“So, the Pope doesn’t take sides. Prevost has another opinion, but we won’t do that now.”
That funny quip from Pope Leo XIV (born Robert Prevost) referred to the historic game in Rome when the Villanova and Notre Dame basketball teams play each other.
However, a story this week raised a different question of when the Pope, as opposed to Prevost, can “take sides.”
This month, American-born Pope Leo XIV became the first pope ever to vote in a U.S. election.
A longtime Chicago native, the Pope mailed an absentee ballot to Will County, and the clerk’s office confirmed to Fox News Digital that “Robert Prevost is on the list of individuals who requested a Vote by Mail ballot.” There is no question that the Pope can vote in the Holy See. Indeed, he is the ultimate and final vote in the Vatican, but can he actually vote in Illinois races (including the governor’s race involving incumbent Democrat J.B. Pritzker)? The answer appears to be yes, but it raises some novel questions.
Now, as a threshold matter, I want to shed some bias. I was raised Catholic in Chicago. No, that is not the bias. There is that lingering conflict with the Pope coming out as a White Sox fan. Many of us on the North Side hoped for a conversion to restore our faith in papal infallibility. However, he has remained entrenched in his South Side allegiance.
This column rises above that historic rivalry and does not suggest that White Sox fans can be challenged at the polls. (Besides, I previously explained that the Pope is a Cubs fan without knowing it.)
Rather, what surprised me was that the head of a foreign state could vote in U.S. elections. The Vatican is a distinct nation with a diplomatic corps, a court system, a local government, and even a military in the form of the legendary Swiss Guards.
The Holy See Press Office declared, “Pope Leo XIV has exercised his right to vote as a United States citizen whenever he was eligible to do so. The Holy See Press Office confirms that, in keeping with this long-standing practice of civic participation, he has submitted his mail-in ballot in Chicago.”
The Holy See maintains that Pope Leo retains his status as a U.S. citizen while serving as the head of a foreign nation. There is support for this position.
The State Department has maintained that dual citizens do not have to choose between their countries, though it does not expect them to serve as the head of another country.
“U.S. dual nationals owe allegiance to both the United States and the foreign country (or countries, if they are nationals of more than one). They are required to obey the laws of both countries, and either country has the right to enforce its laws. Claims of other countries upon U.S. dual-nationals may result in conflicting obligations under the laws of each country. U.S. dual nationals may also face restrictions in the U.S. consular protections available to U.S. nationals abroad, particularly in the country of their other nationality.”
Notably, the State Department requires dual citizens to use a U.S. passport to enter the country. Does that mean that, when traveling as head of state, Pope Leo has to use a U.S. passport? Unlikely, but intriguing.
It strikes me as odd that a person can lead another country and still vote in U.S. elections. With all of those worried about Russian interference in elections, imagine if Putin could actually vote in U.S. elections. Obviously, Pope Leo is greatly loved and represents someone whose values are aligned with this country. Yet, he is also the head of state of a foreign nation.
Under the Uniformed and Overseas Citizens Absentee Voting Act (UOCAVA), military personnel and citizens abroad are allowed to vote in U.S. elections. It is no longer considered an absentee vote requiring an excuse but simply a mail-in ballot.
The question is whether this right should be suspended when you assume a position in a foreign nation, let alone the head of such a nation. Dual citizenship has long been debated over the difficult questions raised by nations with opposing values and interests. However, being the head of a foreign government with potentially opposing interests and actions to the United States creates a curious status.
It turns out that when Gov. Pritzker met with the Pope last year, he was actually meeting with a constituent and voter.
I am most surprised that the Vatican does not have a policy against such voting, though this is admittedly unprecedented. I would think that the head of the Catholic faith and the head of a foreign government would have a single national citizenship for the Holy See. All popes are selected from the global faithful by the College of Cardinals and thus have national citizenship with other countries.
In assuming their positions, the cardinals “pledge and swear, as individuals and as a group, to observe faithfully and scrupulously the prescriptions contained in the Apostolic Constitution.” They also reaffirm that they are not subject to countervailing allegiances or pressures from outside of the College: “And never to lend support or favour to any interference, opposition or any other form of intervention, whereby secular authorities of whatever order and degree or any group of people or individuals might wish to intervene in the election of the Roman Pontiff.”
However, it is fascinating that, once elected, Popes do not shed that status upon assuming the head of the Holy See.
It is an uncomfortable question since it also raises whether the head of a foreign government should have dual citizenship. Most people were legitimately thrilled (including myself) by the first American Pope and can view this as an unlikely “one-off.” However, it could just as easily happen with another nation and a dual citizen.
At the risk of my own excommunication, it seems a worthy question for discussion, even though I doubt any politicians would relish such a debate. For his part, Pope Leo stated before the Villanova-Notre Dame game that the Pope will not take sides in the U.S. elections, but Robert Prevost will.
Jonathan Turley is a law professor and the New York Times best-selling author of “Rage and the Republic: The Unfinished Story of the American Revolution.”
The column appeared on Fox.com
Much ado about nothing. It’s come up before – Eamon de Vaelera (president of Ireland), Golda Meir (prime minister of Israel), and Toomas Hendrik Ilves (president of Estonian).
Which of them pretended to be an American citizen after emigrating and taking the citizenship of a foreign country?
“Should the Pope Be Able to Vote in United States Elections?”
Only if he votes Republican.
Turley supports an unprincipled pig as president. No credibility.
Prove it.
It is self-evident to anyone with eyes.
Yeah, how can anyone support a president that rapes his step-daughter in the shower, as chronicled in her diary. Oh wait, that was the last guy.
Even Secret Service gals couldn’t put that gun in a holster.
From Chicago and Illinois… come on, the issue is how many votes was he able to make… and how many ballots were sent to his home address (given he no longer lives there) for the democrat machine to process
Did anyone verify that the mail-in ballot is really from the Pope?
It is. I filled it out. Voted for the Republican ticket.
@Anonymous
You have no way of knowing that. Buzz off, troll.
Catholicism is a perversion of Biblical Christianity and the Pope an Anti Christ.
Sure pal. Now take that pistol and put it to your head. Fire.
“I am most surprised that the Vatican does not have a policy against such voting, though this is admittedly unprecedented.”
To clarify, it is not unprecedented that he could vote, but that he did vote. I found this on Grok: “While he remained a citizen, there is no evidence that Pope Francis ever voted in Argentine elections after becoming pope. Historically, popes have refrained from voting in secular elections in their home countries to maintain geopolitical neutrality…”
If Vatican City were a real country, it would be a more serious matter. How come nobody needs to show their passport when stepping from Rome into VC? How come there isn’t a visa needed? What is their currency? I don’t recognize VC as a country. It’s a religious campus in Italy. San Marino is more important.
That a territory has formal sovereignty does not require them to adopt the border control methods you prefer.
No, and neither should any “dual citizen.” If you have no allegiance, how can you possibly help decide your leadership. Not just the Pope. We traveled to Quebec and our guide who has lived there for 10 years, is a dual citizen and plans to vote in MN. Pick a side.
In this country, dual citizenship was invented by judges, like many legal pathologies.
This is the first pope I have ever disliked. His fake humility and meddling into politics precisely reveal his egotistical objective of being a bigger and more important person than he really is.
So he can and should vote as an American, but since you don’t like his politics, he’s dislikable? Guess Love Thy Neighbor has no meaning to you Catholics huh?
I recommend you become a Protestant (with its heritage of “liberty of conscience”–including freedom of speech which you champion) and give up your Papist ways.
The law is the law. In fact, both laws are the law. It is fitting and proper for an American citizen to vote in American elections. I do see a residency conflict, since the Pope has a permanent official address now in the Vatican. That suggests that he can no longer vote in local or state elections. While he should be able to vote for presedent and vice president, it seems improper, even illegal, for him to vote for a governer, mayor, or even dog catcher. Also, I hope that he maintains silence about who he voted for. While he has the right and duty to vote, since the ballot is a secret ballot, hopefully he won’t say anything about his personal selections, at least before the vote is certified.
The larger question — lurking between the cryptic and poorly-reasoned lines of the SCOTUS majority decision in Trump v. Barbara — is whether a dual U.S. / foreign citizen, apart from his/her voting rights here, can serve as president or vice-president as a “natural born Citizen.”
This issue will become more relevant now as the rumored 2028 Oval Office flirtations of Word Salad Queen Kamala Harris continue to simmer.
At bottom, the issue presented is not whether it is OK for a foreign head of state dual citizen to vote here, but instead whether the person, under the goofy reasoning of the Barbara decision, would be eligible to the U.S. presidency. While the Democrats and the DSA might try peddling the gambit, the Founders would disallow the effort in a New York nanosecond™.
There were only 4 votes for birthright citizenship being based on a Constitutional right. Kavanaugh withheld his vote from that finding, and wrote that birthright citizenship is defined by Congressional statute in Title 8 Section 1401(a), implying that narrowing eligibility is within the powers granted to Congress in Article I.
Justice Alito, paragraph 1 in dissent.
Congress should pass a law forbidding officials of any foreign nation from voting in US elections, whether or not they are dual citizens.
No one should have dual citizenship in the USA.
I was born in the USA to a US citizen father (WWII veteran) married to my Aussie mom who was awaiting completion of her 5 year US residency to become a Citizen. I am a dual US-Aussie citizen, meaning I can travel and work whenever in Australia. I don’t vote in Aussie elections. My loyalty is to the United States primarily, and secondarily to the Western Alliance standing up to totalitarian dictatorships. My allegiance has to fall in that direction because the US is only 4% of the global population, and our global alliances of NATO, SEATO, AUKUS, USMCA, 5 EYES are crucial to maintaining our nation’s freedom and prosperity. It’s a misconception that America could go it alone in a world that hates us. The sooner that stupidity dissipates the better.
So what. The post is about the Pope. So you think you’re the Pope?
Dual citizenship only becomes a problem when the 2 nations are adversaries. That said, I think US law should refine the concept of dual citizenship, so that the 2nd non-US citizenship carries inferior allegiance. That way, there is loyalty is clear if the situation tends toward divided loyalties.
The Pope and I are two, but 2 = 1, therefore I am the Pope.
Municipalities in Democrat runs states of CA, MD, and VT allow non citizens to vote in local elections.
Now for Europe: Several European countries allow foreigners to vote in local elections under specific conditions, while national elections generally remain restricted to citizens. Denmark permits all non-nationals to vote in local elections after four years of residence, with exceptions for EU, Icelandic, Norwegian, and British citizens who can vote immediately upon residency. Sweden, Finland, Norway, and Iceland also allow foreign residents to vote in municipal and regional elections through the Nordic Passport Union. Belgium extends voting rights to non-EU foreigners after five years of residence and requires an oath of allegiance, while South Korea allows permanent residents with over three years of stay to vote in local elections.
https://www.thelocal.com/20220218/explained-where-in-europe-can-non-eu-foreigners-vote-in-local-elections
In exercizing his right to vote, the Pope has shown that he is American first and Catholic second, proving that we have a right and duty to protect our borders!
@Valerie
Given his own past statements, I highly doubt that is what he voted for. He is a globalist first, and perhaps only.
I am a big supporter of our global allies, but not the police-state dictatorships who view the US as an enemy. Does that make me a globalist? I’d rather be called an allyist, or a free-world-globalist.
@Anonymous
No, actively simping for a leftist globalist regime that is antithetical to the very notion of a free world does.
Valerie Mierzwa,
We don’t know how Pope Leo voted, but we do know this. The Vatican has a border wall, guarded by armed troops (recently increased in number), no path to citizenship or asylum for illegal immigrants, no right to abortion or gay rights or equal rights for women, and belief in God’s Commandment to honor your father and your mother (not your birthing parent). So, if Pope Leo voted for any Democrat …
Birthing? The language adoption is in incredible.
Deport him! Oh wait, he already is out of the country.
This “allegiance” and “power” issue is not a mere hypothetical. Just after the October 7th massacre in Israel, Pope Francis’ Secretary of State phoned Hamas to comfort them. He told them that the Holy See recognizes Hamas as the duly elected representatives of the “legitimate rights” of the Palestinians (as reported on the website of the Holy See).
Surely you have proof of that lie?
Anonymous,
I understand that you do not consider the website of the Holy See to be “proof”, but I do. I read it myself, when it was published in the website section titled “Vatican News”.
Goes to my point, hysterical people like you will believe anything. You can’t understand anything, you’re deluded.
Anonymous,
If I can’t believe what the Holy See says about itself, who should I believe?
Omg, seriously, or am I being gullible, Benisch?
Carpe diem,
When Pope Francis headed the Holy See, I used to read the Vatican News on the Holy See website pretty frequently. Shortly after the October 7th massacre, the Vatican News reported that Vatican Secretary of State Cardinal Parolin phoned Hamas and said Hamas represents the “legitimate” interests of the Palestinians. I was not surprised, given Pope Francis’ political policy statements about America, or given the smiling photo opps of his Private Audiences with various leaders of the “left” including Soros’ son.
Based on your Reply to my Comment, I did an admittedly-hasty google search trying to find the Vatican News article. It appears that the article has been deleted, but maybe a more thorough search would locate it. All I can offer to you is this: (1) I really did read that article on the Holy See website; and (2) the Holy See recognized the State of Palestine, which says it is “from the river to the see”.
I keep trying to remember Pope Saint John Paul II, whose brotherhood with the Jewish People seems to have fallen into disfavor.
I can’t believe he’d want to. How sad, and it’s impossible to believe he isn’t just another globalist stooge.
I find it disappointing that the Pope would vote in any election. I always assumed that a Pope was expected to be above partisan politics. Quite frankly, this lessens my respect for Pope Leo.
Render unto Caesar what belongs to Caesar, and unto God what belongs to God. (Just because you can do something, doesn’t mean you should do it.)
And what exactly belongs to someone’s God?
Caesar is not an American.
So your saying Trump is Caesar?
As a true Chicagoan, I wonder if he will keep voting after he dies?