Supreme Court Hears Major Parental Rights Case Over LGBT Readings

 

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  1. Lets not be naive. Public education has always been propaganda, with an agenda that included political views. Whatever values the public school curriculum is based on, it cannot be based on nothing. The question is, who chooses those values, which is rarely discussed in public, usually left to the experts (who even the school board usually follows, unless they are the expert).

    The values underlying education should be made explicit, and the community should have a voice. At the same time, the community should not enforce a majority value on everyone……recognizing that some parents have different values and have the primary voice with regard to their children is the core of respecting the First Amendment and parental responsibility, as well as guaranteeing diversity in the classroom, when discussing those different values is not taboo.

    1. “Professors are complaining that attention spans are short and students are unable to read entire books. They are unable to write cogently on any subject.”

      While public schools must bear a large part of the responsibility for those failings, I believe that the internet and “smart” phones have played a significant part as well. NTM the influence of TV as a babysitter in slightly older generations of families in which both parents needed to hold full time jobs.

      1. #. Get some top notch physicians to test brain waves of various populations. There may be a change in brain waves in children who’ve spent copious time on computers thus changing the actual structure of the physical brain.

        As to the article, it’s social engineering. In an attempt to be neutral the state has chosen the idea there is no God. Many people know that is a lie.

        Do people have freedom to believe lies? Yes, but they should also know it is a lie. Some people prefer lies to truth especially when the lies are self serving.

        OT: May the Pope rest in peace with all sins forgiven. Why do people view dead bodies? People drive dead to various locations for viewings. Will the Pope be put into the Pope mobiles, sitting up with arm waving next? Strange burial practices. RIP

        1. Anthropologist have noted that most cultures view the body. The notion of noting this a last farewell seems only the product of an empty soul as it embraces atheism.

          That is a personal choice, but it is a vacant lot of ideology and that is evident in the actions of those without a cultural moral core – we see it daily on the news – our animal side is openly displayed by atheists.

          1. A last farewell perhaps but transporting in cars, putting the body on view as lying in state, the next stop is… the pope isn’t there. It’s an empty shell.

            The pomp and circumstance may very well get the attention of devils in the next life? Hmm, must be some money and stuff here…sure is.

            The Pope is on best behavior of course.

            1. Scandinavians put the body on a boat, set it on fire and sailed away so everyone would see the soul going to Valhalla. Funeral pyres were common in ancient Greek and Roman culture as in the hindu faith.

              Some primitive tribes placed the body on raised platforms to be consumed by wildlife. Others defleshed the bones and then buried or preserved the bones.

              I don’t understand your single minded view other than lack of anthropological information

              1. #. Just noting the Roman catholic burial practice (rite) vigil, mass, burial. Let us pray the Pope does not meet the butchers in hell. They need body parts. Poor people…

                The Egyptians were a piece of work, huh? Mummy’s and canopic jars and pyramids. The Chinese, too, buried their entire armies standing. That’s big.

                May angels protect all who sojourn through the valley of death. The butchers need the donors.

          2. #. Side note, there are atheists following religious laws because they reasonably think the advice given is good and practical requiring no belief or worship of a diety and afterlife. The same people use knives, spoons, chopsticks and forks when eating because it’s more sanitary than hands and fingers.

      2. Perhaps the ease at which women entered the workforce was a result of a 2-pronged agenda.

        First, you increase income tax 3 fold, father mother and daycare all now pay.

        Secondly you give children over, wholesale, to the media/education industry for indoctrination.

        1. Doubled the potential workforce without additional mouths to feed potentially… growth without offshore

    2. “The DA’s own guidelines state that diversionary programs are for crimes of less than $5,000”

      Those guidelines obviously do not apply to privileged classes such as civil masters, um I mean civil servants…

    3. “Parents should be a partner with his or her child’s teacher and each have their own role in a child’s life.”

      Baloney! Parents have the primary natural authority and responsibility for every aspect of the development of their child into an adult. In some cases, parents may face a practical need to delegate some of that responsibility to others. Education and medical care are two examples. However, that delegation in no way changes the primary locus of that authority and responsibility.

      1. And by that same logic, parents should be allowed to use tax money to send their child to the educational facility of their choice.

        It seems as though, again, the progs want their cake and eat it too.

        1. #. Perhaps yes with the understanding only a portion of the ADA can be claimed due to the collective use of money utilized by all pupils in a public school for ongoing years. Not all money in a classroom is just teacher pay but a fraction is, small fraction. A guess is maybe a couple thousand, 2 thousand or so can be taken or less. The catholics and others will be happy with it as they provide online classes.

          Parents can purchase 100 dollar computer classes and tutorials now.

        2. “parents should be allowed to use tax money to send their child to the educational facility of their choice.”

          I think the much preferable solution would be not to tax people to support education in the first place.

      2. Here’s a novel idea- get the teacher a secretary. The secretaries have secretaries so should teachers.

        😂 everyone expects their child to be a genius.

  2. Some fifty plus years ago the FDA approved adulterating commercially prepared food products with gender disrupting phytoestrogen rich soy and the hearing and vision damaging cooking oil preservative TBHQ (1972). In 1980 the FDA approved the expanded use of added artificially cultured “free” (can cross the blood-brain barrier) brain damaging, mind altering MSG. JT and a majority of his followers keep blaming politics when the real problem is two and a half generations of young Americans and their parents ingesting FDA approved food poisoning for higher profits for Big Food and, ultimately, Big Pharma, with no transgenerational studies done prior to those approvals. If you are younger than 45 you are excused from being so stupid as to blame each other for what the unduly rich imposed upon us all, now also manifesting as the rage beneath the insanity and the attacks on free, rational, education and speech and individual and property rights.

  3. There are ever-so-helpful “guidelines” for teachers to assist in the brainwashing (think of the trite phrase “climate change denier”!!!!!) – from the petitioners’ brief ———

    Along with the storybooks, the Board issued guid-ance for teachers to direct instruction. Drawing on sources like “Correcting Kids’ Stereotypes” and “Gen-der Spectrum,” Pet.App.635a, the guidance tells teach-ers how they should respond to various student ques-tions. They are directed to explain that “people of any gender can like whoever they like” and to interrogate students over whether they “think it’s fair for people to decide for us who we can and can’t like?” Pet.App.629a. Teachers are encouraged to follow-up with an “example,” like “My best friend is a woman and she is married to another woman.” Pet.App.630a. If students say it’s “weird” for a girl to claim being “a boy if he was born a girl,” the teacher is to emphasize that “not everyone is a boy or girl” and that “[s]ome people identify with both, sometimes one more than the other and sometimes neither,” so students “shouldn’t” “guess” but instead solicit others’ “pro-nouns.” Pet.App.630a-632a. When it comes to “what their gender is,” teachers are to tell students that “they are the experts on themselves” and that “[s]ome-times people feel like a boy or a girl, sometimes they feel like both, sometimes they feel like neither.” Pet.App.631a. Teachers are told to frame disagree-ment with these ideas as “hurtful,” Pet.App.630a, 634a, and to counter with examples of “[m]en who paint their nails” or “wear[] dresses,” Pet.App.633a-634a.
    The guidance documents also instruct teachers—twice—to “[d]isrupt the either/or thinking” of elemen-tary students about biological sex. Pet.App.629a, 633a. And teachers are instructed not to suggest there could be reasonable disagreement. Rather, they are to say that “[s]ometimes when we learn information that’s different from what we always thought, it can be confusing and hard to process.” Pet.App.630a.

  4. Short of a self-introspective declaration from Chief Justice John Roberts that his reign over the High Court has been an undeniable disaster for America, we have to face facts. John Roberts is the wrong guy at the wrong time to be shepherding the Supreme Court through these historic times. Donald Trump’s presidency is making history on so many levels in so many areas that a High Court acting like business as usual will not cut it.

    These are the times that challenge a nation’s soul, and the High Court keeping its normal schedule will not suffice. The Supreme Court needs to work 40 hours a week for all 52 weeks out of the year, like the rest of us. A part-time court in these times has already led to chaos. There are so many issues that need to be resolved that a normal schedule in not-so-normal times is doing tremendous damage to our republic.

    Democrats’ constant lawfare attacking the will of the voters at every corner by using the courts to stop the agenda that Americans sent President Trump to the White House to enact requires a Supreme Court that is present all year long. Democrats are pushing the limits and are destroying the public’s belief in the third branch of government with their lawfare and activist judges. The nation is splitting apart right in front of our eyes.

    Justice Roberts has done nothing to police the judges below him who are, by any measure, running wild with the Constitution. Countless judges across the nation should be removed and never be allowed near the law again. We have politicians in black robes doing things that seem unthinkable. These dangerous judges are running unabated through the American Justice System, creating massive and in some cases, irreparable carnage. It is time for a full-time high court to match the times we find ourselves in. They can go back to their lazy schedule when this is over.

    1. “Justice Roberts has done nothing to police the judges below him”

      I am far from being a fan of Justice Roberts. However, would you care to cite the source of Roberts’ alleged authority to “police” those judges, or, for that matter, a source for the allegation that those judges are “below him” in any sense of organizational structure as it is normally understood?

  5. what is in the “storyboooks”??????????!!!!!!!!! what are they trying to accomplish, other than brainwashing???????? more from the petitioners’ brief ===

    One of the selected books, Pride Puppy, is a picture book directed at three- and four-year-olds. Pet.App.234a. It describes a Pride parade and what a child might find there. Pet.App.254a-271a. The book invites students barely old enough to tie their own shoes to search for images of “underwear,” “leather,” “lip ring,” “[drag] king” and “[drag] queen,” and “Mar-sha P. Johnson,” a controversial LGBTQ activist and sex worker. Pet.App.270a (brackets in original).
    My Rainbow, a picture book for all elementary ages, Pet.App.237a, tells the story of an autistic boy who identifies as a transgender girl. Pet.App.358a-389a. When his mother points to her own short hair, he responds: “People don’t care if cisgender girls like you have short hair. But it’s different for transgender girls. I need long hair!” Pet.App.371a. The mother de-cides that her child knows best and sews him a rain-bow-colored wig. Pet.App.382a-385a.
    Intersection Allies is a picture book intended for “Kindergarten through Grade 5.” Pet.App.236a. It in-vites children to ponder what it means to be “transgender” or “non-binary” and asks “[w]hat pro-nouns fit you?” Pet.App.350a. By “standing together,” the book claims, we will “rewrite the norms.” Pet.App.345a.
    In another book, What Are Your Words?, Pet.App.548a, an uncle visits “their” niece/nephew, whose pronouns are “like the weather. They change depending on how I feel.” Pet.App.552a. The child spends the day agonizing over the right pronouns. Pet.App.553a-561a. Only at the end of the day, while watching fireworks, does the child finally conclude that “I’m like fireworks! * * * My words finally found me! They and them feel warm and snug to me.” Pet.App.562a. At least for “today.” Pet.App.564a.
    Another—Love, Violet—also for “Kindergarten through Grade 5,” Pet.App.239a, is about two young girls and their same-sex playground romance. Pet.App.429a-447a. One of the girls “blush[es] hot” when pressed about her “SPECIAL” valentine. Pet.App.435a. Teachers are encouraged to have a “think aloud” moment to ask students how it feels when they “don’t just ‘like’” but “like like” someone. Pet.App.275a.
    Born Ready, for all elementary ages, Pet.App.240a, tells the story of a biological girl named Penelope who identifies as a boy. Pet.App.448a-482a. When Penel-ope’s brother questions how someone can “become” a boy, his mother chides him that “[n]ot everything needs to make sense. This is about love.” Pet.App.465a. Teachers are told to instruct students that, at birth, doctors “guess about our gender,” but “[w]e know our-selves best.” Pet.App.630a-631a, 276a.
    Finally, Jacob’s Room to Choose is about two young children who identify as transgender. Pet.App.565a-580a. Their teacher uses a game to persuade their classmates to support gender-free bathrooms. Pet.App.572a-576a. After relabeling the bathroom doors to welcome multiple genders, the children pa-rade with placards that proclaim “Bathrooms Are For Every Bunny” and “[choose] the bathroom that is comfy.” Pet.App.578a.10

  6. Talk about a dictatorial mentality!!!!!! – more from the petitioners’ brief — it amounts to an effort to brainwash children!!!!! ——

    But in 2022, the Board introduced a series of con-troversial “LGBTQ-inclusive” storybooks to be read and discussed with students in pre-K through fifth grade. When hundreds of parents raised religious ob-jections, the Board for the first time eliminated notice and opt-outs—directing administrators and teachers that parents could no longer be notified when the books were taught or be allowed to opt their children out. The Board’s own documents reveal that its goal in compelling children to participate in this instruction is to “disrupt” their “either/or thinking” on gender and sexuality. And the Board concedes that children may “come away from [such] instruction with a new per-spective not easily contravened by their parents.”

  7. Wow – the petitioners’ brief illustrates a dictatorial mentality on the part of the school board. What is the purpose of public schools???????!!!!!!!!!!! Notice the nice-sounding, trite phrases. Here is an excerpt from the petitioners’ brief, page 9 —

    In 2019, Maryland enacted regulations seeking to promote “educational equity,” which it defined as “view[ing] each student’s” “gender identity and expres-sion,” “sexual orientation,” and other specified “indi-vidual characteristics as valuable.” Md. Code Regs. §§ 13A.01.06.01(B), 13A.01.06.03(B). As one aspect of implementing this regulation, in November 2022, the Board introduced “LGBTQ-inclusive” storybooks for instructing students in elementary school, along with corresponding guidance for teachers. Pet.App.272a; see also Pet.App.273a-275a. In deciding which books to adopt into its curriculum, the Board said it would review options through an “LGBTQ+ Lens” and ask whether books “reinforced or disrupted” “stereotypes,” “cisnormativity,” and “power hierarchies.” Pet.App.622a.

  8. There’s no escaping the optics of cutting off advanced classes for the best and brightest: dumb down the student population. Put them in mass produced cheap shoes. There is not an issue whether public schools can craft advanced classes for gifted learners. I saw it and lived it 7th – 12th grade 1964. So here we are in 2025 and macro student performance is in a nosedive. And what do these education unions say? Let’s not measure the nosedive. Let’s get distracted with all these new collateral issues. What’s the reply? Your solution is a cut and paste of the Texas 2step from the Best Little Whorehouse in Texas. Now Mush!

  9. Admiral Rickover, father of our nuclear submarines, once described American education as so poor that if forced on us by a foreign power it would be an act of war.

    It has only gotten worse since his decades-long ago pronouncement. And the decline is accelerating.

    Harvard has a remedial math course for the newly admitted. Professors are complaining that attention spans are short and students are unable to read entire books. They are unable to write cogently on any subject. At a public school near me handouts are used instead of books. High school graduates are unable to identify Washington, DC. They are unable to place the Civil War in the right century and know very little about either world war in the Twentieth Century.

    Reading, Writing, Arithmetic–public schools are failing all. Also failing history, civics, and science.

    They hand out lots of ‘A’s though to keep the parents comatose.

      1. Yes. Experiment with alternatives. Education needs to get away from the current industry and grifting.

        I would not be surprised if people like Musk and Bezos established schools for their employees and for the children of their employees. Probably they already have merit based programs for tuning up the skills of some of their employees. That benefits the employees and the business.

        Makes me wonder what Musk might have in mind for schools on Mars once it is established as an independent alternative to Earth. Nothing like US public schools I suspect.

  10. OT:

    In MN, home of Gov Tim Walz, a STATE EMPLOYEE was found to have done $20,000 damages to multiple Tesla cars and what did the DA do? Put the STATE EMPLOYEE in to a diversion program without any criminal charges being filed. The police, who did the leg work to find the culprit are not happy. The DA’s own guidelines state that diversionary programs are for crimes of less than $5,000, but the STATE EMPLOYEE did $20,000 worth of damage. This is why crime, especially left wing crime in blue states remains a problem.

    Now imagine if a man was found to be praying at the front door of an abortion clinic, does anyone think that the diversionary program would be used?

    The double standard, the hypocrisy and the outright criminality of the left needs to be addressed.

    I like Pam Bondi and Kash Patel but I would really like to see some Democrats and leftists be charged and perp walked on live tv like Roger Stone. Charge Letitia James already. Go after Schiff for his crimes. Go after any Democrat that has committed crimes that Republicans would have been charged for. Do it already.

    1. File suite in civil court for damages, time wasted and anything else you can find and attorney’s fees.

  11. Parents should be a partner with his or her child’s teacher and each have their own role in a child’s life. A parent is responsible for instilling morals in their child’s life. One is not born with morals. They must be taught and practiced.
    If there is a disagreement between a parent’s and a teacher’s view on relationships and sexuality, the parent gets the final say. If the parent is harming the child, then that can be resolved with the involvement of law enforcement. Schools should never tell children to keep things from their parents. That is what groomers do. It’s bad enough that revisionist history has taken hold of many history classes. When I was in jr. high, my parents had to sign a permission slip to be taught human sexuality in health class. Now teachers are taking it upon themselves to assign new names and pronouns to confused kids and not documenting it so parents cannot find out. It has to change.

  12. Dear Mr. Turley, I really appreciate GEB mentioning Illinois. I grew up there and attended the public school system in Rockford, Illinois. From kindergarten on up I can recall only three teachers who were kind and took time with their students. This includes the kindergarten
    teacher. In 6th grade the indoctrination began starting with “zero population growth”. Pretty soon we were lectured on how we were ruining the earth, ect. I am so thankful that this current group of parents has the courage to take on the school system as this liberal indoctrination now begins in pre-kindergarten.

    1. Pray the justices decide in favor of the parents. While disordered sexual behaviors may be “legal,” they shouldn’t be presented to children as normal or desirable.

  13. ” as parents object to the use of public schools to advance social and political agendas.”

    Well, there you have it, in a nutshell.
    Thank you, Professor Turley!

  14. Children pose an exception to JT’s expansive notions of free speech. In his book, he ignores the right of parents to exert control over what their children are exposed to, as if the public square is some venue where children are never included or present.

    I’ve long suspected that Turley (being a parent) supports parents’ powers of censorship over bad influences, but that he preferred to not wade into that topic because it would be an admission that there are some common sense limitations on free speech.

    Montgomery County is arguing in this case for its free speech rights to have unfettered access to the impressionable mindspace of children. Do you get a sense that JT would argue strenuously for parental rights to exercise a veto over content some social justice activists want to push on their children? The way the article is framed, JT is standing back as an observer, without taking up a position either way as a leading free speech lawyer.

    1. “Montgomery County is arguing in this case for its free speech rights…

      Uh, no –

      the County says that there is no burden on the exercise of religion, that it included “only a few storybooks” , that it would be a “burden” on the county to keep track of opt-outs (they previously had opt-outs), and that the “few” storybooks were included to “to better represent all Montgomery County families;”

      and — the “handful” of storybooks are not being used for sex education!!!!!!!!!!!

      Prof. Turley has included a link to a SCOTUS blog, where you can access the various briefs filed in the case

      1. The blind guy on star trek was an officer. Personally , in the next life the trans men can be women. Is it nation specific? Probably not. Reborn in Afghanistan as a woman. ROFL

    2. You are trying to equate “free speech” with “you must teach.” The two things are nothing alike.

      The pre-school & elementary curriculum Elmer describes above, quoting from plaintiffs’ brief, strikes me as 1) developmentally inappropriate; 2) mind-controlling, like a mandated profession of faith; and 3) a huge, power-grabbing boundary violation (not staying in a school’s lane but instead big-footing into a parent’s lane. Turley’s “Red Flag Girl” allusion in an earlier essay is so apt. Dear Leader Randi Weingarten & co. have wanted in on family life for years, even as they no-show when it comes to imparting basic skills in their proper domain: the classroom. They want to extend the arena in which they can eff everything up.)

      Lessons about diversity happen organically when students encounter classmates’ two moms or two dads as volunteers in classrooms, on field trips, at the book fair, or at the invention convention. My kids benefited a lot from such families’ volunteerism in elementary school, and benefited from seeing parents of many stripes show up together — together –with the cupcakes.

  15. Next thing you know, they’ll have stump training in high schools. If a degenerate can twerk in front of six-year-olds and call it trans rights, anything goes.

  16. I can understand why the AFT and Randi Weingarten want the status quo but of course they forgot or did not care that they were also supposed to educate the student. I suppose it is easier to command uneducated morons with your cultural carpetbag of progressivism, marxism, transgenderism, and racial victimhood. If the victim of this teaching understands nothing else then you have them for life or until they are no longer useful and you just throw them away. Harvard is a good example of where this all leads. At least in the short term.
    Strange is it not that Illinois is presently trying to enact a law that will kneecap home or other alternative schooling. Can’t let those little children get away from the cultural wasteland of a fading state.

  17. And this is why school vouchers and getting your kids out of gov’t run schools is imperative. . .

    1. Agreed. The only way to stop “Teachers and boards – killing the institution of public education by treating children and parents more like captives than consumers,” is to have Universal School Choice. Then any parent who objects to what their child is being taught won’t have to seek redress at the Supreme Court, they will simply choose a different school.

  18. We don’t see teachers complaining. We don’t see the school boards complaining and redirecting curricula to proper subjects. Certainly, we don’t see the teacher unions complaining. We do see student test scores plummeting in the three R’s. We do see drag queen story times for little ones. We do see LGBT+ books in school libraries. We do see teachers encouraging sexual transformations. It seems that only the parents remain to protect their children, remarkably against those agencies charged with doing exactly that.

    Geez, it’s not even communist or socialist; it’s clearly not conservative. It’s not poor, middle or even upper class. Who’s behind this?

    1. In my opinion the uproar over this new attack was the Gay Marriage Lobby efforts that after they were successful, they decided to then go forward with this next level of sexual “equality”.

    2. You don’t see the teachers complaining, perhaps, but there are those who do their best to protect the children in their classrooms by not introducing such garbage in their book nooks or lessons.

  19. I find it fearfully astounding that the “state”, any government entity in fact, think that they have been given the power to override the rights of the parents of any child.

    What to read, how to speak, whether to mutilate their bidies…Just what type of monsters have we allowed our various forms of government/bureaucracies to become that they believe they have supremacy over family in the eyes of our nation.

    1. I have had bad encounters with entitled parents who have treated me more tyrannically than the government ever has.

      1. The parents, about whom you speak are a perfect iĺustration of the gestapo mentality that has overtaken our original culture.

        This nation/culture/ society has become rudderless because multiculturalism cannot abide a “rudder” that steers people in a pre-determined direction based upon an agreed upon set of core values.

        The simple fact is that the ultimate goal of progressivism is to undo any pre-existing core set of values so that the undirected mass can be directed as is want by them.

        You cannot overcome a strong, homogeneous culture, you must first divide it – exactly as ( I regret using the same old example, but…) the nazis divided their world into those who count and those who must be named as the reason for anything that is bad -Jews, gypsies, the mentally ill or lame.

        Easy psychology 101 to see what is happening here and we have a nation, at this point, with 40-49% of the population already “nazi-like” sympathizers.

  20. Issues like the force-feeding of a LGB+ lifestyles make it clear .. This MD county and so many others provide government schools – not “public schools.”

    1. Yes they are, if you are of a mind to equate “the state” as interchangeable with the public.

      In the eyes of a progressive ideology, the state us the public, there are no individuals, just clones of the “perfected man”.

      The original tenets of our founding fathers, who believed in the individual, have been rejected by a false ideology that truly believes that mere mortals can perfect citizens through government programming.

      Until conservatives publicly reject this ideology in a full-throated debate that illustrates this ideology as anathema to our constitution, we will slowly lose to them.

      We have allowed these progressives to control most avenues of culture for so long that we are, figuratively, with our backs at the edge of a cliff with 40 – 49% of our population pushing us over the edge.

      We think this victory of Trump’s will end this but we are mistaken. 3+ years will not undo a century of oh so subtle indoctrination and one of their biggest advantages is their purposeful dumbing down of the populace.

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