“We are Monitoring”: EU Censor Threatens Musk Ahead of the Trump Interview

In my new book on free speech and various columns, I write about the European Digital Services Act (DSA) as one of the greatest assaults on free speech in history. One of the most notorious anti-free speech figures in the world is European Commissioner for Internal Markets and Services Thierry Breton. Where some censors express reluctance in their work, Breton is chillingly enthusiastic in threatening those with opposing views with charges and financial ruin. The latest is Elon Musk for his decision to interview former President Donald Trump.

After Musk bought Twitter and pledged to dismantle much of the company’s massive censorship system, Breton went after the company at the urging of Hillary Clinton.

For those who criticized the European Union as a dangerous step toward a transnational governance system, Breton is the personification of their worst fears. He has wielded the sweeping powers and vague standards of the DSA to force companies to engage in comprehensive censorship regardless of national laws or their own values.

As I wrote in the book:

“Under the DSA, users are ’empowered to report illegal content online and online platforms will have to act quickly.’ This includes speech that is viewed not only as ‘disinformation’ but also ‘incitement.’ European Commission Executive Vice President Margrethe Vestager has been one of the most prominent voices seeking international censorship. At the passage of the DSA, Vestager was ecstatic in declaring that it is ‘not a slogan anymore, that what is illegal offline should also be seen and dealt with as illegal online. Now it is a real thing. Democracy’s back.’”

This week, Breton was irate that Musk was giving Trump a forum on X, formerly Twitter. He was not the only one. The interview was interrupted by what Musk said was a distributed denial-of-service (DDS) attack by people trying to prevent the interview.

Notably, a DDS attack interrupted a prior interview with Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis. Like Breton, many were working tirelessly to prevent others from hearing opposing views.

Breton threatened Musk that the EU was watching and that the Trump interview could bring crippling sanctions under the DSA: “As there is a risk of amplification of potentially harmful content in [the EU] in connection with events with major audience around the world, I sent this letter to @elonmusk.”

As in the past, Breton refused to recognize that he was interfering with elections in another country. Sitting in his EU office, he demanded that whatever is discussed in the interiew should satisfy his own content standards: “As the relevant content is accessible to EU users and being amplified also in our jurisdiction, we cannot exclude potential spillovers in the EU.”

Breton expressly warned that the censors were watching. Breton wrote of the Musk-Trump interview: “Therefore, we are monitoring the potential risks in the EU associated with the dissemination of content that may incite violence, hate and racism in conjunction with major political – or societal – events around the world, including debates and interviews in the context of elections.”

Breton added his perfunctory mantra that free expression is fine, but only if he does not consider it “harmful.”

“This notably means, on one hand, that freedom of expression and of information, including media freedom and pluralism, are effectively protected and, on the other hand, that all proportionate and effective mitigation measures are put in place regarding the amplification of harmful content in connection with relevant events, including live streaming, which, if unaddressed, might increase the risk profile of X and generate detrimental effects on civic discourse and public security.

He then threatened to impose ruinous financial penalties until Musk censored others, including potentially one of two leading presidential candidates in the United States.

Musk responded with a defiant message that began with “Bonjour!” He added a vulgar Tropic Thunder reference.

Breton is one of the key figures in an anti-free speech movement that has swept over Europe. It is now using the DSA, as many of us predicted, to force other countries to censor their citizens and even their leaders. It is free speech regulated to the lowest common denominator, the level set by the EU and Breton.

There is a crushing irony. The left has made “foreign interference” with elections a mantra of claiming to be defending democracy. Yet, it applauds EU censors threatening companies that carry an interview with a targeted American politician. It also supports importing such censorship and blacklisting systems to the United States. When you agree with the censorship, it is not viewed as interference, but an intervention.

If citizens want to see where the anti-free speech movement will take us in the United States, they need only to look at Europe where free speech is in a virtual free fall. As I wrote in The Indispensable Right: Free Speech in an Age of Rage”:

“The impact of these laws was evident in a poll of German citizens. Only 18 percent of Germans feel free to express their opinions in public. Fifty-nine percent of Germans did not even feel free expressing themselves in private among friends. And just 17 percent felt free to express themselves on the internet. The only true success of censorship has been the forced or compelled silence of those with opposing views. That pretense of social harmony is treated as success even though few minds are changed as fewer voices are heard in society.”

Musk may be the only individual with sufficient money and commitment to stand up to the EU and the global censors. That is precisely why Musk is being targeted by so many in the media, academia, and government. It is also why many of us support X and its struggle against the EU and Breton.

Jonathan Turley is the Shapiro Professor of Public Interest Law at George Washington University. He is the author of “The Indispensable Right: Free Speech in an Age of Rage” (Simon and Schuster).

257 thoughts on ““We are Monitoring”: EU Censor Threatens Musk Ahead of the Trump Interview”

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  2. What if one couples that with what LBJ said?

    Oops!

    You’ll have all those folks voting democratic for the next two hundred years!!!!

  3. *SENATOR KEELEY

    The EU and the Digital Service Act is on thing. Then the USA and the telecommunications act and decency section 230? All interesting and the ideas vary.

    The argument seemed to center on were the large platforms publishers or distributors. The platforms include Google and Bing, Amazon, X, you tube and others.

    These aren’t publishers anymore than AT&T published telephone calls occurring in real-time. Of course there can be surveillance with the right documents in hand for specific reason. Is this the rub in the phone call interview? Distributed by X?

    Breton and others have reason other than Trump is deplorable or was it just a warning we can fine X and Mr. Musk if we disapprove?

    Yes, very serious.

      1. Reposted with permission

        Jonathan:

        Dennis McIncrier, otherwise know as Crybaby Dennis the Demented Draft Dodger, Shows up to cry about Donald Trump for the 3rd time today.

        Lets have a little fun, starting with this one:

        “Unlike John who often goes out on limb with predictions that don’t pan out, I will only make one prediction.”

        Notice Dennis doesnt name any. So we’ll name some of his.

        Trump will be in a Georgia prison before the election

        The House doesnt have the votes for an impeachment inquiry

        Biden is going to win the 2024 election

        SCOTUS will uphold the Colorado Supreme Court on 14A

        These are just a few of Nostradamus McIncrier’s recent prognostications.

        Now lets look at the one of crybaby’s favorite “spastimes”. The phrase “convicted felon”. A meaningless term used by spastic idiots. Why? Because they are proud to be spastic? Hard to predict.

        What we can do is ask Dennis, who has all the answers.

        Dennis…what is Trump’s date of conviction?

        Words matter to voters, spastic coward.

  4. Jonathan: Donald Trump’s media stock (“DJT”) took another hit of 5% on Monday after he gave that disastrous and disjointed interview with Elon Musk. Why did that happen? What is the only asset of DJT? It’s Donald Trump. Without him there would be no media company in his name. So by going on a competitor, like X, DJT is diminishing the value of his own brand. That was not lost on institutional investors.

    Now we know why DJT decided to get back on X. He is losing ground to Harris. The polls show it. Truth Social has about 4 million active followers. Some major influencers have more than that alone. X has over 200 million followers. DJT needs a wider audience and Musk provides that. But will that help DJT? Probably not because all DJT talked about with Musk were his old and tired complaints–except for telling Musk he might move to Venezuela if he loses the election.

    DJT still has some loyal supporters–some right on this blog. Despite all the bad news, John Say likes to brag that “right now most of us [who might they be John?] expect there will be fraud by the democrats in 2024. And Trump will win anyway” (8/12@12:30am). John is ever the optimist and spreader of conspiracy theories. Unlike John who often goes out on limb with predictions that don’t pan out, I will only make one prediction.

    If DJT loses in November his legal troubles will multiply. Judge Chutkan is back in charge of the DC election interference case so it will slowly proceed to a trial sometime in 2025. Jack Smith has appealed Judge Cannon’s decision dismissing her Mar-a-Lag docs case. The 11th Circuit will likely slap down Cannon again–even taking her off the case–so I new judge could get the case up and running very quickly.

    And the above doesn’t include DJT’s 34-count conviction in the Manhattan election interference case. Justice Merchan has set sentencing for September 18. Will Merchan give DJT any jail time? Hard to predict. Whatever happens to DJT he is a dead man walking. He is a “convicted felon”–not something you want on your resume if you are running for the highest office in the land! No doubt something Kamala Harris will remind DJT of when or if the debate!

    1. The beginning of restoring justice in this country will be:
      LOCKING UP HUNTER BIDEN for at least 25 years
      LOCKING UP JAMES BIDEN for the MAX allowable
      and then the essential piece to begin the restoration of JUSTICE in this country:
      LOCKING UP the total treasonous scumbag criminal trairor: JOE BIDEN for at least the rest of his life
      And be sure to lock his disgusting scumbag wife with him.

      That will begin the CLEANING of America.

      1. LOCKING UP the total treasonous scumbag criminal TRAITOR: JOE BIDEN for at least the rest of his life

    2. Dennis – You are a brainwashed fool. YOU DON’T DESERVE to VOTE because you are too stupid.

      1. Anyone still talking about “34 Felonies” as if it is anything other than totally corrupt political lawfare should SHUT THEIR IDIOT MOUTH because YOU ARE TOO STUPID TO VOTE. Which means: You are a Democrat. The Democrat Party counts on the utter, complete, totally brainwashed stupidity of their base voters. Dennis is EXHIBIT A: Too Stupid to Vote.

    3. Jonathan:

      Dennis McIncrier, otherwise know as Crybaby Dennis the Demented Draft Dodger, Shows up to cry about Donald Trump for the 3rd time today.

      Lets have a little fun, starting with this one:

      “Unlike John who often goes out on limb with predictions that don’t pan out, I will only make one prediction.”

      Notice Dennis doesnt name any. So we’ll name some of his.

      Trump will be in a Georgia prison before the election

      The House doesnt have the votes for an impeachment inquiry

      Biden is going to win the 2024 election

      SCOTUS will uphold the Colorado Supreme Court on 14A

      These are just a few of Nostradamus McIncrier’s recent prognostications.

      Now lets look at the one of crybaby’s favorite “spastimes”. The phrase “convicted felon”. A meaningless term used by spastic idiots. Why? Because they are proud to be spastic? Hard to predict.

      What we can do is ask Dennis, who has all the answers.

      Dennis…what is Trump’s date of conviction?

      Words matter to voters, spastic coward.

    4. “Donald Trump’s media stock (“DJT”) took another hit of 5% on Monday”

      Arew we all going to have to listen to this type of nonsense every time there is a tiny drop in DJT stock
      Thje stock is up almost 100% from its opening price – YOU predicted it would rapidly become worthless.
      Instead Trump has doubled his net worth.

      The value of the stock appears to have settled at somewwhere between 25-30 share. It is fluctuating there.

    5. ” Why did that happen?”
      You say you do not make predictions -0 yet here you are – whenever you ask Why – you are speculating
      That is fine – it is your right.

      At the same time you have had a poor track record.
      You are very bad at understanding why other people do anything.

      Why stock markets do as they do.

      ” What is the only asset of DJT?”
      Cash,.
      Real estate,
      and Social media stock.

      ” It’s Donald Trump.”
      His brand is also an asset.

      “Without him there would be no media company in his name.”
      False, but it is prtobable that the value might decline a bit without his name.

      “So by going on a competitor, like X, DJT is diminishing the value of his own brand. That was not lost on institutional investors.”
      Might be true – so what ?”

      Trump made a choice to sit for the interview on X – you may be right that hurt the value of DJT stock – still a choice he is free to make.

      ” He is losing ground to Harris.”

      You have been making polling claims for a long long time.
      Thus far you have been WRONG

      Biden’s withdraw cleared the collapse on the side of democrats that Had Trump headed towards an electoral college and popular vote blow out.

      The candidate YOU told everyone was competent proved to be a doddering fool.
      YOY Lied and were being punished by the electorate for lying.

      When Biden withdrew – the polls reverted to approximately where they were Before the Disasterous Biden interview.

      Harris has gained SOME ground on Trump – from Biden’s pre-debate polls – but NOT very much.
      Her so called honeymoon is getting a very small bump. That almost vertainly will fade – after the DNC convention – which MIGHT give her a little bit more of a Bump if democrats can avoid botching it.

      But it is likely all downhill from there.

      Fopr the moment atleast Harris also benefits fram the fact that Democrats are no longer despondent.

      While a FEW loonies such as yourself are overjoyed – though even you are mostly eoverjhoyed that there is a chance Trump might loose.

      You are clueless as to whether Harris would actually be a good president – she would not.

      “Truth Social has about 4 million active followers. …”
      So ?

      Your engaged in massive inside baseball analysis that you are completely clueless about.

      You are also actually making a very stupid argument that essentially boils down to

      I hope and predict Trump will lose – because he will not get enough media coverage.

      In making that claim you are tacitly admitting that Harris would lose in an open free and fair contest of ideas.

      So lets have aexactly that. Lets have Truth, and X and FB and Wapo and NYT actually cover all the condidates, thir platofroms and positions.

      Lets have them do that openly and freely without bias or censorship – and then let the people choose.

      You seem to be deathly afroad that Trump will be able to get his message out.

      ” John Say likes to brag that “right now most of us [who might they be John?] expect there will be fraud by the democrats in 2024.”
      You constantly spin things.
      You pretend to cite polls for things they do not say – Harris is up in National polls by tiny fractions of the margin of error.
      Trump is ahead in the electoral college.
      At this moment it is a close race. It is highly unlikely to remain that way.
      Hillary was ahead by 7pts in Augutst 2016. Biden was ahead by almost 8pts in august 2020.

      As to election fraud – AGAIN this is from polls – not my views – or YOUR made up ones. Nearly 90% of Republicans,. something like 65% of independendents and even just under 50% of democrats beleive there will be large scale fraud in the 2024 election.

      Maybe democrats think it will be by republicans – though the public coverage of election fraud is focused entirely on things that will benefit Harris.

      Regaredless EVERYONE wants a clean free and fair election – yet those like YOU refuse.

      “John is ever the optimist”
      Than you – another 4 years of leftwing nut rule would be really bad for the country and the world.

      “spreader of conspiracy theories.”
      What FALSE conspiracy threories have I spread ?

      “Unlike John who often goes out on limb with predictions that don’t pan out”
      Most of my predictions have been pretty good – I have about an 80+% track record.

      “I will only make one prediction.” Dennis – you make predictions all the time – you made predictions above.
      I am hard pressed to think of a single prediction you have ever been right about You speculate constantly – you engage in mind reading. you make Claims – like that Harris is up by 5 or 10 pts that are completely bogus.

      There is also a fair amount of evidence that the polls are off. But there is zero doubt that replacing Biden with Harris cleared the Biden failed the debate Bump that Trump got that turned this into a route.

      At the moment I do not care much about the polls – short of using them to point out that you are lying, Because the polls are going to be off until a week or two after the DNC convention, and possibly until a week or two after the first debate. In the interim – barring Harris or Walz getting caught in something really bad – like finding out that it was Harris that Called TSA and told them to put Gabbard on the terrorist watch list, we will not know where Harris really is for sometime.

      At the same time Harrisis trajectory after the DNC convention will be DOWN.

      You have already done everything you can do to Trump – Nothing you can do or he can say will lose votes.

      Conversely while Harris will get a bump from the convention – aside from that – this is her high water mark.

      It really does njot matter what Harris releases as policies – they will lose votes.
      In addition to going after Harris and Walz’s policies – they will also be subject to scrutiny for their past actions and their character.

      There is nothing that can be known about Harris or Walz that will convince an on the fence voter to flip to Harris.
      There are lots of things that can and will come up to flip some away from Harris/Walz.

      It is near Certain Trump will win the popular vote. What matters right now is that he wins it by enough that the democratic fraud machine can not flip any swing states through fraud.

      “If DJT loses in November his legal troubles will multiply. Judge Chutkan is back in charge of the DC election interference case so it will slowly proceed to a trial sometime in 2025. Jack Smith has appealed Judge Cannon’s decision dismissing her Mar-a-Lag docs case. The 11th Circuit will likely slap down Cannon again–even taking her off the case–so I new judge could get the case up and running very quickly.”

      First – it is near certain ALL the cases against Trump will be DROPPED post election .
      The Merchan case is DONE – Merchan is either tossing it or it will be tossed on the first apeal to the federal courts which will happen immediately. Whil;e there are dozens of fatal legal errors by Merchan that will result in the case being reversed eventually – his overruling objections to witnesses that SCOTUS has now said could not testify means the first federal court to hear this will pitch it.

      As to Cannon – I think it is about 50:50 that the 11th ct of appeals reverses – the decision is SOLIDLY grounded constitutionally MANY ways.
      If the 11th ct of appeals reverses – it will go to the supreme court – and that is really really dangerous for Smith – a Supreme court decision upholding Cannon Also takes out the DC case. I would note all of this will occur AFTER the election and the “Get Trump at all costs” fervor of the left – will be GONE – whether it is the 11 ct of appeals or SCOTUS the courts will be following the law and constitution – not politics.

      You are correct that Chutkin is chomping at the bit. But Jack Smith is not. Between the 1512C decision and the immunity decision and the Cannon decision Smith is in deep schiff – he is struggling to find a case left – because there never was one. Scotus has already said his communications with election officials and congressmen, and the administration, regarding the election are “Official acts”
      It will be very nearly impossible to charge a crime from them or use them as evidence., Two charges have already been wiped and the remaining two are frankly unconstitutionally vague. And it is certian that Trump will chalenge Smith’s appointment before Chutkan.

      You say the case is back in here hands – that would be for about 5 seconds.

      First Smith must revise his charges to address the Immunity and 1512C decision – additionally he has the problem that he presented inadmissible evidence to the grand jury – so the indictment should be tossed and he should have to start over. Chutkan is not going to allow that to happen. But it will still go to the DC appeals and then SCOTUS – If Smith is not removed first – this could easily take until 2026 or later, and frankly die long before.

      Further unless Chutkan follows Canon and tosses everything because Smith is illegitmate – and unless the DC ct of appeals tosses smiths appointment – you will have a circuit split and SCOTUS will take the case for certain.

      SCOTUS has noever had an is the SC regs legitimate case. But they have had DOZENS of appointments clause cases – and those have been 100% in favor of following the appointments clause litterally.

      The BEST that you can hope for before SCOTUS is the SC regs are invalid – Congress did not pass them. There is no “office of Special Counsel”, but the AG can appoint an existing US Attorney as a special prosecutor = i.e. Weis and Durham are legitimate and Mueller and Smith are not

      Further you should expect this to be a 9-0 decision. This is not even a close call.

      “And the above doesn’t include DJT’s 34-count conviction in the Manhattan election interference case.”
      That case is done.

      “Justice Merchan has set sentencing for September 18. ”
      Incorrect – Merchan has a long list of motions he must address. If he decides any ONE of those in favor of Trump this is done.
      If he decides ALL opf them opposed to Trump – the case goes to the federal courts immediately.

      Next Trump[ is NOT technically a convicted fellon yet – if he was – this case would already be before the federal courts.
      Trump does not have the right to appeal until there is an actual conviction and conviction does not actually occur until Merchan sentences Trump.

      There is some indication that Merchan is about to recuse himself – that is possible. What is highly likely is that he is delaying to the last minute. The moment he decides the outstanding motions and sentences – the case goes straight to federal courts for appeal (as well as some NYS appeals on different errors). The violation of immunity ios so clear that the federal courts could dismiss the entire case in a month. It is not likely they will work that fast – But merchan is delaying to preserve the appeearance that Trump is a convicted fellon through the eleciton.

      Regardless the Merchan case is over, it is just a question of when it gets tossed.

      “Will Merchan give DJT any jail time? Hard to predict. Whatever happens to DJT he is a dead man walking.”

      Only loony lefties like you beleive this – Sorry Dennis -t he case is over. The only question is Whether Merchan tries to preserve the perception of a conviction through the election.

      “He is a “convicted felon”–not something you want on your resume if you are running for the highest office in the land! ”
      Technically false, atg the same time – not especially relevant.

      “No doubt something Kamala Harris will remind DJT of when or if the debate!”
      Maybe they will – I certainly hope so.

      If Harris is smart she will stay as far away from this as possible.
      First voters have already weighed in – I KNOW that looney lefties like you think you can force a bogus conviction down the publics throats
      But the fact is that YOUIR misconduct in purely political prosecutions and corrupt trials has won Trump several additional points in the polls.

      Worse still – Harris personally has her fingers all over this – Trump is just itching to Run adds about Harris’s long time use of political powers to punish her enemies. Harris met with the Merchan attorneys, with the Willis staff and with Smith. There is NO VP role at all in doing so.
      Further Tulsi Gabbard a long time critic of Harris, who drove Harris out of the 2020 primary was put on the dometic terrorist watchlist immediately after a speech criticsing Harris.

      The adds write themselves.

      Between now and the election Harris can not avoid having her record brought to peoples attention, having her character brough to peoples attention – none of this will be good for her.

  5. JT says…
    “ The interview was interrupted by what Musk said was a distributed denial-of-service (DDS) attack by people trying to prevent the interview.”

    There are many technically capable people that say this is not true. Is JT spreading fake news?

    1. “There are many technically capable people that say this is not true.”

      And zero with one iota of substance to back their spurious claims.

      Fake News would be if JT made that shit up out of thin air. Like your friends did. JT repeated what the principle asserted.

      I know the minute details of how a nuclear reactor is designed and functions.

      I dont know how many MW-hrs Irans reactor logged yesterday.

      Spastic idiots like this anon will believe anything if its what they want to hear. They dont even need fake news. Just some random fan boys to claim they know something.

    2. “I LOVeD Elon Musk and wanted to have his babies until I didnt”

      —-modern libturd fan boi

  6. American elections are not “fixed.”
    _______________________________________

    “I’ll have them [mexicans] voting democratic for the next two hundred years.”

    – Joe “LBJ” Biden

      1. What if one couples that with what LBJ said?

        Oops!

        You’ll have all those folks voting democratic for the next two hundred years!!!!

    1. Nice

      So Mueller went to the Clinton hired Alpha Bank hoaxers for attribution of the DNC email hack.

      And Mueller only indicted people who would never be brought to trial so he would never have to reveal the truth.

      No one could even make up shit this fantastic.

      We are fvcked.

    2. Funny. Quote Matt Taibbi when he trashes Clinton. Ignore Taibbi when he trashes Trump.

  7. The Wall Street Journal really loves the Trump…

    “Trump Is Looking Like a Loser Again,” editor-at-large Gerard Baker wrote in a column on Monday. “The Trump of the past few weeks has looked and sounded more or less exactly like the Trump of nine years ago. This is the problem. It is this Mr. Trump who lost the presidency in 2020. It is this Mr. Trump who lost the House in 2018 and the Senate in the Georgia runoff election in January 2021.”

    Gotta love those losers don’t ya

    1. “The Trump of the past few weeks has looked and sounded more or less exactly like the Trump of nine years ago. This is the problem.”

      I gather that critical writing and reading skills have been lost in this country.

      The “Trump of *nine years* ago” won the presidency. Hard to see how one can describe that as a “problem.”

  8. Move over Thierry Breton, Hillary’s team may have done far worse. Matt Taibbi, a true journalist, informs:

    FOIA Files: Did Special Counsel Robert Mueller Rely on Clinton Campaign Operatives to Point to Russia?
    FOIA documents show the Mueller probe may have been informed by a Pentagon agency.

    There are strong indications that the same cyber researchers who were working with the Clinton campaign went on to work with the Special Counsel Robert Mueller team on the DNC hack investigation and the indictment of Russians……

    Somehow, these same cyber researchers that had already provided their August 7, 2016 attribution analysis on the DNC hack, in addition to anonymously submitting the Alfa Bank claims through Sussmann, along with later submitting nonsensical Yota Phone allegations, went on to provide materials to Special Counsel Mueller on the DNC hack without raising any eyebrows.

    The Mueller team went on to wipe dozens of phones, leaving now obvious questions of whether it was to conceal their contacts with the Clinton-connected cyber researchers.

    https://www.racket.news/p/foia-files-did-special-counsel-robert

  9. O T – The Party of Democracy just succeeded in getting RFK Jr. knocked off the ballot in New York.
    RFK Jr. wrote on X: “The Democrats are showing contempt for democracy. They aren’t confident they can win at the ballot box, so they are trying to stop voters from having a choice.”
    As Joe Birdbrain would say: “No kidding.” As Camels Harris would say: “This is the politics of joy.”

    1. Blame the Spaniards. Had they not conquered the Aztecs on this day in the year 1521, they likely would have sacrificed all of us to feed their god who made the sun rise.

      Pagans gonna pagan

      Culture Critic
      @Culture_Crit
      Today in 1521, Spanish forces captured Tenochtitlan (Mexico City), thus ending the Aztec Empire……The Aztecs believed the sun god Huitzilopochtli was fighting a constant war against darkness. In order for the sun to rise each day (defeating the moon and the stars), Huitzilopochtli must be fed by brutal human sacrifice. In horrific rituals, a still-throbbing heart would be ripped from a prisoner of war, offered to the gods, then rolled down the steps of the Templo Mayor. What was left of the victim was eaten by priests. Sometimes it was done on immense scale. At the consecration of the Templo Mayor in 1487, Aztecs sacrificed over 80,000 prisoners — in four days.

      https://x.com/Culture_Crit/status/1823378995590709300

  10. I thought the whole reason our founding fathers fought the revolutionary war was so that we wouldn’t have to give a rat’s assets about what the Europeans think about us, ever again. No?

  11. I have an idea whose time has come.

    Let’s accurately and stringently implement the pristine and unsullied Constitution and Bill of Rights of the American Founders and Framers (e.g. its “manifest tenor,” if you will—with full retroactive correction as Dobbs reversed Roe v. Wade). 

    Those guys had some very good ideas on self-governance—their rationally and severely restricted-vote republic of coherent democracy. 

    Oh, my!  How appropriate. 

    Someone send the memo to the Supreme Court and the hierarchy of the Obama Coup D’etat in America, aka the Communist (liberal, progressive, socialist, democrat, RINO, AINO) Party of America. 

    The Communist Manifesto is not the Constitution.

    The principles of communism are unconstitutional. 

    Communism is illegal. 

  12. Jonathan: There are other people who are “monitoring” DJR. It’s musical artists. He has been stealing songs from major artists for years with paying for their songs.

    DJT used Isaac Hayes song “Hold On I’m Coming” at rallies in 2022 and this year. The Hayes family has asked DJT not to play the song but DJT ignored them. Now the family has had enough. They have filed a massive copyright infringement lawsuit against DJT saying “We demand cessation of use, removal of all related videos, a public disclaimer, and payment of $3 million in licensing fees by August 16, 2024”. Will DJT comply? Unlikely. He will fight the lawsuit using money from Mr. & Mrs. Magadonian to pay his legal expenses. It’s robbing Peter to pay Paul!

    But it’s not just Isaac Hayes. On Sunday, Celine Dion demanded DJT stop using her song “My Heart Will Go On”. And Hayes and Dion are not the only ones to yank their songs. There is a long list of other major artists that have done the same. And their is someone else who will be holding DJT accountable. On Sept. 18 Justice Merchan will be sentencing DJT–and he may face being yanked off the prison!

    So DJT thinks nothing of stealing a song and not paying for its use. Stealing from people is the story of DJT’s life!

    1. Dennis the spastic idiot doesn’t understand licensing rights, and ignorantly whined about that which he has no clue.

      Why can’t musicians get political candidates to stop using their music at campaign events? Well, it’s complicated, but essentially, the reality is that in almost all cases, artists actually don’t have the legal right to tell a campaign to stop playing their songs at events. The reason for that is that most major artists sign licensing deals with performance rights organizations like ASCAP and BMI.

      Any public event, if they want to play music, needs to pay for a license, but once organizers have paid for that license, they can pretty much play any songs they want. If that kind of agreement weren’t in place, Neil Young and ABBA would have to strike a deal with every restaurant, bowling alley, and wedding event that wants to use their music. Obviously that’s way too complicated, so that’s why artists sign rights agreements that cover a wide range of venues and events — including rallies, whether we’re talking politicians or monster trucks.

      So just telling a candidate to cut it out basically isn’t good enough. The next thing some artists have tried is revising their licensing agreements to make certain songs unavailable specifically for political events. That’s what Neil Young has done with his song “Rockin’ in the Free World,” which has been a favorite of the President’s. But there’s some legal ambiguity there, too, because music rights licensing is regulated under federal law due to antitrust concerns, so even if Neil Young wants to make exemptions to his license, it may not really be up to him.

      I wonder if we can get Shane Gillis to do Trump talking about “Crybaby Dennis”

      https://www.youtube.com/shorts/e6jrzXIZv3Y

    2. Maybe DJT is in the wrong, but your take on copyright law doesn’t prove it -since it’s wrong. Celine Dion has no control over who plays her songs. She can request an accounting from BMI or ASCAP or whoever handles her royalty payments and insist that they be made (and then file civil suit to enforce that). Period. Her demand the the Trump campaign stop using her songs has zero legal weight.

    3. “So DJT thinks nothing of stealing a song and not paying for its use. “

      Its a good thing Trump is a public figure, since Dennis McIncrier thinks nothing about spewing slanderous, disgusting prevarications.

    4. You gotta point Dennis. I’ve sung Happy Birthday for years and never paid anyone. I saw him pick up a 4ft putt for a gimmie once. No way. So there’s that.

    5. Dennis, copyright law is complex.

      Who can use what music depends on contracts between the artist and publishers, as well as publishers contracts with others.

      95% or more of the time music is published through standard contracts and though rules setup by various organized artists unions.

      And the rules are simple – if you wish to use a song, you must pay to do so.
      That is all. In GENERAL few artists have the right to decide who can use their songs.

      This is NOT 100% true – but it is atleast 95% true.

      ” There are other people who are “monitoring” DJR. It’s musical artists.”
      Have fun.

      “He has been stealing songs from major artists for years with paying for their songs.”
      There is no “stealing” For MOST uses – someone must pay to use the song. But the fees for the types of use politicians make are minimal.

      All of this is for nearly all cases established by the artists unions – that have rules that are “pay for play”
      Not only those we want can play.

      “DJT used Isaac Hayes song “Hold On I’m Coming” at rallies in 2022 and this year. The Hayes family has asked DJT not to play the song but DJT ignored them. Now the family has had enough. They have filed a massive copyright infringement lawsuit against DJT saying “We demand cessation of use, removal of all related videos, a public disclaimer, and payment of $3 million in licensing fees by August 16, 2024”. Will DJT comply? Unlikely.”
      Correct – he is unlikely to comply with a frivolous lawsuit. Issac Hayes is dead – and even if he was not – it is near certauin that NO ONE has the right to chose who can and can not use his music. So long as Trump has complied with the requirements to pay the specific royalities for the specific uses – and Trump’s use would have relatively low Royalty fees, then the lawsuit will be thrown out – and the Hayes family could end up paying Trump’s legal fees. I would further note that depending on the length of the portion of the song Trump is using – it may well fall under Fair use – in which case Trump would owe nothing.

      “But it’s not just Isaac Hayes.”
      Generally – once Artists have agreed to standard publishing contracts they lose the right to decide who can play their songs.
      It is highly unusual for an artist to have apublishing contract that allows them to retruct the use of their work.

      This is this way because – a significant portion of the royalties paid for the use of a song – go to the publisher – not the artist.
      And publishers want people to play and to pay.

      “On Sept. 18 Justice Merchan will be sentencing DJT–and he may face being yanked off the prison!”

      I doubt there will be sentencing on the 18th. Though it is possible. The moment Merchan makes a final decision – either on the motions pending – which he must rule on before sentencing – or sentencing itself there will be multiple appeals filed. The most likely to get a quick reversal is the immunity decision – that will go straight to federal courts. and there could be reversal in weeks.

      Any custodial sentence will result in an immediate habeus appeal. Any attempt to maintain the gag order will result in immediate appeals.

      Merchan is trying hard to assure that his inevitable reversal does not occur until AFTER the election. The later he waits the more likely the federal courts can not move fast enough to toss this.

      It has always been election interferance from the start.

      “So DJT thinks nothing of stealing a song and not paying for its use. Stealing from people is the story of DJT’s life!”

      You say he has stolen their songs – these artists agreed to make their songs available and that people could use them in return for royalties.
      The right to decide who can use most songs today belongs with the publishers – not the artists and publishers want money.
      Publishing is a business selling the use of songs for money – it is apolitical.

      And this ignores the fact that copyright law allows for Fair use without royalties – whether Trump’s use is “fair use” will depend on whether he makes money from that use, and how much of a song he uses.

      Regardless, at the very worst Trump might owe some minor royalties – if he has not already paid them.

  13. *SENATOR KEELEY

    This took place by telephone? X uses the NET. It’s a world without borders? I suppose Musk’s physical body was in the UK and Trump in the USA. International media laws?

    How is Douglas Murray getting away with his viewpoint? The EU must approve?

    I don’t read anonymous posts.

    Thank you, Mr. Turley.

    1. “I don’t read anonymous posts.”
      They make me feel icky.
      Signed, Anonymous.

    2. *LORETTA

      DSA—>Digital Services Act. EU.

      The USA isn’t a part of the EU.

  14. As there is a risk of amplification of potentially harmful content in [the EU] in connection with events with major audience around the world, I sent this letter to @elonmusk.

    The risk of amplification is real and there is nothing potential about the harm it will do…to the totalitarian regime running the EU. So from the regime’s perspective, the last thing they want to happen is for Trump to have a platform like X amplifying his message/plan to return power and restore rights to the people. So of course they have to attempt to do what every totalitarian regime throughout history has done.

  15. Just a thought; Breton, the EU, and the UK Commissioner of the Metroplitan Police based in London, have no business in free speech that occurs in the United States. I disrespectfully suggest that you stick it.

  16. “We are Monitoring”: EU Censor Threatens Musk Ahead of the Trump Interview”

    – Professor Turley
    _____________________

    Milquetoasts allowed communism and the “dictatorship of the proletariat” in under “Crazy Abe” Lincoln; fundamental and statutory law and the legislative process just wouldn’t do. 

    The condition of the once-free United States has “Progressively” atrophied. 

    Unwashed masses of leeches and parasites invade, covet, bear false witness, and steal in order that social engineering and redistribution of wealth confiscate and provide: “From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs.”  

    Now the President is SELECTED, NOT ELECTED, by the one-party communist state.

    The current Democratic candidate lost the election, so the current Democratic candidate won the election – really?

    American freedom survived for a mere 71 years before succumbing to Karl Marx and, his fellow traveler, Lincoln’s communist onslaught.

    The Justices of the Supreme Court swore an oath to support the Constitution.

    They failed miserably and completely. 

    The singular American failure is the judicial branch, with emphasis on the Supreme Court. 

    America was “taken” from Great Britain.

    Now it must be “taken back” from the feasting communists (liberals, progressives, socialists, democrats, RINOs, AINOs). 

    Ah, the price of cowardice and treason. 
    ____________________________________________

    “I only regret that I have but one life to lose for my country.”

    – Nathan Hale

      1. *LORETTA

        Nothing wrong there. It’s supposed to be service to the nation done by the best and brightest the nation has to offer.

        Unfortunately no one wants to be that scrutinized anymore. Then the worst and least intelligent take the seats for personal gain.

        Eyelashes and bleached blond bad body baby girl type thing.

        Signed
        Spartacus

  17. What a CROCK! The EU is so self-contained and afraid of their history and the shadows of the tragedy of war they are willing to place barriers of Natural Rights to assuage the weak timid souls who take umbrage. Speech, thought, lifestyle, prejudices or any litany of other natural rights that do not physically impact others, are not for the authorities to control in a free society. The World is in a quandary, we have religions Warring, Democracies sliding towards Socialism, Eco insanity, Physiological confusion and host of more known and unknown symptoms causing short- and long-term disunity among individuals and countries. Our daily lives in America have changed from the serene to the absurd in a very short time, where a visit to the park on Sunday can end in mayhem, a disturbance (riot) in support of a criminal, arrest(s) for prayers, a confused demented leader, fibbing vice leader, and a media consumed with partisan dogma that’s what’s become us. Tugboat full of fools, towing the ship of State to unknown destinations that could well describe the United States.

    May God help us All!!!

  18. Elon Musk is continuing the censorship tradition on ‘X’.

    His platform has been keeping mentions of the Harris campaign from trending by its chatbot Grok.

    Turley of course “won’t notice it”.

    1. Traversing the threadbare wire hung by Obama, Biden, civil liberal corporations et al to mitigate the forward-looking risk of progressive convictions and viability.

    2. @George

      😝😝😝 The invitation has been extended; she is welcome to do her own interview whenever she likes. You are a ridiculous person. A very bored (and boring) one, too.

    3. George,

      If you’re half right, you’re half wrong.

      If you’re half wrong, you’re all wrong.
      __________________________________________

      Turley, of course, “won’t notice it.”

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