Maine today legalized same-sex marriage — joining D.C. this week in the historic act.
Gov. John Baldacci signed a bill almost immediately after its passage. He noted that the public may still reserve the decision — as they did in California.
The expanding number of states recognizing same-sex marriage may be the issue that the GOP is looking for in fighting the D.C. vote in Congress and seeking a constitutional amendment to rally its broken party.
For the full story, click here.
“The arguments about 2 and 3 men, women, goats etc. getting married are just as “valid” coming from a starting point of heterosexual marriage. It’s starts with the heterosexuals and ends with the goats!”
LOLOL. You beat me to it! It not only ends with the goats and group marriage but probably started there.
I saw an episode on one of the talk shows about polygamy about a year ago. The only insight I took away from it was that if you find yourself in a hole, stop digging. The extended segment dealt with the family dynamics of a man that had 4 wives. I had no pity for him. He was too foolish to have pity on. The vignettes with each of his wives was inter cut with his interview. His story was this in paraphrase:
‘I had one wife and a good job and was doing well and thought I was ready to expand my family as God and the tradition of my church would want of me. I took a second wife and even though my first wife said she had no objection they were jealous of each other and bickered all the time. I talked with other husbands and searched my soul and decided the best thing to do was take a third wife, one that was older and could provide guidance to the younger wives.
That didn’t work. It became a 2 against 1 situation and I couldn’t let that continue because I didn’t want to see any of my wives unhappy. I decided to take a fourth wife so at least the wife that was being picked on would have a friend and maybe with that many wives it would be a happier home.
Now it’s 2 against 2 and it’s just like a battlefield. I just don’t know what to do. My wives hate each other, I work all the time to support the family, the kids (and there were about 7 at that time) are unhappy….’
Srsly, I was laughing until I hyperventilated.
Two person (of any sexual combination) model for marriage (even if people practice serial marriage) has a lot going for it and makes legal responsibility when the marriage dissolves as easy as it can be to dissolve any property sharing relationship. Most people adhere to it more or less because the benefit outweighs the liability. I don’t mind the possibility of expanding the number, I just don’t think group dynamics makes it workable to have more than one spouse at a time. If people want to be foolish it’s ok with me, just don’t expect me to stop laughing when the hole is so deep you need a ladder to get out. Maybe the only thing the law should say about marriage is ‘no animals’ and people seeking license to marry should be old enough to give informed consent, maybe 28.
Former Dem,
Back up that with some facts. I am interested, I have my minnow bucket ready. I’ll reel you in fast for a fool.
Former Dem,
Do we even have an accounting from Haliburton? KBR? Blackwater? Where is the Billion dollars the soldiers found?
So your point is that 2010 we will know where the money is that is actually helping people? Hum.
Cheney reminds me of Nero when he burnt the town down just so he could rebuild it. Damn the people living and sleeping.
Former Dem, it alleged that Nero’s lover was his mother. do you and Cheney have something in common?
Alex, you are incorrect. In Canada, lawsuits have been filed against:
– Photographers
– Printers
– Florists
– Musicians
– Caterers
– Owners of halls or churches (individual, organization or denomination)
– Officiator at ceremonies (whether civil or clergy)
All of these people are facing litigation if they refuse for religious reasons to accommodate gay & lesbian weddings.
Obama’s Claim of “tracking every dime” of stimulus delayed to 2010
WASHINGTON — Although President Obama has vowed that citizens will be able to track “every dime” of the $787 billion stimulus bill, a government website dedicated to the spending won’t have details on contracts and grants and may not be complete until next spring — halfway through the program, administration officials said.
Recovery.gov now lists programs being funded by the stimulus money, but provides no details on who received the grants and contracts.
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/techpolicy/2009-05-06-stimulus_N.htm
Stimulus oversight left up to taxpayers; Most Democrats on House Stimulus Bill Oversight Committee are no shows at first hearing.
http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009/may/06/stimulus-oversight-left-up-to-taxpayers/
AY,
Don’t let me get in the way then. Carry on.
Gay people are already getting married in every state, including Vegas. It’s been 13 years since the most popular TV sitcom had a lesbian wedding.
Up here in Canada it’s been about 6 years since the court decision that it was unconstitutional to restrict marriage to heterosexual couples, and since then, well nothing really has happened. None of the bad effects that our right wing were predicting came to pass. No church has been sued because they didn’t want to marry someone. No one has tried to marry a goat. No backlast from people demanding their politicians “do something” — in 2006 62% of people considered it a settled matter.
In a few years the people who are fighting against gay marriage will be looked on the same as the people who opposed Loving v Virginia.
Former Dem,
Demjanjuk’s argument is he shouldn’t be extradited because he’s going to be tortured. Our Justice Department says, no, it’s not torture what they’re going to do to you.
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Sorry sir different war if you did not know. Hate to break the news to you. He is supposed to have been known as Ivan. He is supposed to have assisted in a number of Jewish deaths. He was or is thought to have entered this country under a false Id, claiming he was just a guard.
The Simon Wiesentham Center has fairly concrete evidence or he would not be going back to stand trial for his role Torturing the Jews. This has been going on for sometime now. Learn your history boy.
When I am wrong I will admit it can you?
The Bushies are worried that this will happen to them. Figure out when WWII ended and the Nuremberg Trial ended and you should see poor Deer Eyes in the Bushites.
Al-Marri’s sweetheart deal
May 6, 2009
NYT Editorial
Al-Marri, the terrorist sent to the United States by al-Qaeda to carry out a second wave of mass-murder attacks, was permitted by the Justice Department to plead guilty to a single count of material support to terrorism, maximum sentence 15 years’ imprisonment with the possibility that al-Marri may simply be given credit for time served and released.
The Obama administration has already outright released, with no trial, Binyam Mohammed, an al-Qaeda operative who, like al-Marri, was assigned by KSM to carry out mass-murder attacks in the United States after 9/11. Now, al-Marri has been given a plea agreement that grossly undersells the grave seriousness of his war crimes.
If Holder’s objective was to demonstrate that George W. Bush was wrong to detain al-Marri as an enemy combatant and that the criminal-justice system “works,” this sweetheart deal suggests the opposite.
Jihadists were not impressed by our strategy of fighting them in the courtroom through the 1990s.
Wonder what they’re thinking now.
John Demjanjuk is not going to get tortured says Eric Holder, our AG:
“John Demjanjuk is 89 years old. He is accused of being a Nazi concentration camp guard, Ivan the Terrible. He’s been charged with being at Sobibor, Treblinka, a couple places.
He has been requested to be extradited by Germany, to be tried in Germany for the same crime. Demjanjuk’s lawyers are saying to the Justice Department, (paraphrasing) “You cannot extradite John Demjanjuk to Germany, you cannot do it because he will be tortured.”
Eric Holder and the Justice Department have said to Germany and Demjanjuk, “Demjanjuk, you’re wrong, because Germany is going to use the same techniques on you that were proposed by Bybee and Yoo and Bradbury to interrogate Al-Qaeda terrorists.” In other words, the Justice Department is denying Demjanjuk’s requests to not be extradited because he will not be tortured, while saying that he will not be tortured, they are advocating that these three Bush lawyers be disbarred because they engaged in torture.
Demjanjuk’s argument is he shouldn’t be extradited because he’s going to be tortured. Our Justice Department says, no, it’s not torture what they’re going to do to you. They’re going to follow the same guidelines written by Bush lawyers for detainees at Guantanamo Bay.”
Despicable hypocrisy wouldn’t you say, Mr. TUUUURRRLLLEEEYYY?
Breakding:
Obama Administration Considering Turning Over 100 Yemeni Gitmo Detainees to Saudi Arabia
Good Lord, this is the “terrorist rehabilitation program” where they sit in classrooms for a few months and then are released if they swear an oath not to become a terrorist again – which most promptly ignore.
If a SINGLE United States Soldier is killed by one of these terrorists Obama is intent on releasing – it will be IMPEACHMENT TIME FOR OBAMA!
Former Dem,
You need sensitivity training. Maybe Depends too.
Al-Marri’s sweetheart deal
May 6, 2009
NYT Editorial
Al-Marri, the terrorist sent to the United States by al-Qaeda to carry out a second wave of mass-murder attacks, was permitted by the Justice Department to plead guilty to a single count of material support to terrorism, maximum sentence 15 years’ imprisonment with the possibility that al-Marri may simply be given credit for time served and released.
The Obama administration has already outright released, with no trial, Binyam Mohammed, an al-Qaeda operative who, like al-Marri, was assigned by KSM to carry out mass-murder attacks in the United States after 9/11. Now, al-Marri has been given a plea agreement that grossly undersells the grave seriousness of his war crimes.
If Holder’s objective was to demonstrate that George W. Bush was wrong to detain al-Marri as an enemy combatant and that the criminal-justice system “works,” this sweetheart deal suggests the opposite.
Jihadists were not impressed by our strategy of fighting them in the courtroom through the 1990s.
Wonder what they’re thinking now.
John Demjanjuk is not going to get tortured says Eric Holder, our AG:
“John Demjanjuk is 89 years old. He is accused of being a Nazi concentration camp guard, Ivan the Terrible. He’s been charged with being at Sobibor, Treblinka, a couple places.
He has been requested to be extradited by Germany, to be tried in Germany for the same crime. Demjanjuk’s lawyers are saying to the Justice Department, (paraphrasing) “You cannot extradite John Demjanjuk to Germany, you cannot do it because he will be tortured.”
Eric Holder and the Justice Department have said to Germany and Demjanjuk, “Demjanjuk, you’re wrong, because Germany is going to use the same techniques on you that were proposed by Bybee and Yoo and Bradbury to interrogate Al-Qaeda terrorists.” In other words, the Justice Department is denying Demjanjuk’s requests to not be extradited because he will not be tortured, while saying that he will not be tortured, they are advocating that these three Bush lawyers be disbarred because they engaged in torture.
Demjanjuk’s argument is he shouldn’t be extradited because he’s going to be tortured. Our Justice Department says, no, it’s not torture what they’re going to do to you. They’re going to follow the same guidelines written by Bush lawyers for detainees at Guantanamo Bay.”
Despicable hypocrisy wouldn’t you say, Mr. TUUUURRRLLLEEEYYY?
Trolls are nature’s way of telling you the authorities are scared about war crimes!
Former Dem,
No I am just asking if you are sexually repressed and you acting out your fantasies.
I was going to say suppressed but I figured you’d get too excited thinking it was a gay sexual position.
Oh man, the party of tolerance tries to throw insults at me by – intimating I am GAY!
LOL!
I think Former Dem should move to Maine and do some research on the gay marriage issue and report back to us in about 30 years.
Buddha,
I had that covered. He set himself up for this. lol