In Ramallah, West Bank, Palestinian police say that a family hanged a 15-year-old boy because they believed that he might be a collaborator with Israel. The police doubt that he was a collaborator due to his young age.
Police report that the boy was hanged by his own father, uncle, and cousin. One account says that the boy was tortured before being hanged.
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you guys put the “fun” into dysfunctional.
We have a sword fight going on,
The Italian Stallion v. Laughing Green Man.
So far I think the Stallion has been gelded.
T
AY,
No, you stepped in front of that one. Your BP is fine.
Buddha Is Laughing 1, June 17, 2009 at 4:29 pm
You really should to learn when to walk away though. It’ll be better for your blood pressure.
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You talking to me Buddha? lol. If so, I’ll leave you out too.
You really should to learn when to walk away though. It’ll be better for your blood pressure.
sicilian1 1, June 17, 2009 at 3:36 pm
as to Buddha,
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If you don’t like his posts may I make a suggestion: “DO NOT READ THE DAMN THINGS.’ If your Voyeurism, is or becomes too compulsive turn your computer off. If you can’t not, not read his post then get your parents to install a block to the WordPress site. It can be done. If you cannot control your self call someone and tell you need help. You may not meet the definition of the McNaughton test but I am sure they will have nice people to help you rearrange your life.
The bottom line is we have enough Troll dribble and some infighting amongst us that we will gang upon stupid. And your dialogue is stupid. Do you have a pet? If so maybe it can sign you up for a version of America’s Funniest People Tricks. Because you are not too funny here.
Rave on, lunatic.
Buddha,
Your the one who continuously shows your ignorance by throwing Christianity into the debate as a strawman when I never brought up Christianity at all, let alone defend it.
Your rhetorical trick to transpose your deficiencies on others only further exposes your ignorance and inability to argue on topic.
Buddha
I do NOT value anything you say either. I have only pointed out you’re continued lack of knowledge on the subject and how your personal attacks which was the first thing you did to respond to my original comment.
I have NEVER once defended Christianity. I have NOT promoted a Christian viewpoint. An atheist could see the hypocracy in the Arab/Muslim argument. No matter who or what you believe in an objective analysis will only allow an intelligent individual to see the fallacy that the Arab/Muslim argument is founded upon.
It is you who has let your personal bias’ cloud the issue. You are the one who continuously brings up Christianity. You will NOT drag me into that false argument because that is NOT what I’m talking about.
Once again, stay on topic. When you start pointing fingers with the “what about them” argument you are proving your ignorance in regards to argumentation. But that seems likely because most ignorants pull that rhetorical trick to try and protect their ignorance and promote their own views.
It’s funny how you try to transpose your reality on me. It is you who are exposed as the ignorant you are and drown in your own words every time you post a comment.
Your only defense for the Arab/Muslim viewpoint is to slam Christians. If you want to be an Arab/Muslim apologist then fine but bring something of substance to the table. Excusing the Arab/Muslim position by ripping Christianity does no service to your point of view.
But your inferior posts prove your ignorance on the topic so all you can do is try to take everyone’s eye off the ball. Any intelligent individual can read right through your tactics.
You are so blinded by your arrogance that you can not see how unknowledgable you really are. Or maybe that’s another of your rhetorical ploys to turn transpose your deficiencies on others
Mike S,
All my “hyperbole” is real. I’m all for debating topics with anyone. It’s the one who throw around dispersions like “troll” (Not you, I’ll give you your due for keeping things intelligent and mostly on topic).
It’s the “troll” crowd who ruin everything because they do not have the intelligence to debate the topics so they try to confuse the issue with personal attacks.
I’m not intentionally promoting my site but since I have a serious position on the topic, sometimes it’s easier to just make that reference than battle the personal attacks and off topic issues.
Gary,
Well, we have different ideas of “coherent, measured and substantive,” but that’s to be expected. I never thought you were defending the abusive rants. I was just explaining why I considered him a pseudo-troll.
sicilian 1,
Half hearted apology, but accepted conditionally. As far as Wiki goes, while aware of its flaws I don’t share your disdain. It can be useful for getting quick historical dates for instance. I have stated elsewhere, however, that I normally eschew quoting other material to back up my suppositions. I have an iconoclastic point of view informed by intensive reading and experience, that I am happy with and my being happy with it is what is important to me.
Yes I did make up pseudo-Palestinians years ago as a means of discussing the subject in terms everyone could understand and with the knowledge that the term “Palestinians” prior to 1967 denoted Israeli’s and this new nomenclature was instituted in a PR campaign to de-legitimize Israel.
Finally, I can’t help thinking that the only reason you are here is to promote your own blog. While that is of course a viable option for someone, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
I’m here because I treasure this site and the opportunity it gives me to interact and exchange ideas with some very smart people, while in turn having my own ideas tested. I don’t mind being proven wrong, since that too adds to my knowledge of self and the world. You are here I think to incite and thereby drum up interest. Allowable, but it opens your writing up to questions of how much of the hyperbole is real.
You assume I value any assessment you have to offer concerning me or anything else, Sicilian. Yes, yes, it was sad when your little Christian propaganda scree bubble got burst and I made you look like the foolish little troll you are, but you should really get over it. You jumped in the deep water here. The water you drown in flows from your very own words and that must be a bitter taste but the more you malign me, the more you look like exactly what I say you are, Propaganda Troll. If you don’t want your boilerplate language turned against you, don’t use it or get better templates. Your choice. Just as it’s my choice to keep on laughing at you, oh blinded one. But you feel free to do whatever it is you think you are trying to accomplish. It’s not working out like you think.
Buddha,
I know all about sources and references and I would NEVER be caught dead touting a wiki source NO matter my desperation.
As far as besmirching, Siddhartha is rolling over in his grave over the fraud you’re perpetrating with your tagline
Mike S,
No one should ever be proud of being a shameless sychophant to anyone. Especially to someone so lacking of any insights as Buddha.
I admitedly jumped the gun when I saw Buddha’s name at the top of the post. In my desire to expose what little he had to offer I made a mistake.
As far as the article, it was very insightful and well thought out. That is what caused my initial confusion because I knew Buddha was incapable of coming even within throwing distance of something of that type.
I did like that article and from your previous posts I do NOT feel you get your source material. But as I said before, please do NOT promote a wiki web source even if you do use it. When people see that wiki source it eats into the credibility you have on the topic.
As for my CV, I didn’t feel that it was neccessary to give a long resume’ to try and give my credentials. Most of my “expert” knowledge on a subject is delivered in the body of my blogs. I do it that way because I want to make sure those who are reading one of my blogs knows where my “expert” opinion is coming from. Also I mentioned in my cv that most of what I comment on is from first hand experience. I’m sure people don’t care to read a year-by-year resume’ Like I said, if they read a specific blog then they see my credentials on the topic are placed there.
But just for you I will update my cv. Point well taken. That is a legitimate argument.
As for the “expert opinion” tag. It was done purposely because it is my “expert opinion” and it was also done to intetionally light a little fire under those who read it. Seeing how you reacted, my mission was accomplished.
If the pseudo-Palestinian reference came from you then I stand corrected. Kudo’s, it is a very clever term and if it was you who created it then I give you full credit and ownership and I mean that sincerely.
You:
bespeaks someone who in conversation doesn’t listen to the speaker, but rather spends that downtime thinking their rebuttal.
If you saw I qualified my attack by telling stating that the DISCLAIMER prior to the mention of wiki was NOT a sufficient excuse for promoting wiki.
I would hope you would honor what you accuse others of doing. I did in fact read the preceeding statement and I did acknowledge that in my post and I did then say that I did NOT feel that it was an excusable disclaimer. Go back and read the posts and you will see that I am telling the truth.
Yes, my writing IS purposely meant to incite. I will not deny that. I take many “politically incorrect” positions. I do NOT try to hide that. My style is not meant to sugar-coat. I’m going to say what’s on my mind whether anyone likes it or not. I MORE than WELCOME constructive criticism and in fact encourage it. If someone has a problem with something I said then they should feel free to rebut BUT they must stay on the topic at hand. Any dishonest attempts to confuse the issue will be addressed and dissected WITHOUT arguing for or against the red herring thrown into the argument.
I certainly do NOT know everything, my interesting life experiences taught me that BIG TIME. But that does not mean I can’t have a strong opinion that I feel willing to express as I see fit.
The vitriol in my posts are NOT unhelpful to the cause. I am asking everyone, especially the Arab/Muslims to accept the truth about their history since it is that distorted history on which they base all their gripes, terrorism, beefs, resentments and hurt feelings upon, to name a number of other things.
The international community has bent over backwards for the Arab/Muslims. My point will always be that the fact that the Arab/Muslims insist on the world accepting their distorted history as part of any and all “peace-processess” (sic?) is what is causing the problem. It should be the Arab/Muslims becoming more reasonable and humble and accepting that ABSOLUTELY every word out of their Prophets mouth was NOT the truth.
If they want to kill in the name of God, fine. Followers of all faiths have been doing it from the beginning of time. Obviously that does NOT make it right but you’ll never be able to stamp out fanaticism of any stripe. The problem exaccerbates itself when it’s based on an unequivocal distortion that not only have the Arab/Muslim world been brainwashed into believing but insist on the whole world believing and if they do not they deserve to die.
Please, this problem is very serious because Islam isn’t some “loony” sect confined to some outpost somewhere in the world with one messianic leader spewing all kinds of garbage. That kind of nonsense can be contained. But when you have a worldwide movement gaining more radicalized converts everyday then it becomes a big problem.
Again I apologize for not giving you the pseudo-Palestinian credit. Being an egoist in reference to that term is not something you should apologize for. If I came up with something so clever I would want the ownership of it also.
I also commend you in your honor because by insisting on credit for the psuedo-Palestinian term you fully exposed yourself to me and anyone else as the wikipedia promoter. I respect that sincerely.
I also congratulate you on your intuativeness (sic?) to be able to see my human needs for attention from reading my blogs. You have obviously visited my blog and read some articles. Your patronage is greatly appreciated
The first rule of successful evolution is “Pay Attention.”
On the upside, there’s probably a Darwin Award in your future, Sicilian.
So you got that going for you.
Which is nice.
“I was insulted more by the ignorance of Buddha’s sychophants than even by Buddha’s own ignorance.”
sicilian 1,
As a shameless Buddha sycophant I take umbrage at you characterizing me as ignorant. I think your presence here is less to partake of the community and more to promote your own website. Incidentally, I notice at your website, which you subtitle “Expert opinion and commentary,” your offer no CV of any sort save that:
“I have lived an interesting and full life. Been there, done that, around the world and back and I don’t front.”
Well, I too believe that I’ve lived and interesting full life, been there done that, but except for fields I’ve actually worked in (which I do indicate within the particular post I’m claiming expertise)I don’t grandiosely proclaim my expert status. The use of “expert” occurs generally when someone wants to dazzle with a sobriquet, rather than make their case fully. Given your rather skimpily detailed CV, there really is no way that I can assess whether you qualify as an expert in anything, save for what you write.
Prior to assessing your writing though I think we should first deal with your reading comprehension. To wit: the wiki entries and the use of pseudo-Palestinians did not come from Buddha, it came from me. So you have been attacking the wrong person due to your inability to follow this thread properly. To me that bespeaks someone who in conversation doesn’t listen to the speaker, but rather spends that downtime thinking of their rebuttal. A poor way to learn and an even poorer way to discuss.
As too the Wiki links they were preceded with this statement from me:
“Below are two Wiki links on these issues. Being Wiki of course one has to meditate on its’ accuracy and lack of bias.Given my laptop situation I did the backup quick and dirty, though from my experiences and complete readings I think they are mostly valid and would be agreed to generally.”
I had opened that post alluding to the fact that my laptop access was then limited. So your Wiki aspersions were unfounded completely since I obviously understand Wiki’s reliability, or lack of same, and was up front about it.
As to your writing I have found it both here and on your website to be hyperbolic and purposely meant to incite. This seems to be a situation your are proud of, which leads me to question your ability to experience and absorb life. That is because to me the beginning of wisdom occurs when a person starts realizing that they don’t know everything. It gives one a certain humility about their certitudes. In particular regarding your support of Israel, on another thread on the ME I read your various posts and while I had much to agree with you on the situation, I pleaded with you to desist because the vitriol of your posts was to me actually harmful to the cause.
Finally, if you wish to trade barbs with, or attack anyone here it would be ever so helpful if you actually attacked the person making the statements. In this instance I found it rather disheartening that I was being attacked and the attacker didn’t even know my name. Egoist that I may be, even negative recognition, at least gives me the message that my stuff is being read. Attention is one of the prime human needs, as I think your blog and your writing here indicates. At least we are getting your name right.
Buddha,
Badda boom, badda bing
Do you know the difference between “smart” and “intelligent”? Are you familiar with concept of varied standards of proof as appropriate to a forum may be supplemented with additional sources when required? Do you know that around these parts the regulars all know the difference between proper cites, “reference” and “general reference”? Are you capable of anything other than personal attacks? Is that the best you’ve got?
Rhetorical.
You should really move along now, little trollsy. You’re just besmirching the reputation of Sicily at this point.
sicilian:
why are you apologizing you did not call anyone a child molester, you had a difference of opinion about source material.
I think Wikipedia is fine for a lot of general knowledge but you must check it out if it is important.
Hearty debate is good for the society. Nothing wrong with an intellectual round house to the head.