite different way that you seem to imagine.
The success or failure of “Light and life” will not be decided by the concensus of scientists, but by how well it works in the real world as determined by people as a whole – the “Free Market”.
Because that is all the free market is – people deciding what is important to them. We each produce more of what others value so that we can consume more of what we value. What we chose to consume directs ourselves and others as to what we value and theirfore what we and others should produce.
It is a system designed to continually raise everyone’s standard of living – NOTHING else does that.
DEI is garbage – but it is not my word on that that is important – it is that it negatively contributes to raising our standard of living.
In fact ALL left wing nonsense has a long history of failure.
In an earlier post you were Ranting that House republicans were not working to make healthcare and housing affordable.
Isn’t affordable healthcare a signature achievement of the Obama administration ? Haven’t democrats been legislatiging affordable housing for 60 years ?
That we still have massive problems is evidence of FAILURE – YOUR FAILURE.
Look at EVERYTHING – the greater its distance from government the less government subsidies it receives, the less government regulation it is subjected to, the lower its cost and the higher its quality and the greater its abundance.
The one thing that will assure that healthcare is not affordable is more government involvement.
The one thing that will assure that housing is not affordable is more government.
Ultimately Cornell answers to the free market – not students, not professors.
There is a massive amount of inertia in higher education – that is not new.
But we are already starting to see the start of course reversal.
We have reached and exceeded peak woke. We have reached peak idiocy.
The left has FAILED and is in decline.
John Say,
Again well said.
The Affordable Care Act was anything but affordable. Even Democrats said so when it was too obvious to ignore.
Affordable housing crisis is Bidenflation at work. During the Trump admin, someone making $58k a year could afford a home. Now, with Bidenflation, it is $106k and 20% down.
You belong in a cell with the ‘faculty member’… but your ilk prefers gulags, so head over to your Utopian ideal in NK, Cuba, or China.
You state that, “Wayne promotes a fringe theory about the nature of light–not accepted by most scientists.” Could you expound upon this a little bit? I’ve given his background a cursory check and he appears to me to be well grounded in the field of plant biology, but I didn’t see where he made any claim to expertise in particle physics, radiative transfer or quantum theory. Please regale us with your acumen in QED.
Thanks!
Anonymous: I don’t know anything about plant biology. My source for the “fringe theory” was Wikipedia that described Wayne’s theory as outside the mainstream of scientists who follow “evolutionary” theory. Of course, we know that sometimes “fringe” theories eventually become the mainstream. I’m not qualified to speak on that subject.
The emphasis in my comment was Wayne’s endorsement of Coulter’s racist views–that non-white immigrants are inherently inferior. Wayne opposes Cornell’s DEI policy statements. I watched a video of Wayne being interviewed that confirms his views. The fact that Wayne invited Coulter to speak at Cornell speaks volumes about his views on race and ethnicity. That’s not based on science but Wayne’s personal views–something that might also put his plant biology “fringe” theory in question.
Folks like the subject of today are true Nihilists, giving nothing of substance except their diphtheria of thought. I’ll post the meaning of Nihilism from https://iep.utm.edu/nihilism for consideration. One could also look at the meaning of ‘object relations theory’ proposed by M Klein or Freud, or ‘objective idealism’ by Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel as singular Absolutes. Fools who whip their nothingness into a cause should be shunned and rejected!
“Nihilism
Nihilism is the belief that all values are baseless and that nothing can be known or communicated. It is often associated with extreme pessimism and a radical skepticism that condemns existence. A true nihilist would believe in nothing, have no loyalties, and no purpose other than, perhaps, an impulse to destroy. While few philosophers would claim to be nihilists, nihilism is most often associated with Friedrich Nietzsche who argued that its corrosive effects would eventually destroy all moral, religious, and metaphysical convictions and precipitate the greatest crisis in human history. In the 20th century, nihilistic themes–epistemological failure, value destruction, and cosmic purposelessness–have preoccupied artists, social critics, and philosophers. Mid-century, for example, the existentialists helped popularize tenets of nihilism in their attempts to blunt its destructive potential. By the end of the century, existential despair as a response to nihilism gave way to an attitude of indifference, often associated with antifoundationalism.
It has been over a century now since Nietzsche explored nihilism and its implications for civilization. As he predicted, nihilism’s impact on the culture and values of the 20th century has been pervasive, its apocalyptic tenor spawning a mood of gloom and a good deal of anxiety, anger, and terror. Interestingly, Nietzsche himself, a radical skeptic preoccupied with language, knowledge, and truth, anticipated many of the themes of postmodernity. It’s helpful to note, then, that he believed we could–at a terrible price–eventually work through nihilism. If we survived the process of destroying all interpretations of the world, we could then perhaps discover the correct course for humankind.”
And in today’s news regarding Truth Social stock (DJT) we have the classic dead cat bounce. For the rubes here who invested in this POS the definition is as follows:
“A dead cat bounce is a term used in financial markets to describe a temporary recovery in the price of a security or stock that has been experiencing significant downward price movement. The term is derived from the idea that even a dead cat will bounce if it falls from a high enough height.”
This may be followed by a short squeeze wherein those who have shorted this stock panic and have to buy to cover their short positions, thus driving the price a little higher. However once this plays out to its finality the stock will collapse to zero.
This has always been the pattern for worthless stocks that have been manipulated by shady characters.
The individuals who started this company are currently under investigation by the SEC for insider trading. Trump is suing his partners who tried to swindle him. And now we know that when DWAC ( the SPAC that became DJT) was close to insolvency it was saved by a “loan” from Paxum Bank in Dominica. This bank is owned by a Russian with close ties to Putin. Its business is mostly to provide finance to the porn industry.
With Trump there is always a Russian connection and always a porn connection.
The pattern of dead cat bounce, followed by short squeeze, followed by total collapse is inevitable. The classic example of this was the ENRON collapse back in 2000.
The rubes holding this stock will lose everything!!!!!
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You posted this same comment in the next comment section regarding the resignation of Uri Berliner. You must really think it is brilliant. Dead cats are a very funny subject.
You are correct!!!!!
I think this is absolutely hilarious, but not because of dead cats.
You miss the point. The hilarity derives from the stupidity of the MAGA morons who invest in this trash.
Because you say so ? If you bought DJT stock at the moment it opened – you have lost nothing.
Regardless the market will sort this all out.
Your “analysis” shows small familiarity with a few investing terms – but no understanding of their meaning.
You do not know anything about how and why the market values companies, and what shorts are or mean.
John Say,
Well said.
Yeah, what do I know. I’m just a retired grumpy old geezer in his late seventies who has been investing for 50 years.
Got nothing better to do than sit around all day on my computer, watching the market and making lots of money.
Occasionally, just for fun, I like to harass MAGA morons like you.
Since you are such an expert on how the markets work, perhaps you could explain things for poor ignorant people like me.
What are your views on technical analysis?
Edwardmahl,
He is a moron, not worthy of consideration or attention.
Just scroll past.
That is what I do.
Struck a nerve here I think!!!
How much have you lost so far?????
ATS – what have you been right about ? EVER ?
If you were right about DJT stock – which you are self evidently not.
Your enron comparison makes it clear you have no idea how stocks are valued.
Enron collapsed because its management engaged in high risk investments that failed spectacularly.
It was ultimately worth nothing – because it was litterally worth nothing.
The market value of DJT rests on the value of the alternate social, media companies that make up DJT.
Investors are not yet clear on exactly how large that value is.
We may be witnessing the equivalent of the birth of Fox in the early 90’s.
Or Trump’s social media companies may just be a niche.
We do not know yet.
Muck buying Twitter likely upset the value of DJT – the more Truth, Rumble, Locales are alternates to Twitter and Facebook and youtube the more valuable they are. But the more responsive to the free market that the big social media players are the less valuable DJT is.
Again the patter in much like Fox in the early 90’s.
Had the MSM responded to Fox in the 90’s by incorporating more conservative voices – Fox would have died.
Now they dwarf the rest of the MSM.
John Say,
Another well said comment.
I, personally, stay away from SM stock. Only invest in hard assets that have real world value, like commodities, utilities, actual physical assets like semi-conductors, heavy manufacturing, real infrastructure projects/bonds. I am going long on energy and nuclear mostly SMR.
And, of course, chickens, PMs, ammo and my own personal health.
Your analogy with Fox is bizarre to say the least, but clearly reveals your MAGA leanings.
Fox was founded by Rupert Murdoch in 1986, as the crowning achievement of a lifetime of building a huge media empire that spanned the globe. In other words he already knew what he was doing. He has a true genius for establishing these types of businesses, I must reluctantly admit.
Truth Social, on the other hand was founded by a bunch clowns and con-men. DWAC, the SPAC with which DJT merged, was created by ARC Capital based in Shanghai, China. This Chinese company is run by Patrick Orlando, a long time miscreant and con-man who was the subject of multiple SEC investigations. His specialty is assisting Chinese companies to illegally secure listings on American stock exchanges through a hidden network of shell companies. As a side note everyone knows that if you want to do business in China, then the Chinese government will control you.
Now on to the CEO of Truth Social. None other than Devin Nunes, the alleged farmer from California who has never owned a farm in California. His only gainful employment has been as a member of Congress. He clearly has the qualifications to run a media company just like Rupert Murdoch. Wouldn’t you agree?
There is simply no meaningful comparison between Fox and Truth Social. You are delusional if you think otherwise.
Truth Social will fail in bankruptcy just as Trump’s many other businesses have failed. He lost money running a casino for gods sake. Running a casino is basically a license to print money.
“[I]f you want to do business in China, then the Chinese government will control you.”
You sure you want to make that point?
Your Nunes “bio” is a work of fiction.
The economic analysis of Morons tends to be very funny.
Many factors effect the value of DJT stock. Probably the most significant in the short run will be supreme court decisions on social media censorship. If those decisions are pro-censorship – the value of SM companies that eschew censorship will rise. If those decisions are pro free speech the value of current free speech platforms will decline.
You are out of your mind!!!
The only thing that real, knowledgeable investors like me care about are the numbers.
Truth Social lost $58 million in the last year.
They had revenues of $4 million. That is the typical revenue of your average neighborhood McDonalds franchise.
Despite this abysmal performance, Devin Nunes was paid a bonus of $600,000. This is gross financial mismanagement.
Believe me, like most of Trump’s businesses this one is headed for bankruptcy.
Everything Trump touches eventually turns to SH!T.
“. . . investors like me care about are the numbers.”
Which numbers have the lifespan of a gnat.
Amazon lost some $3-billion (that’s *billion* with a “b”) over the first 4 years after its IPO. Uber’s stock tanked after its IPO. Now it’s up some 80%.
That you compare tech IPO’s to fast food businesses shows your ignorance (or worse).
Enron collapsed because of poor financial management that destroyed the ACTUAL value of the company.
There are legitimate questions as to the actual value of DJT’s media company. But there is ZERO debate that it has REAL value. The only question is how much.
Regardless DJT stock is now trading at very close to its opening price
Your free to rant all you want.
But ultimately the free market will determine the actual value of DJT – not you, and the Free market is quite good at that.
The value of DJT stock has to decline by 1400% For Trump’s actual wealth to be below what is was before it was publicly traded.
You are absolutely correct!!!
Enron collapsed due to poor financial management, just as DJT will collapse from poor financial management.
Here are the numbers for DJT for the past year:
Revenue: $4 million
Losses: $58 million
For this performance CEO Devin Nunes collected a $600,000 bonus. That amount is 15% of revenues. On top of that, his base salary was $750,000 for a total of $1,350,000 in compensation. That means he collected 34% of the total company revenue while losing $58 million.
If you think this is sound financial management then I might interest you in buying a very fine bridge in Brooklyn.
You are also quite correct that the market will eventually determine the value of this company, and I can assure you that value will be zero.
“. . . buying a very fine bridge in Brooklyn.”
Or perhaps Facebook stock.
Shortly after its IPO, Facebook plummeted from $38/share to $18/share. Today, it’s pushing $500/share.
You are mind numbingly ignorant about the history of tech startups and their IPO’s.
I do not have a crystal ball, but there are many reasons to suspect that DJT stock has a strong future.
the DJT stock is about more than Truth social – it is actually a complete alternate independnet social media infrastructure.
My guess is that investing in DJT right now, is like founding Fox in the early 90’s.
Regardless we shall see.
Twitter:
11/7/2013 $44.90
6/3/2014 $32.58
5/20/16 $14.43
Meta:
5/21/2012 $31.12
11/8/2012 $19.97
7/11/2013 $25.78
Sigh. The people running and working in our universities are idiots, in the truest sense, and I don’t know what to say anymore. If you are a parent still wasting your money on this garbage, perhaps you need help, too. This person is no longer an exception, they are the literal rule. Your kids aren’t learning anything but how to be hateful and live on their knees at university.
James: “This person is no longer an exception, they are the literal rule.” So true.
Aspiration and inspiration have been reduced to placation.
@lin
Completely. and I am not a partisan, I say these things out of benefit for hopefully everyone, whomever they are. This is a big, big, problem, and it’s too profitable for anyone to have the guts to do anything about it. and thinking that’s a fault in capitalism is precisely what privileged cronies would say. I honestly do not know how we bridge the gap at this point. Even our host is in that generational class, and anything that is offered kinda sounds like charity. All I can say is thank God the states have their own powers. We have to stand up for that no mater what; federal rule will make us into India, or Venezuela, or Brazil, or Pakistan, or Juarez, or Cape Town, or Haiti, or Nigeria. Let it be noted that these are all places have immigrated from, hoping for something better. The dems will never make that a reality. and the leftist trolls on this site could likely not even pick out any of those places on a map. Pfft. 🙄
Shoot. That was me, James, the blue icon. I am not anonymous. Sorry, I am working and doing this amidst a bunch of other stuff. Thank you for your comment, and I thank our hosts for the opportunity to respond and correct myself.
The ideal professor: well-spoken, well-dressed, well-groomed, well-respected and regarded, well-versed in topic or subject, well-matured, well-prepared to respectfully handle things…
(wait, are we talking about Professor Turley?) (No, I am not one of his former or current students)
I find Sam’s comment today (@9:38) particularly truthful and reflectively sad. I too can remember a time when we actually respected professors and academicians, who taught us, by example, how to behave in an adult world, -the real world after school.
(Part of this transformation even relates to dress code. Every one of my college and law school professors always LOOKED professional (business suit or other professional garb, pleasant meet-and-greet overall appearance, mature demeanor, etc.)
But when you look up the photographs and biographies of the female professors mentioned above by Professor Turley (Cornejo, Click, Rodriguez, Thatcher, Milller-Young)–every one of them looks like a woman unhappy with herself and taking it out on others.
(Interesting that the majority of them focus their disruptive protestation on topics of gender and sexual orientation, reproduction, and minority status….hmmm.) Take the time to look at their bios/photographs. They clearly have axes to grind. Look to me like adult children with unresolved issues involving “self.” (just my humble opinion)
Seriously, how can you respect a dishonest individual who wormed her way into a ridiculous sinecure at Cornell University. She produces nothing but trouble. She deserves no respect. She is not a scholar in any sense of the word and agitates in a fake department.
??????????? how did you read my comment to suggest that I “respected” her?
Lin – I think the “how can you respect” language is agreeing with you, as in emphasizing your point.
Yours as always,
Uncle Henry
(hope so. it was the “Seriously,” that threw me a bit…) thanks
Well, I’m not a Cornellian so there’s that. Mea Culpa.
Sidebar: As I raised the certain reality of trump’s media conglomerate being absolutely ripe for short sellers to take your money (and I’d be shocked if some on this blog didn’t ignore those warnings and promptly lost their investment), we should be aware there may some opportunities to bottom bounce with the stock as it reaches it’s true worth…probably in the 3-5 dollar range.
I myself wouldn’t touch it though. Those shares are trash. Just another trump con.
..perhaps ‘Anonymouth’ can explain to us WHY just because this normal expected volatile IPO event & all of it’s normal blitzed aftemath involves President Trump that it’s a ‘con?’ Surely you must realize that this ‘event’ and all it’s tumultuous activity is a normal financial world happening.. To say it is a ‘con’ just because DT is involved sounds like MSNBC trolling quasi libelous propaganda…………… BS.
This is absolutely NOT normal.
You are correct that this is not a con just because Trump is involved. There are multiple other cons involved.
Truth Social was founded by a bunch clowns and con-men. DWAC, the SPAC with which DJT merged, was created by ARC Capital based in Shanghai, China. This Chinese company is run by Patrick Orlando, a long time miscreant and con-man who was the subject of multiple SEC investigations. His specialty is assisting Chinese companies to illegally secure listings on American stock exchanges through a hidden network of shell companies. As a side note everyone knows that if you want to do business in China, then the Chinese government will control you.
So this whole operation is not a con simply because Trump is involved. He is just one of many con-men running ARC Capital in China. The Chinese government itself is almost certainly involved as well.
ATS – then don’t.
Ultimately the value of DJT is not going to be decided by left wing nuts or right wing nuts.
It is not even going to be decided by investors. or the stock market.
It is going to be decided by the free market – by the growth or decline of the social media accounts involved.
John Say:
Grumpy old geezer here again.
Again you you show your abysmal ignorance of the stock market. A classical example of the Dunning-Kruger effect (Google it), which basically says ignorant people are too ignorant to know how ignorant they are.
You state that the value of DJT will be decided not by investors or the stock market, but by the “free market”.
What, pray tell, is your understanding of the free market of which you speak. Are there no investors in this “free market”. Is the stock market not a “free market”.
The stock market and investors are synonymous. They are one and the same, indivisible. How will the value of DJT be established in the absence of investors or the stock market. Is the “free market” going to arbitrarily impose “value” on the price of DJT.
Biden Calls For Tripling Tariffs On Chinese Steel Ahead Of Speech In Swing State Of Pennsylvania
Biden channelling Trump – only more stupidly.
Trump visits bodega where worker who was cleared of murder stabbed ex-con to death in self-defense: Harlem crowd chants ‘four more years’ and little kids cry ‘we love you’ as ex-president gets hero’s welcome
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13316465/Trump-bodega-murder-self-defense-trial.html
Trans ‘vampire’ woman sexually assaulted teen, charged in death of disabled man
https://nypost.com/2024/04/16/us-news/trans-woman-who-identifies-as-vampire-sexually-assaulted-teen-charged-in-death-of-disabled-man/
jealousy rears its ugly head. At least Trump had that much spare money to play around with.
ATS – you clearly have no idea how short selling works.
Short sellers do not “take your money”
Are you aware of anyone shorting DJT to a value of $3-5 I am not.
Your confusing your politically biased hopes with reality.
Though substantially – different – we hear this same nonsense regarding Bitcoin.
Which is highly volatile, but I wish I have my IRA in it rather than the small holdings I have.
Regardless, many factors effect the value that DJT stock will eventually settle at. And the market still can not figure that out.
Enron tanked because the management literally destroyed the capital of the company.
Enron is the perfect example that people who do not understand what they are talking about should stay far away from investing.
Do you know Why Enron collapsed ?
John Say:
Ahhh!!! You have finally revealed your complete ignorance of how the stock market works!!!
Grumpy old geezer here again!!!
You state “Are you aware of anyone shorting DJT to a value of $3-5 I am not.”
You clearly do not understand how shorting works. You do not short a stock to a specific value. You cannot know the specifics of any short position initiated by an investor. Shorting a stock requires the investor to “borrow” stock from another investor through a broker. The investor then sells the borrowed stock and holds the proceeds. The investor hopes the stock price falls. When the price falls sufficiently, the investor then buys the stock at the lower price, returns it to the entity from which it was borrowed, and keeps the difference in the price. There is no such thing as shorting to a specific price.
Conversely, if the stock price rises, the shorting investor will lose money because he has to buy back the stock at a higher price than he sold the borrowed stock. If the stock sky-rockets the shorting investor may be forced by his broker to cover the short whether he wants to or not. This can happen when a large proportion of the stock is sold short and the “real” owners want to sell. This forces the broker buy the stock on behalf of the short investor, and force him into a loss. This can sometimes spiral into a short squeeze, where forced purchases of stock drives the price even higher until all the short positions are liquidated. What follows is almost certain collapse of the stock price.
Let me know if you have any other questions about how the stock markets work.
Decorum would be great, in most situations.
Perhaps more Q & A sessions after lectures would help people be ‘heard’?
But will add that protests helped bring about the end of the Vietnam War.
Also that so much of our ‘news’ these days is presented as AGAINST something.
Not just the down-the-middle honest facts. All spin, all of the time.
No wonder so many people are so extra stirred up about everything.
-Cat
But will add that protests helped bring about the end of the Vietnam War.
Which is a point against them. Treason in the 1970s was no better than treason today. And if the traitors then had been thrown in prison where they belonged, the communists would not have been allowed to conquer and enslave South Vietnam, and millions of people would have been saved from death and slavery.
Has the professor corrupted the subject matter she is hired to teach? Interpersonal communication skills are behaviors that help persons interact with others effectively. She has quite clearly missed the mark.
https://www.berkeleywellbeing.com/interpersonal-communication.html
Coulter can spread her racist logic. Faculty can protest it loudly. C’mon…, let’s make America great again, ayy?
Another fascist that says stopping speech is free speech.
It might be a helpful move to mandate all entering 1st year undergrads to sit through a course on what the school expects of them in their first semester, including how to voice one’s objections without being a disruptor, including examples of what demeanor looks like, and including what the consequences will be for even a 1st-time ‘offense,’ and subsequent offences. “If you don’t want to learn on THIS campus, go elsewhere.”
Of course, Professors who become agitators should also know there are consequences for specific behaviors, including being terminated for cause.
I watched the video you linked and did not see why the police were escorting her out. She told the police not to touch her, which was appropriate.
Maybe she did something earlier, but I do not see the tape here.
No, it was not appropriate. The police have every right to touch her, and she has no right to object. That she is a faculty member doesn’t give her any right not to be arrested.
But she’s already a criminal anyway. “Undocumented” means she broke into the country, so she’s no better than a common burglar.
It’s pretty obvious she did something earlier. It’s not like the cops just randomly went up to her for no reason, to escort her out. The problem is that the videotape linked above doesn’t show exactly what she did.
While American colleges show us that conservative voices are unwelcome, and even unknown, there, Joe Biden and the Democrats are “forgiving” more millions of dollars in student loan debt. Daily Mail: “Biden unveils another plan to wipe up to $20,000 in student loan debt for up 25 million borrowers… as his bill for forgiveness reaches $153 billion” https://www.dailymail.co.uk/ushome/index.html
edwardmahl,
Paid for by all those who did pay for their own college debt, and those who did not go to college.
@Upstatefarmer – On top of the slap to the face, these “students” spent 4 to 5 years obtaining degrees there’s no market for, except maybe if the government put’s them on a government payroll. So we’re damned if we do and damned if we don’t.
Edward – the Babylon Bee had a recent op-ed entitled:
If Jesus supports forgiveness, how can Christians not support robbing poor people to pay for my journalism degree?
Student Debt Plan Would Add Hundreds of Billions to Deficit
https://www.crfb.org/blogs/student-debt-plan-would-add-hundreds-billions-deficit
“one of the first undocumented tenure-track faculty members at Cornell.”
“Undocumented” another reason for closely vetting before entry into the nation and deportation. What is an undocumented individual being considered for tenure while there are U.S. citizens seeking these positions?
She’s an illegal?? I missed that! Then she needs to be deported.
If Dr Cornejo is an undocumented immigrant, then she does NOT have the right to free speech or the right to protest in the United States. If she is so smart to be a college professor, why doesn’t she put her energy into becoming a naturalized US citizen?
The Supreme Court should decide that we have freedom of speech. Doing so will prevent such incidents as these.
NY State Code §240.20 – Disorderly conduct
A person is guilty of disorderly conduct when, with intent to cause
public inconvenience, annoyance or alarm, or recklessly creating a risk
thereof:
1. He engages in fighting or in violent, tumultuous or threatening
behavior; or
2. He makes unreasonable noise; or
3. In a public place, he uses abusive or obscene language, or makes an
obscene gesture; or
4. Without lawful authority, he disturbs any lawful assembly or
meeting of persons; or
5. He obstructs vehicular or pedestrian traffic; or
6. He congregates with other persons in a public place and refuses to
comply with a lawful order of the police to disperse; or
7. He creates a hazardous or physically offensive condition by any act
which serves no legitimate purpose.
Disorderly conduct is a violation.
“forcibly removed . . . disrupting a speech”
Some 40 years ago, I attended a guest lecture at UC Berkeley by a pro-reason, pro-America philosopher. The host was a tenured, then-typical Berkeley professor.
During the entire lecture, the host sat not ten feet away, quietly and respectfully. Then after, during the Q&A, he made his disagreements known — via arguments, persuasion, an appeal to reason.
Both were extraordinarily knowledgeable and articulate. It was an ideal *educational* experience. I, for instance, disagreed with the host. But he made me realize that his side had *arguments* that I could not answer. After the event, there was vigorous *intellectual* debate among the attendees.
It is truly tragic to see how far academia has fallen.
Sam: Comment of the Day award! Thank you
lin: YW.
The disruptions listed happen to be female. This behavior of anger and violence may be due to hormonal imbalances particularly at menopause.
Someone has also found a link between single childless females and transgenders. The trans may have such a person near and the female is attempting to destroy the transgenders mother’s children a form of bitterness and envy. Take a closer look.
“Dr. Monica Cornejo is an Assistant Professor in Interpersonal Communication in the Department of Communication at the College of Agriculture and Life Sciences”
Why is there a Department of Communication in the College of Agriculture and Life Sciences? That should be in the College of Liberal Arts. Geez, is Dr. Doolittle on faculty, too?
On a separate note, colleges are fraught with irony lately. Professors of Interpersonal Communication who do not model excellence in interpersonal Communication in real life. Funny, but seriously disappointing. Glad Kotlikoff appears to be dealing with it properly.
“. . . an Assistant Professor in Interpersonal Communication in the Department of Communication at the College of Agriculture and Life Sciences.”
Another useless degree. Tells you everything you need to know right there.