Report: The Officer Who Killed Ashli Babbitt Had a Long History of Disciplinary and Training Problems

I have previously written about the dubious investigations of the shooting of Ashli Babbitt on Jan. 6th and the alleged violation of the standards for the use of lethal force by the officer who shot her. I strongly disagreed with the findings of investigations by the Capitol Police and the Justice Department in clearing Captain Michael Byrd, who shot the unarmed protester. Now, Just the News has an alarming report of the record of Byrd that only magnifies these concerns.

Liberal politicians and pundits often refer to multiple deaths from the Jan. 6th riot. In reality, only one person died that day, and that was Babbitt, who was shot while trying to climb through a window. However, the media lionized Byrd and portrayed the killing of the unarmed Babbitt as clearly justified. That is in sharp contrast to the approach that the media has taken in other shootings by law enforcement.

An unjustified killing by police on that day was inconsistent with the public narrative pushed by the pundits and the press.

As I have previously written, what occurred on Jan. 6th was a disgrace. However, it was a riot, not an insurrection. (It was certainly not an act of terrorism as claimed by some Democratic politicians). A protest at the Capitol resulted in a complete breakdown of the inadequate security precautions, a failure that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi privately admitted but only recently was disclosed.

The failure of Pelosi and others to properly prepare for the protest, despite the offer of President Donald Trump of 10,000 National Guard troops, does not excuse the conduct of the rioters who attacked the Capitol, interrupted the constitutional process, and committed property damage.

Babbitt was one of those rioters. She was wrong in her actions, but the penalty for breaking a window and unauthorized entry is not death in this country. I previously spoke with her mother, Micki Witthoeft, and her husband, Aaron Babbitt, about their continuing effort to expose what occurred that day.

The new report confirms what many of us had previously heard about the Byrd controversy.

Babbitt, 35, was an Air Force veteran and Trump supporter who participated in the riot three years ago. She was clearly committing criminal acts of trespass, property damage, and other offenses.  However, the question is whether an officer is justified in shooting a protester when he admits that he did not see any weapon before discharging his weapon.

Just to recap what we previously discussed in the earlier column:

When protesters rushed to the House chamber, police barricaded the chamber’s doors; Capitol Police were on both sides, with officers standing directly behind Babbitt. Babbitt and others began to force their way through, and Babbitt started to climb through a broken window. That is when Byrd killed her.

At the time, some of us familiar with the rules governing police use of force raised concerns over the shooting. Those concerns were heightened by the DOJ’s bizarre review and report, which stated the governing standards but then seemed to brush them aside to clear Byrd.

The DOJ report did not read like any post-shooting review I have read as a criminal defense attorney or law professor. The DOJ statement notably does not say that the shooting was justified. Instead, it stressed that “prosecutors would have to prove not only that the officer used force that was constitutionally unreasonable, but that the officer did so ‘willfully.’” It seemed simply to shrug and say that the DOJ did not believe it could prove “a bad purpose to disregard the law” and that “evidence that an officer acted out of fear, mistake, panic, misperception, negligence, or even poor judgment cannot establish the high level of intent.”

While the Supreme Court, in cases such as Graham v. Connor, has said that courts must consider “the facts and circumstances of each particular case,” it has emphasized that lethal force must be used only against someone who is “an immediate threat to the safety of the officers or others, and … is actively resisting arrest or attempting to evade arrest by flight.” Particularly with armed assailants, the standard governing “imminent harm” recognizes that these decisions must often be made in the most chaotic and brief encounters.

Under these standards, police officers should not shoot unarmed suspects or rioters without a clear threat to themselves or fellow officers. That even applies to armed suspects who fail to obey orders. Indeed, Huntsville police officer William “Ben” Darby was convicted of killing a suicidal man holding a gun to his head. Despite being cleared by a police review board, Darby was prosecuted, found guilty, and sentenced to 25 years in prison, even though Darby said he feared for the safety of himself and fellow officers. Yet law professors and experts who have praised such prosecutions in the past have been conspicuously silent over the shooting of an unarmed woman who had officers in front of and behind her on Jan. 6.

Byrd went public soon after the Capitol Police declared that “no further action will be taken” in the case. He then demolished the two official reviews that cleared him.

Byrd described how he was “trapped” with other officers as “the chants got louder” with what “sounded like hundreds of people outside of that door.” He said he yelled for all of the protesters to stop: “I tried to wait as long as I could. I hoped and prayed no one tried to enter through those doors. But their failure to comply required me to take the appropriate action to save the lives of members of Congress and myself and my fellow officers.”

Byrd could just as well have hit the officers behind Babbitt, who was shot while struggling to squeeze through the window.

Of all of the lines from Byrd, this one stands out: “I could not fully see her hands or what was in the backpack or what the intentions are.” So, Byrd admitted he did not see a weapon or an immediate threat from Babbitt beyond her trying to enter through the window. Nevertheless, Byrd boasted, “I know that day I saved countless lives.” He ignored that Babbitt was the one person killed during the riot. (Two protesters died of natural causes and a third from an amphetamine overdose; one police officer died the next day from natural causes, and four officers have committed suicide since then.) No other officers facing similar threats shot anyone in any other part of the Capitol, even those who were attacked by rioters armed with clubs or other objects.

The new report confirms prior accounts that Byrd had prior disciplinary and training issues. According to Just the News, they included “a failed shotgun qualification test, a failed FBI background check for a weapon’s purchase, a 33-day suspension for a lost weapon and referral to Maryland state prosecutors for firing his gun at a stolen car fleeing his neighborhood.”

Given this history and the shooting of Babbitt, Rep. Barry Loudermilk, R-Ga., the chair of the House Administration Oversight Subcommittee investigation, wrote to express concern over Byrd’s promotion to captain. Those incidents included Byrd firing at a car and allegedly misrepresenting the incident in claiming that “he fired at a vehicle trying to strike him when the evidence fellow officers found at the scene indicated he shot at the vehicle after it had already passed him and no longer posed a threat.” The letter states the Office of Professional Responsibility found that the evidence did not support his claim and “OPR concluded that the evidence suggests Byrd ‘discharged his service weapon at the vans after they passed him by.’”

The concern is that the political environment — and powerful interests in Congress — demanded that Byrd be cleared. As discussed in my new book, The Indispensable Right,” the Justice Department had publicly pledged to bring “shock and awe” in prosecuting anyone associated with the riot. Finding that the only person killed that day was an unjustified shooting would not exactly fit with the narrative.

The incidents also include allegations of improper handling of his weapon, including reports that Byrd left his service weapon in a public bathroom in the Capitol Visitor Center complex used by tourists and visitors.

The Babbitt family has continued to fight to force the facts into the open and has filed a civil case. A trial is now set for 2026.

Here is his letter detailing the disciplinary problems of Captain Byrd:

11.20.2024 Letter From Rep. Barry Loudermilk to USCP Chief of Police Manger.pdf

Jonathan Turley is the Shapiro professor of public interest law at George Washington University and the author of “The Indispensable Right: Free Speech in an Age of Rage.”

 

 

398 thoughts on “Report: The Officer Who Killed Ashli Babbitt Had a Long History of Disciplinary and Training Problems”

  1. After January 6 and Dobbs, the Dems were hoping for a huge political windfall. What they got: reduction of a red wave to a red ripple in 2022. Beyond that? Not much.

    Even the red ripple was enough to give the GOP control of the House, where they have been able to use their majority to investigate the out-of-control weaponized justice system. Then two years later, for 2024, they again tried to play the abortion card as if it was a guarantor of electoral victory. Result: GOP gains presidency, gains control of Senate, and keeps control in the House.

    On the abortion issue, the people in each state are voting directly to establish policy state-by-state. The general trend is toward liberalization, and that is being accomplished pursuant to a process that Trump is on record favoring (the issue to be decided in the states). So, the Dobbs card has no power any more. The Dems lost their most precious precedent (Roe v. Wade) and were not able to convert that loss into political victory at the national level.

    With that said, the 49-year illegitimate reign of Roe did do something they want: it enshrined abortion in the psyche of the average American as a right that should not be severely restricted, albeit people are generally okay with some restrictions especially as the baby develops beyond the embryo stage. I’m not saying I personally favor any, all, or none of that; just saying what I perceive the average American’s mindset to be. It also seems likely to me that the same result would have happened without Roe. Notably, well before 1973 abortion laws in the states were trending toward liberalization anyway through the democratic process without the need for illegitimate judicial fiat.

    1. Important Correction:
      FOUR patriots died that day.
      Ashli Babbitt (shot)
      Roseanne Boyland (trampled and beaten)
      Kevin Greeson & Benjamin Phillips (both of heart attack and/or stroke – likely caused by commotion after crowd turned chaotic because of USCP throwing flash bangs etc) (FH)

      1. And again, when can we look forward to the arraignment and trial of Nancy Pelosi as an accessory in those deaths?

  2. Y’all need to get real here. First, officers use what’s been labeled a “force compendium” that dictates what actions they may take relative a threat. A firearm would only be used if the need to stop an assailant, for fear of serious bodily injury to themselves or others, outweighed concern for the assailants life. The officer does not fire to harm the assailant, he fires only to immediately arrest or halt activity. Secondly, I’m quite certain that what we’re witnessing here is a clear case of nepotism. What I believe we’ll find is that many of these Capitol Police officers are actually related to members of Congress. I’m also quite certain many of these officers, to include possibly Byrd himself, are donating to the party. And that these donations are quite often proffered as a means of compensating for shortcomings and/ or even averting further disciplinary scrutiny and or/ sanctions. I don’t think that media and the DC cabal are being at all honest or transparent. Add that Rosanne Boyland is also said to have died in the J6 riots and that video footage suggests she may have also died at the hands of Capitol Police officers.

    1. “A firearm would only be used if the need to stop an assailant, for fear of serious bodily injury to themselves or others, outweighed concern for the assailants life. ”

      You mean that you don’t regard a woman, facing away from you, climbing through the broken window or threshold of a door, as a viable threat? You’ll never be admitted to the Dim fan club with that kind of unconstructive attitude.

  3. The aftermath of the “insurrection” that wasn’t continues to evolve. As the one person responsible for the security of the Capitol, Pelosi had a devious reason for not accepting the additional security offered by President Trump. Holding true to the Marxist Saul Alinsky’s axiom about never letting a “crisis go to waste”, she was presented with a protest that should not go to waste. Let it proceed uncontrolled and it might turn into something that can be used.

    The irony four years hence is that the protest has been won. Or, as progressives might wail: The insurrection is done.

    1. So when can we try Pelosi as accessory before the fact in all of the deaths that occurred as a result of Jan 6?

  4. Difficult to understand how Liz Cheney’s investigation made no mention of the only person who was killed (my murder) on Jan 6th.

  5. Dear Mr. Turley, this all happened as Pelosi and Co. had hoped for beyond their wildest dreams.

  6. There was a Jan 6th video clip that showed Byrd walking behind his own people. Byrd is carrying what looked like a box or bundle in his left arm. Byrd has his handgun in his right hand and his finger is on the trigger. This is a major safety issue that was also covered up. Obviously promoted to keep him quiet.

  7. How can you oppose the 2014 “Ferguson Report” published by the DOJ (available to anyone online) but change your position on the January 6 police action? Can’t have it both ways!

  8. Watching the videos on the Babbit shooting there is a lot of confusion. Where did the officers go that were standing in front of the doorway prior to Babbit being shot. There were multiple officers with long rifles behind Babbit and they did nothing. An Antifa member filmed the Babbit shooting (Jayden X). How was he in position to document the shooting. Why was Babbit cremated so quickly, why wasn’t there a second autopsy. When there is an officer involved shooting the investigation takes time and the body is not released until the investigation is complete which takes time. I understand the body was released and cremated in two days

    How did Babbit, Jayden x and another photographer Taylor travel throughout the entire Capitol building in a direct route to meet up at the exact doorway with 5 to 8 cops on one side and a plainclothes cop on the other side and Babbit gets shot.

    What hospital did Babbit go to and what doctor pronounced her dead. There are so many irregularities in this incident that couple up with the lies of J6 that just don’t make sense

    1. @John

      The cremation isn’t an issue. Its a red herring.

      The videos taken on Jan 6th show that he violated the law and while he should have been charged… (Chauvaghn ?sp? did less in MN) he still faces a civil lawsuit along w the US Govt.

      She posed no threat. While in his statements he didn’t know what was in the backpack and thought it could be a bomb… that opens up a lot more questions and makes him look even more guilty.

      Hope her family gets millions and that others incarcerated should also sue the US Govt.

      -G

      1. Anon– “While in his statements he didn’t know what was in the backpack and thought it could be a bomb”

        Yes, every policeman is trained to shoot at backpack bombs a few feet from him.

        So much more fun, and louder, than shooting at paper targets.

        Everyone connected with this fiasco should be fired and permanently barred from any job requiring a brain or a conscience.

      2. “The cremation isn’t an issue. Its a red herring. The videos taken on Jan 6th show that he violated the law and while he should have been charged”

        Partly agree, but… There is some anecdotal evidence that suggests that some members of the CP or other LE were involved in instigating demonstrators in order to justify a disproportionate response at the time and justify the later charges. There has also been speculation that I have not seen debunked that DC cops were involved in plating the pipe bombs. What if there was conduct on the part of some of those officers present to instigate Ashley Babbitt to climb through the door, or otherwise make her an easy target for Byrd, and at the same time, create a basis for his exoneration? This could easily go beyond the misconduct of a single cop.

  9. I want to thank the good Professor Turley for his judgment in holding off on this post until after the election. Unlike Democrats and MEDIA spending pre-election months on commercials and stories churning up old, disproved propaganda designed to affect voting, Turley’s discretion, prudence, and integrity is why I return to this blog site.

  10. Will be interesting to see how, or even if, the USCP responds to that seemingly damning letter.

    The letter makes many points I would like to hear the answers to, exactly the job of the sub commitie on oversight.

  11. People that work on Capitol Hill, even ones that the Capitol Police see daily and know by name, still have to go through security protocols to enter the U.S. Capitol.

    Breaking down doors and breaking through windows, bypasses this security system, that daily visitors must comply with. The Capitol police officer was totally justified when violent protesters having already illegally breached the building were then breaching a more secure inner perimeter.

    If anyone is being honest, could you image Black Lives Matters protesters doing the same thing? Capitol Police treated the Trump coup plotters with kid gloves compared to most protesters.

    As one who grew up during the Cold War, Reagan Republicans used to denounce the communist block nations for doing what Trump supporters did on January 6. Republicans used to support the police and oppose criminals. Not your grandfather’s GOP!

    1. Not your grandfather’s GOP! says:
      If anyone is being honest, could you image Black Lives Matters protesters doing the same thing? Capitol Police treated the Trump coup plotters with kid gloves compared to most protesters.

      You’re not being honest, but you claim people aren’t honest if they don’t ignore what Black Liars & Marxists did for MONTHS.

      We don’t have to imagine the response, Not Your Grandfathers DNC!, you lying Soviet Democrat scum. The entire country watched your thugs attempting to murder police and none of those rioters were shot. This is the wrong blog to try another “Please Don’t Believe Your Lying Eyes”.

      We saw MONTHS of Democrats’ Black Liars & Marxists rioting and pillaging their way across the USA. In some of those riots, they were using deadly weapons to attack police such as throwing Molotov Cocktails.

      Just months before the three hour long riot of J6, there was an assault on the White House by you Democrats street thugs in Black Liars & Marxists and Antifa, attempting to breach the White House where they could murder Trump and his family. Biden called them “A courageous group of Americans”.

      And through all these months of attempted murders of law enforcement officers, not one of the officers facing real threats to their life from Molotov Cocktails or other weapons shot the rioter assaulting them. This piece of scum you’re attempting a false moral equivalency for murdered a women he could just as easily have shoved backwards through the window she was trying to crawl through.

      This is what that kid gloves treatment of rioters actually posing an actual threat of bodily harm to police AND POLITICIANS UNDER PROTECTION looks like outside the lying Democrat bubble:

      50 Secret Service agents wounded in White House riots as Donald Trump is taken to ‘terror attack’ bunker
      https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11752998/trump-secure-bunker-friday-george-floyd-protests-white-house/
      “A senior official involved in defending Washington D.C. said dozens of Secret Service officers were injured in clashes on Sunday night. The source said some rioters were throwing Molotov Cocktails and bottles at law enforcement officers.”

  12. This ‘officer’ got him a chance to kill a white person and get away with it. End of story.

    1. Old Man,

      That’s what I thought at the time. The constant media propaganda of white or Asian police unjustly picking on blacks is bound to leave a sense of grievance that is likely to trigger a few who think they see an opportunity to even the score.

  13. “a third from an amphetamine overdose.”

    Is Professor Turley referring to Rosanne Boyland? There are videos of her on the ground being beaten by what I remember to be a black female officer. I saw a better video at the time than the X video below.

    The autopsy said overdose, but then I remember Chauvin using a hold authorized in the training manual. Justice in America IS BLIND to the truth.

    https://x.com/3sidedstory/status/1520031750520381441?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1520031750520381441%7Ctwgr%5Eb826a14a1881a26bae403c8c4d8567b817b716f2%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtonexaminer.com%2Fnews%2F1857999%2Fvideo-shows-officer-striking-motionless-woman-on-ground-during-capitol-riot%2F

    1. Too bad for idiots like you and chauvin the jury of children’s peers disagree with your BS

      1. Regarding the Capitol police officer who died of a stroke the day after the January 6 riot, there is a potential issue that I have never seen addressed. The D.C. medical examiner determined that he died as a direct result of a blood clot that occluded the basilar and vertebral arteries in the back of the base of the skull. This is a rare event in someone so young (he was 42 y/o) without underlying risk of an inherited propensity to atherosclerotic disease or underlying autoimmune disease. What was unknown at the time was the rare risk of blood clots and stroke (both from blood clots and/or hemorrhage);posed by the COVID-19 vaccine. The Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine was approved for use by the FDA in early December 2020. As I recall, there was a frenzy then to quickly vaccinate government employees. The rare possible blood clot and stroke risk from the vaccine did not become apparent until 2 years later. So my questions are, was Officer Sicknick one of the early recipients of the COVID-19 vaccine and could this have been the reason for this rare type of stroke he suffered and that was responsible for his death, and was the stroke an event likely unrelated to the Capitol riot?

        1. Vincente-your points are well taken. However these are not rare strokes. Unusual yes but not rare and usually no symptoms prior to the actual death. There was also no evidence of trauma to his neck (alleged fire extinguisher trauma-not verified). The risk of clots post covid vaccine are real. These clots do occur in the young and often that is the result of incomplete formation of the circle Willis complex and altered and turbulent flow which can also give rise to clots. The youth of the victims just makes it more tragic. The other causes you mentioned are also possibilities.
          I have had to treat 1-2 cases in their 20’s who suffered the same type of event but survived but their damage remained massive and were permanently disabled.

          1. The question of whether the COVID vaccine could possibly be implicated in the stroke is an important one. I think there is still a wrongful death lawsuit pending.

        2. The D.C. medical examiner determined that he died as a direct result of a blood clot that occluded the basilar and vertebral arteries in the back of the base of the skull. This is a rare event in someone so young (he was 42 y/o) without underlying risk of an inherited propensity to atherosclerotic disease or underlying autoimmune disease.

          The medical examiner’s report was not made public, unlike George Floyd’s.

          In the case of Brian Sicknick, I saw no information about his health record, likely protected by HIPPA. It was reported:

          D.C.’s Office of the Chief Medical Examiner said Monday that Sicknick’s cause of death was “acute brainstem and cerebellar infarcts due to acute basilar artery thrombosis,” and the manner of death was “natural,” not a homicide, the Washington Post first reported.
          Source By NBC Washington, Associated Press and Scott MacFarlane • Published April 19, 2021

          Acute Basilar Artery Thrombosis is rare ~ 1% of all strokes.

          Occlusions of the posterior circulation arteries cause about a fifth of all strokes. When the basilar artery is occluded, clinical presentation ranges from mild transient symptoms to devastating strokes. Basilar artery occlusion (BAO) is rare. It accounts for about 1% of all strokes and is reported in about 8% of patients with symptomatic vertebrobasilar territory ischaemia

          Mattle, H.P., et al (2011) Basilar artery occlusion. The Lancet Neurology, 10(11), pp.1002-1014. doi: 10.1016/S1474-4422(11)70229-0.

          Causes of BAO:

          In autopsy series, atherosclerosis was reported as the most common cause of BAO and was usually extensive and not restricted to the basilar artery.7,25 In studies in which imaging was used for diagnosis of BAO, atherosclerosis was noted in 26–36% of patients, emboli in 30–35%, other causes (including dissection of the vertebral arteries) in 6–8%, and causes were undetermined in 22–35% of patients.18,20 Particularly in young patients, emboli or propagation of a thrombosis from a dissected vertebral artery into the basilar artery are recognised frequently. Atherosclerosis often involves both vertebral arteries and leads mostly to occlusion of the proximal and middle segments of the basilar artery. …..

          Rare causes of BAO include the following: giant-cell, infectious, and other types of arteritis; meningitis; cervical trauma; upper cervical instability with rheumatoid arthritis; coagulopathy; migraine; aneurysms; dissections and other dilatative arteriopathies of the basilar artery; hereditary arteriopathies; and complications after endovascular procedures and neurosurgery.21,28–31 (Mattle, H.P., et al, 2011)

          Cervical trauma, dissection are mentioned but since we do not have the medical examiner’s report, unlike George Floyd’s, we can not rule out possible trauma. It is curious that Floyd’s report was made available but not SicknIck’s report.

          What precipitated the stroke?

          We have no family history, personal medical nor social history, other than a former girlfriend of 11 years who lived with him but they had just separated. It appears they were still friends since Sicknick asked her to stay at his home to watch the dogs. The girlfriend revealed to CNN something that was not reported widely by the MSM for good reasons: COVID precautions

          On the morning of January 6, 2021, Brian reminded me that I needed to stay overnight to be with the dachshunds because there were pro-Trump protests happening over the outcome of the election. He said he would not be coming home until late the following day.

          Later that evening, the call came: the worst phone call of my life. It was from a US Capitol Police Officer who told me that Brian was in the hospital. I couldn’t comprehend what I was hearing. He said he would send an officer to my house. As I waited on pins and needles, I was finally met by a Virginia state trooper who could give me no information about what had happened to Brian. She escorted me to the hospital.

          When I arrived at the ER, there was no one there to greet me. I told a woman behind a desk why I was there. She asked me to sign in and sit down. I explained the severity of the situation, trying my best to remain calm. Thankfully, the kindness of the state trooper helped ground me in a very agonizing, frustrating moment.

          Eventually, I was greeted by the ER physician who told me the terrible news that Brian was on a ventilator and I could not see him because of Covid restrictions. I notified Brian’s mother, who immediately drove with her sister to the hospital. They also were not allowed to see Brian. The rest of his family soon arrived. Brian died the next day.

          https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/23/opinions/brian-sicknick-partner-grief-garza/index.html

          It appears he was taken to a hospital in the evening where he was monitored for > 12 hours until he died next day in hospital

          From a clinical perspective I would like to know what actions, if any, the local hospital ED staff took. Did they find any cervical trauma? What kind of workup did they do? Radiology? MRI should have been done at a bare minimum to check for brain trauma from the altercations from the riot. BAO symptoms are prodromal in nature and should have been observable upon Sicknick being admitted to the ED.

          Conclusions: Sicknick’s death was likely caused by a missed opportunity. He was fine one moment, then taken to a hospital to be monitored where he appeared to be less than responsive. A brain MRI should have been done upon admission to the ED to possibly offer thrombolysis treatment

          Often, non-specific prodromal symptoms such as vertigo or headaches are indicative of BAO, and are followed by the hallmarks of BAO, including decreased consciousness, quadriparesis, pupillary and oculomotor abnormalities, dysarthria, and dysphagia. When clinical findings suggest an acute brainstem disorder, BAO has to be confirmed or ruled out as a matter of urgency. If BAO is recognised early and confirmed with multimodal CT or MRI, intravenous thrombolysis or endovascular treatment can be undertaken. (Mattle, H.P., et al, 2011)

          I was taken to the ED a few months ago with symptoms consistent with a stroke. I had an MRI done in first 30 minutes of arrival. It was not a stroke but rather Bell’s palsy. I was lucky but fortunate the ED did an MRI. Sicknick apparently was not as fortunate.

          Changing the story from medical malpractice to insurrection violence by MAGA seems to have worked just dandy

          i’ve said it for years: shut down the Federal Government. Defund them all

      2. I can’t help it that you were born stupid. Go back to your bottle and rolling in the street.

    2. i also remember seeing the video of a defensless woman laying on the ground and a capital police officer continually beating her with a baton….i believe this police office was given some kind of award for “bravery” . this was terrible to see her beat while she was struggeling for breath…

    3. S. Meyer–

      Chauvin did use a restraint authorized and taught by the police. The picture in the police training manual looks exactly like what Chauvin was doing but the judge apparently wouldn’t allow the jury to see it.

      The Floyd autopsy says on the top of Page 2 that there are no life threatening injuries. It goes on to say that no damage was found in neck tissues and no petechiae in the eyes.

      On the other hand Floyd had a potentially lethal dose of Fentanyl [11ng/ml], Covid, other drugs, an enlarged heart, and significant arterial obstructions–90% on one.

      The only thing that probably didn’t kill him was action by the police.

      Minneapolis is paying for its exercise of mob justice convicting those police officers. The police department is understaffed, it is difficult to recruit new officers [legally safer to be a criminal] and the existing police appear to be holding back at times [the Floyd effect].

      If the protected class decides to burn down parts of the city again, who will stop them? Who will care? I won’t. As for the Jacobin Democrats, they will likely be cheerleading the ‘mostly peaceful’ protests.

    4. “Since the beginning of 2015, officers from the Minneapolis Police Department have rendered people unconscious with neck restraints 44 times, according to an NBC News analysis of police records.”

      “Minneapolis police used neck restraints at least 237 times during that span, and in 16 percent of the incidents the suspects and other individuals lost consciousness, the department’s use-of-force records show.”

      – NBC News

      1. Anon–

        There is a neck restraint procedure that does not involve blockage of the airway. Instead it uses pressure on the carotid and it very quickly causes unconsciousness.

        I saw it demonstrated on a volunteer once and was amazed how quickly the volunteer collapsed. Recovery was swift too. I didn’t volunteer to see what it was like.

        However, Chauvin’s restraint of Floyd was nothing like the technique that I saw demonstrated. It was easily seen to be different.

        But the technique I was shown seemed more benign than a taser, kosh, billyclub, or bullet, so there is that.

        By the way, don’t expect NBC not to twist even genuine information to suit a ‘larger’ narrative.

  14. Russian-made missiles and bombs have been striking sovereign Ukrainian soil for three years. This is a major escalation from the peace that used to exist before.

    1. According to Russia, it’s ok for Russian and Iranian-made weapons to strike Ukraine, but it’s not ok for American and British-made weapons to strike Russia. This sounds like a double-standard.

    2. Re: “Russian-made missiles and bombs have been striking sovereign Ukrainian soil for three years.”
      Time has come for ‘Vlad the Impaler’ and ‘Rocket Man’ to be made a Don Corleone offer ala the Cuban Missile Crisis. How much of the world’s territory and how many millions of deaths will you require to be sacrificed in order to satisfy your needs, because the free world is ready to oblige just to be rid of both of you.

  15. And JT you are a ‘nazi’ for noticing! As an evil Trump supporter she deserved it, right?

    REMEMBER FOLKS, THE LEFT HATES YOU AND WANTS YOU DEAD.

    Look at what FEMA did in Western Carolina to those with Trump sign in their yards.

    antonio

      1. Your a commie, and if you didn’t want conservatives in brainwashing camps, etc as Hillary Clinton and others have called for, you would speak up in disagreement.

        All we hear from your corner is crickets chirping.

  16. As there were “hundreds” of protesters outside those doors, one might reasonably expect a crush at the front at the doors where Ashli was located. I would like to see video of the doors. A reasonable assumption – she was trying to escape being crushed, not breaking through the window. Video would help answer that.

      1. no, videos of the murderer and the aftermath are everywhere. I have not seen any videos of the scene outside the doors. I understand progressives are really stupid so I will explain like you are progressive – I want videos of Ashli BEFORE she climbed through the window. You should have learned before and after while learning man and woman in kindergarten.

        1. There are plenty of videos of the scene outside the door.

          Not progressive, just average intelligence.

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