Ted Cruz, Dominionism and Jesus

Submitted By: Mike Spindell, Guest Blogger

Ted_Cruz,_official_portrait,_113th_CongressAs a Jew who is familiar with “The Gospels” there is something perplexing about some Christians in America who have risen to power in our political process within the last four decades. Much of Jesus message, as detailed in “The Gospels” has been one of sympathy to the poor, enmity to the rich and love for humanity. I can give you the time tested quotes but just about everyone is familiar with them. Indeed through my childhood and formative teen years Christmastime every year would yield endless repetition of “Peace on Earth, Good Will to All Men”. Sometime in the 1970’s people like Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell gained prominence and political power preaching their version of Christianity. These Christians became Kingmakers as it was assumed and actually true that their millions of followers would vote as a bloc. The Christianity that they preached had little to do with the American Christianity that I grew up with. To be sure their teachings on sexuality differed little from Christian thought for the previous 1,700 years and so abortion was evil, virginity was prized and sexuality was to be performed in subscribed methodology. What was different was that this version of Christian belief was a far more muscular and mach one. War was good when fought for American principles of capitalism and self interest. The wealthy needn’t worry about the “eye of the camel.” Poverty was seen as the result of moral failure. Rendering unto Caesar (the Government) was no longer the moral thing to do.

Now knowing history there were always periods where certain Christian leaders were in favor of warfare, favored the wealthy and sought to kill non-believers. Nevertheless, all through those era’s the same message of peace and love was preached as doctrine, whilst the religious leadership ignored the dichotomy of their own works. However, hypocrisies have always existed in every religious belief. The overriding principles always remained static, even if logic had to be twisted to ignore the obvious dichotomy. This is certainly true of the religions Judaism, Christianity and Islam, that each give their own interpretation of the “Torah.” The most glaring example of this is the entire Chapter of Genesis, which is literally riddled with dichotomy. Who did Cain, Abel and Seth marry and where did their brides come from? The standard method of dismissing these dichotomies was to ignore them and censor the questioner. Today though, in certain Christian circles these overarching principles derived from the teachings of Jesus have become ignored, to be replaced by a new “Dominionist” view, which would turn Jesus into a warlike, wealthy Republican that hated government and taxes. That is the subject of this guest blog.Chris Hedges is a well-know investigative journalist, who admittedly has a more dyspeptic view of the world than I do. Yet he is a brilliant person and very often nails a particular topic. This week I read an article by him that I received via OpEdNews http://www.opednews.com a blog I subscribe to. The articles title is: “The Radical Christian Right and the War on Government”. http://www.opednews.com/articles/The-Radical-Christian-Righ-by-Chris-Hedges-Christian-Right_Government-Bullying_Government-Corruption_Right-Wing-Extremists-131007-879.html

Hedges article begins:

“There is a desire felt by tens of millions of Americans, lumped into a diffuse and fractious movement known as the Christian right, to destroy the intellectual and scientific rigor of the Enlightenment, radically diminish the role of government to create a theocratic state based on “biblical law,” and force a recalcitrant world to bend to the will of an imperial and “Christian” America. Its public face is on display in the House of Representatives. This ideology, which is the driving force behind the shutdown of the government, calls for the eradication of social “deviants,” beginning with gay men and lesbians, whose sexual orientation, those in the movement say, is a curse and an illness, contaminating the American family and the country. 

Once these “deviants” are removed, other “deviants,” including Muslims, liberals, feminists, intellectuals, left-wing activists, undocumented workers, poor African-Americans and those dismissed as “nominal Christians” — meaning Christians who do not embrace this peculiar interpretation of the Bible — will also be ruthlessly repressed. The “deviant” government bureaucrats, the “deviant” media, the “deviant” schools and the “deviant” churches, all agents of Satan, will be crushed or radically reformed. The rights of these “deviants” will be annulled. “Christian values” and “family values” will, in the new state, be propagated by all institutions. Education and social welfare will be handed over to the church. Facts and self-criticism will be replaced with relentless indoctrination.”

His description of this movement, called Dominionism, comports with my own view of what has happened to some Christians in America, who have intertwined Jesus with the Republican Party and its current driving force the “Tea Party”, which is a faux movement established by and led by some of the wealthiest families in our country. Hedges goes on to talk about Senator Ted Cruz, who very quickly has been seen as a “White Knight” for this movement and a hopeful Presidential contender:

“U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz — whose father is Rafael Cruz, a rabid right-wing Christian preacher and the director of the Purifying Fire International ministry — and legions of the senator’s wealthy supporters, some of whom orchestrated the shutdown, are rooted in a radical Christian ideology known as Dominionism or Christian Reconstructionism. 

This ideology calls on anointed “Christian” leaders to take over the state and make the goals and laws of the nation “biblical.” It seeks to reduce government to organizing little more than defense, internal security and the protection of property rights. It fuses with the Christian religion the iconography and language of American imperialism and nationalism, along with the cruelest aspects of corporate capitalism. The intellectual and moral hollowness of the ideology, its flagrant distortion and misuse of the Bible, the contradictions that abound within it — its leaders champion small government and a large military, as if the military is not part of government — and its laughable pseudo-science are impervious to reason and fact. And that is why the movement is dangerous.

The cult of masculinity, as in all fascist movements, pervades the ideology of the Christian right. The movement uses religion to sanctify military and heroic “virtues,” glorify blind obedience and order over reason and conscience, and pander to the euphoria of collective emotions. Feminism and homosexuality, believers are told, have rendered the American male physically and spiritually impotent. Jesus, for the Christian right, is a man of action, casting out demons, battling the Antichrist, attacking hypocrites and ultimately slaying nonbelievers.”

Up until reading this I didn’t know much about Ted Cruz, other than he was a right wing Texas Senator, who was pushing the government shut-down tactic, which we see in play today. I did know he was a Harvard graduate and presumably a bright man. Because of that it seemed to me that his positions were the mere political posturing of yet another sociopathic office seeker. The information about Ted Cruz’s father certainly clarifies the picture more because I can now accept that Cruz is a true believer in what he is spouting.

“This cult of masculinity, with its glorification of violence, is appealing to the powerless. It stokes the anger of many Americans, mostly white and economically disadvantaged, and encourages them to lash back at those who, they are told, seek to destroy them. The paranoia about the outside world is fostered by bizarre conspiracy theories, many of which are prominent in the rhetoric of those leading the government shutdown. Believers, especially now, are called to a perpetual state of war with the “secular humanist” state. The march, they believe, is irreversible. Global war, even nuclear war, is the joyful harbinger of the Second Coming. And leading the avenging armies is an angry, violent Messiah who dooms billions of apostates to death.”  

In progressive, moderate and liberal circles the question of why many working class people vote Republican, against their self-interest has risen continually. I think Hedges supplies part of the answer above. We know that far more women than men elected President Obama in both his runs for office. A cult of masculinity has been asserted. A cult that disdains women’s equality, would take control of their bodies, make them subservient to their spouses, refuse them birth control and even take away their right to vote. In our Macho culture, where a male who earns little is scorned; is perpetually afraid of losing his job; yet is nevertheless encouraged to “be a man”; the need to find someone to blame, or something to empower him is overwhelming. In some Churches that preach he is his wife’s boss and those values of macho masculinity are his right/heritage, many men find succor. What has helped with this is the reinforcement of outlets like FOXNews and clever campaigns of propaganda sponsored by billionaires, who are the people actually repressing them.

“Dominionists believe they are engaged in an epic battle against the forces of Satan. They live in a binary world of black and white. They feel they are victims, surrounded by sinister groups bent on their destruction. They have anointed themselves as agents of God who alone know God’s will. They sanctify their rage. This rage lies at the center of the ideology. It leaves them sputtering inanities about Barack Obama, his corporate-sponsored health care reform bill, his alleged mandated suicide counseling or “death panels” for seniors under the bill, his supposed secret alliance with radical Muslims, and “creeping socialism.” They see the government bureaucracy as being controlled by “secular humanists” who want to destroy the family and make war against the purity of their belief system. They seek total cultural and political domination.

All ideological, theological and political debates with the radical Christian right are useless. It cares nothing for rational thought and discussion. Its adherents are using the space within the open society to destroy the open society itself. Our naive attempts to placate a movement bent on our destruction, to prove to it that we too have “values,” only strengthen its supposed legitimacy and increase our own weakness.

Dominionists have to operate, for now, in what they see as the contaminated environment of the secular, liberal state. They work with the rest of us only because they must. Given enough power — and they are working hard to get it — any such cooperation will vanish. They are no different from the vanguard described by Lenin or the Islamic terrorists who shaved off their beards, adopted Western dress and watched pay-for-view pornography in their hotel rooms the night before hijacking a plane for a suicide attack. The elect alone, like the Grand Inquisitor, are sanctioned to know the truth. And in the pursuit of their truth they have no moral constraints.”

Chris Hedges connects many more dots in his article and I urge you to read the rest of it here: http://www.opednews.com/articles/The-Radical-Christian-Righ-by-Chris-Hedges-Christian-Right_Government-Bullying_Government-Corruption_Right-Wing-Extremists-131007-879.html

We have seen some on this blog who either subscribe to Dominionist belief, or who are fellow travelers in the movement to “Christianize” America, by turning it into a theologically driven country. Hedges point that you can’t reason with them resonates with me. Despite any surface pretensions of “Christian Charity” or “Love the sinner, hate the sin” the truth is that in power these true believers would ruthlessly destroy all who didn’t publicly adhere to its beliefs. We see in many the blog posts here what happens when Islamic extremists gain power over Countries whose majority is Muslim. Despite the fact of their seeming acceptance of a pluralistic system, once they attain power, they ruthlessly dispose of any who do not follow their particular form of orthodoxy. The same thing is true of the Dominionist Christian Movement in the United States. They will seem to participate in our Constitutional processes as a tactic to gradually assume power. Once that goal has been achieved then they will not hesitate to enforce their views relentlessly and recklessly.

While Dominionists achieving power this would be a disaster for the United States, it also would most probably mark the end of humanity. The end game for these believers is “Resurrection” and the return of Jesus leading his armies to Armageddon marking the end of the world. In power, with nuclear armaments and a pretend Jesus to lead them, their ascendancy could well mark the end of of humanity.

Submitted By: Mike Spindell, Guest Blogger

171 thoughts on “Ted Cruz, Dominionism and Jesus

  1. Great job Mike. The radical religious right doesn’t worry about the facts. They only worry about what they think the Bible says and how they can make that the law. One could consider these Dominionists to be the American Taliban.

  2. Great commentary,Mike. It confirms what I keep reiterating, which, namely, is that across religion and time, it is always about a group of people trying to use an established system in order to further their personal ideology. It is not Christianity, as Chris Hedges, who is is vocal about dominionism, is a Christian, nor is it Judaism, nor is it Islam.
    Although Ted Cruz’s father believes in the extreme views he spouts, I do not believe Ted himself does. He reminds me of Benjamin Netanyahu, guided by the extremism of his father, hardly a believer himself.
    We have also seen in it in Warith Deen Muhammad, the son of Elijah Muhammad, of the NAtion of Islam, who preached his father’s extremist religious views until denouncing them later.

    I am currently reading Reza Aslan’s new book on Jesus, called Zealot, in which he describes the jewish priesthood class, which seems to be exactly what the dominionists are seeking; power concentrated within an elite class, which itself relies on an elitist reading on the holy book in order to sustain their grasp on society and their profits from the positions they occupy.

    In Egypt, Morsi and his Muslim brotherhood felt justified trying to write a constitution that afforded almost divine anointment to their group and made everyone else a second class citizen. If we head back in time a bit, still in Egypt, the Pharoahs and their ruling classes did the same thing.

    Hitler, in Germany, did the same thing. While he did not use any established religion as his system, the system itself was religious by nature, and was no different from Morsi’s or Pat Robinson’s, other than he could justify actual murder, not believing in the hereafter, while Pat and his ilk do believe in some form of celstial karma.

    Religion is merely a cloak, a tool that people use to justify whatever their cause is, and most causes are simply about power; power gained and power retained.

  3. Mike,
    Good job. We have seen those dogmatic authoritarian types right here on this blog. Disingenuous in the extreme, in the furtherance of a goal. And a sick goal at that. This is almost a new version of something that is a philosophical cross between the Crusades and the pogroms of Robespierre.

  4. Ted Cruz explained in verse:

    Left Behind by Jesus

    Jesus loves the rich, you know
    Ask them, they will tell you so

    Help the poor? Why that’s a crime!
    Best to work them overtime

    Off the books, though, lest they say
    That you owe them extra pay

    Jesus loves those tax cuts, too
    Just for some, though, not for you

    See a poor kid that’s a clerk?
    Send him to Iraq to work

    Jesus loves the army, see?
    Just the place for you and me

    Not the rich, though, they don’t serve
    What a thought! What perfect nerve!

    If you think this life’s a pain
    Wait till Jesus comes again

    Then on Armageddon Day
    He will take the rich away

    Sure, you thought that you’d go, too,
    Not that you’d get one last screw

    Just like your retirement
    That the rich already spent

    Jesus with the winners goes
    Losers, though, just get the hose

    What on earth would make you think
    That your lord’s shit doesn’t stink?

    After all he left you here
    With the rich, so never fear

    They’ll upon your poor life piss
    In the next life and in this

    Jesus loves the rich, so there!
    Don’t complain it isn’t fair

    Jesus said to help themselves
    Then he’d help them stock their shelves
    So they did and he did, too
    What has this to do with you?

    Jesus loves the rich just fine
    Why’d you think he pours their wine?

    Jesus votes Republican
    Ask them: they’ll say “He’s the One!”

    Still a few loose coins around
    That the rich have not yet found

    Gotta go now, never mind
    If you end up left behind

    Michael Murry, “The Misfortune Teller,” Copyright 2006

  5. While I can understand the genesis of the opinion expressed (sorry for the small pun), it is very far from being three-dimensional in nature.

    One needs to set aside for another day a thorough discussion on the complexities of men like Pat Robertson & Jerry Falwell, two very different men with somewhat different messages, and different approaches to their having been called. What Jews looking at the “muscular” Christian Evangelist movement of the 1970’s should consider beyond the simplicities of the blogger’s opinion, is how Falwell, and even Robertson, were powerful instruments in working to drive antisemitism out of the Republican Party.

    Anyone who cares to objectively view the national Republican Party of the 1950’s through today, should recognise that while it’s true the moderate wing of the Party has been torn up (i.e., the Northeast/New England, Pacific N.W.), antisemetism no longer has a comfortable home in the Party. To the extent antisemetism exists today in mainstream American politics, it can be found on the left wing of the Democratic Party (e.g., the CBC). All one need do is look at the occasional vote on support of Israel, or the campaigns of someone like former Rep. Cynthia McKinney in Georgia. The amount of quite public, old fashioned, “Jew-baiting” consistently utilised by the McKinney campaign was shocking.

    The change in what might be viewed as “religious Christians” (mostly Evangelical Protestants) in the South can be seen via examining men like Jimmy Carter and Fritz Hollings. Carter, not a Republican during his active years as a politician, was raised during a time when a very healthy streak of antisemetism was prevalent in, e.g., the Southern Baptist & Methodist churches. You can see the effect on Carter in his sometimes nearly irrational anti-Israel statements and positions. Being critical of Israel does not necessarily mean one harbours feelings of antisemetism. However, when a person becomes so far beyond reason in their criticisms, it’s a, “if it walks/talks like a duck” situation. If one goes back and reads what Carter said in 1976, and especially before he rose in national politics, there is an obvious conclusion. With regard to Jews & Israel, Carter is the same person he was in 1976. Or 1966, or 1956, and so on.

    The former Sen. Hollings is a similar example. Born in the 1920’s & raised in a religious (in his case, Lutheran) atmosphere that no longer exists because of people like Rev. Falwell, Hollings was anti-Israel and antisemitic to the very end of his career in the Senate. Remember, “the Senator from B’nai B’rith”? How about reference to the “Jew vote”? This “moderate” made the last remark, in writing, in 2004. (Call him old, senile? Not true, but OK. The remark to Metzenbaum was in 1981. While speaking in Senate proceedings!).

    For someone of the Jewish faith, a comparison between the “moderate” Democrat Hollings, and his successor, the despised by the Left, ultra-conservative, Tea Party hero, Senator Jim DeMint, would be instructive. DeMint is a strong supporter of Israel, having co-sponsored resolutions that Hollings would have actively opposed. DeMint has received support from AIPAC, whereas Hollings was the type of guy who would have personally redacted all that stuff about Saudi Arabia in the 9/11 Report. Both men are who they are based upon, amongst other factors, their religious faiths. The changes wrought by Falwell in the 1970’s & beyond to Evangelical Protestantism in the South resulted in practicing Christians like DeMint. Deeply religious, but pro-Israel folks with no interest in purveyors of antisemitism.

    The fact Carter & Hollings were Dems is irrelevant. They likely would be Republicans if coming up today, and regardless, the point is the change in the religious faiths in which they were raised. The Southern Evangelical Protestant churches are no longer friendly, or at least certainly willing to look the other way, on antisemitism. And, I speak from the direct experience of being up close, watching. The pro-Israel stance of white Evangelical Protestant denominations in the South (plus Oklahoma) may be annoying to liberal Jewish politicos, but it is sincere.

    I can’t speak to the Catholic Church, other than to say it has never exercised close to the political power in the South of Protestant denominations; and my impression is the reforms initiated by Pope John XXIII, plus the fact American Catholics are (thank The Lord!) anywhere from ambivalent to hostile regarding most dogma imposed by the Vatican. Therefore, once the favoured teachings of the Catholic hierarchy about “Christ-killers” stopped, most Catholics of European descent (Italian, Polish, Irish, etc.) seemed pretty quick to drop old habits. (I am less certain, in that I just don’t know, about Catholics of Latin and non-Euopean Hispanic descent).

    If you’re Jewish and Liberal and want to go after Falwell’s politics due to being a Lib, go ahead. But if you’re Jewish and want to take shots at the Rev. Falwell’s role in American Evangelical Protestantism just because you’re a Jew, you are sorely misguided. (Plus, Falwell made some of the great pro-canine speeches ever!)

  6. warspite

    dominionist republicans want to use judaism. once the new temple is built where the dome of the rock is, then prophesy is fulfilled.

  7. There is a brand of Christianity which I call the Sears Roebuck Bible Thumpers. To the unenlightened, there is a version of the Bible which is different than the King James version. Sears Roebuck invented one version and folks quote it to me when I admonish someone for violating the Sixth Commandment when they advocate the killing of another human being under the subterfuge of the terms “death penalty”, “execution”. The schmuck will say: You haven’t read your Bible. When pressed, they will produce their version and sure enough, Sears Roebuck.

    Ted Cruz is a Sears Roebuck Xtian.

  8. We should pull out of the middle east entirely and let them all kill each other if they so choose. To hell with Israel as well. Let them fight their own battles instead of using us or advancing themselves with technology and information that they stole from us via spying anyways.

  9. Mike S,

    Great subject.

    You indicated:

    Today though, in certain Christian circles these overarching principles derived from the teachings of Jesus have become ignored, to be replaced by a new “Dominionist” view, which would turn Jesus into a warlike, wealthy Republican that hated government and taxes. That is the subject of this guest blog.

    “… the driving force behind the shutdown of the government …”[quoting Hedges]

    I have heard the phrase “the shutdown of government” all week even as the government keeps on truckin’:

    The mail is being delivered.

    The Supreme Court and other courts are handling litigation.

    The White House is open.

    The Congress is running around yapping on Capitol Hill and members are getting paid the-usual-too-much for it.

    The Cabinet Heads of the various Administrative Departments are on the job.

    Federal agencies are at work.

    The military NSA is busy spying on all Americans, the lights are on at the Treasury, FBI, CIA, FAA, NRLB, IRS, EPA, NASA, and the Pentagon –just like Motel 6 (“We’ll leave the light on for you”).

    But “the government” has been shutdown it has been said in the McTell News.

    One wonders whether or not any of the McTell News crew took Civics 101, where the meaning of “the government” is taught.

    The propaganda going on reminds me of something Reagan thought about the size of government:

    Reagan rhetoric exclaiming that government should be small enough to drown in a bathtub was a psychopathic notion being repeated by an Alzheimer sufferer (Reagan mentored G. Norquist: “ATR was founded in 1985 by Grover Norquist at the request of President Reagan”). Reagan repeated a lot of things fanatics ignorantly said.

    (On The Size of “Government” – 2). Norquist infamously said: “I’m not in favor of abolishing the government. I just want to shrink it down to the size where we can drown it in the bathtub.”

    (What is a “Government” and What is a “Shutdown”?). The cacophony in our public discourse is astounding.

    The “government” now that it is “shut down” is to be put into a bathtub and drowned in a cleansing exorcism.

    Nuts.

  10. Jesus knew about these Dominionist types and gave them the scariest verses in their Bible: “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’ Matthew 7:21-23 NIV

  11. My first introduction to dominionism was at a veterinarian’s office in Fort Worth, Tx. I had taken a sick cat in and the vet said I could make whatever choice I wanted concerning the animal because “man has dominion over the animals”. He made me so uncomfortable I never went back to that office. Since that time dominionism has become very wide spread among the voters in Texas and those that they chose to represent them. The dominionist tea partyers have become the strongest political force in the state. The problem for Cruz like his fellow dominionist Rick Perry is that they don’t play well on the national level. I voted for Cruz’s opponent in the republican primary because although he was a conservative republican he was not a dominionist.

  12. Way back in Isaiah 58:6 when God spoke of folks loosing the chains of injustice and the yoke of the oppression, He was addressing the religious and wealthy of the day while accusing them of doing the exact opposite. There is nothing new under the sun

  13. Good vs Evil… Good vs Bad… God vs Satan… With us vs Against us.

    It is far easier to rail against bad, than to practice good. Obviously a person that stands on a soapbox and condemns bad MUST be a good person. A Bad person that displays (some) good qualities is still Bad. ” I know and detest Bad, …therefore I am good”.
    A good God fearing dominionist is good. These GodDoms declare it loud, so it must be true, ….just ask em.

    And if you disagree with them, obviously you are bad. .

  14. AY, I’m getting to the point where I don’t give a damn for a religion that can’t get man to act as good as a dog

  15. SWM, You touched on an important point. To conflate all libertarians w/ this dominionism is simply intellectually dishonest, at best. And, you duopoly folk sure can come up w/ the labels. This is the first time I’ve heard the term dominionism. And, spell check doesn’t recognize it. Is their a “duopoly dictionary” akin to urban dictionary? I doubt it’s as humorous as urban dictionary.

  16. nick, You live and vacation in all the nice liberal places. ;) No wonder you don’t know much about dominionism. Move to Texas, and I am sure you will find a neighbor who will tell you that you will not be taken up in the rapture.

  17. SWM, LOL! And, I also have vacationed and lived in conservative venues, I go w/ the flow. it’s like being an umpire, you never have a home game! As I write this, I am in a Best Western in Spooner, Wi. This afternoon we’ll drive the rest of the way to my wife’s cousin DOUBLE WIDE! He has to meet us in Danbury, Wi. beccause the unit has no address! This very conservative biker/trucker is a gun shootin’ 4 wheelin’ whiskey drinkin’ man. His mom died earlier this year and we have promised for over 10 years to come up and stay w/ him and his wife. So, this “vacation” is MILES from liberal. Her cousin, w/ all of his idiosyncracies, has a good heart. He has always been very kind to our kids, having none himself. So, you bite the bullet[pun intended], and drive 6 hours to stay in a double wide w/o cell service. That’s what families do. And that is what religion is about, not all this other horseshit. Think of me, please!!!

    Shooting guns is fun. I had not bought ammo forever and had to make 3 stops on the way up to buy some. I have read about shortages but had not experienced it until yesterday. I’m sure you’re well stocked, being a survivalist and all.

  18. nick spinelli 1, October 12, 2013 at 8:53 am

    … dominionism … This is the first time I’ve heard the term dominionism…
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    Dominion Theology or Dominionism is the idea that Christians should work toward either a nation governed by Christians or one governed by a conservative Christian understanding of biblical law.” – Wikipedia

    Aside from the word play, it is dangerous ideology currently encouraged by the military propagandists and dominionist churches:

    No matter how bad things are in Washington, D.C., right now, most people would probably agree that a military takeover of the federal government wouldn’t improve the situation.

    But not televangelist Rick Joyner.

    While on the show “Prophetic Perspective on Current Events” on MorningStar TV on Monday, the notoriously conservative pastor implored God to save America from being wiped out by the nefarious “forces” that are “at work right now to undermine and destroy the republic.”

    “Raise up those who will save us,” Joyner said. “Because the system is so broken… I believe our only hope is military takeover. Martial law.”

    (Huffington Post). Praying to Jesus for a military takeover of America and martial law is one example of dominionist dementia.

  19. Mke S,

    Could you invoke martial law and rescue my comment from the word press congress please.

    Both of your threads I think …

    Have a good day!

  20. “If you’re Jewish and Liberal and want to go after Falwell’s politics due to being a Lib, go ahead. But if you’re Jewish and want to take shots at the Rev. Falwell’s role in American Evangelical Protestantism just because you’re a Jew, you are sorely misguided. (Plus, Falwell made some of the great pro-canine speeches ever!)”

    Warspite,

    I think you misunderstand my blog and frankly I believe that is your failing. Since I was criticizing a part of the Christian religious movement I felt it was incumbent upon me to honestly mention up front that I am Jewish. As part of my introduction I spoke of how a I as a Jew viewed the messages that would come around every year at Christmastime namely “Peace on Earth, Goodwill to All Men” as a counterpoint to current trends among the “Dominionists”.

    What I most take exception to in your comment though is your linkage of being a Jew and the belief that people’s views on Israel alone should influence right thinking Jews. I reject that. At some point if you wish I will discuss with you the issue of liberals and Jews. You see I was alive when Israel came into being and I’m a strong supporter of Israel. However, those who support Israel, so that their personal biblical narrative should be fulfilled via Armageddon, have never impressed me as being good friends to either Israel or Jews. They most fervent wish is that I will be left to die in the fire after the rapture takes all good Christians to Heaven and that doesn’t strike me as friendship.

    However, to turn back to the topic I wrote about, which was Dominionism and Ted Cruz’s involvement with it, what is your feeling about it. That is the real question being discussed here, not Israel. Are you for instance a “Dominionist”, or are you a Jew who supports the movement because Israel is a prime concern to you? In short what is it that you really think about the topic I presented?

  21. “those who support Israel, so that their personal biblical narrative should be fulfilled via Armageddon”

    I live and walk among such people of unclean lips, and they are not BSC Christians. Without Israel, there is no Armageddon, the ultimate triumph of good over evil; ergo, the need for an Israel. It doesn’t go much deeper than that. This goes for great portions of evangelical Christinsanity.

  22. If you want to know what life would be like under Dominionist rule, see Christian Nation by Frederic Rich. It’s a novel that falls into the Orwellian genre and is completely believable.

  23. Oro Lee 1, October 12, 2013 at 10:38 am

    “those who support Israel, so that their personal biblical narrative should be fulfilled via Armageddon

    I live and walk among such people of unclean lips, and they are not BSC Christians. Without Israel, there is no Armageddon, the ultimate triumph of good over evil; ergo, the need for an Israel. It doesn’t go much deeper than that. This goes for great portions of evangelical Christinsanity.
    ==============================
    The notion of “Armageddon” was powerful a century before the current crop of “evangelical Christianity”, and well before “Israel” became a nation circa 1947 by way of a U.N. resolution.

    For example, Winston Churchill’s obsessive belief in “Armageddon” changed world history, and we are still struggleing from the unintended consequences of his belief in “Armageddon”:

    From the moment he arrived at the Admiralty, a young man of destiny, Churchill started to prepare the fleet for the Battle of Armageddon he believed was inevitable.

    Churchill went to the Admiralty and his outlook transformed. He was immediately confronted with the decisive question: to convert the navy from coal to oil … the “fateful plunge” was made … in April 1912 … five oil-burning battleships were approved.

    Britain was well supplied with coal [but not oil]. It was the Royal Navy which was the impetus for the development of the oil industry in Britain. The problem was supply and the security of that supply. Initially, the British government purchased shares in the Anglo-Persian Oil Company, subsequently, British Petroleum [BP].

    Then, to prevent further disruptions, Britain enmeshed itself ever more deeply in the Middle East, working to install new shahs in Iran and carve Iraq out of the collapsing Ottoman Empire.

    Churchill fired the starting gun, but all of the Western powers joined the race to control Middle Eastern oil.

    (The Universal Smedley – 2). As you say, “Armageddon” still plays a mysterious part in dominionist ideology, and may even be a “self-fulfilling prophecy.”

  24. This is an important piece. Thank you again, Mike.

    Luckily, Ted Cruz has the actual charisma of nails on a chalkboard during a root canal. Add the digital age, and someone like Cruz cannot dominate enough media to make even the smallest changes he wants. See: Electoral College. That’s institutional blockage. The rest is what falls out of his mouth, debunked before it plops on the stable floor.

    The charismatic who shows up on every tube, screen, and bill no matter its context is the one we have to worry about. That person is not yet with us, though some believe he is due any second now.

    Ever notice how all the End Times always end with a He? Maybe She would write something without all the tunnel-vision crappy endings…

  25. Not everyone who says to Me. Lord, Lord shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of my Father in heaven. Matthew 7:21

  26. “These people are truly dangerous.” -Chris Hedges

    “Chris Hedges and Robert Scheer Discuss American Fascism”

    Oct 11, 2013

  27. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again:

    When you worship death as the primary aspect of your religious practice, you are creating the ideal situation for a self-fulfilling prophecy. Many if not most evangelical nominally Christian sects are death worshipers fixated upon “Revelations”, a book that was almost not included in the canonical gospels because even those who picked the cannon that was eventually codified into the New Testament knew that “Revelations” was totally contrary to all the other discernible teachings of Jesus.

    Ted Cruz and those like him need to be treated as you’d treat anyone with a death wish and denied any sort of power in civilized society. If a person thinks their best way to “go to Jesus” or “to meet God” is to create a figurative Hell on Earth or – for that matter – anything that involves the killing of others “in the name of” instead of working to uplift those less fortunate? The true teaching of the Nazarene were all about love and compassion what his Father wanted, not death and punishment – that’s Old Testament and God was a spiteful vengeful dick in the Old Testament. If you think any kind of violence is the path to Heaven? No matter if you’re Christian or Muslim or Rastafarian? These people are fundamentally broken and should not be entrusted with power over others of any sort.

  28. The rise of Christian fascism is aided by our complacency. -Chris Hedges

    Chris Hedges ended this week’s column with this:

    “The Christian right needs only a spark to set it ablaze. Another catastrophic act of domestic terrorism, hyperinflation, a series of devastating droughts, floods, hurricanes or massive wildfires or another financial meltdown will be the trigger. Then what is left of our anemic open society will disintegrate. The rise of Christian fascism is aided by our complacency. The longer we fail to openly denounce and defy bankrupt liberalism, the longer we permit corporate power to plunder the nation and destroy the ecosystem, the longer we stand slack-jawed before the open gates of the city waiting meekly for the barbarians, the more we ensure their arrival.”

  29. These phoney Xtians are marginalized nitwits who hold little to no power, except in a few southern states. We have an ever growing domestic Police State and they’re not the driving force behind it. Corporate owned pols are.

  30. A couple of years ago, when the fervor against shariah law was at its highest, I kept repeating that the one we need to worry about is less shariah law than it is dominionism. Shariah law is a wish for the Muslim extremists, while dominionism is a must for Christian extremists.

    It is wrong Nic108 that these guys do not have power. Although Rick Perry’s policies affect Texas first and foremost, they always end up affecting the country as a whole. So are Michelle Bachman’s idiocies and even Ted Cruz, who is apparently the chosen one most likely to give dominionism what it requires to be successful, the White House.

    They may not yet have the power to effectively create policies, but they are disruptive enough and intellectually dishonest enough to create the chaos that will sustain the downfall of this nation; Case in point: the current government shutdown. In the case of dominionism, disruption is a must, for it is a philosophical duty for that ideology to resist forces they deem “corrupt”.
    My fear is that chaos create disorganization, which breads corruption, which affects fairness; and this country’s downfall will most likely happen when the social order collapses because political, social, economical and judicial unfairness has become the norm.

  31. GBs hardly need my support. But damn! They, and some faithful commenters, make this blog valued reading.

    BTW. Andrew Sullivan has been writing about Dominionists for many months. Those who are interested in this sect?/cult?, should try a search over at The Dish. Dominionists are not some silly urban dictionary meme.

  32. I don’t recall hearing the word Dominionism before. I am familiar with what a Theocracy is and dominionism seems cast in much the same light.

    Now either through ignorance or intentionally ignoring the facts most of the founders of the USA were in fact Deists.

    My understanding of a Deists remains that one can not prove or disprove that God or Gods exist so one doesn’t bother with that argument.

    And if I understand the name correctly I guess I’d consider myself a Deists and like most of the founders I do not see any need of any religion in the govt’s duties to the citizens of fixing the roads, bridges and running the Post Office, etc…

    If there were to be a discussion of context of religion and it’s place in regards to the govt I would think we’d have to go back and re-research Prez James Madison’s concepts

    ie; 1st amd: Freedom of/from Religion.

    Some of you may have seen this video below and some of you may wish to send it to Ted Cruz, Alex Jones/infowars, etc…

  33. “Forty great years and one horrible day.”

    I really disappointed with people Chris Hedges, so called leaders, academia and even the citizens.

    It seems to me there has to be an answer to why the are mostly behaving like moron idiots.

    Is it that this industrial society has so polluted them that most are behaving as if they are on Dope or is that they are all suicidal?

    Was it a past Supreme Count Justice that made the statement: “Three generations of imbeciles is enough.”?

    And then the US govt preceded with the forced sterilization of certain citizens and of Native Americans to end their Head Rights.

    Some how the citizens of this age have to remove the current crop of imbeciles running Wallst/City London Banks/Insurance co’s, DC and many other positions of leadership.

    How is it that the people of the world today have the ability through the internet and with all the known knowledge at their finger tips are completely incompetent to loosely organize themselves to protect themselves from very real common threats that exist today?

    Why can they not put down their work for just enough time to take of these many problems?

    The answer it seems to me is the people must be suicidal!

    Here is the proof they are suicidal:

    **Home> International
    US, Vietnam Ink Civil Nuclear Deal
    BANDAR SERI BEGAWAN, Brunei October 10, 2013 (AP)
    By MATTHEW LEE AP Diplomatic Writer
    Associated Press

    The United States and Vietnam are moving to boost cooperation in the energy sector by signing a deal on civilian nuclear power that will allow American firms into the market and commits the Vietnamese to not producing ingredients for atomic weapons.

    U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry and his Vietnamese counterpart inked the so-called “123 agreement” on Thursday at the East Asian Summit in Brunei. Under its terms, Vietnam pledges not to enrich its own uranium and instead acquire what it needs on the international market.

    Once the U.S. energy secretary and Nuclear Regulatory Commission sign off, the deal will go to President Barack Obama for formal consideration. Once he signs it, Congress will have 90 days to review it. If lawmakers do nothing, the deal will take effect. **

    http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/us-vietnam-ink-civil-nuclear-deal-20525917

    More, next post

  34. Cont: “Forty great years and one horrible day.”

    Is it the people of the world really have a death wish?

    Didn’t people see the radiation fallout maps of the Chernobyl disaster in the 80’s?

    Have they not seen the birth defects from there & Iraq from the US’s use of DU?

    Didn’t the people & the govts/USA/Vietnam etc learn any lessons from Agent Orange?

    Sec Kerry of all people making a nuke deal with Vietnam, of all people geez!

    Do the people even have a clue about Fukushima & the rest of the Nuke Kook Industry and the fact that the electric power generated is “To Expensive to Meter!”

    Isn’t Three generations of imbeciles as leaders/citizens enough?

    At this current rate it’s looking likely there will not be a next generation!

    [audio src="http://fairewinds.org/sites/fairewinds.com/files/podcast_october_10_2013.mp3" /]

  35. Oky1,
    Merriam-Webster:
    “Definition of DEISM

    : a movement or system of thought advocating natural religion, emphasizing morality, and in the 18th century denying the interference of the Creator with the laws of the universe”

    Deists do believe in a creator. “Deus” means “god.”

    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/deism

    Thomas Paine extolled the virtues of deism, but may not have called himself a deist. I dunno. I wasn’t there.
    I read The Age of Reason. That’s all I know about the guy.

  36. From the link given immediately above comes this jewel:

    ” Businessweek, hardly a liberal news organization, said the price of default would be “a financial apocalypse” that would cause a worldwide economic depression. This is the sort of thing that affects everyone. Having a right wing ideology doesn’t magically protect your investments from crashing alongside the rest of the stock market.”

    Hmmm

    “apocalypse . . . affects everyone”

    I’ve a revelation. We’ve been thinking about this world depression in the wrong light.

    The existential threat facing humankind is anthropogenic climate change.

    The major obstacle in responding to the threat is also the cause of the threat: a fossil-fuel fed, materialistic hyper-consumer driven global capitalist economy controlled by a few commercial and financial institutions which have transferred vast amounts of the wealth created by the system to the one-percenters who believe either (1) Jesus is going to save them, or (2) they can weather the storm.

    A world-wide depression will certainly slow climate change in the short run and maybe longer if serious damage is inflicted on the economic model. And so what if some one-percenters are still around — their’s will be the wealth with which the other survivors will start something anew.

    Why the hell should we allow our children and grandchildren bear the full brunt of climate change and we who have reaped the greatest benefits from our planetary misfeasance shuffle off relatively unscathed?

    Bring on the Apocalypse. Let’s do this NOW!

  37. @Warspite, your comment really irks me. The last time my Jewish friend met some Southern Evangelicals, they made sure she knew they ‘loved’ Jewish people. That is until she expressed her support for women, including birth control and the right to an abortion. This isn’t about the love for Jewish people, warpsite. Anyone with an average brain like myself knows this is about power and money. The state of Israel is of great geo-political interest to the US and all that flows from that. Throw in some good ole religion and hallelujah, the Jews and the Christians are having a jamboree. I’ve read lots about the dominionists lately and I dont’ like what I see, especially since I am a woman and don’t like to be dominated by anyone, and least of all by a man.
    Your comment reveals something interesting to me however which I’m not sure anyone mentioned: you basically admit that people like Jerry Falwell, can manipulate (in a matter of a few generations )to eradicate (supposedly) a deep-seated hatred of the Jewish people among his faithful followers. Would that he could manage to do so when it comes to non-Christians, atheists, deists, the LGBT community, the Liberals, the ‘other’ Christians.
    I hope this country will reject the ultimate goals of the extreme right-wing Christian men. I don’t want my daughter to be a mother in this kind of ‘biblical’ world.

  38. Ted Cruz is the Anti-Christ!

    Everybody, louder

    TED CRUZ IS THE ANTI-CHRIST!
    TED CRUZ IS THE ANTI-CHRIST!
    TED CRUZ IS THE ANTI-CHRIST!

  39. This must be one of the most irresponsible propaganda pieces I have ever seen you write. Since when do Americans make religion a test for public office?

    Furthermore, you do not even identify Ted Cruz’s religion. You speak about his father being a pastor of a franchise church of Purifying Fire International. Following your link there, what do we find about this ministry? It is not based in Dominionism theology at all, but rather it has the following motto:

    James 1:27:
    “Pure and undefiled religion before God and the Father is this: to visit orphans and widows in their trouble, and to keep oneself unspotted from the world.”

    Rafael Cruz is not even listed there, but what does it matter? That ministry is not based in Dominionism. It was founded by Suzanne Hinn who is more interested in prayer than teaching Dominionism. Nowhere on the site is Dominionism mentioned. Theology isn’t even addressed.

    You give not one single shred of fact linking Ted Cruz to Dominionism, but even if you did, so what! This is America and we do not have religious tests for office. Supposedly we are free to embrace whatever religious beliefs we think are right. The truth about Ted Cruz’s father Rafael Cruz is that he was imprisoned and tortured in Cuba and came to Texas in 1957, penniless and not able to speak a word of English. He washed dishes for 50 cents and hour and worked his way through the University of Texas. Talk about an American success story, why not mention some of this instead of the unsubstantiated anti-religious maelstrom you have created?

    Why not mention Ted Cruz graduating with high honors from Harvard University, or that he is more of a Constitutionalist than President Obama, authoring 80 U.S. Supreme Court briefs and making oral arguments before the SCOTUS 9 times? Why not mention how he taught U.S. Supreme Court Litigation at the University of Texas Law School for 5 years? Why not mention how he was a law clerk for Chief Justice William Rehnquist?

    Instead, you pick the most tenuous links possible to a sermon from Ted Cruz’s father Rafael. Truly amazing. I don’t know whether to be ashamed of what you have just done, or to just walk away in disbelief. This is truly appalling and not up to the standards of this law blog.

  40. Rafael Cruz Declares Son Ted Cruz ‘The Anointed One’
    July 23, 2013 08:00 AM
    http://crooksandliars.com/karoli/rafael-cruz-declares-son-ted-cruz-anointed-

    Excerpt:
    Rafael Cruz has some deep connections to the current movement known as the New Apostolic Reformation. That movement is really a rebranding of what we know as the “Religious Right”, as they were called in the days of Reagan, but with a 21st century dominionist twist. Cruz was a member of the Religious Roundtable in the 1980s, an activist group of Christians who were committed to engagement in politics. He boasts in the interview of serving on the state board of that organization:

    “This was a coalition of Christians and Jews who was very instrumental in helping Reagan get elected. I was on the state board of the Religious Roundtable, so when my son Ted was eight years old, all we talked about around the dinner table was politics because I was so involved with the Reagan campaign. So during that time is when I asked him so many times, ‘You know Ted, when I lost my freedom in Cuba I had a place to come to. If we lose our freedoms here where are we going to go? There is no place to go.’”

    Rafael Cruz is a pastor with Purifying Fire Ministries founded by Suzanne Hinn, ex-wife and then wife again of Benny Hinn. The Hinns are huckster Christians, dealing in faux emotions and invented manifestations of the Holy Spirit at the most convenient and opportune fundraising moments. They are also smart enough to understand where the gravy train is, and so they’ve hitched their boxcar to the New Apostolic, or dominionist movement.

    So has Rafael Cruz. He delivered a sermon in August, 2012 where he discusses how Christians should “take dominion over the earth.” Cruz goes on to define what that means, saying “dominion is over every area — society, education, government, economics…” That particular moment happens 1 hour and 12 minutes in, if you care to watch. It’s instructive to see him deliver that line with dictatorial passion.

    Dad did serve up a couple of interesting nuggets about a young Ted Cruz. Like this one:

    “Ted enters high school, the Free Enterprise Institute organizes a group of five kids, called them the Constitutional Corroborators, now Ted is reading the The Federalist Papers, The Anti-Federalist Papers, and each of the five kids memorized the entire US Constitution.”

    He did, however, neglect to note that the Free Enterprise Institute is a project of Texas builder billionaire Leo Linbeck, III, and that Ted Cruz serves as Trustee of that organization. He is in august company, with fellow trustees ranging from powerful Texas Republicans to billionaires and bankers. It appears that the junior senator from Texas has connections in high places, and that his high school passion has paid off handsomely for him.

    At the end of the interview Rafael Cruz delivers the dominionist line as it has been rewritten by the billionaires who bankroll the Renewal Project summits:

    “So before my son left high school he was passionate about the constitution. He was passionate about freedom and free markets and limited governments. Before he left high school he knew without a shadow of a doubt what his purpose in life was and it was to defend and protect freedom and the Constitution, to fight for free markets and limited government, and it became a passion in his life. So this is not a trajectory of three years, this is a trajectory of 30 years.”

    *****

    The Theology of Government Shutdown: Christian Dominionism
    by Morgan Guyton–Associate Pastor, Burke United Methodist Church
    Posted: 10/01/2013
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/morgan-guyton/the-theology-of-governmen_b_4020537.html

  41. “This must be one of the most irresponsible propaganda pieces I have ever seen you write. Since when do Americans make religion a test for public office?”

    “You give not one single shred of fact linking Ted Cruz to Dominionism, but even if you did, so what! This is America and we do not have religious tests for office.”

    DavidM,

    To return the “complement”, the comment from you I quoted above probably ranks as the cheapest shot you have ever taken in comments here and you have taken many a cheap shot. I do not make religion a test for public office and since I assume you have at least rudimentary reading skills, you know it.

    As for my not giving a single fact linking Ted Cruz to “Dominionism” that is a blatant lie on your part and you know it. David, all your comments here are merely re-working of propaganda and you do it with such zest. I bet you are in rarefied circles in your section of Florida and those circles have everything to do with the Republican Party. You write like a part apparatchik. This is not to say that you are insincere, far from it. You are a true believer whose ability to think critically has been stultified by a sense of entitlement and an overweening ego. Now I guess you can consider this an attack on you personally because it is. Given your first attack on my integrity above I think I have the right to return fire. Please do keep returning here and commenting. As one regular said recently, “if you weren’t here we’d have to invent you” because you are such a poster person for the movement to destroy any shred of decency and democracy in America.

  42. “So has Rafael Cruz. He delivered a sermon in August, 2012 where he discusses how Christians should “take dominion over the earth.” Cruz goes on to define what that means, saying “dominion is over every area — society, education, government, economics…” That particular moment happens 1 hour and 12 minutes in, if you care to watch. It’s instructive to see him deliver that line with dictatorial passion.”

    Elaine,

    Thank you.

    DavidM, denial is not a river in Egypt.

  43. Someone on this blog in weeks past stated that Ayn Rand was Rand Paul’s mother. Is that true? My brother Jack thinks that Rand Paul is a disciple. I don’t know what that word means. When Ron Paul was sitting around the table at the News Hour someone, while they thought they were off camera, asked Ron about his years as an osteopath. His reply was that he saw more ussy than the rest of the candidates put together times ten. A guy like that ain’t gonna cheat on his wife with Monica and employ a cigar.

  44. “A guy like that ain’t gonna cheat on his wife with Monica and employ a cigar.”

    JakeM,

    Don’t bet on it. A close friend at college who was at the head of his class in the Pre Med track confided in me that his goal was to become a gynecologist so that he could look at vagina’s (he put it more crudely) all day long. At the time he was twenty and seeing a 13 year old girl, which made double dating awkward. He married her and we lost touch as he went out of State to Medical School. Three decades later an article appeared in Long Island Newsday about a gynecologist with a wife and five children being accused of sexually molesting three patients. The following day the amount rose to eight patients, Two days later it was up to 51 patients. The following day the headline read that he had checked into a local motel and blew his brains out. It was my old college friend That Paul even made such a comment “off mike” is actually quite sleazy don’t you think?

  45. Let us not judge Mr. Cruz on his accomplishments in the distant past, for he hath richly atoned for them.

    Let us judge Mr. Cruz on his current behavior. Mr. Cruz has reformed. He hath renounced his former associations with the educated elite.

    Let us proclaim Mr. Cruz a moron in the eyes of our deity, the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

    Go then, and be fools no more. Mr. Cruz has that covered.

  46. Mr. Spindell,

    Your post is self-contradictory. If the tea party members and like minded religious conservatives wanted to establish a theocracy, they would not want government shut down. No government is the antithesis of a theocracy. Theocrats want a strong government that could control its citizens, a government which would, for example, collect everyone’s medical information, tax away the citizen’s freedom to spend their hard-earned dollars as they wish, and intercept people’s emails. A government which usurps with the rights of its citizens needs a little shutting down from time to time.

    BTW, to answer your quandary, poor people vote for conservatives because they, more than most, understand the connection between their work and their earnings. They realize that when the government takes away their money, it is taking away their labor.

  47. “If the tea party members and like minded religious conservatives wanted to establish a theocracy, they would not want government shut down. No government is the antithesis of a theocracy.”

    Vincent Jankowski,

    You are furiously spinning but as the song goes:

    “The things that are liable to appear in the Bible,
    They ain’t neccessarily so.”

    If you destroy the government you open the country up for who ever steps in to replace it. Given that the “Dominionists” have some extremely wealthy backers and allies, they would be in perfect position to take over and fill the vacuum. The have also worked hard to infiltrate the military at the Air Force Academy in Colorado Springs.

    “They realize that when the government takes away their money, it is taking away their labor.”

    What they don’t realize is that it is people like you, who don’t say a word about Corporations who don’t pay taxes and vote for people who have shifted the burden of supporting this country to all but those most capable of doing so, disdain them and think them losers. As Mitt Romney said and you no doubt believe “47% of these people are takers.” The real “takers” are about .01% of us who use government as a sophisticated ATM.

  48. Mike Spindell wrote: “As for my not giving a single fact linking Ted Cruz to “Dominionism” that is a blatant lie…”

    Really? Then show me exactly where in your article Ted Cruz expresses that he is a Dominionist or where he expresses Dominionist theology. I’m not convinced you even know what Dominionist theology is. Dominionists do not believe in our Constitution. They believe in theocracy, not in the type of church and state separation expressed by our Constitution.

    Can you even find me one right wing website where Ted Cruz is identified as a Dominionist? Dominionists are not working in secret. They are very upfront about their theological and political beliefs. The only people making these claims are radically crazy left wing publications like the Huffington Post.

    Explain how Ted Cruz could be sworn in as Senator, to uphold our Constitution, if he did not believe in our Constitution? The whole allegation makes no sense.

    I have said previously that Ted Cruz, being newly elected to the Senate, has been unknown to me. However, he now is quickly becoming a hero of mine. I like how he does not rubber stamp everything the President does. He is making Congress work more like it is suppose to work, but most people are too dim about democracy and our system of checks and balances to realize it.

  49. Elaine, thanks for the YouTube of Rafael Cruz. As you might imagine, I did not care for the left wing spin on the website about the video, but it was so refreshing to hear the father of Ted Cruz speak about his son. He is so proud of him, and he believes in him so much. What a stark contrast to President Obama and his father. So many families are fractured and splintered. It was so good to see this hispanic family is so close. And to hear how he helped set him on his path in high school. Ted Cruz memorized the entire Constitution in high school, and read the Federalist Papers too. Wow. I never even read the Constitution in high school, much less memorized it, and I never heard of the Federalist Papers until college. If only all parents were so diligent in raising their children with a purpose in life.

  50. “I have said previously that Ted Cruz, being newly elected to the Senate, has been unknown to me. However, he now is quickly becoming a hero of mine.”

    DavidM,

    Some quotes and commentary about your new “hero” and yes it does seem like you two are of like mind as well as disingenuous:

    “A more disturbing element of Cruz’s speeches were his repeated calls for a “black robe regiment,” a concept promoted by Christian revisionist historian David Barton who claims that clergy were the main backbone of the American Revolutionary War. Here’s what Cruz had to say to the August 29th gathering of Heritage Action, the main lobbyist group behind shutting down the federal government:

    It was pastors who were the backbone of the Revolution. Did you know where Paul Revere was going when he was saying the British are coming? He was going to the home of a pastor by the name of Jonas Clark… [who] was one of many that were called the black robe regiment. These were pastors that wore long black robes. Many of them had the continental army uniform under the black robe. They would preach in church on Sunday and then go out and fight with half their congregation for our independence. I want to encourage our pastors today not to hide behind their pulpits but take the spirit of the black robe regiment.”

    And then from his Dad and mentor:

    “The theological ethos of Rafael Cruz’s vision is in Christian dominionism; he talks about preaching a “message of dominion” that all Christians have received an “anointing as kings.” I watched a sermon he preached on August 26, 2012 at the New Beginnings megachurch in Irving, Texas, led by Christian Zionist charismatic pastor Larry Huch. Huch incidentally had a very interesting prophecy to share when he introduced Cruz to preach:

    We’ve been doing this series here that God laid on my heart: Getting to the top and staying there. A message for us as individuals, the kingdom of God, but also for America. It’s not enough to get there. We need to stay there. It’s not a coincidence that in a few weeks, we go into what’s called in the Bible Rosh Hashanad [sic]… It will be the beginning of the spiritual year 2012. The number 12 means divine government. That God will begin to rule and reign. Not Wall Street, not Washington, God’s people and His kingdom will begin to rule and reign. I know that’s why God got Rafael’s son elected, Ted Cruz the next senator.

    But here’s the exciting thing… The rabbinical teaching is… that in a few weeks begins that year 2012 and that this will begin what we call the end-time transfer of wealth. And that when these Gentiles begin to receive this blessing, they will never go back financially through the valley again. They will grow and grow and grow. It’s said this way: that God is looking at the church and everyone in it and deciding in the next three and a half years who will be his bankers. And the ones that say here I am Lord, you can trust me, we will become so blessed that we will usher in the coming of the messiah.”

    Seems credible to me, but then I would think it’s music to your ears.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/morgan-guyton/the-theology-of-governmen_b_4020537.html

  51. DavidM:

    now dont go frightening to locals with talk of Ted Cruz being your hero.

    The fear of that man is palpable. He is like Lenin to the conservatives.

  52. Ted Crux spoke at a closed-door event (what are they hiding?) for conservative pastors that has been organized by David Lane. This is the same David Lane that writes:

    Our long-term strategy must be to place the Bible in Public Schools as the principle [sic] textbook of American education.

    LOL! DIdn’t anybody proofread his post?

  53. Mike Spindell – You present nothing but a conspiracy theory whose basis in fact is more flimsy than when Republicans tried to claim Barack Obama embraced Black Liberation Theology because he sat under his pastor Jeremiah Wright for 20 years who taught it vehemently.

    Do you REALLY believe that Ted Cruz is against our Constitution, and that he lied when he swore allegiance to our Constitution? Do you really believe that Ted Cruz is trying to destroy our government so that others can step in and establish a theocracy? Do you not see how crazy this sounds?

    The facts suggest that Ted Cruz LOVES our Constitution, and he has dedicated his life to upholding it. He fights for religious liberty. Good for him. He is a champion of our democracy and our Constitution.

    I seriously think I need to take time to go figure out how to join the Tea Party and send Ted Cruz some money to keep doing what he is doing. If he is driving you guys to such irrationality, he must be doing something right, whatever it is.

  54. nal:

    watch the vote in Virginia next month, that might give you an indication of which way the US is going.

    Cuccinelli has good conservative credentials, small government, fiscal responsibility, decent economic policies but he is against many things which go on in the privacy of ones home.

    I cant bring my self to vote for Terry McAuliffe but I am feeling the same way about the Cucci. I am probably going to vote for the Libertarian, hopefully many others will end up doing the same thing although I doubt it, he is rather young.

  55. Nal – Ted Cruz is definitely a Christian, he is definitely a favorite of Christians, and he is a favorite of his dad who is a Christian pastor. However, that does not make him a Dominionist who wants to destroy our government and replace it with a theocracy. Do you recognize the difference?

    As for David Lane wanting to make the Bible the principal textbook in public schools, that is a bit extreme. Nevertheless, there is something wrong with an educational system that makes reading the Bible in public school a criminal offense. The Bible greatly influenced our western culture for more than 1500 years. It is a failure of our educational system not to inform our children about its contents, just because it is deemed to be “religious.” Thomas Jefferson studied the Bible in the languages of Hebrew, Greek, and Latin when he was in school. Jefferson coined the phrase, separation of church and state, and I do not think he would go along with the way that phrase is being interpreted today. Justice Stewart was right in 1963 Abington School District v. Schempp when he said the SCOTUS was establishing a religion of secularism by their decision not to allow the reading of the Bible.

  56. Loving something and understanding it are not mutually assured states.

    Many people love the Constitution.

    Few understand it properly and contextually within the framework of jurisprudence and legal theory.

    If they did, there would have been hordes of torch-wielding citizens in the street demanding the heads of Bush/Cheney and Obama for respectively ordering torture and claiming the ultra vires power to the Executive to be able to execute American citizens without due process, both actions that are manifestly unconstitutional by the plain language of the document itself.

    Many people love Jesus too, but far too few understand the Bible properly and contextually within the framework of the history of that document or how it has historically been shaped to the ends of man by men or that the Gnostic tradition was probably closer to the actual teachings of Jesus than the New Testament.

    Many people love M&M’s and yet have no idea how they are made.

    Love and understanding are not the same thing.

  57. Anyone who is interested in learning more about dominionism and what it entails should go to Leah Burton’s “God’s Own Party” blog and discussions. She is extremely knowledgeable on the subject and can shed much light as to what is going on especially behind the scenes and with the military. Please check it out. David, you are full of it.

  58. “Do you REALLY believe that Ted Cruz is against our Constitution, and that he lied when he swore allegiance to our Constitution?”

    Yes and Yes. I also think that those pushing the shutdown are violating their oaths of office and in effect committing treason against this country. Doing something unconstitutional and getting away with it, doesn’t make it Constitutional.

  59. davidm2575:

    As for David Lane wanting to make the Bible the principal textbook in public schools, that is a bit extreme.

    “A bit” extreme? No, it violates the Constitution. That same document that everyone professes to love.

    Kudos to you for knowing how to spell principal.

    Nevertheless, there is something wrong with an educational system that makes reading the Bible in public school a criminal offense.

    Such an educational system exists on in your fantasy. The primacy of fantasy. Teaching the bible in public schools is a different matter. However, you said “reading”. Do you recognize the difference?

  60. “Nevertheless, there is something wrong with an educational system that makes reading the Bible in public school a criminal offense.”

    DavidM,

    Your dis-ingenuousness knows no bounds. Good try.

  61. davidm said: “Nevertheless, there is something wrong with an educational system that makes reading the Bible in public school a criminal offense.”

    I’d like to know the names of the public schools where this is the case. Most people don’t object to the Bible being read as literature in public schools. What they object to is the Bible being fed to students as the word of God. In the state of Massachusetts, reading the Bible as literature is a requirement. It’s included in our state’s English Language Arts and Literacy Curriculum Framework.
    http://www.doe.mass.edu/frameworks/ela/0311.pdf

  62. surpnsbch wrote: “go to Leah Burton’s “God’s Own Party” blog…”

    Why go to the anti-site to learn about something? God’s Own Party? Bias from the get-go. I read her definition of Dominionism, and immediately see she plays loose with the facts. Waste of time.

    If you want to know what the Dominionists are saying and doing, just go to their sites. The recent articles shared here have been commented on by Joel McDurmon who identifies himself as a Dominionist.
    http://americanvision.org/9559/dominionism-scares-leftists-frenzied-lies/#sthash.mz4OnWLN.dpbs

  63. Mike Spindell wrote: ” I also think that those pushing the shutdown are violating their oaths of office and in effect committing treason against this country.”

    How so? They are not suppose to vote? What are you saying? That they are only allowed to vote the way a party or the administration tells them to vote? Why does the Constitution give them a vote if they are committing treason by exercising that right to vote? I really do not understand where you are coming from. Please explain.

  64. davidm:

    that was interesting. that guy sounds pretty reasonable to me. who can argue with a smaller federal government and more control at the state and local level?

    that is the real rub, the diminution of national power in DC.

  65. Elaine M wrote: “What they object to is the Bible being fed to students as the word of God.”

    Point well taken.

    In being focused on the SCOTUS decision in Abington School District v. Schempp, I may have miscommunicated the idea that Bible reading is illegal. That case did indeed forbid State statutes requiring the reading of the Bible. Nevertheless, teaching the Bible from an academic standpoint is legal in all 50 states. The problem is, that doesn’t mean they do it.

    Most people come up very ignorant of the Bible because the schools do not address it at all. I don’t ever remember reading the Bible in elementary, middle, or high school. In the last few years, several school teachers have been fired for either handing a Bible to a student, or having a Bible on their desk, or other such things. There is a chilling effect on any speech about the Bible. The average university student I talk with is ignorant of even the simplest concepts about the Bible. I consider that a failure of public education.

    I was fortunate to have a history professor in college who taught Western Civilization, and he was not bashful about stating that the church had more influence on the course of Western Civilization than any other institution. Rather than hide from it, he embraced it, and history suddenly started making some sense for the first time in my life. Previously, history was all about memorizing names and date, but he presented ideas and concepts that reflected themselves in art, music and literature for the various time periods we studied. I wondered why all that had been kept hidden all my years in public education. One has to wonder if the secularization of public education is a good thing.

  66. Bron wrote: “who can argue with a smaller federal government and more control at the state and local level? that is the real rub, the diminution of national power in DC.”

    Exactly. That’s why Obama is screaming so loud about some Congressmen actually voting the way they want to vote instead of just doing what their backroom dealers tell them to do. The establishment Republicans are just as upset. It exposes how they have been playing these games all along.

  67. davidm,

    Public schools should not be the institutions who are held responsible for teaching children about the Bible. If parents want their children to learn about the Bible, they should teach them–as should the pastors/preachers in the churches they are members of.

  68. davidm2575:

    In the last few years, several school teachers have been fired for either handing a Bible to a student, or having a Bible on their desk, or other such things.

    That’s not quite the whole story, is it? Freshwater “proselytized in class, continued to undermine evolution and created a display of religious items in his classroom.”

    “Lower courts have spoken clearly: Freshwater violated the Constitution by using his position as a teacher to attempt to impart his religious beliefs.”

    Who do you think you’re fooling when you claim a teacher was fired for “having a Bible on their desk”?

  69. Elaine M wrote: “Public schools should not be the institutions who are held responsible for teaching children about the Bible.”

    Then why did you just share a curriculum that teaches the Bible as literature? Does not a curriculum imply responsibility?

    Public schools should be held responsible to give a broad education in all matters. Many parents know nothing about the Bible. Why condemn these students to ignorance? The Bible has greatly affected our history. In an ideal world, I would expect the school not only to provide basic instruction in the Bible and how our history has been shaped by it, but also to educate my children about Islam and the Quran. After 9/11 especially, these are issues that greatly affect us all. Instead our school system wastes time showing disney films like Finding Nemo.

    You might also consider that some of the polarization in this country is a result of this attitude of limiting public education. Some homes teach their children the Bible, and so they grow up with a paradigm different from the homes that do not educate their children about it. Other homes teach their children the Quran. None of them are allowed to discuss it with teachers in school. Then when these children grow up, they don’t understand one another. They accuse each other of dishonesty because of their inability to understand one another. From such can come wars.

  70. Mr. Spindell,

    You logic is no better than your spelling. Who are “dominionists” wealthy backers who are willing and able to step in if the government is destroyed, George Soros? The SEIU? Also, what makes you think I don’t complain about corporations who don’t pay taxes? You don’t know me so don’t make erroneous assumptions about what I believe in, what I do and do not complain about or who I vote for. Had you gotten your facts straight before blathering from the hip, you might have been surprised and restrained yourself. If you don’t get your facts (or your spelling) right, you will never get your conclusions right either. Wise up. Get your facts straight and don’t make conclusions about people you have never met. Ad hominem attacks have no place in honest discourse.

    And, hey, what’s the deal with the non-responsive statement about the Bible? My comment said nothing about the Bible. You might be surprised about my views on Scripture, too.

    Vince Jankoski

  71. davidm,

    You wrote:
    “Nevertheless, there is something wrong with an educational system that makes reading the Bible in public school a criminal offense.”

    I responded:
    “I’d like to know the names of the public schools where this is the case. Most people don’t object to the Bible being read as literature in public schools. What they object to is the Bible being fed to students as the word of God. In the state of Massachusetts, reading the Bible as literature is a requirement. It’s included in our state’s English Language Arts and Literacy Curriculum Framework.”

    *****

    The curriculum framework provides suggestions for specific Bible stories that teachers could use in teaching children about traditional literature–which includes Bible stories, fables, fairy tales, and myths. The framework doesn’t include a requirement for teaching children about the Bible in a religious context…or for teaching them the Bible from cover to cover.

  72. Nal, my point was just that there has been many incidents that create a chilling effect on free speech and education in the classroom. Freshwater was not the only one.

    http://csl.sog.unc.edu/node/1093

    Also, Walt Tutka shared his Bible with a student and was fired.

    And following is an interesting case about student being mocked by a teacher for having a Bible and saying the Bible is a non-fiction book:

    http://www.christianpost.com/news/teacher-bullies-student-for-saying-bible-is-nonfiction-in-calif-christian-legal-group-responds-106497/

  73. Roberts v. Madigan, 702 F. Supp. 1505 (D. Colo. 1989)
    http://csl.sog.unc.edu/node/1093

    Facts:
    During a school open house, a parent complained to the principal about two books in teacher Kenneth Roberts’s fifth-grade classroom: The Bible in Pictures and The Life of Jesus. The principal reviewed the books and ordered Roberts to remove them from the classroom library. Roberts complied. The principal had on previous occasions noticed Roberts reading a Bible, which he kept on his desk, during class time and had ordered him to keep the Bible in his desk drawer during class hours. The principal had had to repeat this order when Roberts violated it. Roberts asked for written guidelines concerning what materials he could keep in his room, but the principal denied the request, saying that common sense should prevail. Roberts then was warned that failure to keep the Bible out of sight between 8:00 a.m. and 3:30 p.m. would be considered insubordination and grounds for dismissal. Roberts sued, asking for a court order that he be allowed to keep the Bible out on his desk and, on occasion, read from it silently during class hours.

    *****

    Roberts was reading his Bible during class hours? I’d like to know why he was reading his Bible when he should have been teaching and/or observing his students.

  74. davidm2575:

    And following is an interesting case about student being mocked by a teacher for having a Bible and saying the Bible is a non-fiction book

    From the link you provided, I just don’t see any bullying or mocking:

    Teacher says Bible doesn’t count as nonfiction book.
    Student responds: “Honestly, I believe it is.”
    Teacher asks class how many think Bible is nonfiction.
    All but two raised their hand.
    Teacher grants student credit for reading Bible.

    No other facts regarding the incident are provided. The facts provided do not justify a bullying claim. The fact that the teacher grants credit for reading BIble does not support bullying claim.

    I assume you don’t see the legal response against the teacher regarding this incident as creating a chilling effect on the teacher’s free speech and education in the classroom.

  75. “Who do you think you’re fooling when you claim a teacher was fired for “having a Bible on their desk”?”

    Nal,

    David was fooling himself into believing he actually had a viable argument for a change.

  76. “What they don’t realize is that it is people like you, who don’t say a word about Corporations who don’t pay taxes and vote for people who have shifted the burden of supporting this country to all but those most capable of doing so, disdain them and think them losers. As Mitt Romney said and you no doubt believe “47% of these people are takers.” The real “takers” are about .01% of us who use government as a sophisticated ATM.”

    Vincent Jankowski I apologize to you unequivocally for the statement above since I don’t know you and a I presumed things about you for which I have no evidence. I offer no mitigation for my error except to say that I am chastened by it and will endeavor not to make the same mistake in the future. Saw you blog and while there are some points we may disagree upon, it is written in a sober and non-inflammatory manner. When I err I admit it and in this case I erred.

  77. OS wrote: “In your comments, hypothetically substitute Koran for Bible. Now what say you?”

    Uh… I already mentioned the Koran, but I spelled it Qur’an. We definitely need to be educating our children about the Koran in public schools. Although the Bible has greater significance in the guidance of Western Civilization and the creation of our educational system, the Koran has influenced millions around the world, and with the war on terror issues going on, we need to broaden the education of children on these issues.

  78. Elaine M wrote: “Add to the Koran–the Book of Mormon, Torah, Dianetics, Tripitaka, etc.”

    The Torah is part of the Bible, but you make a good point here. Make sure to teach about that. Children should also be taught about the Book of Mormon and the U.S. History associated with it. We just had a Presidential candidate who is Mormon, and so education about that religion is helpful. Dianetics… only superficially because of its recent origins and minor influence, Tripitaka… yes. Add also the Bhagavad Gita. Roman and Greek mythology as well, but I think they cover that now fairly well. A good well rounded education is important. You are on the right track now.

  79. davidm,

    There are public high schools that do teach courses about different world religions. My daughter chose to take one when she was in high school. It was not a required course. There is much to learn when one attends school–including reading, writing, math, literature, the sciences, history, geography, etc. Now, you’d have public school teachers teaching students all about religion and God, too. I wonder what would have to be cut out of the curriculum so that teachers would have time to do that?

    *****

    Creationism and taxes in Louisiana
    By C. Welton Gaddy,
    Published: April 1, 2013
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/on-faith/creationism-and-taxes-in-louisiana/2013/04/01/be823746-9ae5-11e2-a941-a19bce7af755_story.html

    Excerpt:
    In 1785, the commonwealth of Virginia considered a bill that would fund “teachers of the Christian Religion.” James Madison, who as one of our founding fathers was a key architect of our Constitution, wrote that “it is the duty of every man to render to the Creator such homage and such only as he believes acceptable to him.”

    Put another way: funding, participating in and sending our children to religious education programs is the right and responsibility of faith communities, clergy and parents as they see fit. It’s not our government’s purview.

  80. David,
    I don’t have a bit of problem with religious texts in the context you offer. In fact I agree. Most of them are great literature, and played a part in shaping our modern culture. However, we both know that religious people become incensed when their holy books are subjected to critical literary analysis.

    Additionally, any instructor has to be careful to not offer any of those texts in a fashion which could be interpreting as trying to “sell” them to students as “truth.” Personally, that is a tightrope that I would not have wanted to walk back when I was teaching.

  81. To follow up on my last comment. Skilled literary analysis and forensic linguistic techniques have led many biblical scholars to the conclusion parts of the bible were written by multiple authors, contrary to traditional belief that there was a single author for those parts. Even more “heretical,” some authors may have been women. A prime example is Harold Bloom’s interesting work, The Book of J..

    http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/357579.The_Book_of_J

  82. Elaine M wrote: “Put another way: funding, participating in and sending our children to religious education programs is the right and responsibility of faith communities, clergy and parents as they see fit. It’s not our government’s purview.”

    Madison was the strongest of the founding fathers in promoting this concept, but even he caved in and did not veto the bills Congress passed for funding chaplains in the military. He certainly wrote against doing it based upon principle, but when voted upon by Congress, he signed them into law.

    I do not share Madison’s extreme views on this. I am a little more Jeffersonian. I think religious education has value, but there are enough ways to fund it within the religions themselves rather than burden the taxpayer with it. Like Jefferson, I also do not have a problem with indirect support by government, such as churches meeting in public schools or government buildings to teach their philosophies.

    Having said that, we have to realize that a public education system has evolved that is in the business of educating our children. From an academic standpoint, this educational system should not be afraid to address religious issues, regardless of the sensitivities of others. There are lots of ways to deal with these sensitivities. Have the local Iman come teach the students for a day on specific concepts of their religion. Next day have the local Rabbi come teach the students for a day. Day after that, have a Protestant Christian, then a Mormon, then a Roman Catholic, then an Eastern Orthodox. You get the idea. Provide some actual education, some exposure, to the different ideas out there. That is education. Public schools should not indoctrinate students into any particular establishment of religion, but they should educate students about the various establishments of religion. It would probably not take longer than a few weeks.

  83. DavidM writes “The facts suggest that Ted Cruz LOVES our Constitution, and he has dedicated his life to upholding it.”

    GeneH writes “Loving something and understanding it are not mutually assured states.”

    davidbluefish writes “Anthony Wiener loves hot dogs ….or at least one in particular.”

    There are places to love hot dogs and or the bible. As a matter of fact these two specific things are entwined, one promulgates the other.
    Understand please, that dedicating ones life to upholding either, is a matter of choice. Where one does it, is a matter of Law in many instances, and always a matter of taste. The action of doing either is understood by the doer. The reasons are open to interpretation.

    PS. I was concerned that quoting DavidM and GeneH in such close proximity would cause spontaneous combustion on my computer. Thank you Rene Descartes I valiantly attempted it and discovered my fear was unfounded. :o)

  84. Thankyou Mr. Jankoski,

    When I’m wrong I must admit it because that is not only the most ethical way to act, but also the most economical. Think of all the time I would have to waste justifying what I knew in my heart was incorrect behavior. :)

  85. House Republicans Changed The Rules So A Majority Vote Couldn’t Stop The Government Shutdown
    By Ashley Alman
    Posted: 10/13/2013
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/13/house-republicans-rules-change_n_4095129.html

    Excerpt:
    In its effort to extract concessions from Democrats in exchange for opening the government, the GOP has faced a fundamental strategic obstacle: They don’t have the votes. A majority of the members of the House have gone on record saying that if they were given the opportunity to vote, they would support what’s known as a “clean” continuing resolution to fund the government.

    So House Republican leaders made sure no such vote could happen.

    In the hours working up to the government shutdown on Sept. 30, Republican members of the House Rules Committee were developing a strategy to keep a clean CR off the floor, guaranteeing the government would remain shut down.

    Though at least 28 House Republicans have publicly said they would support a clean CR if it were brought to the floor — enough votes for the government to reopen when combined with Democratic support — a House rule passed just before the shutdown essentially prevents that vote from taking place.

  86. Dominionists could as easily be called dominationists. Their goal is to dominate and eliminate those who disagree, whether by exile, imprisonment or murder. Their “solution” for society involves final solutions.

  87. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/19/us/politics/texans-stick-with-cruz-despite-defeat-in-washington.html?hp&_r=0 Home states and districts are usually loyal to their senators and representatives in times of political crisis. But the continued support for Mr. Cruz among Texas Republicans illustrates something larger: the cultural and political divide that continues to widen between a red state that President Obama lost by nearly 16 points in the 2012 election and the blue or even purple parts of the country where Mr. Cruz’s tone and tactics have caused outrage and consternation.

    “Texas is not America,” said Matt Mackowiak, a Republican political consultant in Austin and the former spokesman for Mr. Cruz’s Republican predecessor in the Senate, Kay Bailey Hutchison. “It’s in America, but it’s not America. National polls don’t mean anything. Democrats haven’t won a statewide office in Texas since 1994. There are no Peter Kings in Texas.”

  88. I just discovered Dominionism on Sat. I’m flabbergasted & frightened. I teach public speaking & “carry a soapbox”. My new mission is to make people aware of this!!

  89. “PS. I was concerned that quoting DavidM and GeneH in such close proximity would cause spontaneous combustion on my computer. Thank you Rene Descartes I valiantly attempted it and discovered my fear was unfounded. :o )” (davidbluefish)

    lol … you are braver than I

  90. SwM,

    My, my … all the usual suspects are noticeably absent … is no one willing to lecture us on the rightness of Cruz’s cause … dam our partisanship …

  91. It’s a phk’in tragedy that’s already happened that I can’t do anything about now.

    There are/were political issues I cared about.

    Ron Paul, Professor Turley & others espoused many of them… Individual “Rights” through the Bill of “Rights”, ending foreign entanglements without congressional approval for wars, End the Federal Reserve System & return $USD currency creation back to the US Treasury, End the IRS direct Income Tax system, Clean up the Fraud/corruption of Wallst Banks/Insurance co’s/DC, Alternative energy advancements & Onsite Power Generation,clean air,water,food, vaccines, meds, etc.

    I’m not a women & will never need an abortion yet I’ve been supportive of Rove V Wade.

    I’m not gay yet I’ve been supportive of those peoples “Rights”.

    Well, I believe it’s to phk’in late, it’s the same as if people have gotten drunk and wrecked the damn car!

    I needed support from Gays/Pro Choice & others to also support issues of concern to me yet they’ve been screwed up politically by a few lunatics.

    I’m not sure the number of 2nd Amd voters, but because of Obama’s gun grabbing idiots there just went 30%-50% of US voters into the religious people’s ranks.

    Pro-Choice people have now screwed up big & they haven’t a clue as the next big hammer to fall on them politically, but I am.

    And the there is this msg bb at JT & other msgs bb, I’m seriously considering my continued presence here among all these Obama Racist!

    I’ve lived around Oklahoma most all my life & I’ve known some of the old fashion racist, but I’ve never encountered before this new brand of Racism that Obama supporters continue to spew. (Race Baiters/Cracker Haters/and now Grayson joins in)

    I find it unhelpful & despicable! I don’t like being around that kind of trash!

    Re:

    Obama- Impeachment of GW Bush off the table, grants him/them immunity for war crimes, torture, murder,fraud etc…

    Clintons….

    Former SoH, Rep Nancy Polisi- Impeachment of GW Bush off the table, helps grant him/them immunity for war crimes, torture, murder etc…

    American hating Scum cut from the same cloth…Rep. Michele Bachmann, Rove, Ralph Reed, Newt, Sanatorium, Palin….

    I just hope people are being entertained with all the bread n circus from those political Ringers as people are already having to pay the price of an un-wanted ticket to their family’s/USA’s slaughter.

  92. “There’s a little Washington kerfuffle going on right now over whether Dallas’ Pete Sessions, in a meeting of congressional Republicans with the president in October, said to him, “I can’t even stand to look at you.” Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said it happened, and it was Sessions who said it. A Sessions spokeswoman denies it.

    If it happened, it is reminiscent of the famous infamous incident in 1962 when Ted Dealey, the publisher of the Dallas Morning News, at a meeting of newspaper industry leaders at the White House, told John F. Kennedy to his face to “get off Carolyn’s tricycle” and lead the country. That incivility in the White House made headlines around the country, and would be brought up again and again after the assassination as proof of the dangerous currents alive in Dallas that became encapsulated in the tag “City of Hate.” ” D magazine

  93. Swarthmoremom,
    As you know, Cruz was never a populist and he is using the Tea party and the Republican party to try to catapult himself into the White House. Of course, little facts just keep getting in his way. Thankfully.
    If Rep. Sessions made that statement to the President, he should be called out publicly.

  94. rafflaw,

    Cruz isn’t headed/slated to be prez, he’s a political ringer.

    Canadian born….

    Senate Majority leader at best, … public face…

  95. Wow, I’m must be getting psychic about Obama’s false flags against America.

    I posted those last posts & then pulled up zerohedge & there it appears possibly another false flag opt unfolding right now.

    (sarc laugh) Well what else can Obama/polecats do, arrest Wallst Bank/Insurance Boards of Directors? LOL :)

    He’ll would freeze over before the DC puppet polecats arrested the fraudsters of Wallst.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-10-24/another-naval-base-shooting-incident

  96. SwM,

    When Mike 1st posted this I went checking on Cruz a bit.

    Cruz= GW Bush’s team, Bush vs Gore, in bed with Obama, Pelois, Reid, etc..

    As I continue to ask: Where are the leaders I can get behind?

    My default is don’t change anything now that doesn’t go along with Thomas Jefferson/Madison line of reasoning….

    “Bill of Rights” TJ to JM: “A half a loaf of bread is better then no bread.”

  97. **As I continue to ask: Where are the leaders I can get behind?**

    One of the main reason I continue to follow infowars/zerohedge/usawatchdog/Matt Tabbi, & many other sites is that they have been reporting for years now the blue print of Wallst/London plans using DC to destroy this county & it’s economy.

    Millions now know their rotten scam.

  98. Pete Sessions is one of the two new Representatives that missed his swearing in ceremony because he didn’t find it as entertaining as visiting with supporters. Remember the photo of him watching it on TV and raising his hand and doing it long distance or inter-dimensionally or psychically? WooHoo, found it on a conservative site.

    “LIBTARDS ASSAIL TWO HOUSE REPUBS FOR THEIR NONAPPEARANCE AT SWEAR-IN CEREMONY”

    http://pumabydesign001.com/2011/01/07/libtards-assail-two-house-repubs-for-their-nonappearance-at-swear-in-ceremony/

  99. Mary Gibbs wrote: “This entire article is fabrication…………how sad that you believe this junk.”

    Hi Mary. If you read through the comments, you will see that not everyone believes this article. Feel free to add your comments of exactly what it is that you disagree with.

  100. Since we moved last May, we have been to numerous churches looking for a church home. To say it has been difficult is an under statement, but it has opened my eyes to what the non-believers experience when coming to a new church for help.
    Jesus was asked that some people were saying He was a follower of the teachings of Paul and that others were saying Jesus was a follower of John the Baptist, but Jesus answered that He only was a follower of His Father in Heaven. Jesus knew that someday there would be the questions of who do we follow. Do you follow the teachings of the Methodist, or the Baptist, or the Nazarenes, or the Pentecost, or the ‘whatever denomination’? I choose to follow Jesus who said He follows His Father. Jesus was very clear when asked this question, was He not?
    Jesus asked John the Baptist to baptize Him. John jumped back and said that he could not baptize Jesus the son of God. Jesus said that it wasn’t man that would baptize, but the Holy Spirit. Denominations that are trying to force you to be baptized in their church, even though you were already baptized in another; must ask themselves if they are better than the Holy Spirit who baptized me once, just as He baptized Jesus just once. A man calling himself a pastor of a denomination cannot baptize nor provide salvation to another individual; that is only provided by the Holy Spirit or Jesus.
    Are churches becoming more powerful than God? Have the churches become a sacred society that keeps those out of their buildings that think different from their interpretations? Are the churches today what Jesus warned us of when asked who He followed? When a church has closed communion for members ONLY, are they saying only they have Jesus and THEY are not going to share?

  101. How is the Right’s defining of “deviants” substantially different from how the Nazis did it early on in Germany? (Many of those professed to be Christian) How far does it have to go before we draw the parallels and put a stop to it? Already the poor are being forced into ghettos; the poor are the 21st Century’s equivalent of the European Jews. They will start there. Will there be resettlement of the undesirables? Will they have to wear symbols in public? Is it OK just to have a whole huge segment of the purchased press air rants against all deviants and package it as news? This is scary stuff; all the more so because it is backed by people with so much money that they can -and do- buy any mouthpiece they want. They can buy all of the communications networks and publishing. Keep freedom alive; the internet may be our best hope.

  102. A very powerful message regarding the movement that seeks to establish theocracy in America. The article suggests, however, that somehow Dominionism is at fault for the concept of a world at war with Satan. If there was ever doubt that we are in opposition with unseen dark forces, then the proof can surely be found within many of the gated communities of the Church. The Pharisees are alive and well in 2013, a sure harbinger of the 2nd coming if there ever was one …

  103. Bob McDonnell, my state’s governor, is a product of (Soli Deo Gloria!) Pat Robertson’s Regent University, and he told us all who he is and what he serves in his master’s thesis: God guides him. God as defined by his interpretation of God’s inerrant scripture. When he was running for office, the Washington Post asked him about what he’d written in his masters thesis, and he replied that he no longer held those beliefs. But actions speak louder. His record in Virginia has been one incessant push to enact those very beliefs.

    McDonnell’s thesis defines the pro-working family Democratic position — health care reform, minimum wage, etc. — as negative, using quotations around the word family when the family in question doesn’t fit his definition. He also uses the term “deviant.” What becomes clear is that he sincerely believes his version of the Republican position is God-given. (Other positions are not. I suppose they are deviant.) Which is to say McDonnell is willing to speak for God. That is the classic definition of irreverence.
    Deeming man basically bad, McDonnell draws the conclusion that government, being man-made, should not be trusted. Why, I cannot help but wonder, would a man holding such beliefs seek to be governor?

    It’s becoming more and more clear.

  104. “What becomes clear is that he sincerely believes his version of the Republican position is God-given. (Other positions are not. I suppose they are deviant.) Which is to say McDonnell is willing to speak for God. That is the classic definition of irreverence.”

    Deborah Conner,

    I couldn’t agree with you more. What I’d add is that beyond irreverence one might even say pretending to speak for God is blasphemy. The people who see humanity as inherently evil always strike me as people with evil in their own heart that hey project onto others.

  105. Mike, a while back I was mocked at a different site for bringing up the book “A Handmaid’s Tale” while discussing the rampant anti women’s legislation happening at the state level and attempts at the federal level. The mocker was a rightist who sees absolutely nothing wrong with laws that would circumvent Roe v.Wade. It’s that paternal ideology that is pervasive in Christian Fundamentalism. Yes, domination of women is part and parcel of it. Legislatiing morality, especially when it’s connected to religious belief systems is a big step toward theocracy. Those poor Iranian women didn’t know what was going to hit them after they protested in the streets to oust the Shah.

    I don’t understand why some rightists who claim to be atheists or not religious don’t have more red flags going up in their heads when they see and hear what these Dominionists are all about. Do they so desperately seek the Presidency they just don’t care? Or do they have faith that it would never com to that. As I said on the other thread, never say never. Who would’ve thought that a Representative of the US would say a woman can “shut that whole thing down” regarding pregnancy and rape.

  106. I don’t understand it, either. I live in Wichita Falls, TX, a red town in a red state. I’m a 60 year old woman with a daughter, and I’ve been a teacher for 35 years. I can make lists of how women and education have suffered because of the “right”, and the most frightening part – they are not through, and they are not stopping. Dominionism is appalling!

  107. “Mike, a while back I was mocked at a different site for bringing up the book “A Handmaid’s Tale” while discussing the rampant anti women’s legislation happening at the state level and attempts at the federal level.”

    Annie,

    It happened that I was thinking about that bleak book as I wrote my piece. That book described the vision that these people have for America and it ain’t funny.

  108. Mike Spindell wrote: “That book described the vision that these people have for America and it ain’t funny.”

    No, it is not the vision of these people, but the fictional imagination of an author who fears what these people might do.

  109. “No, it is not the vision of these people, but the fictional imagination of an author who fears what these people might do.”

    DavidM,

    Yet that “fictional imagination” has its roots in the reality of the dominionist movement. Even you, who I assume would categorically state that you’re not a Dominionist, believes that man should rule over woman and that homosexuality shouldn’t be given license.

  110. Good for you on this article. And I beg people to start to do the research and expose them for what they are. Aside from the fact thier theological roots lie with RJ.Rouss, an extremist Nazi loving Theologian who spawned a lot of Amercian subgroups, the radical spin that they put on the Bible and the heavy emphasis on “New Prophecies” made up by bizarre self-proclaimed prophets should make people stop and ask a few questions. They hide behind about 15 closesly related sub groups(Quiverfull, N.A.R, Christian Reconstructionists) and about 400 affilitated legitimate churches. They have INFILTRATED or influenced many innocent Churches who hear “Christian” and ” Jesus” and think they are talking “Christian” as in mainstream Christian. However they are NOT. Their theology includes “supernatural” god-like “Super Christians” who are ABOVE THE LAW and who rule for life, or until Jesus comes. When they say taking money from the ungodly to do God’s work on earth, we “hear” it as taking money from those corps and individuals who blatantly stole from our economy or evaded taxes to help the poor.(After all, Jesus repeatedly taught serving the poor). That is NOT what they mean. The “ungodly” that they wish to take from are: Homosexuals, abortion seeking women, JEWS who don’t immediately covert, Roman Catholics and MANY OTHER MAINSTREAM CHRISTIAN GROUPS WHO DO NOT SUBMIT TO THIER RADICAL THEOLOGY.Yes, Virginia, this means you. Any Christian who refuses to respect the God-like leader is in trouble. Read Jeff Sharlet’s book tHE FAMILY and see how little this group refers to the Bible. Then look at Cindy Jacobs, Domionists, Peter Wagner and others and how they all OVERLAP and say the same thing….Then look at who they worship and who funds them:Big oil, big biz
    Essentially they are making things up and we will end up “worshipping” our leaders as infallible gods. And by the way, if Jesus does not suddenly appear, these same “chosen ones” will be glad to handle and spend your money(after siezing control of the banking systems) until he does.Essentially we will be right back to PAGAN ROME, wherein the EMPEROR was worshipped as a god. AND THIS IS CHRISTIANITY?

  111. Rafael Cruz, (ABC News), says he is not affiliated with Purifying
    Fire ministries of Suzanne and Benny Hinn. He is a “one man”
    ministry called Purifying Ministries according to the office of Sen. Cruz.

  112. Res ipsa loquitur (“The thing itself speaks”). Sorry. I don’t think that applies here. This article and most of the posts seem to be nothing more than paranoid projection. As a generality (you have to speak generally in situations like this) Conservatives and Conservative Christians have no interest in Christian govt. It is actually the opposite. Conservatives, as a matter of fervently held doctrine, oppose religious govt and are totally supportive of secular govt. Any attempt by some micro sect to tilt against that windmill is doomed to failure.

  113. You ruined your credibility when you claimed that right wing Christians brutally suppress others while you ignore rampant intolerance of Christian students by their teachers, the media’s stubborn refusal to report on leftist hate speech, the Obama IRS’s extreme prejudice toward conservative groups, etc. In short, being a Christian in this country means being suppressed continually by snotty, bigoted, ignorant leftists.

  114. The very far right want to establish corporations to be unbridled. Their greed and ignorance stirred along with the blindness of their faith, have no rationality to their thoughts, ideas, takeover of the U.S. by a theocratic order under “Biblical Law” according to their interpretation of the bible. Their agenda to undermine all social programs that assist the poor, sick, and the elderly. The form of economics would require people to look for God and not the government for help. So severe is this theocracy that it would extend capital punishment [to] blasphemy, heresy, adultery, and homosexuals. I sure love to inform these evangelicals that King James was a homosexual, and his friends and family affectionately, called him “Queen James,” and all references of the King James bible totally left out homosexuality as a sin. Since than, “King James” was revised in the 1930’s and “homosexual” was put back in the bible.

  115. Patricia Blea wrote: “Their agenda to undermine all social programs that assist the poor, sick, and the elderly.”

    Actually, this statement is not true. Most on the right believe that social programs should be done by individuals, charities and corporations, not by government. The reason is that government takes money by force, which is like legalized stealing. Also, experience has taught us that government is inherently wasteful because it does not earn the money they receive. They are basically spending money that somebody else earned. In contrast, individuals and corporations are spending the money that they earned to help the poor. This is a motivation for them to spend the money wisely on social programs. Charities receive money voluntarily, so if they are not wise in what they do, people can choose to give to another charity instead. With government, there is no choice.

  116. “Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they’re sure trying to do so, it’s going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can’t and won’t compromise. I know, I’ve tried to deal with them.” This prophetic quote from two decades ago was authored by the late Sen. BARRY GOLDWATER. Ted Cruz is Goldwater’s worst fears come to life.

  117. This author could obviously use a little refresher in history. The biggest threat to ‘deviants’ in the history of the world have been big central gov’ts.

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