This week, Darializa Avila Chevalier was asked if there has ever been a “successful model of socialism anywhere in the world outside the United States in terms of both human rights and widespread economic justice.” The member of the Democratic Socialists of America responded by citing Sweden and Norway. It is a common false claim made by socialist Sen. Bernie Sanders and others. I address the claim head-on in Rage and the Republic.
DSA figures have been claiming that the socialist measures that they are pushing are proven successes in other countries. They often raise the Scandinavian myth. Here is an excerpt from Rage and the Republic:
‘Leaders such as Senator Bernie Sanders have heralded the alleged success of “democratic socialism” in Europe, a pitch that is obviously taking hold with many younger Americans. Sanders and others often refer to the prosperity of Scandinavian socialism, including Sweden and Norway. It is a dangerous myth that is promulgated by many in the media. The question is not whether Scandinavian socialism can work in the United States (it cannot) but whether Scandinavian socialism can work in Scandinavia. Sweden is a particularly curious choice as a model for democratic socialism. In reality, Sweden shows not only the success of capitalism but also the limits of socialism even in a relatively small nation. Sweden turned away from the type of socialist theories increasingly in vogue in the United States.
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The Scandinavian countries also differ from the United States in other key ways. For example, Norway has largely sustained large public welfare systems through oil revenues. The country imposes a corporate income tax rate of 78 percent on extractive activities to fund its public welfare programs…
Countries like Denmark and Sweden are strong adherents to capitalist principles and are listed among the most capitalist nations on Earth. Indeed, leaders often express surprise by American references to their socialist principles. In 2015, the Danish Prime Minister Lars Rasmussen observed, “I know that some people in the U.S. associate the Nordic model with some sort of socialism. Therefore, I would like to make one thing clear. Denmark is far from a socialist planned economy. Denmark is a market economy.” Likewise, Social Democratic Minister of Finance Kjell‐Olof Feldt stated “That whole thing with democratic socialism was absolutely impossible. It just didn’t work.”
As I discuss, these countries are not only committed to capitalism but also ranked among the most free-market economies in the world. These countries are also very different from the United States:
“When socialism was tried in larger nations in Europe, such as France under François Mitterrand, it failed, and capitalist measures had to be restored. In 2025, the populations of Denmark, Sweden, and Norway are approximately 5.9 million, 10.6 million, and 5.6 million—smaller than many American states.”
The DSA and the American left, including many in the media, continue to sell the public a bill of goods on the success of Scandinavian socialism. Ironically, it is the type of disinformation that the left often cites to justify greater censorship. Despite denials from these very countries, socialists in the United States continue to spread this false claim that there is a socialist paradise over the ocean where collectivists labor in picturesque Nordic fishing villages.
The promulgation of such myths is a central feature of Marxism. Lenin stressed that “we must not confine ourselves exclusively to propaganda in the narrow sense of the word.” Stalin likewise warned that “If our Party propaganda for some reason or other goes lame…then our entire state and Party work must inevitably languish.”
The fact is that socialism has repeatedly failed throughout history. The only way to get a people to embrace it is to rewrite that history. That is precisely what we see not only in the United States, but in the recent claims of incoming British Prime Minister Andy Burnham, who condemned the privatization policies of Margaret Thatcher: “The country surrendered control of the essentials — housing, water, energy, transport — and left people exposed to higher costs.” What he does not mention is that she followed the collapse of socialist policies under Labour Prime Minister James Callaghan in 1977–78 during the so-called “winter of discontent,” which I also discuss in the book.
Chevalier is a true believer who has praised Marxism and the concept of “seizing the means of production.” She won her primary despite comments bragging about her using the American flag to wipe her hands and criticizing the dating of white women as Black and Arab men “Fetishizing ugly colonizer women.”
Given that history, the adoption of the Scandinavian socialism myth is par for the course. Like Zohran Mamdani, she is rallying young, disillusioned, college-educated voters who are told that their struggles stem from the failures of the free market. Instead, they are offered free stuff and the illusion of an economic nirvana where lattes and Pilates are virtually costless.
Indeed, the Scandinavian socialism myth is so enticing that I expect Scandinavians must wonder where they can also find it.
Jonathan Turley is a law professor and the New York Times best-selling author of “Rage and the Republic: The Unfinished Story of the American Revolution.”
Why doesn’t this surprise me? In fact, it does. You have to know. Have to, but you are not discussing it.
World War 3 has begun. THIS IS THE NEWS. THIS IS THE STORY. IT IS HERE.
Battle lines being drawn. Nobody’s right, if everybody’s wrong. Iran is using Russian/Chinese satellite guidance technology to aim and direct sophisticated drones against us. Clinton sold classified satellite technology to China.
The world is at war and the U.S. is in the midst of it.
I remember the lessons on Capitalism versus Socialism in junior/senior high school, with one great teacher equating it to grades.
If you work your tail off to get As, you get a feeling of accomplishment.
We all knew the ones who were irresponsible and partied instead of studying, or who just weren’t very smart, perhaps from a brain deficiency.
The teacher asked how we would feel if he decided to give everybody a C, no matter how hard you worked, because the A students were making the D/F students feel bad.
You could see the light go on for a few of those who had never really understood the economics of Capitalism versus Socialism.
These days I just ask “How much other people’s money do you feel is your ‘fair share’?”
Normal, decent people who were raised well would always say “None.”
It’s fun to see the lights go on, and it’s reassuring to know you have ensured Capitalism will always prevail in America.
I must say that I have been reading this blog from time to time pretty much since its inception and today’s, especially including the comments section, has been exceedingly enlightening. Yes, there were the usual ad hominems and gratuitous insults and the occasional incomprehensible gibberish, but really, I learned that many of the posters here, including some that I regularly disagree with, have useful, and even admirable, insights and information. Thank you all. At least most of you.
I asked a prisoner during my most recent Catholic prison ministry visit how he saw God’s Hand in his daily incarcerated life of >20 years. His answer took me aback: “You came today to prison just to visit us. That is God’s Hand at work.” The prisoner lives on an hour by hour regiment, one day at a time., much like the Serenity Prayer teaches.
The prison I visit is an old structure in the middle of an agricultural field. There is no air conditioner so the recent visit was blazing hot with multiple large fans standing atop 7′ tall poles, windows open, and everyone is uncomfortable. Even if it was hot, uncomfortable and they were sweating in their prison uniforms, they gathered in the program room to spend time with me. I went to give them hope, treat them with dignity, model good behavior, and encourage them to break with the toxic thinking patterns that led them to a life of violent crime, so that they can be freed from the passions that enslave them.
It doesnt take much to raise people up today since most are very lonely, as Josh Groban tells us. You just have to make time for others and stop being so self-absorbed or wallowing in self-pity. You likely will receive more than your target audience.
Estovir — Good for you!
Thanks for that.