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Want to Defeat Joe Biden? Look to the 1800 Election and Make Free Speech the Key Issue in 2024

Below is my column in USA Today on why the opponents of President Joe Biden should make free speech the focus of this election. With the Supreme Court taking an off ramp in Murthy v. Missouri on Internet censorship, the free speech community is left, for now, with the political process to protect free speech.  It is a potentially unifying issue for many Americans who are alarmed by the current anti-free speech movement. I have previously written that the Biden Administration has chilling analogies to the Adams Administration in the weaponization of the legal system and the crackdown on free speech. What should most concern Biden is the possibility of another aspect of history repeating itself: a defeat like the one in 1800.

Here is the column:

Since his dystopian speech outside of Independence Hall in 2022, President Joe Biden has made “democracy is on the ballot” his campaign theme. Pundits have repeated the mantra, claiming that if Biden is not elected, American democracy will perish.

While some of us have challenged these predictions, the other presidential candidates are missing a far more compelling argument going into this election. While democracy is not on the ballot this election, free speech is.

The 2024 election is looking strikingly similar to the election of 1800 and, if so, it does not bode well for Biden.

In my book “The Indispensable Right: Free Speech in an Age of Rage,” released last week, I discuss our long struggle with free speech as a nation. It is an unvarnished history with powerful stories of our heroes and villains in the struggle to define what Justice Louis Brandeis called our “indispensable right.”

One of the greatest villains in that history was President John Adams, who used the Alien and Sedition Acts to arrest his political opponents – including journalists, members of Congress and others. Many of those prosecuted by the Adams administration were Jeffersonians. In the election of 1800, Thomas Jefferson ran on the issue and defeated Adams.

Government efforts to limit free speech are Orwellian

We are now seeing what is arguably the most dangerous anti-free speech movement in our history. President Joe Biden is, in my view, the most anti-free speech president since Adams. Under his administration, we have seen a massive censorship system funded and directed by the government.

A federal judge described the system as “Orwellian” in its scope and impact.

Biden has repeatedly called for greater censorship and accused social media companies of “killing people” by not silencing more dissenting voices. Other Democrats such as Sen. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts have pushed for restrictions on “unacceptable” speech.

The Biden administration seeks to censor even true statements as disinformation.

For example, I testified before Congress last year on how Jen Easterly, who heads the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency, extended her agency’s mandate over critical infrastructure to include “our cognitive infrastructure.” The resulting censorship efforts included combating “malinformation” – described as information “based on fact, but used out of context to mislead, harm, or manipulate.”

The left has picked up the cudgels of censorship and blacklisting once used against them. During the McCarthy period, liberals were called “communist sympathizers.” Now, conservative justices are called “insurrectionist sympathizers.”

Candidates should call out Biden on censorship

In this election, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., Jill Stein, Donald Trump and Cornel West should talk about the threats against free speech at every debate and stump speech. They will have to overcome a news media that has been complicit in the attacks on free speech, but these candidates can break through by raising it as a key issue dividing Biden from the rest of the field.

Democrats and the news media have hammered away at cracking down on those accused of “disinformation.” The public, however, has not been won over by those seeking to limit their right of free speech or the push to amend the First Amendment because it’s too “aggressively individualistic.”

So far, the anti-free speech movement has flourished largely in the echo chambers of academia and the media. It is time for the public to render its judgment.

As discussed in my book, we are hardwired for free speech. It is in our DNA. Despite these periods of crackdowns on free speech, we have always rejected those who wanted to regulate the views of others. Jefferson called the Federalists “the reign of the witches.” (Ironically, Jefferson would himself prosecute critics, though not to the same extent as Adams).

Attacks on free speech have returned with a vengeance before another presidential election. After fighting in the courts and in the public to expand censorship, Biden should now have to defend it with the voters. Let’s have at it, as we did in 1800.

Free speech is again on the ballot. It is time for the public to decide.

Jonathan Turley is the Shapiro Professor of Public Interest Law at George Washington University and the author of “The Indispensable Right: Free Speech in an Age of Rage.”

405 thoughts on “Want to Defeat Joe Biden? Look to the 1800 Election and Make Free Speech the Key Issue in 2024”

  2. Dennis McIntyre says:June 26, 2024 at 9:31 PM
    Jonathan,

    In more important news, Jerry Nadler has lost his bra. I wonder what Melania thinks of that.

    If Trump gets back in office, Nadlers bra will never be found.

  3. It seems MAGA fanatics are turning on justice Barrett. Because they are too ignorant they can’t understand why a conservative justice, a Trump appointee didn’t rule in their favor. Perhaps because she ruled according to the law. Not her personal opinion or ideology like Alito and Thomas. Sometimes MAGA nuttiness is too much even for conservative justices like Barrett. At least she IS sticking to her principles. What a shocker.

    2. I don’t care if Alito and Thomas have been opining as originalists since 30 years before MAGA. I can say stupid shit like that if I want to. Free Speech gives me the right to act like a spastic.

    3. Watch, as I deflect from the loss of my narrative on the right wing cabal that is SCOTUS.

      1. Svelaz…so right

        Yea, this SCOTUS NEVER gets a ruling right, until they do.

        Just a bunch of political hacks who fvck up and get it right on accident.

        1. It’s all for the good of the people. That’s all I care about.

    4. George – the decision was based on STANDING.

      All that means is that Barrett/SCOTUS does not like the party bringing the lawsuit.
      The other basis presented was that The Biden admin had STOPPED the bad behavior – allegedly.
      There is a small amount of dicta in the decision – most of which is contradicted by the slightly earlier NTA VS. NYS decision where Sotomayor wrote the opinion for a UNANIMOUS court.

      Is Barrett wrong on Standing ? I am not sure.

      But the decision was a whimp out.

      With respect to “the law, and Constitution” – YOU – Not Barretts claim that the Biden administrations conduct was acceptable is REJECTED by no other than Justice Sotomayor in a 9-0 oppinion in NYS vs NRA.

      The NRA case was simpler – but outside the legal issues of standing and mootness was THE SAME.

      And the conclusion in NYS VS NRA is that the Govenrment can not seek to have third parties restrict speech – PERIOD.

      Either the Sotomayor Decision and the Barrett Decision – decisions in the same term with the same justices are at odds with each other.
      Or the only reason for a different outcome in Missouri were issues of form and process – such as STANDING – NOT actual constitutional issues

      And yes it is proper for free speech advocates to piss on Barrett and the majority for failing to slap down the Federal government for infringing on constitutional rights.

      As Turely and others have pointed out Social Media companies were absolutely clear –

      they acted at the direction of the federal govenrment and would not have censored but for the request of the federal government,
      and worse still they felt that failure to comply would have negative consequences.

      It is precisely that, that is why the constitutional standard MUST be a bright line. Government may NOT seek to suppress the speech of anyone directly or through third parties – not even if those third parties appear willing, absent the speech ACTUALLY being criminal.

      But the really good news is that long before SCOTUS acted or failed to act that the issue is dead – Because the lefts efforts at censorship have FAILED.

      It is probable that the left successfully tipped the 2020 election as a result of their massive efforts at censorship.

      But the long term consequences have been a loss of trust for the left and the media.

      You wonder why your lawfare against Trump has failed ?

      Atleast part of that is because the left, democrats and the media have lost a substantial portion of the trust they once had.

    1. See below as the COCK SUCKING PEDOPHILE LIAR Dennis brings more disinfo to the blog.

      He can’t help himself, like any “minor attracted adult”

  5. Jonathan: Still licking your wounds over the Murphy v. Missouri 6-3 decision in which the SC found that the Biden administration’s attempts to counter “misinformation” and “disinformation” in social media was not a violation of the 1st Amendment? I know it was a bitter pill to swallow–especially after years by you in arguing just the opposite.

    But instead of moving on you still falsely claim “President Joe Biden is…the most anti-free speech president since Adams. Under his administration, we have seen a massive censorship system funded and directed by the government”. That isn’t what Justice Amy-Coney Barrett found in her opinion for the Court.

    The only actual “censorship” is not coming from the Biden administration. It’s coming in GOP right-wing state legislators and governors who have passed voter suppression laws, book banning, anti-abortion laws, passing anti-LGBTQ+ legislation and forcing school kids to adhere to “Christian values”–all intended to suppress “free speech” prevent citizens from reading the books of their choice, voting for the candidate of their choice or allowing women to access their right to reproductive care–or violating the 1st Amendment by imposing a religious test for school instruction. FL’s Gov. DeSantis is the poster child for such “censorship” around the country where the GOP governs. DJT is a big supporter of that “censorship”. That’s the part you conveniently ignore in your attempt to paint Biden as anti-“free speech”.

    Your column is just one big distraction from the real threats to “free speech” coming from DJT and the GOP!

    1. SC found that the Biden administration’s attempts to counter “misinformation” and “disinformation” in social media was not a violation of the 1st Amendment?

      MISINFORMATION

      Dennis the COCK SUCKING LIAR just cant stop. No standing was the ruling.

      And this guy is supposed to be a lawyer. Uh huh, and the moon is a gaseous ball.

    2. Dennis McIntyre says:June 27, 2024 at 10:13 AM
      DRUG TEST

      Jonathan,

      Now for more important news. There will be a debate tonight. Will Don show up? We know Joe will be there, because KJP told him to.

      Will Melania be there?

      Will the right wing cabal from the SC be there? Is ACB pretending she’s not a political hack, suddenly?

      I must go now, my nephew is calling me. I’m playing doctor today.

    3. Dennis McIntyre says:June 26, 2024 at 9:31 PM
      Jonathan,

      In more important news, Jerry Nadler has lost his bra. I wonder what Melania thinks of that.

      If Trump gets back in office, Nadlers bra will never be found.

    4. +100

      And I love how tosses out a sweeping “democracy isn’t on the ballot” in this push piece. Just because he says so apparently. Despite the open travel directions for its removal in Project 2025.

      I’m still curious whether Turley has worked actively on Project 2025 actually.

      Either way, Turley seems entirely okay with putting the single biggest threat, arguably an active Russian asset, and a clear insurrectionist, back in the oval office.

      All because he’s enraged his employer has to pay up for its defamation practices.

      1. Gigi says:June 26, 2024 at 11:02 PM
        You have no proof that it was Hunter.

        And Trump is the cocaine addict.

        Project 2025 wants my ovaries!

      2. Calling Elvis Bug

        Look dude, that guy, um…uh…Steven Colbert, yea dude, he is looking for you. He really likes your stupid little one liners you’ve been posting lately. Says he wants to hire you. I guess to work his son’s bar mitzva??? He knows you’re gay, but I didn’t tell him about your predilection for little boys. I might’ve promised him that you’d suck his dick though.

      3. Lets make the idiotic assumption that Trump is a russian asset.

        What exactly did Russia get from Trump’s first term ?
        Potin invaded Checknya under Clinton, Georgia under Bush, Crimea under Obama, and Ukraine under Biden.

        Who did Putin invade under Trump ?

        Under Trump the US ramped up its energy sector – reducing the global power of Russia, Iran, Venezuella as well as Saudia Arabia.
        Trump guaranteed Europe US LNG in the event of a conflict with Russia – and Biden was fortunate that the 3 years of work needed to build that infrastructure had been completed by the time Russia invaded Ukraine – or the EU would have begged russia for peace on any terms.

        So what is it that Putin got from his alleged asset Trump ?

        I would separately note that Hunter Biden has been paid Handsomely by Russian Oligarchs, and by Chinese state actors.

        Yet loons like you still play this Trump is a russian asset nonsense.

        Putin wanted Hillary to win in 2016 – Eventually we found that despited Brennan manfactured lies – that was near the universal assessment of the IC in 2016 – Even Comey eventually owned up to that.

        No the Hunter Biden laptop was not “russian disinformation” – Again Putin wanted President Biden in 2020.

        Might Putin want Trump in 2024 ? Possibly. This war needs to end. Biden is unable to do so. Absent US or NATO boots on the ground, it is highly unlikely that Russia can be defeated in Ukraine. Whether this turns into a stalemate or Russia wins a war of attrition, tit will be a bloody mess. It is highly likely that Both Ukraine and Russia want a way out that saves face. Trump is capable of doing that – Biden is not.

        There are may reasons we have wars in Ukraine and Gaza and possibly Lebanon at the moment.
        All of those have to do with different Biden failures.

    6. Republican don’t govern, they rule. They prefer to rule over others instead of governing.

      1. Yes, because Republicans in the last Congress passed $6T in new laws by bypassing the Senate filibuster.

        Yes, because Republicans in the last Congress attempted to
        Abolish the filibuster
        Add 2 blue States
        Add 4 dem senators
        Pack the supreme court.

        I’ll have what that idiot is smoking.

      3. I reject your reality and substitute my own

        —–George, the Spastic Idiot Non Savant

    7. Dennis – while Barretts decision is a mistake – that is NOT what SCOTUS found.

      You seem to disregard the 9-0 decision written by Sotomayor just a few weeks ago on nearly identical facts – NYS vs. NRA.

      THAT decision unequivocally says that Government CAN NOT censor disfavored content by proxy.

      That is 9-0 and Sotomayor wrote the oppinon.

      So What is different in the Misourri Decision ? Why didn’t the court Slam the Biden administration ?

      Complex nonsense over standing which is frequently what the court does when it it trying not to do the right thing.
      And the FACT that the Biden administration completely stopped the conduct the moment that the AG of Misourri started his investigation.

      The Missourri decision is NOT a victory for Govenrment censorship by proxy, and it does NOT say the Biden administration can do what it did.

      It is likely the outcome in the NYS decision was different because NYS (as it has done in other matters) engaged in unconstitutional conduct, stopped when they were sued, and then RESTARTED as soon as the lawsuit was stopped. Got sued again and stopped when they were sued.

      Sotomayor chose NOT to dismiss the case on the same grounds as was used by Barrett BECAUSE NYS was clearly trying to game the courts.

      Barrett is taking the Biden administration at its word that it has stopped the unconstitutional behavior and is not going to resume.

      I think that trust is greatly misplaced – accross the country democrats and those on the left like you have demonstrated over and over, that you will violate constitutional rights at any chance.

    8. Dennis – you live in an alternate universe.

      While the Missouri decision MISTAKENLY beleives that the Biden administration which STOPPED its misconduct when the Missouri AG filed suit, is a bad decision.

      It DOES not conclude that the conduct of the Biden admin was acceptable – it was not.

      Is there some book that YOU or any other citizen can not buy on Amazon ? Is there a right wing goveronor, senator or law that prevents Amazon or any other publisher from publishing any of the material that you think is being censored ?

      The answer is NO. The laws that you oppose are NOT censorship laws. They are restrictions on GOVERNMENT.
      They bar Government run public schools from forcing on students material that their parents have deemed offensive.

      If you are a parent of a child that disagrees – you remain free to buy the material from Amazon or elsewhere for your child or yourself.

      Are there people who want to use schools to push “christian values” on kids – yes, though that fight has taken place and the “christian values proponents LOST.
      Almost the same thing is occuring in reverse now – and Christian (and other) parents are opposing YOUR efforts to impose YOUR values on students.

      If the bible has no place in a schools curricula neither does material advocating for an LGBTQ lifestyle or agenda.

      Regardless, christians and others are seeking to preclude YOU from using government schools as a means of FORCING your values on kids.

      You – like christian parents are free to take your kids to the private schools of your choice where your childern can be indoctrinated however you wish.

    9. Lets accept your idiotic claims at face value.

      Which does greater public harm – thwarting teachers from instilling LGBT values onto pre-teens or precluding the Biden administration from censoring what ultimately proved to be factually correct information on Covid and substituting information that was FALSE ?

      While SCOTUS screwed up here – they should have done – exactly as Sotomayor and all 9 justices did to NYS a week ago and said – Absolutely not – the State can not censor by proxy.

      At the same time – what is increasingly evident is that the US system is thus far sufficiently resilient to get it right even when SCOTUS does not.

      As Turley pointed out – SCOTUS did NOT get it right with Adam’s alien and Sedition act.

      But the public did, and John Adams – Great man though he was, and 2nd president of the United states was turned out of office after a single term – and his tyranical censorshp was likely a major factor.

      We are seeing the same today.

      You, the left, democrats, the media are SAYING that Trump is the great threat, but MOST people are not stupid.

      Joe Biden is no John Adams. Adams is a great man who made a mistake. Biden is beating James Buchannon out as the worst president in US history. The Biden administration is currently Furiously trying to stop a new war between Hezbolla and Israel. We once again have an elevated threat that Russia may resort to Nukes in Ukraine. The economy is still faltering – Biden’s executive order to fix the problems at the border is a massive failure. Two separate federal courts (and SCOTUS before) have found he has gone far beyond his constitutional powers.
      And on and on. I can not think of a time in which someone entered office needing to do NOTHING to succeed, and still managed to fail so dramatically so fast.

      Did SCOTUS restore free speech protections with NRA vs NYS ? Maybe, maybe not.

      But the FACT is that YOUR efforts to censor have FAILED. And worse for you they have undermined YOUR credibility.

      Throughout society the institutions that the left has taken over have seen their trust obliterated.

      I wish the Supreme court would get things right more often.
      But whether they do or not.

      YOU, the Left, Democrats are losing.

      Nate Silver – pollster to the left just posted today – this election is NOT a tossup – it is Trump’s.
      While Nate still offers democrats SOME false hope, he is atleast honest enough to note that
      absent serious changes – Biden will lose. Nate seems to beleive Biden got a bump from the Manhattan sham trial – yet todays RCP has Trump up by 1.5 in a head to head, and nearly up by 3 in a 3-way. The highest Trump has been in months. So much for a Manhattan bump.

      There will be a debate tonight. Aparently much of the country will watch.

      Anxious democrats are terrified that Biden will step on his d!ck and hopeful that Trump will say something incredibly stupid.
      Regardless it will be a 3:1 contest with Trump facing two pro biden anti-trump moderators, and Biden himself.

      My prediction is that the debate will change nothing. Biden will have little opportunity to fail – because the moderators will protect him.
      It is near certain that tomorow YOU will take something Trump said out of context – or just make something up and claim victory for Biden.

      But I highly doubt that tomorow much will have changed.

      There is little either Biden or Trump have to say that will change anything.

      Biden is president – and whether he is competent or not actually does not matter much.
      Trump is running against whoever is calling the shots in the Biden administration, and they have blown it – whether that is Demonto Joe or someone else.

      Conversely Trump was president and we know exactly what to expect. We do NOT need you or the left or Biden telling us what to think.
      We are all capable of comparing the Trump administration to the Biden administration.

  6. Are you saying that Germany should never have been liberated because YOU never go to Germany on business or vacation?

  7. The Trump Biden debate was pre-recorded and it was leaked just recently

    2. Professor Turley

      It has come to our attention that someone is posting fake videos of the Presidential debate before it even happens, in violation of your terms of Service. Please see to it that it is removed. NOTHING, I REPEAT, NOTHING will happen to you if you don’t remove it. Just do it, and there won’t be any problems.

    1. @oldmanfromkansas – Thanks for the clip, have to bring Tucker back to mainstream.

      1. DRUG TEST

        Why should I care if a young couple starting out in 2018 could afford to buy a home, but can’t today?

    2. Oldman, that was a tremendous video. Tucker even uses my favorite word, Stupid. It is a word that describes what people are. Take New George; he is absolutely Stupid. When anyone uses a different word that tempers the meaning of Stupid, and if they are dealing with George, they encourage him to continue to act in the same fashion because he thinks he is brilliant. Don’t feed the wild animals, and don’t feed Stupid people, including Stupid George.

  9. Great column, and why, as a non-affiliated voter I will never vote for a dem, for any office, ever again. Anything that resembled a saner version of the DNC is gone for good, there is no walking it back.

    Enjoying the book, also.

  10. Uncle Joe will try and get Trump angry so he becomes unhinged. If a fight does happen I hope CNN will keep the video rolling.

    Trump smacks promoter Vince McMahon. It’s a real smack. You can hear it.

    1. Did you see the way that blonde is looking at him when he walks in?

      You just know she wants him to grab that pussy.

  11. Did the United States benefit by liberating Germany?
    Could the United States benefit in similar ways by liberating Ukraine?

    1. ^^ Stupid brain dead comment from troll paid by the military-industrial complex looking to get rich of the carnage of an entire generation of Ukrainian and Russian men. They really should increase the pay level so as to get less stupid commenters. ^^

      1. You, too, benefit from the freedom that others have fought for over the centuries.

        1. Yeah, I really benefit from hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian men dying in a pointless war on the other side of the world, and I’ll especially benefit when it goes nuclear and I and my whole family dies in a thermonuclear blast. Idiot!

            1. Of course it’s not all about me. Many deserving wealthy arms dealers have a stake in the hundreds of billions of taxpayer dollars that are up for grabs (and unaudited), so it’s about them too. And China benefits when America goes bankrupt, so we have to think about the interests of the 1.4 billion Chinese too. And the afterlife is eagerly awaiting the souls of another million Ukrainian and Russian troops and civilians, so we have to think about the benefit to the afterlife of assuring that they die as soon as possible. So it’s about them too. And when this becomes World War III, all the nuclear missiles around the world will finally be put to good use, and that will make them very happy. So we have to think about the benefit to those nuclear missiles too.

      2. David Stockman on The Ukrainian Border War Folly
        https://internationalman.com/articles/david-stockman-on-the-ukrainian-border-war-folly/
        “…there never was a country even remotely resembling modern Ukraine until the Soviet communists decreed its existence. Before that, the pieces and parts of the country’s history go back to the 1650s when one of the more powerful and brutal rulers of the Cossack Hetmanate that occupied a small part of today’s central Ukraine abandoned his tribe’s historic fealty to the Polish kings and switched his loyalty to the Russians. After that, the “borderlands”( i.e.”Ukraine” in Russian) were all about vassalage in the Russian Empire and the Soviet one which followed.”

  12. Dear Mr. Turley, Really appreciate GEB and the others who offer their views. I was wondering if anyone out there would be willing to comment on the revelation of the “Dirty 51” who signed a false statement on Hunter Biden’s laptop calling it “Russian Disinformation”? To me this was more than a coordinated effort to influence the 2020 election. RICO laws would apply here I assume. There are alot of folks out there much smarter than me and I would appreciate any thought on it. Thank you from Wisconsin.

  13. DRUG TEST

    Turley is clearly just pushing his new book when he calls for drug test.

    Taking drugs as debate prep is just exercising free speech. Its protected by Bruen.

    Biden didnt “freeze” at juneteenth. Thats just how white boys dance

    Biden didnt freeze with Obama. He just wanted everyone to see that he is still Barak’s nlgga, needing to be led around.

  14. No free speech for ‘nazis’, right?

    JT, just waiting for the first s@@tlib to call you one.

    antonio

  16. DRUG TEST

    Jonathan,

    Now for more important news. There will be a debate tonight. Will Don show up? We know Joe will be there, because KJP told him to.

    Will Melania be there?

    Will the right wing cabal from the SC be there? Is ACB pretending she’s not a political hack, suddenly?

    I must go now, my nephew is calling me. I’m playing doctor today.

  17. In further news CNN has decided that they will have the power to cut off Trump when replying to Biden’s lies and to cut off Biden when he is…rambling like the dementia patient he really is.

    “Ok Mr. Lincoln, we are cutting your mic in order to allow Mr. Douglas to give his opinion”. THIS IS CNN!

    1. HullBobby,
      I wonder if they think this will work to their, CNNs and the DNCs, advantage.
      It will put on clear display (cough! Cough!) their bias, their desperation. Despite that, they and MSM will declare Biden the victor. All those non-thinking leftists will believe it while the rest of us normal people will mutter, “What a crock of . . .”
      I would not be surprised if after the so-called debate, Trump gains a few more points.

      1. Their bias has been on clear display for a long time already.
        No matter what happens, they’ll spin it in Biden’s favor.
        Hoping the drugs last long enough for him to do a victory lap.

    2. hullbobby said: “In further news CNN has decided that they will have the power to cut off Trump when replying to Biden’s lies and to cut off Biden when he is…rambling like the dementia patient he really is. ”
      Presidential debate commission chairman slams CNN over upcoming debate setup
      https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/presidential-debate-commission-chairman-slams-cnn-over-upcoming-debate
      “Fahrenkopf, who has overseen 33 presidential and vice presidential debates, claimed that CNN’s debate sounds more like an interview because of how long the candidates have to respond. He also criticized the decision to block audiences from watching the debate in person, claiming previous presidential debates did not have rowdy crowds.
      “It’s almost like an interview the way they’re doing it, but this is supposed to be a
      debate between the two candidates,” Fahrenkopf said. “They’re saying there
      shouldn’t be an audience because people clap and cheer and scream, but that’s not
      true. That happens at primary debates, not presidential debates. That’s a phony thing
      the Biden people came up with.””

      This guy Fahrenkopf sounds like he might well weigh in on CNN’s conduct after the debate has concluded. If so, I look forward to reading his analysis.

  18. DRUG TEST

    TRUMP CAUSED COVID AND INFLATION AND RAPED THE DUKE LACROSSE TEAM

  19. Is this so called “debate” really necessary? We already know what both individuals offer. There are no gotcha moments, the past four years have devastated not only free speech but damaged all our rights under the US Constitution, our safety and standing internationally. There is only one choice.

    2. Yes, it IS necessary. Joe has dodged any serious questioning for years. This is Trump’s opportunity to hold Biden’s feet to the fire. Biden brings up the “16 economists”, Trump has the perfect chance to say “Well, how about those 51 intelligence officials”. Joe the laptop has been established as genuine by your own DOJ. Didn’t you know it was when you lied about it in our last debate? Are you saying you didn’t ask Hunter about it? That he lied to you? Why should we take this economy letter any more seriously?

      1. @garyesq2k2 – is the “debate” necessary, well you just made my point!
        By the by “Today An illegal migrant has been arrested for allegedly raping a 15-year-old girl in his car in upstate New York in May”

      2. One problem. Trump doesn’t get to as the questions.

        Is there one swinging dick here who thinks Bidens team doesn’t already have the questions.

        Thats not possible in any universe

        1. Trump doesn’t get to ask Qs but he does get the chance to respond to what Joe says. Joe got that economist letter to use it in the debate. When he does Trump gets the opportunity to raise the Qs I mentioned. Will Joe answer? No, but it won’t be necessary. The point will be made, that you can’t trust anything the Biden camp pulls out of its butt right before a debate.

          1. Trump just needs to name the number of those economists that contributed to Biden.

            I believe it was all 16.

    1. Liar

      He specifically said his success
      Would be his revenge.

      Nevertheless, a recent poll showed that 63% of the public thinks that Trump should retaliate.

        2. The problem is that you didn’t include the whole interview.

          Here’s the quote:

          “Number one, they’re wrong,” Trump replied. “It has to stop, because otherwise, we’re not going to have a country. Look, when this election is over, based on what they’ve done, I would have every right to go after them, and it’s easy, because it’s Joe Biden and you see all the criminality, all of the money that’s going into the family and him, all of this money from China, from Russia, from Ukraine.”

          1. What does the whole quote add?

            This still means he would go after his political opponents (i.e., Joe Biden) after he wins the election, no?

            If anything, the context of Trump’s quote makes the comparison to the Alien and Sedition Acts more apt. Here, Trump emphasizes Joe’s connections to foreign governments. The Alien and Sedition Acts were principally focused on protecting the US from foreign influence.

            1. Are you really as illierate and imbecilic an ass-wipe as your comments make you appear to be?

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