“We are Monitoring”: EU Censor Threatens Musk Ahead of the Trump Interview

In my new book on free speech and various columns, I write about the European Digital Services Act (DSA) as one of the greatest assaults on free speech in history. One of the most notorious anti-free speech figures in the world is European Commissioner for Internal Markets and Services Thierry Breton. Where some censors express reluctance in their work, Breton is chillingly enthusiastic in threatening those with opposing views with charges and financial ruin. The latest is Elon Musk for his decision to interview former President Donald Trump.

After Musk bought Twitter and pledged to dismantle much of the company’s massive censorship system, Breton went after the company at the urging of Hillary Clinton.

For those who criticized the European Union as a dangerous step toward a transnational governance system, Breton is the personification of their worst fears. He has wielded the sweeping powers and vague standards of the DSA to force companies to engage in comprehensive censorship regardless of national laws or their own values.

As I wrote in the book:

“Under the DSA, users are ’empowered to report illegal content online and online platforms will have to act quickly.’ This includes speech that is viewed not only as ‘disinformation’ but also ‘incitement.’ European Commission Executive Vice President Margrethe Vestager has been one of the most prominent voices seeking international censorship. At the passage of the DSA, Vestager was ecstatic in declaring that it is ‘not a slogan anymore, that what is illegal offline should also be seen and dealt with as illegal online. Now it is a real thing. Democracy’s back.’”

This week, Breton was irate that Musk was giving Trump a forum on X, formerly Twitter. He was not the only one. The interview was interrupted by what Musk said was a distributed denial-of-service (DDS) attack by people trying to prevent the interview.

Notably, a DDS attack interrupted a prior interview with Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis. Like Breton, many were working tirelessly to prevent others from hearing opposing views.

Breton threatened Musk that the EU was watching and that the Trump interview could bring crippling sanctions under the DSA: “As there is a risk of amplification of potentially harmful content in [the EU] in connection with events with major audience around the world, I sent this letter to @elonmusk.”

As in the past, Breton refused to recognize that he was interfering with elections in another country. Sitting in his EU office, he demanded that whatever is discussed in the interiew should satisfy his own content standards: “As the relevant content is accessible to EU users and being amplified also in our jurisdiction, we cannot exclude potential spillovers in the EU.”

Breton expressly warned that the censors were watching. Breton wrote of the Musk-Trump interview: “Therefore, we are monitoring the potential risks in the EU associated with the dissemination of content that may incite violence, hate and racism in conjunction with major political – or societal – events around the world, including debates and interviews in the context of elections.”

Breton added his perfunctory mantra that free expression is fine, but only if he does not consider it “harmful.”

“This notably means, on one hand, that freedom of expression and of information, including media freedom and pluralism, are effectively protected and, on the other hand, that all proportionate and effective mitigation measures are put in place regarding the amplification of harmful content in connection with relevant events, including live streaming, which, if unaddressed, might increase the risk profile of X and generate detrimental effects on civic discourse and public security.

He then threatened to impose ruinous financial penalties until Musk censored others, including potentially one of two leading presidential candidates in the United States.

Musk responded with a defiant message that began with “Bonjour!” He added a vulgar Tropic Thunder reference.

Breton is one of the key figures in an anti-free speech movement that has swept over Europe. It is now using the DSA, as many of us predicted, to force other countries to censor their citizens and even their leaders. It is free speech regulated to the lowest common denominator, the level set by the EU and Breton.

There is a crushing irony. The left has made “foreign interference” with elections a mantra of claiming to be defending democracy. Yet, it applauds EU censors threatening companies that carry an interview with a targeted American politician. It also supports importing such censorship and blacklisting systems to the United States. When you agree with the censorship, it is not viewed as interference, but an intervention.

If citizens want to see where the anti-free speech movement will take us in the United States, they need only to look at Europe where free speech is in a virtual free fall. As I wrote in The Indispensable Right: Free Speech in an Age of Rage”:

“The impact of these laws was evident in a poll of German citizens. Only 18 percent of Germans feel free to express their opinions in public. Fifty-nine percent of Germans did not even feel free expressing themselves in private among friends. And just 17 percent felt free to express themselves on the internet. The only true success of censorship has been the forced or compelled silence of those with opposing views. That pretense of social harmony is treated as success even though few minds are changed as fewer voices are heard in society.”

Musk may be the only individual with sufficient money and commitment to stand up to the EU and the global censors. That is precisely why Musk is being targeted by so many in the media, academia, and government. It is also why many of us support X and its struggle against the EU and Breton.

Jonathan Turley is the Shapiro Professor of Public Interest Law at George Washington University. He is the author of “The Indispensable Right: Free Speech in an Age of Rage” (Simon and Schuster).

257 thoughts on ““We are Monitoring”: EU Censor Threatens Musk Ahead of the Trump Interview”

  1. What is the difference between the European Digital Services Act and Book-Burning?

  2. I’m still puzzled by people viewing Musk as a defender of Free Speech. He may censor High standing Conservatives less or not, but his new AI bots are censoring with greater efficiency then before. Elon said “when someone is saying disagreeable thing it’s normal you don’t give an audience…” meaning you go in X’s digital dungeon, yet they may still steal your content and give to there influencers to make money. According to Elon, this is not censor.
    We’re heading towards a caste system where they will rip the Bill of Rights, yet keep its content which will apply to selected demographic slices of the caste tranches according to status. For losers like myself, I cannot expect any of my Rights to be protected by any candidates offered this year, as the real candidate on both tickets is the one party system Deep State Party and we know who are the leaders there.

    But interestingly, nobody is asking the ACLU why they have never included in their groups of Goyim victim of intolerance or hate. As there is such a thing as anti-Goyism (or anti-Gentilism)

    “The inconsistency between Freud’s passionate anti-religious tirades and his profound commitment to Jewishness significantly highlights an important aspect of Freud’s personality and productions, namely his anti-Gentilism. … although the facts of Freud’s personal sense of Jewishness and his anti-Gentilism are duly recorded, mainly in his letters, the significance of these facts somehow disappear in Jones”s treatment of them.”
    The Myth of Psychotherapy: Mental Healing as Religion, Rhetoric, and Repression
    By Thomas Szasz (1988) pages 138-139

    Taking into account that Freud was the Father of the Western World Cultural War of the 20th Century, these facts should weigh heavily in any “Hero” institution pretending to defended all injustices.

    1. American Civil Liberties Unburdened (ACLU) is a politically congruent (“=”) corporation.

    2. @Denys

      I’m still puzzled by how troll farms seem to think they are convincing anybody of anything. Obscene amounts of money were supposed to buy compliance, dammit! Guess we all have our conundrums. 🤔

      1. James,
        I am still puzzled by how they think we even read their comments, or any comments by Anonys.

  3. Where is our crack Attorney General and Secretary of State in all of this? Someone should be firing a sharp diplomatic warning shot at Commissioner Thierry Breton and the EU. The target was two US citizens meeting in the US having a discussion and letting the public listen in – all well protected by our first amendment.

  4. We should recognize that the approach to disinformation by many leaders in Europe is the exact same approach voiced by the Vice Presidential pick Tim Walz. We should recognize that there is no nuance between the two opinions but rather identical word for word statements that affect your desire to say what you want to say without fear of imprisonment. The next step that follows has always been the formation of legislation to codify the penalties that must by employed lest you place one toe over the line. Tim Walz would prefer that you spend your life looking over your shoulder. Yet there are still those who persist in saying it can’t happen here so just wake me from my nap after the election. Does this describe you?

    1. @Thinkitthrough

      Yup. And if we succeed in turning things around, those same people will likely never know anything happened. It’s an actually legitimate form of tunnel vision. Some will even say, though we’ve rejected modern progressivism whole hog, that modern progressivism saved the day; there are plenty of voters who haven’t paid much attention to anything for nigh on 30+ years, when it was ‘cool’ to insult Newt Gingrich, and they are the same people that thinks republicans invented the KKK or that Trump sleeps with minors. They honestly believe that Mitch McConnell is the ‘king’ of the republican party. 🙄 C’est la vie. They are idiots. Some of them not even really that useful. We continue regardless, and in the future they will be glad we did, even if they can’t connect the dots and be grateful to us that held the line. And they will likely still vote blue. 🤷🏻‍♂️

  5. Dear Prof Turley,

    It’s just as well the EU goes deaf . .. they’re dumb and blind too.

    I don’t know about the EU, but its difficult enough to decipher, at any given time, exactly what Donald Trump is trying to say even when you speak American. .. like I do.
    [Elon is not much better. Elon launched a bright red Telsa s into the vast void of space with the top down and the radio playing .. . what does that mean?!]

    JD Vance spent Sunday morning making the rounds trying to interpret what Trump is saying for the flabbergasted State-run media outlets. Another wasted hillbilly elegy imo.

    Trump says a lot of things. Maybe the most things, and the biggest crowds to hear them. Beautiful, fabulous and tremendous high IQ MAGA things, and sometimes not. .. it’s like speaking in tongues.

    *lets talk American .. .

  6. See below as Dennis the Demented Draft Dodger makes 13 claims without supporting evidence. One of the 13 is that there was no supporting evidence.

    Bwahahahahahahahaha

  7. Jonathan: While Harris/Walz are touring the country–drawing huge crowds–what is DJT doing? He’s posting all hours of the day and night making bizarre claims that the Harris rallies are all AI generated. And he gives “press conferences” where he doesn’t take Qs but rambles on with his continued lies and on Monday he gave an “interview” to Elon Musk on X. The interview with Musk didn’t start well. There was an almost 45 min. delay die to technical glitches. Musk tried to blame the delay on a “massive DDOS”. There was no evidence to support the claim the delay was due to a denial-of-service attack.

    The Musk/DJT “interview”, if you want to call it that, was Musk endorsing all of DJT’s rambling, incoherent and crazy statements. It was one crazy statement after another by DJT. He said he welcomed “climate change” because he thinks he’ll “have more oceanfront property”. Then DJT told Musk “if something happens with the election [he loses] which would be a horror show, we’ll meet the next time in Venezuela because it will be a far safer place to meet than our country”. Now there’s an idea. Musk and DJT moving to Venezuela to hang out with Pres. Maduro!

    DJT and Musk are in similar predicaments. Musk’s X is suffering from the loss of advertising because big companies don’t want to be associated with neo-Nazi propaganda. And now Musk complains he is under close scrutiny by the EU because he incited the anti-Muslim riots in the UK. DJT has a similar problem. He social media company is tanking. Investors are bailing before the bottom falls out. And DJT is flailing around–he doesn’t have a response to the huge crowds that are showing up at the Harris/Walz rallies and recent polls that show them leading in some of the battleground states.

    DJT and Musk are birds of a feather. They are complaining about how bad the world is treating them. Pretty pathetic stuff!

    1. Here is Dennis, complaining about how badly Trump and Musk are treating him. Pretty pathetic stuff!

      Glad Dennis was among the 1Billion listening in.

    2. “And now Musk complains he is under close scrutiny by the EU because he incited the anti-Muslim riots in the UK.”

      Your failure to take your anti-psychotics is showing.

    3. Dennis: Thanks. Speaking of “pathetic stuff”, DJT is doubling down on his claim that he almost died in a helicopter crash with Willie Brown. Trump claims that he has “flight records” to prove it. When a CNN reporter asked him to produce the flight records, she reported that he responded in a sing-song voice. Meanwhile, Willie Brown was interviewed by a San Francisco television reporter and the repeated that he never went up in a helicopter with Trump, and never would because so many people dislike Trump, including helicopter maintenance people. Willie Brown was interviewed by CNN and repearted that he never was on any helicopter with Trump. Included in Trump’s lie about the helicopter near-death experience was Trump’s claim that Willie Brown had very bad things to say about Kamala Harris, too, something else Willie Brown denies.

      According to “Politico”, dateline 8/9/24:

      “The man who almost crashed in a helicopter with Donald Trump told POLITICO Trump confused him with former San Francisco Mayor Willie Brown — despite the former president’s repeated insistence it was Brown.

      It was Nate Holden, a former city councilmember and state senator from Los Angeles, who said in an exclusive interview late Friday that he remembers the near-death experience well. He and others believe it happened sometime in 1990.

      “Willie is the short Black guy living in San Francisco,” Holden said. “I’m a tall Black guy living in Los Angeles.”
      “I guess we all look alike,” Holden told POLITICO, letting out a loud laugh.

      Holden, who is 95 years old, was in touch with Trump and his team during the 1990s when the flamboyant Manhattan developer was trying to build on the site of the historic Ambassador Hotel in Los Angeles. Holden represented the district at the time and supported the project.

      In the interview, Holden said he was watching Trump’s press conference on Thursday when the former president claimed that Brown was aboard during the white-knuckle helicopter ride.

      In fact, Holden says he met Trump at Trump Tower, en route to Atlantic City, New Jersey, where they were going to tour the developer’s brand new Taj Mahal casino. In the lobby at Trump Tower, Holden says he was greeted by several people as “senator,” salutations that miffed the host.

      “He said, ‘You know I own this building but nobody seems to know who I am,’” Holden remembered the mogul saying.

      Holden recalled being a bit worried about the helicopter ride because it came not long after five people, including three high-level executives of Trump’s casinos, were killed when their chopper crashed in 1989 over Forked River, New Jersey.

      But Holden says Trump told him they were in good hands, noting that he had two capable pilots. “He tells me to ‘look at the sky,’” Holden said. “‘Oh my God, it’s so beautiful.’”

      Also aboard was Trump’s late brother, Robert, the attorney Harvey Freedman and Barbara Res, Trump’s former executive vice president of construction and development. Res told POLITICO on Friday that she also remembers the ride well. In fact, she said she wrote about it in her book, “All Alone on the 68th Floor.”

      Now, WHAT were Trump supporters saying about “Dementia Joe” not knowing what the hell he was talking about? The entire purpose of Trump making up the story about Willie Brown was to try to get in a dig at Kamala Harris by claiming that Willie had said bad things to say about her. Other than fake tales of bravado, there wasn’t any other reason to make up this story, and the fact that he refuses to back down and claims that he has “flight records” to prove his claims is reminiscent of the interview Trump did with Meredith Vieiera in which he said that he had people in Hawaii digging up dirt on Barak Obama, and “you wouldn’t believe what they’re finding”. Well, he’s right about that–we wouldn’t believe it, but the bigger question is Trump’s pathological lying, his refusal to back down, his lies about having “flight records” to prove his claim and WHY the Republican Party continues to support him. Alternatively, it’s entirely possible that Trump is psychotic–hallucinating about an event that never happened, but either way, he has no business trying to be the leader of the free world. He’s 78 now–what fantasy world will he be in in 4 years’ time?

      1. You wanna know what delusional is???

        You coming here daily with the same worn out rant thinking anyone is paying attention or cares one iota about your thoughts.

        You thinking that your spastic rants do anything other than turn people off to whatever message you think your bringing.

        Delusional Gigi.

        1. Anonymous: there isn’t any “worn out rant”–the interview with Holden was just a few days ago. But the bigger question posed by this incident is Trump’s fitness for office, his endless lying and why Republicans look the other way after having trashed Joe Biden’s fitness for office because he mis-spoke. Trump couldn’t have flight records for a flight that never happened. As to the 1990 flight, there are too many witnesses who were aboard along with Holden, including Res, who wrote about the incident in her book. Also, if the problrematic flight happened when Trump was in office, it would have made the news. There WAS a helicopter trip when Trump was in office to survey damage from a wildfire and then-governor Jerry Brown, along with governor-elect Gavin Newsome, were aboard, but it didn’t nearly crash. Trump loves to call people “crazy”, but this incident should be taken very seriously because it leads to the reasonable question of whether Trump is hallucinating or just plain lying. His doubling down and lying about nonexistent flight records just add more fuel to the fire and is further proof of his narcissism—he just can never be wrong, can never admit he’s wrong and will never apologize.

          1. Every single day is the same WORN OUT RANT about Trump. EVERY SINGLE DAY

            Want me to link to all of them, Gigi? You’ve lied about what you’ve said befrore…

            In fact, you just did it again!

            Bwahahahahahahahahahaha

            1. “but this incident should be taken very seriously”

              Bwahahahahahahahahahaha

              It is a talking point we’ve heard ad nauseam since the President Joe Biden debate debacle in Atlanta and one we can expect to hear even more should Democrat power brokers convince the “Big Guy” to step aside for the good of the nation.
              Paraphrasing: Joe Biden is a decent/good/honest man who has enjoyed a highly successful presidency and has served his country selflessly and honorably for
              But let’s be clear. As one of the very few people in this business to write a book on the man going back to his days in law school, I can say without fear of contradiction that Joe Biden is most certainly NOT a good or decent or honest man. In fact, he’s quite the opposite.
              SNOPES’ DEBUNKING OF CHARLOTTESVILLE HOAX SHOWS BIDEN LIED, SAYS TRUMP CAMPAIGN
              Biden also has not enjoyed even a moderately successful presidency. The cost of living is up more than 20 percent since he took office. Gas prices are up 50 percent. Violent crime has driven law-abiding citizens out of major American cities (all run by Democrats with liberal district attorneys) to red states like Texas,
              The president’s disastrous border policies have allowed more than 10 million people to enter this country illegally, including hundreds on the terror watch list. Education test scores are at their lowest levels in decades. The U.S. has provided Ukraine with a virtual blank check to fight a war against Russia that is in a hopeless stalemate. The U.S. withdrawal in Afghanistan was one of the most tragic and humiliating moments in our country’s history. And China’s posture toward Taiwan has never been more aggressive.
              Otherwise, wow… What a success!
              BIDEN REPEATS FALSE FOOTBALL CLAIM TO WEST POINT GRADUATES AT COMMENCEMENT ADDRESS
              But getting back to Biden’s character, does a good or decent or honest man so plagiarize his work and speeches, both in law school and as a presidential candidate, as he did in 1988?
              Does a good or decent or honest man blatantly play the race card to win votes, as he did in 2020 by insisting he was arrested while on the porch with a Black couple during the civil rights era? Because that never happened.
              Does a good or decent or honest man tell families in Maui, some of whom lost family members and/or their homes, that he could relate to what they were going through by saying he and his family (and Corvette) also survived a raging fire in his home that nearly killed his wife and cat? Because the fire chief at the time said the blaze was a small kitchen fire that was quickly extinguished and endangered no one.
              Does a good or decent or honest man pretend his 7th grandchild doesn’t exist simply because she was the product of his crack-addicted son’s fling?
              Does a good or decent or honest man warn that then-presidential candidate Mitt Romney was going to put Blacks “back in chains” if elected?
              Does a good or decent or honest man use his late son as a prop over and over when talking to Gold Star families by saying his son Beau also died while on active duty in Iraq? Because Beau died of cancer years after coming home.
              Joe Biden has failed upwards his entire life and has lied so many times along the way, it’s impossible to list them all without going over a 100,000-word limit. Here are just a few of the biggest whoppers with cheese.
              • I once drove an 18-wheeler.
              • No soldiers died under my watch.
              • I inherited 9 percent inflation.
              • The Inflation Reduction Act” is the strongest bill you can pass to lower inflation.
              • I inherited a God-awful mess at the border.
              • The Border Patrol endorsed me.
              • I taught a political theory class at Penn.
              • I’ve traveled 17,000 miles with Xi Jinping.
              • My uncle was eaten by cannibals.
              I still can’t over that last one…
              You get the point. Joe Biden is not, and has never been, a good, decent or honest man, despite what every panicked Democrat and many media members insist as they try to coax him into retirement. He’s been a lousy president since 2021, and a lousy guy for at least a half century.
              And that’s no lie.

              1. Biden’s not running for President any more. Trump IS. Biden is old news. The tall tale Trump told about the near-death helicopter ride is something that Democrats will not allow to be swept under the rug because it is emblematic of what Trump is–either psychotic or a pathological liar who can never be wrong, no matter how much proof there is to the contrary.

                And, reliable historians all agree–Trump is the worst president in modern US history. Biden got America past COVID, got kids back in school, got businesses and restaurants open again for business, got leisure travel restored and turned around Trump’s recession. Biden brought unemployment to a 50 year low, manufacturing is returning to America, he mended relations with our EU and NATO allies that Trump trashed, he got passed the CHIPS Act, Infrastructure Act, Inflation Reduction Act and the American Rescue Plan that brought thousands of kids out of poverty. Inflation is coming down.

                Snopes didn’t “debunk” anything–Trump said there were “good people” on both sides. Then, later, he said that he condemned Neo=Nazis–they wree one of the 2 sides. Snopes included an editorial note pointing out these facts. And, BTW, Trump told the Proud Boys to “stand by”.

                I notice that you, as usual, cite NO sources for your claims.

                1. “Biden’s not running for President any more.”

                  Wait, how can that be??? You said he wasn’t demented and would win in November!!!

                  What happened, Gigi. Were you wrong? did you lie.

                  Delusional Gigi RANTS ON!!!

                2. “Biden’s not running for President any more. Trump IS. Biden is old news. “

                  Joe Biden IS the President of the United States, you fvcktard. Do even say this shit to yourself before you type it???

                  So, why arent you concerned about the CURRENT POTUS, Gigi?

                  Because you are delusional.

                  1. As I said before, Biden has been one of the most successful presidents in recent history. Your MAGA attacks are BS. America is thriving again after Trump nearly destroyed it.

                    1. No you said he is old news.

                      And you lied about his success.

                      And you just lied again.

                      And you didnt answer the question.

                      If you are so concerned about Trump for lying about his past, why werent you concerned about Biden, who is still president?

                      I will answer for you, since you refuse to answer.

                      Because you are a hypocritical, lying, delusional spastic. And apparently proud of it.

                    2. “one of the most successful presidents in recent history.”

                      But yet he had the lowest approval rating of ANY President EVER. Why is that, Gigi? Delusional.

                      Even with a fawning press, his ratings were lower than Trump!!

                      57% of the country say he is the WORST PRESIDENT EVER

                      EAT IT, Delusional Gigi

                      https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2024/04/24/joe-bidens-approval-ratings/

                      https://www.reuters.com/graphics/USA-BIDEN/POLL/nmopagnqapa/

            2. You can call me names all you want–but I cited Politico who quotes the actual people who were there when the hard landing happened and who refute what Trump said. HOW doe sthat make ME either delusional or a liar? WHAT counter-facts do you have?

              If there’s any “worn out rant” here–it’s you, Anonymous, Tom, or whatever other name you are using at the time–you constantly accuse ME of lying, but I always cite my sources. You don’t seem to understand that I’M not the one saying this–the actual witnesses are. You accuse me of being delusional–HOW is it delusional for Holden, Res and Willlie Brown to deny what Trump said? You are either paid to attack people who tell the truth about Trump or it’s YOU who is delusional.

              And it’s not a “rant” to point out that a candidate for the US Presidency has a serious issue–either pathological lying or maybe psychosis–he hallucinated an event that never happened and refuses to back down despite massive credible counter evidence. You MAGAs may dismiss the fact that Trump constantly lies, but most Americans DO mind. We simply cannot believe anything he says.

              1. “but I always cite my sources.”

                YOU ARE DELUSIONAL

                You have been told this a hundred times.

                POLITICO IS NOT A SOURCE

                Politico may have sources (or they may be lying again).

                THE ATLANTIC IS NOT A SOURCE

                VOX IS NOT A SOURCE

                MEDIA-ITE IS NOT A SOURCE

                RACHEL FVCKING MADDOW IS NOT A SOURCE

                Here it comes spastic

                FACTCHECK.ORG IS NOT A SOURCE

                When you claimed Texas made electricity from crude oil, NBC was your “source”. NBC is NOT A SOURCE.
                I cited the SOURCE, the Texas Public Utilities Website. You’re Ignorant fvcking response…that neither of us has personal knowlege. Thats who you are. Pathetic.

                When you claimed inflation was 9%, you used factcheck.org as your “SOURCE”.
                I used the Bureau of Labor Statistics Website to prove your spastic ass WRONG. THAT is a SOURCE.

                DELUSIONAL GIGI thinks a lying ass “writer” is a source.

                Delusional.

              1. When did you lie? you lie so much you can’t even recall when.

                You said you never claimed the inflation rate was 9% when Trump left office. You called me a liar for saying you said it.

                You lied again when you claimed you misspoke. YOU BELIEVED IT.

                YOU’re A LIAR. A pathological one at that.

                You didn’t think it was serious when JOE made up lie after lie after lie about his life. Thats not old news. thats current news. You are still the same pathetic sycophant you were then. Current.

                You’ve NEVER admitted Joe is delusional.

                Because YOU are delusional.

                1. I’m not going to go over ancient history with you–WHAT did I lie about in the above-post–YOU ACCUSED ME OF lying–WHAT did I lie about? I cited interviews Politico did with Willie Brown, who denies ever going in a helicopter with Trump, and with Holden and others who DID go on a helicopter and say it was 1990.

                  1. “WHAT did I lie about in the above-post–YOU ACCUSED ME OF lying–WHAT did I lie about?”

                    You’re lying right now. Cut and paste where I accused you of lying today.

                    I said you are delusional. And you just proved me right again.

                  2. LOL gigi thinks if she hasn’t lied in the last 3 days, she’s not a liar anymore.

                    Bwahahahahahahaha

                    How long after 6th grade did it take you to get your virginity back??

                  3. ‘Gigi’– “I’m not going to go over ancient history with you”
                    Meaning her posts from yesterday, last week, last month…
                    Then continues talking about a story from 1990.

              2. Your name!

                It’s not Gigi.

                It’s NUTCHACHACHA!

                Why are you lying about your name?

                Did you change it legally?

          2. Delusional Gigi said this:
            “but this incident should be taken very seriously”

            Joe said this:

            I was at Ground Zero the morning after 9/11

            I watched the bridge collapse in PA

            I was arrested with Nelson Mandella

            I was born in the same hospital as my grandfather

            I was born a year to the same day my grandfather died

            I was congratulated by a dead man

            I was nominated for the Naval Academy

            I used to drive an 18 wheeler

            I was arrested, standing on a porch with a black family

            I’m the first in my family ever to go to college

            I never made $400K

            My uncle was eaten by cannibals

            I went to a historically black college

            The list goes on.

            Funny, gigi didn’t want to take any of this seriously….

            1. NOBODY cares about what Joe Biden said–he’s not running for President. Trump is. Trump is either lying or is psychotic–either way, that is concerning.

              1. It wasn’t concerning to you when it was Biden, when he was running for President. YOU denied that he was demented or even diminished.

                Now you hypocritical pretend to be concerned about Trump.

                You’re a LIAR. You, Trump and Biden should all get along well.

                Pretend to be stupid if you want. We’re used to it.

              2. Trump is either lying or is psychotic–either way, that is concerning.

                You crack me up. You have no shame.

                If Trump is lying, why is that concerning? He’s told 50k lies LOL. Every time he does, you get concerned..

                Why weren’t you concerned about Bidens lies? Why aren’t you concerned about Walz’s lies? Why arent you concerned about Kamala’s lies?

                Yes, yes, very concerning. Spastic.

                1. ‘Gigi’ is obviously very smitten with Trump.
                  She (supposedly) knows every single little detail about him.
                  He’s such a bad boy. The One. Her OCD TDS just can’t help itself.

                  1. I note once again that you have no factual response to the Trump lie about the nonexistent near death helicopter ride with Willie Brown, so YOU go on a rant about Joe Biden and me. That is exactly the tactic that MAGA media and Trump use, and it doesn’t work.

                    1. The crazy lady is at it again. She can’t even remember her name, which is why she used Natasha in the past.

                      30-40 years ago, there was trouble on an air flight, and Trump was with a prominent black person. Trump may have confused one politician with another; I don’t know. This question mark is Gigi or Natasha’s big revelation about Trump’s lies, which is more about memory, but Gigi doesn’t know the difference.

                      OK, crazy lady, I will accept Trump erred in a recollection 30-40 years old. What is your point?

              3. Walz is on video no less than EIGHT DIFFERENT TIMES, claiming to have retired as a Sargeant Major.

                That is a violation of the UCMJ, Article 106.

                He even had the Speaker of the House introduce him as such.

                Is he lying or psychotic? Either way, is it concerning, Gigi???

                You are delusional.

                —-Tom

                1. It is being reported that First Sergeant Tim Walz will withdraw from the race if he is required to visit the battleground states

              4. “NOBODY cares about what Joe Biden said–he’s not running for President.”

                Ahhhhh, poor Gigi. She is so delusional.

                Everyone should care about what Trump said, but not about what the POTUS said.

                She has defended the CURRENT PRESIDENTS lies for 3-1/2 years.
                She continues to say he is a-ok.

                She’s such a concerned citizen.

                Gigi You are a laughingstock and ha e zero self respect.

          3. Ninety percent of each of your daily rants is copied and pasted from the previous day’s rant.

            Would it kill you to proofread?

          4. Gigi, Anonymnous has had the majority of his posts removed this morning because he has been getting too foul mouthed personal with other commenters. Now he’s toned it down and has upped the obnoxiousness. It was a noticeable difference. It seems his constant ad hominem attacks and foul mouthed insults forced the moderator’s hand.

              1. Svelaz is just miffed that I outed him posting as Anonymous this morning because he is on the lie catching radar.

              2. “Anonymous is not a single contributor. There are lots of anonymi.”

                WELL SAID!

        1. HullBobby,
          Just mindless ranting. Not worth reading. Just scroll past.

          1. @Everybody

            Agreed. Gigi is one I never bother with. I get the Anonymous ones at times because some post thoughtful comments anonymously. Hint: you can attach an alias username to the alias email you are likely using to post anonymously. It’s six and a half dozen to using ‘Anonymous’.

        2. Agreed! What would be the point of reading her stuff? She’s a one-woman slush pile.

  8. It wasn’t a Muslim immigrant. It was a British citizen. Since British citizens don’t have access to firearms like we do, knives are the most common weapon used. It’s not exclusively “a Muslim thing”.

    1. Anonymous 11:25 am- The accused murderer was the son of an immigrant and part of the immigrant community. They are individuals who are still at risk for radicalization and non assimilation into the greater community. I think the Brits on the scene know the difference. And I am sure they are aware of the great number of immigrants and citizens who have not assimilated into their new country and seem, in many cases, not inclined to assimilate. Also stabbings in the UK are at over 50,000 per year and reported by the British press. 3 little girls. Yeah I think I might riot also. Maybe it will make a dent in the thick skulls of their political leaders.

      1. GEB,
        People should be free to protest the murder of three little girls.
        The murderer, should be charged, have his day in court. If he is found guilty by a jury of his peers, too bad they cannot hang him for his crimes.

      2. Geb,

        Wanting to label the immigrant community and connect it to the murderer who is a British born citizen from wales is nothing more than a veiled attempt to lay blame on immigrants and sow hate towards the community.

        That is precisely what those intentionally spreading rumors, including using a fake name, to incite violence against immigrants wanted to do.

        It’s the same racist sentiment used to push Brexit on uk voters.

      3. Assimilation is not the issue either. The murderer lived in the uk all his life. The radicalization of young immigrants often happens when they are bullied and ridiculed by racist citizens. Racist Brits took the opportunity to use the incident to paint the immigrant community as criminals and radicals. Spreading rumors and accusations online with deliberate intent to seek violence against immigrants are not protected acts of free speech. Elon fanned those sentiments on X purely for profit and increased engagement on his platform. That’s why the DSA is justified with its claim that they are watching him. The free-speech absolutist doesn’t seem to understand free speech also requires responsibility for exercising it.

  9. Democrats, also known as Lemmings, have a long history of believing the lies told to them by their leaders. As if it is inbred, Democrats seem incapable of critical thinking and collectively their short term memory is about on par with a Yellow Lab. Who else could cheer while their leaders accuse their political opponent of being a threat to democracy while cheering just as loudly for the Vice President who supported a coup of the sitting President. Democrats have shown an equal disdain– actually a shocking disdain– for the First Amendment while their leaders push the boundaries of censorship as far as possible to silence those who do not walk lock-step with them. Ironically, none of this would have been possible without a compliant media who historically has been a primary beneficiary of the First Amendment. Unfortunately, we have learned that they have been all too willing to trade their integrity and even their profession for access to those who are working so hard to remake America. We are paying the price for several generations who have been taught that personal sacrifice for the good of the many is an old-fashioned, unnecessary hindrance to getting the instant gratification they want.

    1. As if it is inbred, Democrats seem incapable of critical thinking and collectively their short term memory is about on par with a Yellow Lab

      It is telling that Democrats / MSM are literally rewriting history, esp on Tim Walz.

      Democratic Gubernatorial Candidates March To Abolish ICE
      MINNEAPOLIS – Democratic gubernatorial candidates Tim Walz and Erin Murphy joined in a protest in Minneapolis weekend, calling for no borders and to “abolish ICE.”
      https://alphanews.org/democratic-gubernatorial-candidates-march-to-abolish-ice/

  10. European Commissioner for Internal Markets and Services Thierry Breton, and European Executive Vice-President Margrethe Vestager are the epitome of Kafkaesque bureaucrats, Deep State apparatchiks, wielding power along PC arbitrary dogmatic lines. The argument for censorship of speech that is judged as harboring ‘harmful content’ that ‘incites violence, hate, racism’ and ‘generates detrimental effects on civic discourse and public security’ easily slides down the slippery slope into arbitrary dogmatic censorship and the dictatorship of the humanist cultural bourgeoisie running state bureaucracies. Their actions bring about not so much a utopian society, as a dystopian tyranny.

    Nadine Strossen, former head of the ACLU (before it went ‘woke’) in her book ‘Hate’ argues that hate speech should not be countered with censorship, but with more speech, counter speech, using reasoned arguments to demonstrate why such speech is wrong. Such ideas should not be swept under the rug of censorship, where they will only fester, to eventually burst like an untreated abcess on the body politic, but treated with the antibiotic of clear, reasoned argument.

    That is not to say that speech which clearly incites to violence, when it ‘directly, demonstrably, and immanently causes certain specific, objectively ascertainable serious harms’ must be countered by not just counterspeech, but also by law enforcement.

    The problem arises when the state tools of censorship are applied to ‘disfavored speech’, so-called politically incorrect speech, which leads to tyranny, and the loss of freedom of speech. This is a result of the politically correct (NeoMarxist) movement on our campuses and in our bureaucracies, campuses where students are not taught how to think (aka critical thinking), but indoctrinated in what to think (critical theory). Such is the beast known as the Nanny State, with its incubators on the Nanny Campuses of western society, ‘theme parks for endangered Marxist species’ (locution courtesy of Prof. of History Michael Sugrue).

  11. It’s interesting the image of Hitler you use JT. Hitler referred to immigrants, people of Jewish descent, Roma people, people with disabilities as vermin. trump uses the same language. Demeaning people to subhuman status is the first step in eliminating them.

    Thanks for the reminder JT, showing how similar trump is to Hitler.

    1. Trump said that MS-13 gang members are vermin. MS-13 members have a tear drops under their eye signifying the number of people they have killed. Trump is correct in his assessment. Hitler said that a race of people were vermin. Compared the two is dishonest in its formation. The art of taking a comment out of context is the hiding place of the person without an educated response. Mostly such comments are to be found among the young and uninitiated. In many occasions this lack of honesty continues in adulthood. Therein, Anonymous is properly explained and revealed. She’s been told to think it think it she does.

      1. TiT,
        It is the lies from MSM they repeat over and over again.
        Thankfully we are much smarter then them.

      2. Believe what you will, trump is using the language of hitler for a reason. trump has already talked about the next step, round them up and deport them AND/OR put them in detention camps. I do not like the language of trump at all, he demeans everyone, I do not want this person in any sort of authority in our government.

        1. So you’re OK with members of M-13 (the objects of Trump’s language) being free to roam the streets of America, rather than deporting or jailing them. Apparently you never been the victim of one of their countless crimes.

        2. “Believe what the truth if you will. Or believe my spastic fantasy of what Trump will do, based on nothing. He was never President”.

          SMH

  12. Turley’s audience is just another cesspool of social media hostility, incapable of civil dialogue.

  13. Is Camels Harris going to denounce the EU for interfering in “our democracy”? Antarctica will melt first.

  14. Dear Mr. Turley, thank you for your article and a special thanks to GEB for penning a great comment although he was in a bad mood. I, too feel a “bad mood” whenever I read about the censorship going on in the world against the conservative thought. My question is what is the left afraid of with the conservatives? We have a real fight going on here in Wisconsin not only with the national election but with state wide ones as well. I can only hope the poor economy will drive people to the Republican Party this November, after all, “it’s the economy, stupid!”

    1. Anonymously 10:43AM. Appreciate the note. I would suggest you do yourself a favor and move to Indiana. For the most part they are sane. A little exuberant about basketball but generally nice people. Slow to warmup to newcomers but once they do they stick. They welcomed this immigrant from the Deep South. Of course I have no real accent and sound very generic. The state is a little dull at times but that’s ok. Excellent Universities.

  15. Trump has proposed three debates.
    The one on ABC, Harris has agreed to.
    The other two, one on Fox the other on NBC, Trump has said he will still attend even if Harris does not, and he will make them into town halls.

    1. ^ Article isn’t about debates.
      Upstate posts about debates.
      Shilling for Trump like Gigi does for the Dems.

  16. As we should recognize quite well, multi-generational welfare programs transform humble beneficiaries into arrogant entitlees. We need to give the EU an intervention. The United States needs to wean them and every other dependent nation off of our taxpayer’s teat.

    1. “We need to give the EU an intervention”…… they can hate us for free !!!

  17. *LORETTA

    It’s worse than just this. They’ll eventually fail .

    Btw I skip all anonymous. It saves me reading disgusting language. Form of censorship…

  18. Voting Harris-Walz? Then you’re voting for IslamoCommuNazism.

    Democratic vice-presidential candidate Tim Walz has repeatedly hosted an alleged extremist Muslim leader who pledged “unwavering support” for Palestinians after the Oct. 7 terror attack and once promoted a Neo-Nazi propaganda film praising Hitler, according to a report.

    Walz, Minnesota’s two-term governor, even doled out cash to the Muslim American Society of Minnesota, which is helmed by Imam Asad Zaman, the Washington Examiner revealed Friday.
    https://nypost.com/2024/08/09/us-news/tim-walz-has-hosted-muslim-leader-who-didnt-condemn-oct-7-and-touted-hitler-film/

    1. You say voting for Harris-Walz is voting for IslamoCommuNazism? Then you’re a moron.

    2. Ben and Jerry are about to introduce a Nazi flavored Ice Cream for this year’s 2024 Presidential Election… :-). I just wonder if they’ll have a few declinations… Cherry Nazi, Black Licorice Nazi, Plain Vanilla Nazi, Maybe French Vanilla Nazi, or even Rose Elixir Flavored Nazi…?

  19. They censor citizens and opposition voices, while their governments continue to lie and gaslight the public about Ukraine and Israel. As for “violence and hate” — their campaign of violence in Ukraine and Gaza belies their claims that they want to make people safe. So, if the European leadership isn’t opposed to fascism, who really won WW2?

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