While some commentators have rushed to suggest that the puppy shown in this video was either dead or stuffed, the accused Marine has reportedly posted an apology. David Motari has been named as the Marine in the video, though the Marines are still investigating. In what is purported to be a posting from him below, he blames the stress of combat.
In his alleged apology, Modari says that in combat people “develope [sic] a different sence [sic] of humor than what others are used to.” He say that he is “sorry about the dog.” He also complains about people bothering his family and his girlfriend.
For the statement, click here
Yet, in this video of the incident, a strikingly different individual is shown.
There is still no confirmation that this is indeed a genuine apology from Motari. Notably missing in the statement is any support for the spin recently put on the video to claim everything from a dead puppy to a suspected IED, click here
Even if there is no confirmed apology, one would have expected someone to come forward to make that stuffed or deceased dog claim given the torrent of controversy. Some advocates seem to be struggling to find a way to blame a liberal media for the controversy and have made criticizing this Marine into an attack on all Marine. Obviously, the outrage is due not only to the horrible attack but that this is not indicative of our service members. Indeed, the Marines seem pretty ticked about this whole episode and they will likely prove the harshest judges of all.
It is certainly wrong that people are harassing his family and girlfriend. That is a uniquely stupid act — not unlike throwing a puppy over a cliff. While combat fatigue may be a defense (or mitigating factor) in a possible criminal charge , click here, it should not alter the fact that this Marine does not appear capable of maintaining proper discipline and conduct in a combat area. It may be sufficient for Motari to simply agree to a less than honorable discharge as the proper punishment for this monstrous act. What he lost (in what this posting suggests is a momentary loss of humanity) should be the honor to wear the uniform of the United States Marines. It is a hard punishment for a young Marine, but it could be worse: he could be thrown over a rocky cliff.
“You can only be outraged at one thing at a time, and it has to be what outrages Ernie.”
yeah, for some odd reason dead Iraqi children bother me more then a cute little puppy being thrown off a cliff.
Comments like these… “AND Mortari is one of only a handful of bad seeds”…. show the disconnection of what actually happens in war and the fantasy world Americans live in where killers have a tender heart and wouldn’t hurt a puppy but we’ll sure blow the fck out people that don’t slow down fast enough. Soliders and Marines do cruel things in war, it ALWAYS happens, because war by definition is cruel, the problems are not with the “bad apples” but with those that send these kids to war.
ernie: You’ve got it right. You can only be outraged at one thing at a time, and it has to be what outrages Ernie. Also it must involve great issues of the day as “little” outrages do not count. Finally, if you are outraged by “little” things, it necessarily implies that you are not outraged by big things, and you must never ever mention the”little” outrages as people like ernie assume the big things don’t bother you. Is that about right? I’ll just call it Ernie’s law of outrage.
I have to repost this….
To those angered by the video:
Now people are outraged! WTF America?!
Yeah this is not behavior to be condoned of course, but all this outrage over a fckn puppy? Where’s the outrage over the thousands of dead and maimed Americans? The hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqis? The sick War Profiteering? Oh no, don’t get outraged over that, instead lets all create a movement over a martyred puppy?
The dead iraqi children- are they’re deaths not worthy of the outrage seen in the youtube responses? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8p80q6GDsQ&feature=related
Just goes to show how the American public is so disconnected with whats happening around the world. Spare your tears over a puppy and how about shedding some for the countless people who have died needlessly in Iraq.
I got news for you people, a hell of a lot of worse acts are bing committed in Iraq. I’m a Marine Iraq vet and am VEHEMENTLY against this war but c’mon, people are dying right now yet we’re outraged over this? Are you really that surprised that trained killers (thats why marines exist, to kill other PEOPLE, its what we do) have a sick sense of humor and often act on it? Wake up people, there is no humanity in war, and I’m disgusted with America’s indifference to the reality of war. Hypocrites.
If I here one more whiney pants punk @s$ talk about what the constant pressure of war is like, I’m going to explode. I have family that served in WWII and never once did I hear them complain. They fought without all the fancy shit we have today, came back changed…but not beaten and certainly not whiney. Many in our military today have forgotten or never learned to be men. For whatever reason, people like Motari have been raised in the PC world of today. I’d be willing to bet that he’s done other not so nice things in the past. Puppy throwing is not something a NORMAL person would do.
War is hard, war is not always good or right, but when you sign up for the military, what do you expect, tea and crumpets daily at 2:00.
I appreciate our military for doing what they believe is right and for being able to follow orders better than anyone on the planet. They are here to protect. AND Mortari is one of only a handful of bad seeds. But, those bad seeds should be thrown out like yesterdays trash. Today, however, we are too politically correct to punish the wrong doers. It’s so much easier to let the bully get away with it and punish the one being bullied.
AND, if the apology is real he’s only sorry because he got caught nor for his actions. The video shows just how little he cares. If the dog was dead or alive doesn’t even matter. It’s his attitude that is scary. “I threw a puppy, oh well, whatever.” Sick, just sick.
Over a dog?
Well, over an example of a soldier taking sadistic pleasure in cruetly against an animal for fun, yeah. Don’t flatter yourself that you have some special immunity to sentimentality. I think its generally accepted that somethimes animals must be destroyed, either for humane reasons or for the safety or even expedience of men.
But viciousness and sadism aren’t ever acceptable, even to defenseless animals, and the mocking pride about the cruelty nearly as bad. That kind of character defect is apalling in anyone but particularly men charged with using force decently.
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The “confession” is much more likely to be some crap griefer hoax, than a real post. I think that’s been pointed out ad nauseum.
Even the (now deleted, but posted verbatim above) post on the original blog is suspect and probably a hack.
That isn’t his “personal” info, BTW, its public information about his identity. When they start calling out his social security number and bank account numbers, I’ll get concerned.
Uh, people, this is the internet, you know? There is no way someone faked the myspace page? Considering it was put up AFTER the video aired, it looks pretty fishy. People are ACTUALLY threatening his family. Over a dog? Get a grip.
Radio shows are giving out all his personal info. Over a dog?
I completely agree with yatchi. Please don’t cry for the psychotic David Montari because he had too much stress. We don’t have a draft. He probably went to Iraq in the first place because he is a sadistic monster and killing pleases him. On top of that he’s getting paid. Iraq and Motari’s stress weren’t the poor dog’s fault. I don’t like to bring the campaign into this, but Michelle Obama has said two things I agree with: yes, this is becoming a very mean country and yes, things have gotten steadily worse for working people over the past 15 years.
For once and for all, the puppy-throwing video is REAL. Yep, David Motari, the brave soldier that threw a living, bound puppy to its death, admits it on MySpace.
Click below for a screen grab:
http://www.albertastars.com/userphotos/1233_3238_R.JPG
The so-called confession should, as you have done, be taken with a huge grain of salt.
The scandal has attracted the usual cadre of griefers who, as in the Lori Drew case, delight in chain-yanking of folks following the story on the internet, and hacking or faking myspace accounts is a standard “lulz” stratagem.
The first version of the “confession” went like this (verbatim):
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The Sergeant Major called me in today and it looks like they found out about the dog thing. I don’t know who it was who put it on fucking youtube, but man they are not happy… They were even talking about court martialing me, but they better not. It wouldn’t be fair because they didn’t court martial the last guy they caught fucking with a dog.
Shit, atleast i was humane about it. That guy from motor transport shot a dog in the stomach in front of the Major and everyone thought it was funny. I fuck up and it gets on TV and all of a sudden it’s wrong. This is some BS. POS media, always sticking its nose where it doesn’t belong”
Anyone boneheaded enough to be party to celebrating puppy-smashing- soldier-patrol on video as a demonstration of the lighter side of military service, could be stupid enough to post such a thing.
I sincerely doubt he did, and there is that griefer community I mentioned to account for it, they would find it a very good joke to stir the pot in such a way.
FWIW, the puppy toss itself, if audio software is to be believed,(and one discounts elaborate hoax overdubs of puppy cries as unlikely, as I do), shows the doppler effect some complain is missing, and in fact tracks perfectly with the puppy’s rotations.
If the puppy did cry, he did throw a live puppy, for the fun of it, and the stardom of it, at least among his film buddies.
==janet 1, March 5, 2008 at 7:54 pm
“Moonbat rising: Admit it, you & the other one percenters in America hate our sons & daughters in the military anyway and this is just another excuse for you to badmouth them.”
Is ‘Moonbat rising’ in favor of defrauding U.S. soldiers into early graves; or is it a problem with folks who toss puppies for kicks and those who defend them?
“As far as J. Turley, he needs to get a pipe so when he goes on the little watched MSNBC as a liberal hired gun …
“Turely, I don’t know how you sleep at night. Your monologues are just left wing spin for the mindless few that watch MSNBC.”
I can understand your frustration; especially when that ‘hired gun’ turns out to be as classy, precise & accurate as a pre-64 Winchester Model 70 while faux ‘conservatives’ like you show up armed with only a dull butter knife.
Must be hard for you watching seditious conspiracy to render the Constitution into a urinal puck vanish in a puff of logic.
Well, keep your chin up and treat yourself to another one of those American flag pins; seeing how you deem fealty to the Constitution as being so out of fashion these days.
“And this is the shit I have to put up with everywhere I’ve gone today. Believe me I’ve heard it all. The thing that you guys don’t understand is that you’re not out there.
What, you expect me to carry a stray sick dog from patrol 10+ miles back to camp with me. Did you know that we’re not supposed to have dogs? Did you know that there isn’t medicine available for animals out there? So what the fuck do you want me to do with it. It was going to die a slow and horrible death.
Sorry you guys saw that, but it wasn’t supposed to ever been shown. Usually what happens is we shoot them. I was being “creative” that day and decided to throw the dog instead. If I could take it back, I would. Either way, I did the dog a favor. Sorry if you can’t understand that.” David Motari
Let’s break dynamic Dave’s oh so sympathetic apology down, shall we:
“And this is the shit I have to put up with everywhere I’ve gone today.”
Not only will you be getting shit today, but you will be getting it for the rest of your life scumbag.
“The thing that you guys don’t understand is that you’re not out there.”
You are right we aren’t out there but thanx to that nutty little thing called the video camera you used to capture the act you so gleefuly executed and the internet, you have most graciously brought it to us all over the world.
“What, you expect me to carry a stray sick dog from patrol 10+ miles back to camp with me.”
No I don’t think we could ask of you such a great burrden. However I don’t think people would like to see someone bind the paws of a helpless dog, have you and your buddy laugh about it as you killed it you studip idiot.
“Sorry you guys saw that, but it wans’t supposed to ever been shown.”
Well shucks, guhilk – guhilk, looks like it’s too late for that now buddy.
Usually what happens is we shoot them. I was being “creative” that day and decided to throw the dog instead.”
So you decided to be “creative”. Wow this is what David Matori considers to be “creative”. Just imaging what kind of fun, “creative” adventures he will have for his children one. Hopefully there will never have to be a soul to exists as that piece of garbages son.
“If I could take it back, I would.”
No take backs stupids, too late now.
“Either way, I did the dog a favor.”
And someone should do you a favor and put you down, because other wise there are thousands of people on this planet ready to make your life a living hell.
“Sorry if you can’t understand that.”
Oh, boohoo, the victim card. What I understand is like I said in the post before, is that David Matori’s days are numbered. I will not be the one doing it but there are thousands and thousands of people outraged by this and at some point in time we will here of this scumbags demise. It will be well deserved.
Regardless if he is sorry or not, he is screwed for life; or what little of it is left LOL. Someone is going to kill this David Matori trash. We will all here about it sometime in the near future and I for one will celebrate his death. I can only hope that someone video tapes it. This piece of trash is not a human being and should be punished until the day he dies. I will take great pleasure in the suffering of those that support him once someone kills him. I can only hope that they are able to torture him first. David Motari = walking dead man. Can’t wait to see it on the news. We all know it’s coming. I also hope the cameraman comits suicide once his buddy is dead.
“Obama begins with a broad assessment of life in America in 2008, and life is not good: we’re a divided country, we’re a country that is “just downright mean,” we are “guided by fear,” we’re a nation of cynics, sloths, and complacents. “We have become a nation of struggling folks who are barely making it every day,” she said, as heads bobbed in the pews. “Folks are just jammed up, and it’s gotten worse over my lifetime. And, doggone it, I’m young. ”
I for one agree with Obama’s assesment, at least here in the DC area. People are so damn depressed and nasty. I went to the midwest recently to check out a law school there and I was shocked by the civility and friendliness shown by practically everyone there.
Focus Janet. Focus. Apology from the dude who threw the puppy in Iraq. Try to stay on topic – there will be a test at the end of the week.
Lori – because I don’t like the idea or throwing puppies off a cliff, I’m a “surrenderist”? Krikes – last week I was a defeatocrat for wanting better helmets.
Hard to keep up.
Hi Susan, this is not to disagree with what you said but in a real sense everyone over there including the civilians and animals, earns our sympathy. Its one big JF.
But if he did it, it was a bad thing, and the UCMJ will cover it no doubt.
Thanks, Mespo, Janet’s comment(s) seem to go way off the deep end here. I didn’t see anyone “harassing” Motari’s family at all, only verbally criticizing HIM, criticism which by his own callous action, he brought on himself.
Mark:
An apology isn’t going to stop the Internet Lynch Mob. They are on a mission to destroy him since he is a flawed human being and then proceed to make his entire family live in hell for the rest of their lives.
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Oh PLEASE. It appears to me that Motari is only sorry that he was caught on camera, not to mention being extremely thin-skinned when it comes to taking well-deserved verbal criticism. Simply because he’s a marine doesn’t give him a pass to throw a puppy, whether alive OR dead off a cliff. Why do such a thing at all? If he couldn’t take the slightest form of criticism, then he should have acted in a more compassionate fashion than he actually did. He doesn’t deserve any sympathy from me, and he won’t get any.
Janet: You don’t get to accuse those who disagree with you as being un-American or rooting for the enemy. That is the argument of the totalitarian as history has shown time and time again. Why do you think Johnson said “patriotism is the last refuge of scoundrels?”
Lori: So it’s my country right or wrong eh? Let me give you an example and ask you how you would handle this situation, and no name calling is allowed in the answer. Your kid comes home with a real shiner on his eye. You ask him/her about it and he/she says another kid “hit me for no reason.” Unbeknownst to you and your kid, a surveillance video camera with crystal clear audio films the entire encounter and the tape is supported by the testimony of a group of 20 clergy of your choice. The tape unequivocally confirms that your kid started the fight for no reason at all and inflicted as much pain as he/she got. Still support your kid?
March 5, 2008
A Chavez/Obama Axis?
The government of Colombia says that when it conducted a raid into Ecuador to destroy a terrorist camp there, it seized a laptop that contained a number of communications to and from the “Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia.” The communications are pretty interesting; among other things, they seem to connect Venezuela’s Hugo Chavez to the Communist rebel group. No surprise there.
Most intriguing to an American reader are the references to Barack Obama:
Writing two days before his death, Reyes [FARC’s “foreign minister”] tells his comrades that “the gringos,” working through Ecuador’s government, are interested “in talking to us on various issues.”
“They say the new president of their country will be (Barack) Obama,” he writes, saying Obama rejects both the Bush administration’s free trade agreement with Colombia and the current military aid program.
Reyes writes that his response to the Americans was that the United States would have to publicly express these positions.
It would be nice if a reporter would ask Obama whether his staff has been engaging in diplomatic outreach to a Communist group bent on overthrowing a U.S. ally. Or–who knows?–maybe the “gringos” are from the CIA, conducting, as is their wont, their own foreign policy.