We have previously discussed polling showing the media at record lows in public trust. Well, the latest survey from Gallup shows that the media hit another all-time low. What is most impressive is that plummeting readers, revenues, and layoffs have done little to convince the mainstream media that the problem is not the public but themselves. The only institution with a lower level of public trust is Congress, and that says a lot. It is like beating Ebola as the preferred communicable disease.Some 69 percent of Americans now say that they have no or little trust in the media. Only 31 percent say that they have a great deal or fair amount of trust. The trending line looks like the sales of buggy whips after the introduction of the Model T Ford. Gallop put it into sharp terms:
“About two-thirds of Americans in the 1970s trusted the “mass media — such as newspapers, TV and radio” either “a great deal” or “a fair amount” to “[report] the news fully, accurately and fairly.” By the next measurement in 1997, confidence had fallen to 53%, and it has gradually trended downward since 2003. Americans are now divided into rough thirds, with 31% trusting the media a great deal or a fair amount, 33% saying they do “not [trust it] very much,” and 36%, up from 6% in 1972, saying they have no trust at all in it.”
In my book, The Indispensable Right, I discuss how journalists and journalism schools have destroyed their own profession by rejecting objectivity and engaging in open advocacy journalism. The mainstream media has long echoed the talking points of the left and the Democratic Party, particularly in its one-sided coverage of the last three elections.
While Bob Woodward and others have finally admitted that the Russian collusion coverage lacked objectivity and resulted in false reporting, media figures are pushing even harder against objectivity as a core value in journalism.
We have been discussing the rise of advocacy journalism and the rejection of objectivity in journalism schools. Writers, editors, commentators, and academics have embraced rising calls for censorship and speech controls, including President-elect Joe Biden and his key advisers. This movement includes academics rejecting the very concept of objectivity in journalism in favor of open advocacy.
Columbia Journalism Dean and New Yorker writer Steve Coll decried how the First Amendment right to freedom of speech was being “weaponized” to protect disinformation. In an interview with The Stanford Daily, Stanford journalism professor Ted Glasser insisted that journalism needed to “free itself from this notion of objectivity to develop a sense of social justice.” He rejected the notion that journalism is based on objectivity and said that he views “journalists as activists because journalism at its best — and indeed history at its best — is all about morality.” Thus, “Journalists need to be overt and candid advocates for social justice, and it’s hard to do that under the constraints of objectivity.”
The Washington Post’s former executive editor Leonard Downie Jr. and former CBS News President Andrew Heyward released the results of their interviews with over 75 media leaders and concluded that objectivity is now considered reactionary and even harmful. Emilio Garcia-Ruiz, editor-in-chief at the San Francisco Chronicle said it plainly: “Objectivity has got to go.”
Lauren Wolfe, the fired freelance editor for the New York Times, has not only gone public to defend her pro-Biden tweet but published a piece titled “I’m a Biased Journalist and I’m Okay With That.”
Former New York Times writer (and now Howard University Journalism Professor) Nikole Hannah-Jones is a leading voice for advocacy journalism. Indeed, Hannah-Jones has declared “all journalism is activism.”
This is why the whole “Let’s Go Brandon” chant was as much a criticism of the media as President Biden. There is clearly an effort by owners like Jeff Bezos to change this culture rather than bankroll newspapers like the Washington Post vanity projects for the left.
Robert Lewis, a British media executive who joined the Post earlier this year, reportedly got into a “heated exchange” with a staffer. Lewis explained that, while reporters were protesting measures to expand readership, the very survival of the paper was now at stake:
“We are going to turn this thing around, but let’s not sugarcoat it. It needs turning around,” Lewis said. “We are losing large amounts of money. Your audience has halved in recent years. People are not reading your stuff. Right. I can’t sugarcoat it anymore.”
The response from staffers was to call for the new editors to be fired. One staffer complained, “We now have four White men running three newsrooms.” The Post has been buying out staff to avoid mass layoffs, but reporters are up in arms over the effort to turn the newspaper around.
The question is whether viewers and readers can still be brought back into the fold. New media is expanding as citizens have looked elsewhere for news. In the meantime, some media outlets and organizations seem to have doubled down on the bias. Just last year, Washington Post reporter Cleve Wootson Jr. appeared to call upon the White House to censor the interview of Elon Musk with former President Donald Trump. The newspaper did not say a thing about the incongruity of one of its leading reporters calling for censorship.
After Trump was elected, NBC selected Yamiche Alcindor to return to the White House despite a history of alleged bias. Alcindor, who also worked for PBS, was criticized for often preceding questions with attacks on conservatives or over-the-top praise for Joe Biden or Democrats. While others saw raw political bias, Alcindor explained that it was her job to use journalism to bend the “moral arc toward justice.”
Recently, the White House Correspondent’s Association picked an anti-Trump comedian who promptly encouraged Trump not to come to the dinner, saying that no one wants to be in the same room with him.
In the meantime, “J schools” continue to dismiss objectivity and crank out journalists who are told to embrace activism as the public flees legacy media for new media.
For the moment, it seems like journalists are content to write for each other and about 30 percent of the public. The echo chamber is getting smaller and smaller. So are the staffs on the outlets. Without public trust, the media is just talking to itself as the public turns to citizen journalists and new media on blogs and social media.
As someone who has worked for three networks and written as a columnist for three decades, the decline of American media has been painful to watch. The industry has operated like a ship of fools with no regard for their viewers or readers. However, we need the media. The press plays a central role in our democracy as reflected in the press protections afforded under the First Amendment.
The effort to break this culture at outlets like the Post and L.A. Times is encouraging, but these polls indicate that time is of the essence.
Jonathan Turley is the Shapiro professor of public interest law at George Washington University and the author of “The Indispensable Right: Free Speech in an Age of Rage.”
Putin is the reason that Ukraine had to be supported with billions in weapons. If Putin’s illegal war of aggression had not happened, there would have been no need to supply any weapons to Ukraine. Any sane person who can perceive reality properly can understand this. If you can’t, then you are probably a Russian troll with an agenda that does not consist of operating on objective truth and letting the chips fall where they may. Truth is a threat and must be torn down.
…and of course you’re not a Ukrainian troll or anything.
Mollie Hemingway offers the best and most reasoned argument that explains Zelenskyy’s scandalous behavior. Whenever Democrats (Zelenskyy is a puppet for Democrats) accuse anyone, it is always a sign of projection since lying is what they do solely.
The US started funding Ukraine’s war in 2014 when Barack Obama was President, and under Republican US House Speaker John Boehner / Democrat Senate President Joe Biden H.R.5859 – Ukraine Freedom Support Act of 2014.
Any Obama/Biden apparatchik who is now commenting on Zelenskyy’s behavior in the Trump/Vance meeting in Oval Office is null and voice, not to mention lies. They had their chance under Pelosi as Speaker, Schumer in Senate and the many apparatchiks in the Biden regime. Now they need to be held accountable for the billions of dollars given gratis to Ukraine, money that could have helped Americans in Maui’s deadly firestorm that destroyed residences, the thousands of displaced Americans who were hurricane victims, and/or offset the damage to Americans financially from Biden’s regime COVID lockdowns.
If nothing else US should consider seizing the minerals of Ukraine until the $350B is paid in full. Interest can be waived just to show that Americans are decent people.
Nothing in life is free. Nothing
Mollie
@MZHemingway
Yesterday, Susan Rice said of the Trump-Zelensky meeting, “There is no question this was a set up.” She revealed full knowledge of the mineral agreement, complained that it didn’t include “concrete” security agrees (meaning, apparently, commitment of US troops on the ground if conditions merit), and then mischaracterized Trump’s behavior, counting on most Americans to not have watched what transpired over the entire hour in the Oval Office.
You can look at this and dismiss it as typical Democrat talking points, but you could also view it as almost a confession, one that includes details about the current “Get Trump” effort.
Yes, Trump won the popular vote against unbelievable odds, but if you think Team Obama is being any less involved in quiet insurrections than they were during the first Trump administration (Russia collusion, Ukraine impeachment, etc.), you’re clueless. I’ll remind you that Susan Rice was in the small Jan. 5, 2017 meeting in the WH with other key Russia collusion hoax perpetrators.
Zelensky repeatedly declined opportunities to sign the deal in Kyiv and Munich, and requested the meeting at the White House. It later came out that Rice and Tony Blinken, Victoria Nuland, and Alexander Vindman may have been personally advising Zelensky to do this meeting in the way he did — that they recommended him to be hostile and to try to goad Trump into blowing up. Even though he didn’t, and even though Zelensky’s actions horrified many normal Americans, the Obama team went on the airwaves to falsely characterize what happened.
I think their goal was to have a wonderful performance by Zelensky, an angry Trump appearing to scuttle the deal, and the support of the neocon portion of the GOP to start applying pressure on Trump to have US Troop commitments as part of the “security guarantee.” It was a set-up, in Susan Rice’s interesting choice of words.
Instead, Zelensky had one of the worst stage performances of his acting career, and Trump was statesmanlike (against all odds) throughout. Zelensky followed Team Obama’s advice to be hostile to a tee, but it didn’t land how they thought it would. Surprisingly, one of the most important aspects of it not working out might have been Lindsay Graham’s reaction. Had he and other neocons thought Zelensky was being reasonable, Trump would be having to fight (even moreso) the neocon portion of the GOP in addition to Team Obama’s dirty tricks. Even the “conservative” neocon pundits on TV last night were admitting Zelensky had royally messed up.
As you can see from the hostility of the bureaucracy to any Republican oversight, no matter how reasonable or minor it may be, the entrenched bureaucracy and permanent DC apparatus is quite active. That goes quadruple for the deep state in the Intelligence Community. I’d expect more and more shenanigans and to be prepared so that you don’t fall for the next information operation. The post-WWII architecture in Europe and the US needs this war to continue or be settled on “US troops on the ground” type guarantees, even though that’s not what Americans want.
Things will heat up here, and it’s a very dangerous time.
11:24 AM · Mar 1, 2025
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https://x.com/MZHemingway/status/1895872853930545214
Estovir,
Thank you for posting that. Seems the Democrats are responsible for the “fireworks” in the Oval Office.
Right you are, either the leftist party staged it, or ole Zel’s there was so used to playing pin-the-tail on the buffoon with President Magoo that he, not seemingly being the brightest bulb in the chandelier, thought he could just push Trump around. Wrong!
Right you are, either the leftist party staged it, or ole Zel’s there was so used to playing pin-the-tail on the buffoon with President Magoo that he, not seemingly being the brightest bulb in the chandelier, thought he could just push Trump around. Wrong!
Zelly was being a politician and got his face picture getting into the SUV. The EU offered to buy the minerals so go ahead. We’d like our 350 bills back, Zelly.
The US is done with war.
A majority of UK aid to Ukraine was in the form of loans, though the ability to repay those loans is in doubt. The mineral deal could be written in such a way that it is essentially repayment of the loan to the US.
My parents’ generation (the Greatest Generation according to Tom Brokaw) made sure that their kids learned early in life how to form an opinion, and defend it, and also……and here’s what’s Gone in America today…….open-mindedness which allowed for a change of mind.
Oh good, the Euro food fight is about to begin.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/03/globalist-lovefest-western-leaders-line-up-zelensky-uk/
“Good riddance!”
Couldn’t of said it better.
We Americans have more in common with the old-world Russians than we do with China, Japan, Korea, most of Africa, and Persians.
European populations should think carefully about making America look foolish.
1. I’m not putting Our Men & Women in harms way for that Idiot Zelensky.
2. There are no dividend for the People made with War.
3. Remember Russia is our Neighbor to (It’s called Alaska)
4. With Peace come Prosperity for the People of the U.S.A.
5. It’s not Our fight. Reduce Bases Worldwide, bring Our Troops Home.
6. Invest: Buy; Greenland, Canada, Panama to the US Southern Boarder with Mexico,
7. Secure the Homeland, and root out the Traitors.
8. Audit the Federal Reserve, Fix the Wall Street-Federal Reserve Oligarchy’s Monopoly or get rid of it.
9. Make America affordable for all.
10. Transparency on a Global scale so that the World can see itself clearly.
Do it Now
A good list to start with ……Rooting out the Traitors is critical — that guy Chris Murphy from Connecticut has become a traitor, right up there with Adam Schiff, and that list likely contains 100 other well-known names.
Who the hell do they think they Are?
All that fear mongering about the harm Putin *might* cause America. Yet not a word about the *actual* damage Zelensky has done to America.
It is Zelensky, not Putin, who has bilked American taxpayers out of some $350 billion. It is Zelensky, not Putin, who is trying to drive a wedge between Americans and the president they voted into office. It is Zelensky (and yes, Putin, too) who has enslaved his own citizens.
When Putin invaded Ukraine, I 100% supported Ukraine.
Because of Zelensky’s grave errors, my view now is: A pox on both of your houses.
Internet Research Agency
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Research_Agency
The burden is on Putin to get out of Ukraine so that no one has to fight there.
There is no reasoning in good faith with propaganda trolls:
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-exposes-sick-russian-troll-factory-plaguing-social-media-with-kremlin-propaganda
Russia’s Troll Factory in Africa:
https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/31/europe/russia-africa-propaganda-intl/index.html
Spoken by a DNC troll in Northern Virginia. Who’s worse?
Why so defensive?
My fellow Americans seem to have had their bodies snatched by demonic imposters.
It’s the Snapture!
A little more clarity on the Zelensky failure.
“Before meeting Trump, Zelensky met with anti-Trump Democrats who advised him to reject the terms of the mineral deal the president was offering, according to Sen. Chris Murphy (D-Conn.). …
By listening to the nakedly partisan advice of Dems instead of dealing forthrightly with the current president, Zelensky betrayed his countrymen and, for now at least, leaves them without the military and diplomatic protection that only America can provide. …
In a perverse way, Murphy and other Dems got the outcome they wanted. The fireworks at the White House gave them an excuse to replay their Russia Russia Russia hoax. …
Meanwhile, Zelensky’s rejection of the mineral deal means there will be no American interests and businesses in Ukraine, which, as Trump repeatedly said, would help deter Russian attacks.”
https://nypost.com/2025/03/01/opinion/dems-lead-zelensky-ukraine-off-a-cliff-with-pressure-to-reject-mineral-deal/?utm_campaign=nyp_postopinion&utm_source=sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_content=20250302&lctg=62680bbe38a279b1870b18c5&utm_term=NYP%20-%20Post%20Opinion
S. Meyer,
That would explain a lot. Gotta wonder what the Democrats promised Zelensky to keep the war going?
Understandably, Zelensky was in the tank for Democrats. He supported Harris. He was looking towards those who gave him the most support, and I don’t think he recognized the Democrat and MSM political failures. Had he done so, he would not have appealed to the MSM and would have privately made them.
The Democrats are a failed party where policy is concerned. Zelensky should have covered his bases by supporting Harris and Trump. They forgot that Trump provided Javelin missiles when Obama-Biden provided sheets.
S. Meyer,
Biden squashed the tentative peace deal they had at Istanbul in the spring of 2022. Now the Democrats squashed this deal. Seems it is the Democrats who want more war.
Upstate, Democrats are unable to make crucial decisive decisions. Look at their provision of sheets instead of Javelins. Is it political because they view politics as more important than policy and wish not to get things wrong? They make watered-down decisions.
The Democrat Party is a failed Party that cannot govern. We see that in their cities and how they screwed up the world when they had four years of power.
It fills their pockets… Europe is deleted. The US has no young men to spare. Let’s move on with the economy.
Are you in the pay of the IRA?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Research_Agency
Wanting people to be free is slimy? Why are you on a free speech blog if you hate freedom so much?
“As someone who has worked for three networks and written as a columnist for three decades, the decline of American media has been painful to watch. The industry has operated like a ship of fools with no regard for their viewers or readers. However, we need the media. The press plays a central role in our democracy as reflected in the press protections afforded under the First Amendment.”
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We don’t need this media. Plus, we already have one. It’s called Joe Rogan.
mespo,
After both Trump and Vance sat down and did a unscripted, hours long interviews with Joe Rogan, I think in the next presidential election, TJRE will be a greater influence than news networks “debates.”
(OT)
Zelensky wants financial and military support from the Trump administration. To secure that support, his PR machine is trying to win the hearts and minds of Americans.
His strategy is to use three slimy tactics: manipulation, guilt, fear.
Manipulation: Concoct a “narrative” to blame the Trump administration for Zelensky’s train wreck at the Oval Office. (It was a “set up,” an “ambush.”)
Guilt: Zelensky is George Washington. By rejecting Zelensky, you’re rejecting your cherished Founding Father.
Fear mongering: If you don’t stop Putin now, you’re next.
More manipulation: Chronically misrepresenting the opinions of the very Americans Zelensky is trying to persuade. (Sally says: “Let Ukraine fight its own battles.” Which is then morphed into: “Why are you against freedom?”)
More trafficking in guilt: Ukrainians are dying for you. Why don’t you want to support them?
More fear mongering: Support Ukraine now, or “[t]he risk that Russia will occupy Europe is 100 percent.”
Such are the revolting tactics of those who are petulant and who feel entitled.
Why are you so against the idea of people doing what is necessary to be? Why is that so evil to you? Should the French have had their freedom restored? Why should you have freedom? Would you want it taken away? Why are so deserving of it and not the Ukrainians?
“Why are you so . . .”
All three slimy tactics in a single comment. Well done.
Keep it up. Those tactics worked so well for the Left in that last election.
#74. It’s not in the cards…
Anonymous
While I agree with you that Zelensky and Ukrainians are free to seek assistance however they can,
That does NOT mean that the US is under any obligation to give it.
Those of us born in the US are no more deserving of anything than those born elsewhere in the world.
So What ? Life is not fair – Get over it.
Because we have been blessed with the good fortune to be born in this country does NOT impose the duty to provide our blood and treasure for the freedom of others.
The US should not have intervened in WWI – both sides had effectively exhausted themselves and Germany was on the verge of financial collapse. Had the US stayed out a negotiated peace would bot have been so draconian as to lay the foundations for WWII.
Should the US have fought to free France in WWII – that is a question that need not be answered – Germany declared war on the US.
Regardless, for most of the past Europe has been in the National Security Interests of the US.
Even Obama in 2011 REPEATEDLY and PUBLICLY stated – while Russia was invading Crimea that Ukraine is NOT and never will be a national security interest of the US.
Bush I promised Gorbachev that NATO would never expand to within 1000km of Russia. We lied.
Should Zelensky be deeply concerned that after Trump is no longer President the “guarantees” of the US mean nothing ?
Absolutely. We left Vietnam. We left Afghanistan.
But facts are facts and Ukraine is NOT in the US security interests.
Do I want Putin to lose – absolutely. But I am not willing to spend MY blood and Treasure to achieve that.
None other than George Washington warned us as he left office to take care to avoid foreign entanglements,
Does the US bear some of the responsibility for the mess in Ukraine ? Absolutely.
More specifically the US NeoCons and Democrats that fomented Coups in Ukraine and engaged in stupid and loose talk that Russia had CLEARLY set as a red line about Ukraine joining NATO.
Russia invaded Georgia in 2008 – when the US and Europe started talking about adding Georgia and Ukraine to NATO.
Russia invaded Crimea in 2014 after Hillary staged a Coup in Ukraine replacing a Russia freindly leader with a US puppet.
And then AGAIN started talking about adding Ukraine to NATO.
In 2021 shortly after taking office – Biden and Nuland – who had her fingers in all the above nonsense, started talking about Ukraine joining NATO again. And Russia invaded. In May of 2021 Russia was prepared to strike a peace deal that would have been much better than anything Ukraine will get today – Biden dispatched Borris Johnson to kill that deal.
Absolutely the Ukrainians should be pissed at the US and EU for getting them into this mess.
But the did not go in blindly, they were willing participants in this mess.
Absolutely there should be consequences for all the democrats and NeoCons that sought to suck us into another “endless war” – and worse than the others – one that poses a risk of nuclear war.
But there will be no consequences.
Regardless, Neither Trump nor the majority of americans are complicit in this nonsense.
If Ukraine wishes to charge those who lied to it with war crimes – that is fine with me.
If you value the freedom of Ukrainians so highly – volunteer to fight in Ukraine
John Say,
Great comment! In the CNN interview, which Floyd posted, Marco Rubio stated that the mineral deal would give America a vested interest in the Ukraine. He stressed that they could not seem to get the Ukrainians to understand that was a security guarantee. Mining is a very labor and energy intensive process. There would be American companies and perhaps Americans, there on the ground doing the work. Putin/Russia would not do anything to put American’s in harms way, knowing that would in fact trigger a military response.
That is the thrust of Trump’s ideas to promote an independent Ukraine.
Realistically, it is doubtful that Putin will return all Ukrainian land, so compromise is needed. However, Zelensky wishes to have all land returned based on an American guarantee that will NOT happen under any administration. In some disputed areas, there are more Russians than Ukrainians. Russia will not give up the Crimea. It was Russian, and Khrushchev made an administrative change in the 1950s. Putin also wants to keep the land bridge to Crimea. Those pieces are a given, or the chance of WW3 rises precipitously. The rest of Ukraine is negotiable.
S. Meyer,
Well said. Neither side is going to get everything it wants. Both sides are going to have to give up something. They will have to come to a deal they can both live with. I am reading the UK, EU is going to try to come up with a peace deal. Will Putin deal with them?
“Will Putin deal with them?”
Yes. The Europeans wield little power and are as indecisive and ineffective as Joe Biden. Why shouldn’t Putin deal with amateurs?
Putin has energy. Who sabotaged the pipeline.
“We have no eternal allies, and we have no perpetual enemies. Our interests are eternal and perpetual, and those interests it is our duty to follow.”
— Henry John Temple
Precisely. Once again, America manages to get itself involved, if not instigate the events, in centuries old border disputes on the other side of the planet thanks to the leftists who’s sole aim is to weaken the country, corrupt the finances of the Nation and turn foreign aid and assistance into a laundromat of boom-a-rang donations back to the contributors, not freeing anyone from anything. Add to that the warmongers on the right who’s sole aim is to profit from the bounties of military munitions produced and sold for endless wars abroad.
Turn the pages of history, and you’ll find that these two combatants have been at each others throat since the breakup of the Kingdom of Rus during the twelfth century, followed by the Mongol invasion in what is now Ukraine, and the subsequent rise of the City Kingdom of Novgorod in the North, now the Russian Federation. The boot heel of the Soviet Union dictatorship kept things under control for the brief period of a couple of generations during our time, but with the fall of that draconian authority, the old simmering hatreds of centuries past digressed once again into a fisticuffs brawl.
And of course the globalists, war profiteers, and counterfeit compassion politicians in power here and in Europe when this erupted, and who have no regard for spending their citizens tax money, took the bait hook, line, and sinker.
https://mappingeasterneurope.princeton.edu/item/rus-a-brief-overview.html
#74. John Say, it is in fact God who decides where you’re born and all else.
Why are you arguing against freedom on a free speech blog?
No one is arguing against freedom. We are against a senseless war that could of been ended just after it began, if were not for Biden and saved thousands of lives and avoided all that destruction.
Putin made the choice to invade.
Sam,
Good analysis. Thank you.
UF: My pleasure.
#74. Not bad, Sam, point taken.
Less than 5 minutes video, the last minute or so about insane AP policies:
Floyd,
Not just the AP, but the leftists that have taken over the Democrat party. Fifteen foot pole is right!
Tulsi Gabbard for President in 2028 !! She’ll still look good.
#74 . The press can be multiform as expository or persuasive writing. Newspapers generally are expository in some form . Professor Turley uses comparative expository. He generally exposes two sides, gives evidence and concludes.
The left uses persuasive speech and press exclusively with an emotional hysteria component. Unfortunately the right repeats it and listeners and readers just can’t escape the left’s agenda.
Speech and press have become mental health issues. There’s Mangione shooting a ceo, assassination attempts on a president, wild screaming by congress people and it’s just not worth listening to anymore.
Didn’t anyone ever try to tell you that it is wrong and evil to be so cruel?
What is wrong, evil and cruel is Zelensky’s press gangs, forced conscription, when he could of said “no” to Biden, and accepted the peace deal they had at Istanbul in the spring of 2022. All of this death and destruction could of been avoided. Thousands and thousands of lives could of been saved.
Based on all of the war crimes and human rights violations that he has commmitted, Putin deserves to be badmouthed like this a million times more than Zelensky does. This would make more sense. You, apparently, like making nonsense. You are a very prolific producer of it there on your fallacy farm.
You are insane. Did you get the memo? Putin made the choice to invade Ukraine.
He could have chosen not to. It was avoidable and preventable. The invader is responsible for the ensuing death and destruction, not the invaded.
The death and destruction of the American Revolution could have been avoided if George Washington stopped fighting for freedom and independence, but that warmonger, Washington, insisted, and now you are the beneficiary.
Isn’t Ukraine harboring nazis?
We do not know enough about that peace deal – we do not know how close they were to agreement, or what Biden/Johnson offered/threatened to get Zelensky to back away.
Without that knowledge it is difficult to judge Zelensky.
But it is NOT difficult to judge Biden and Johnson. They prevented a possible peace deal,
They condemned atleast another million people to death.
We do not know what threats or promises they made to Zelensky.
But we do KNOW that what they did was wrong.
It does not matter how close a peace deal was – it was WRONG to stop negotiations.
As to “press gangs” we would all prefer that nations defending themselves did not have to resort to drafts and force to secure troops.
But it happens. I just barely missed eligability for the Draft during the Vietnam War.
The US has drafted people to fight wars that did not really even have our national interests at stake.
It is inappropriate to criticise a country whose existance is at stake for a draft.
Zelensky screwed up the WH press conference. He failed to read the room. and he failed to grasp the limits of his own power.
I have no doubt that there are problems with how War is being waged in Ukraine.
But he defence to Vance on that specific point was correct.
Bad things happen in war. It is not possible to conduct one perfectly.
Is someone pulling your fingernails out by the roots ?
What is the Cruelty you speak of ?
Telling the truth – even when it is painful is neither wrong, nor evil , nor cruel.
Stop the 1984 BS.
The world does not revolve arround YOUR feelings.
It is not cruel to speak the truth just because you do not like it.
One way that you can tell that a left wing nut is lying is that their remarks drown in appeals to emotion.
It is wrong – immoral, to actually violate REAL rights of others.
It is wrong – immoral – to use FORCE especially the FORCE of government – to take from others to get your way.
Former Fox News host and a once close friend of the President, Geraldo Rivera, slammed Trump for his ’embarrassing’ televised showdown with Volodymyr Zelensky in the Oval Office.
Geraldo Rivera took to NewsNation and branded the explosive peace talks as ‘scripted’ and claimed the commander-in-chief ‘ambushed’ the Ukrainian president.
‘I was so embarrassed by it,’ Rivera told the outlet’s Connell McShane. ‘I just could not believe what I was seeing. It was President Trump at his worst, President Trump as in ill-mannered bully insulting a war hero.’
Rivera further claimed that the on-air screaming match was formulated to ‘humiliate’ Zelensky and partially blamed Vice President JD Vance for the ‘shameful’ display.
‘And what role, indeed, did the Vice President JD Vance play? You know, a disrespectful neophyte who chips in, you know, what was he even doing?’ Rivera queried.
‘Why did President Trump need him for the photo op? I think that this seemed almost scripted by JD Vance and people, you know, similar ilk. It really was something that was shameful in many ways. And I think people will die.’
Rivera believed the talks, which seemed far from peaceful, would have a ‘catastrophic’ effect on the war between Russia and Ukraine.
‘People will die as a result of this catastrophe because there won’t be aid flowing, I believe, as necessary. This will interfere with real life. This wasn’t just theatrics. This was policy being acted out. I believe this whole thing was scripted by the Trump administration,’ he further asserted.
“Stanford University professor and prominent ufologist says he “100 percent” believes extraterrestrials have not only visited Earth — but have “been here a long time” and may even still be on the planet today. Dr. Garry Nolan, a professor of pathology at Stanford’s medical school, made the stunning claim during last week’s Salt iConnections conference in Manhattan at a session titled, “The Pentagon, Extraterrestrial Intelligence and Crashed UFOs.”
“Moderator Alex Klokus asked Nolan if he believes extraterrestrial life has visited Earth, and the prof replied, “I think you can go a step further — it hasn’t just visited, it’s been here a long time, and it’s still here.”
https://nypost.com/2023/05/23/stanford-prof-says-aliens-are-100-living-among-us/
No mention as to what Geraldo’s beliefs concerning outer space aliens running the leftist party is.
If I did that, I would be accused of ad hominen, but I guess it’s ok when you do it.
#74. Common knowledge, no?
#74 what did Gerald find in Al Capones safe? His comment was worth the same.
In a controlled economy, perhaps, but in a free economy, it is worth whatever you are willing to pay for it 🙂
#74 remember pet rocks, chia pets, people will buy anything…
Listen, clown, first of all, who are you quoting here?
Second, why didn’t you mention the LENGTHY explanation from Rubio, explaining all the stuff that was discussed and agreed to beforehand, and that the press conference was a pro forma prologue prior to the luncheon and signing. And how unprofessional Zelensky instead attempted to use the media. Yeah, THAT was the REAL ambush.
#74 exactamundo
So ? Some people share his views – others are sufficiently angry at Zelensky to lave Ukraine high and dry.
Several polls I have seen suggest there are far more of the latter than the former.
But most importantly, Zelensky was pushing for something he was never going to get. Not even from Biden or Harris .
As Obama said multiple times during his presidency – Ukraine is not and never will be in the US interests.
The Mineral Deal Trump came up with is the closest Ukraine can get to a security guarantee from the US.
Zelensky CORRECTLY asked what happens when Trump is no longer president,
and the answer is that If Putin is even able to do this again – then Zelensky has NO GUARANTEES atleast not from the US.
We may choose to send Ukraine weapons. But we will NOT send them troops. And unless we get another demented president in the future we will NOT risk nuclear war for Ukraine.
Strange things are going on in Europe right now. While SOME leaders are telling Zelensky to get back to washington,
Others are making a big deal about standing with Ukraine.
That is FINE – Ukraine IS in the national security interests of some European countries.
If they wish to broker a peace deal – they can.
If they wish to offer Ukraine a security deal – they can.
So far they have done pretty much the same as the US
They have sent hardware, but not troops.
Regardless, Eurppe has more at stake than the US does.
The US both by treaty and Because it is in our national interests WILL defend most of Europe if attacked.
But Europe is in our interests, Ukraine is not.
No spin about the Press conference in the Oval Office can change the FACT that Ukraine is NOT in the US interests.
There is not a single US president past or present that would say otherwise and Obana repeatedly as president said exactly that.