Maine today legalized same-sex marriage — joining D.C. this week in the historic act.
Gov. John Baldacci signed a bill almost immediately after its passage. He noted that the public may still reserve the decision — as they did in California.
The expanding number of states recognizing same-sex marriage may be the issue that the GOP is looking for in fighting the D.C. vote in Congress and seeking a constitutional amendment to rally its broken party.
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Former Dem,
My opinion of most gay men is that they are very reserved because they are not comfortable with themselves.
But there is s group that go to the extreme in an attempt to “prove” to whomever is bored enough to listen or watch that they are more happy with whom they are than anyone else, you know, like the Folsom Street parade group. Now that parade is classy – NOT.
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The first statement is a fallacy. Look up that, but I am impressed you thought.
The second statement is or may be true, I am not aware that that is why they do that. I am interested that you know about the Folsom Street Parade. I had to google it to see what it was about.
Are you a member of some gay pride movement and you speak from experience?
If I remember in your post on here earlier you stated that you were driving by the Chrysler plant.
You have a problem with people working?
Last June Former Dem I lost over 400 thousand dollars in bank stock. But I am sure you are for the banks to be bailed out as this is what your charging order detail.
Are you a Fascist want to be?
Former Dem doth protest too much.
anonymously yours:
You mean class like Perez Hilton? One helluva classy guy, eh….
My opinion of most gay men is that they are very reserved because they are not comfortable with themselves.
But there is s group that go to the extreme in an attempt to “prove” to whomever is bored enough to listen or watch that they are more happy with whom they are than anyone else, you know, like the Folsom Street parade group. Now that parade is classy – NOT.
FORMER DEM, stop trolling.
“Source tells AP Justice Department does not recommend criminal charges against Bush administration lawyers who wrote ‘torture memos’.”
Yes, but at least they can get married in Maine now. Thank goodness!
P.S.,
The arguments about 2 and 3 men, women, goats etc. getting married are just as “valid” coming from a starting point of heterosexual marriage. It’s starts with the heterosexuals and ends with the goats!
Can’t resist, Former Dem,
Why are you opposed to Gay Marriage? Then at least you would stand a chance of having a date. But then again most Gay men have more class than you exhibit, so you’d still be alone.
Charges Unlikely for Memos
Backing CIA Interrogations
Source tells AP Justice Department does not recommend criminal charges against Bush administration lawyers who wrote ‘torture memos’.
Sounds to me like the message from the CIA “screw with our intelligence gathering & Americans will get killed” is getting through to at least a couple of the momentarily half sane bunch Obama has on staff.
Hey, how about Obama lecturing American on our duty to pay taxes for the betterment of America and not to pay attention to the small minority that cheat, WHILE TIM GEITNER stood at his side!
Even CNN had a field day with that one! Haven’t seen Gay boy Olbermann talk about it yet, though.
Barone: ‘We have just seen an episode of ‘Gangster Government’
White House puts UAW ahead of property rights
By: Michael Barone
New York Times
Senior Political Analyst
05/05/09 7:11 PM
Last Friday, the day after Chrysler filed for bankruptcy, I drove past the company’s headquarters on Interstate 75 in Auburn Hills, Mich.
As I glanced at the pentagram logo I felt myself tearing up a little bit. Anyone who grew up in the Detroit area, as I did, can’t help but be sad to see a once great company fail.
But my sadness turned to anger later when I heard what bankruptcy lawyer Tom Lauria said on a WJR talk show that morning. “One of my clients,” Lauria told host Frank Beckmann, “was directly threatened by the White House and in essence compelled to withdraw its opposition to the deal under threat that the full force of the White House press corps would destroy its reputation if it continued to fight.”
Lauria represented one of the bondholder firms, Perella Weinberg, which initially rejected the Obama deal that would give the bondholders about 33 cents on the dollar for their secured debts while giving the United Auto Workers retirees about 50 cents on the dollar for their unsecured debts.
This of course is a violation of one of the basic principles of bankruptcy law, which is that secured creditors — those who lended money only on the contractual promise that if the debt was unpaid they’d get specific property back — get paid off in full before unsecured creditors get anything. Perella Weinberg withdrew its objection to the settlement, but other bondholders did not, which triggered the bankruptcy filing.
After that came a denunciation of the objecting bondholders as “speculators” by Barack Obama in his news conference last Thursday. And then death threats to bondholders from parties unknown.
The White House denied that it strong-armed Perella Weinberg. The firm issued a statement saying it decided to accept the settlement, but it pointedly did not deny that it had been threatened by the White House. Which is to say, the threat worked.
The same goes for big banks that have received billions in government Troubled Asset Relief Program money. Many of them want to give back the money, but the government won’t let them. They also voted to accept the Chrysler settlement. Nice little bank ya got there, wouldn’t want anything to happen to it.
Left-wing bloggers have been saying that the White House’s denial of making threats should be taken at face value and that Lauria’s statement is not evidence to the contrary. But that’s ridiculous. Lauria is a reputable lawyer and a contributor to Democratic candidates. He has no motive to lie. The White House does.
Think carefully about what’s happening here. The White House, presumably car czar Steven Rattner and deputy Ron Bloom, is seeking to transfer the property of one group of people to another group that is politically favored. In the process, it is setting aside basic property rights in favor of rewarding the United Auto Workers for the support the union has given the Democratic Party. The only possible limit on the White House’s power is the bankruptcy judge, who might not go along.
Michigan politicians of both parties joined Obama in denouncing the holdout bondholders. They point to the sad plight of UAW retirees not getting full payment of the health care benefits the union negotiated with Chrysler. But the plight of the beneficiaries of the pension funds represented by the bondholders is sad too. Ordinarily you would expect these claims to be weighed and determined by the rule of law. But not apparently in this administration.
Obama’s attitude toward the rule of law is apparent in the words he used to describe what he is looking for in a nominee to replace Justice David Souter. He wants “someone who understands justice is not just about some abstract legal theory,” he said, but someone who has “empathy.” In other words, judges should decide cases so that the right people win, not according to the rule of law.
The Chrysler negotiations will not be the last occasion for this administration to engage in bailout favoritism and crony capitalism. There’s a May 31 deadline to come up with a settlement for General Motors. And there will be others. In the meantime, who is going to buy bonds from unionized companies if the government is going to take their money away and give it to the union? We have just seen an episode of Gangster Government. It is likely to be part of a continuing series.
lottakatz:
Conservatives have time and again told you how this hurts marriage.
If two men can marry, why can’t three? Why can’t three women marry? Then who is to say a daughter cannot marry her father if she is of legal age? Who is to say a mother marry her son?
Very shortly we are going to be seeing all these challenges and then what. Do we say no and if we do – what do we base a NO on, since we just corrupted the institution of Marriage.
And everyone followed the recommendations of the following:
U.S.D.A. Promotes Horse & Goat Meat
link: http://www.igha.org/USDA.html
The barbque was in good taste. All of the Bushes were invited as they have a home there as well.
PTL and don’t forget to Pay The Leader.
Another reason for radical Islamacists to point the finger at us as evil.
People cheering gay marriage need to read Bin Laden’s letters to America and think about what he is saying about our ways, culture, and acceptance of what their beliefs call evil never to be accommodated.
Queen of Sheba:
“The GOP is so tiresome on this subject. And no one ever asks exactly how same-sex marriage “threatens” traditional marriages. Never. Of course there wouldn’t be anything but angry red-faced sputtering as an answer anyway.”
If these folks were serious (instead of just parroting a new twist on an old fund raising scheme) they would be agitating to make divorce illegal. Admittedly the law enforcement impact would be extraordinary.
(old joke Q&A) “If you’re so unhappy did you ever consider a divorce.” “No. Murder, but never divorce.”
Patty C:
Thanks Patty for not telling us about your little side project in your home state. Now you owe me a recipe for some great almond cookies (need some medicinal alcohol and dried cherries-got tons left-in there too if possible)!! I got the urge for them after attending a wedding without them.
“It is so bad that supreme court justices are marrying goats now (at least that’s what I heard).”
And what’s worse, it was a baby goat! a baby boy goat! Ghod only knows what kind of pre-vert judge Obama’s going to appoint to the High Court this time: I just hope he appoints someone that is an actual citizen and doesn’t take the ‘High Court’ reference literally. I’m with the Republicans on this one- I will not tolerate another deviant, drug-addled, anti-opposite, communist, illegal alien appointment to the Court. Whoever he/she might be.
I am glad there are people who finally will admit just how bad the problem really is. It is so bad that supreme court justices are marrying goats now (at least that’s what I heard). I also heard (or is the herd?) it was a gay veternarian that performed the ceremony and goat cheese was served at the reception. The world is full of many dangers. At least some people are alive to them. PTL!
Jill,
And on’t forget those d**n greedy polygamists and divorced people; how dare the scarf up all those resources when people that only want to get married once have to go without those precious invitations and licenses! What? States can’t just add extra blank line and tell people to re-use and re-cycle? Shameful, just shameful!
Thank you, Jill! I intend to commit this to memory and recite it (crediting you, of course) every time someone insists that gay marriage will harm opposite marriage. Brilliant!
Queen of Sheba,
I think it works like the Jehovah’s Witnesses. There are only 144,000 spaces in heaven for the elect (which as I heard a comedian point out, probably makes recruiting more souls counter productive.
Now everyone knows there are only so many wedding chapels and Disney weddings to go around. Do you want some lousy gay couple taking up all the Elvis chaplins in Vegas? NO! Do you want gay couples taking all the coaches at Disney? NO! Well neither do I. The Elvis chaplins, their chapels and Disney are for heterosexuals. Further, what happens, if due to global warming, there are not enough trees to print wedding invitations? Who should get that paper? A bunch of gay people? I think not. And that is how homosexual marriage harms heterosexual marriage and I’ll thank you to remember that from now on!
Oh goody – something else for the GOP Congressional legislators to jump and shout about, something to become incensed about, something for them to inveigh against on the floor of the House and Senate, something else for them to speak out against in hate. They’ll make a huge to-do about this “threat to traditional marriage” in Congress, simply because D.C. wants to recognize marriages performed in states where they’re legal.
The GOP is so tiresome on this subject. And no one ever asks exactly how same-sex marriage “threatens” traditional marriages. Never. Of course there wouldn’t be anything but angry red-faced sputtering as an answer anyway.
Good on you Maine and D.C.