The Montgomery County police conducted a raid on a home roughly a quarter of a mile in the territory of Washington, D.C. It appears that the Montgomery County police rented themselves and their vehicles to a television production company for a show called “Prison Wives” and proceeded to conduct the raid without notifying the District of Columbia.
D.C. residents were terrified when officers with guns drawn and police cars blaring raided a home in Northwest D.C.
This was all done for a cable show for Investigation Discovery on women who fall in love and marry prisoners.
I am not sure what is more disturbing: the fact that police are now rented out like cheap extras or that a raid is conducted with county cars for a cheap cable show. They are not alone in this theater of the absurd, here.
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Do you ever get tired of the droning hatred rolling around inside your little head?
1) Venom does not make you right.
2) When defeated, it’s never a good idea to run about screaming about how you’re the victor unless you just want to look like a loon.
3) Wishful thinking is not logic.
4) Attacking someone like AY who has tried to help you is about as an attractive personality trait as humping dead animals.
5) mespo has your number, felon. You’re a wannabe.
But please, keep raving on about how you’ve bested people you clearly haven’t. Keep raving about it until the men with the funny coat with sleeves that tie in the back come and give you a ride to where the nice nurse has some pills and glass of juice for you.
LEARN
WHEN
TO
GIVE
UP.
Because performing the same action over and over and expecting a different result is one of the definitions of insanity.
But then again, apparently learning isn’t your strong suit. Even if it’s learning when to cut bait. It is clear that you got caught, Mr. Felon, and now it’s easy to see why. You’re clearly too stupid and/or too crazy to know when to stop OR you’re being paid to be a contrarian illogical fool. Either way, that still spells “loser”.
There is no way you look like a winner in any of this, sport. Try as you might and delude yourself all you want, but from an objective standard you lost a long, long time ago, troll. And your mouth is the steam shovel that keeps on digging you further down into that pit of defeat.
But please continue. It’s your right. Just as it’s our right to smack down your foolishness. If you go hunting bear, either don’t be surprised when one eats you or take up rabbit hunting instead.
AY,
It affects me b/c I CARE about other living breathin human beings. I know that EVERYBODY loves someone AND SOMEONE loves them.
Every human is due by the fact that they live and breath, DIGNITY, RESPECT and EQUAL OPPORTUNITY.
Those are concepts you only read about in your theorum’s. You have proven that you do NOT really believe them. Like the good progressive you are you only talk the talk, you could NEVER walk the walk.
After what I revealed, and especially about those poor souls who’s lives are ruined from falling through the cracks you should be outraged.
The fact that that goes right over your head proves you are a hypocrite. You do NOT have the insight to existentially examine yourself.
With the prior post I had fun toying w/you progressives. But now I am filled w/disdain and contempt for your hypocricy and your inability to even see it for yourselves.
sicilian1 to AY,
“Another ignorant.”
I am what you think I am. I will not try and change your mind on that either.
“I NEVER said I was trying to feed my family by selling drugs. Get the quotes correct.
July 7, 2009 @9:09
“some kid selling bags of dope in the ghetto to put food on his table””
So one is to infer that you were not referring to yourself, how interesting. But do I care. Not for a NY minute.
“”I was talikung [sp] in reference to over charging defendants who have minimal involvement the giving them excess time that is undeserving when they are nobodies. And how a prosecutor’s ability to sleep at night after doing that is an abomination.”
I could not agree more. But how does that affect you again?
“Take my comments in their context. And stop being an iggnorant.[sp]”
May clear you comments and one can place them in context.
“If you’re going to quote me quote me right and in context.”
Make sure you say what you mean and mean what you say. Is that not your credo? Then do it and don’t dance like a sissy.
“Refer to:
July 7, 2009 @9:09pm.”
My ending comments and may the Yankee Flipper find your ass before the big boy behind the door.
Progressives,
You expose your hypocricy again.
I take a soft on crime pro-defendant stance and you all rave against me.
That is b/c all your populus mumbo-jumbo is just that. You sit up in your ivy-towers talking a good game untill you’re really hit w/the facts then you expose your deep-seeded intolerant biases. You never practice what you preach.
You will rationalize and manipulate your reasoning.
Moulton didn’t say anything different than what I said. And I’m certain you all agree with him. But like the progressives that you are you only REALLY believe in theories and using arguments to demonize. When a face is put to these suppossed beliefs you suppossedly hold, you’re true bias, predjudice and intolerance rears it’s ugly head.
I am just honest. I never denied anything I did or about myself, I took full responsibility from the outset. I admitted that a criminal of my caliber and my co-defendants were all still able to “work” our plea’s. But that does NOT make the system right, it does NOT excuse it for it’s corruption.
After serving a fed bid and seeing the absolute humanity that has been thrown to the wolves, my heart cries for these souls. I was lucky b/c I had a good lawyer and some co-defendants that could counsel me through the process. But what about those that don’t and are just another notch on some zealous merciless prosecutor’s belt? They are still people too. They still have loved ones that care about them and who’s lives will be eternally affected b/c that loved one got locked up for more years than they deserved.
Thonk about that you hypocritical progressives the next time you’re patting yourselves on the back for having so many “feel good” thoughts.
iggnorant
That about sums it up.
AY,
Another ignorant.
I NEVER said I was trying to feed my family by selling drugs. Get the quotes correct.
July 7, 2009 @9:09
“some kid selling bags of dope in the ghetto to put food on his table”
I was talikung in reference to over charging defendants who have minimal involvement the giving them excess time that is undeserving when they are nobodies. And how a prosecutor’s ability to sleep at night after doing that is an abomination.
Take my comments in their context. And stop being an iggnorant.
If you’re going to quote me quote me right and in context.
Refer to:
July 7, 2009 @9:09pm.
Mespo,
I do NOT live in the streets. I wouldn’t be blogging here if I did.
I was an all-around criminal. An “earner” of the highest degree. There was NO institution that was out of my league.
I lived by a code of the highest manhood, something a weak man like yourself could never come w/in hailing distance of.
You can not impune my credibility by trying to denigrate me. I am a true renaisance man. I have repeatedly broken down your lack of logic and rhetoric, your inferior grasp of the profession in which you practice and that your standards of honor are non-existent. I have destroyed you in all arena’s.
Now don’t you have some clients to sell down the river? Get to, chop-chop, you annoy me w/your inferior challenges.
Carlyle Moulton,
You are so right about the system grinding to a halt if everyone asserted there right to a trial. The feds have so many cases and bullsh*t ones at that that they could never handle the overload.
But they know this that is why they play so many tricks in charging people.
The fact that they get away w/denying everyone bail is part of the problem. They talk about Guantanomo. Guys sit in lock-up for years. I’ve known guys who went through pre-trial for 3, 4, 5 years, filling motions and answering motions filed by the feds. Then the feds finally get them to plead and it’s all time served.
I’ve known guys denied bail on some bullsh*t drug case that hung around the system for years then beat the case and get released from court. But what happened to all those lost years?
Then they just over charge people who have minimal involvement in the case for the express purpose of flipping them. These guys may sit in the joint waiting it out for a couple of years looking at decades behind bars b/c they been over charged when finally they flip b/c they’ve cracked. If some guys hang tough and the feds really want to sqeeze some info out of them, they’ll just hit them w/the old reindictment.
You’re absolute ly right abt the differences. Where is the justice when they say ‘take this plea but go to trial and lose and you’ll get this’ and the difference is DECADES worth of time? How can they justify that? It’s only about power.
s1:
“I NEVER said I was innocent.”
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Thanks for proving my point that you are an undercharged felon seeking “street cred” among your betters here on this blog. Unfortunately for you, most of us on this blog do not live in the streets and have no illusions that a tough guy reputation on those mean streets makes you anything more than a thug. By the way, I wasn’t your lawyer so I have no obligation to advocate or even see your point of view. In this instance, I am merely of member of the public whose standards you have criminally offended and never fully answered for. Spew elsewhere.
Buddha,
One can only do what one is capable of doing at the time. Sil1 has a lot of anger issues which are evident in his writing. Maybe he is incapable of resolving. If you remember he stated yesterday that he was just trying to feed his family by selling drugs. I am unsure what kind, if weed only, it should not be criminal. That is my opinion only.
People with power or lack of generally attack rather than speak their peace. Maybe he will get it maybe he won’t. I can ignore him when he goes off on his/her tangents.
MESPO,
Once again you were exposed as a big FRAUD.
Your quotes:
“pressured into a wrongful decision by the big bad feds. Big boy, indeed. Sure, I’d love to see the pre-sentence report for all the crimes you could’ve beaten butdidn’t. You’re a criminal worthy of the scorn most people feel about you.”
I could go on. But that surely sounds to me like a “CONSERVATIVE”, “REPUBLICAN”, “INTOLERANT”, “ALL CRIMINALS ARE GUILTY”
You are a hypocrite and do not deserve to be representing anyone charged w/a crime. I feel bad b/c you are doing your clients a diservice.
If they only knew the arrogance you possess.
No, you wouldn’t want to see my PSI b/c you would never be able to understand that a PSI is NOT an indictment. It’s only prepared by probation to “dirty” someone up w/allegations that they can’t prove b/c if they could they would’ve included them in the indictment.
You are an insignificant human being who is of no importance in the grand scheme of anything. At least I had the conviction to follow in the footsteps of great men who refused to be shackled by a corrupt and oppressive society.
But that is something you could never wrap your mind around.
So not only have I exposed your ignorance, arrogance and hypocricy, I have exposed your inferior grasp of certain concepts of the criminal justice system but that I have lived by a higher standard of nobility.
AY,
It appears your effort was wasted.
MESPO,
You are such an ignorant, arrogant bordering on being a complete moron.
I schooled you on logic, now let me school you on the law.
I never said I was framed as you quoted.
I was guilty of the charges leveled at me, probably even more so than charged.
However, in the criminal justice system, it is not a matter of guilt or innocence BUT a matter of being guilty OR not guilty.
Having the opinion that you could “beat the case” has NOTHING to do w/whether you are innocent or guilty BUT whether you can “BEAT” the evidence the government presents against you.
To a man, our lawyers and every defendant knew the case was weak and felt we could “beat” the charges. But knowing the way the feds operate and how they go for blood, we decided to take the lesser course of valor and just took the plea’s. The feds were happy b/c they got to play “hero” and mount their trophies, while we got to fight another day.
As a lawyer it is an abomination that you do NOT understand, as you’ve so clearly demonstrated, that you do NOT understand the concept between a defendant feeling they can “beat” the charges and being as you term framed.
Your inability to grasp that concept makes it clear that you should immediately hand in your law liscene to the local board of bar overseers. B/c if the ever got their hands on your discourse then matched your identity then they would move for immediate disbarrment.
Just for clarity:
I NEVER said I was innocent. The charges were NOT probably reflective of the total involvement of all the defendants. However, in reference to the charges against us, the evidence was defintely lacking. The fact that the feds offered us plea’s so readily and quickly is a teastament to that fact. However w/the feds knowing that we knew how the system worked and knowing that our lawyers were experienced w/these types of cases knew they could give us a quick offer to get their pound of flesh and keep the corrupt system moving.
What did they accomplish? except a big dog-and-pony show. But what about those other poor souls that don’t have lawyers who know how to operate through the system? What about those poor souls who the feds are scared of in the least? The poor souls who don’t have high profile cases where the feds are just looking for a little symbolism? Against these poor souls the feds show no mercy b/c they have nothing to lose so they can over charge them and then stick it to them w/no remorse.
CM,
I used to feel the same way about the whole plea bargaining system. However, flawed as it may be, it’s only as bad as the individual prosecutors. Many do abuse the plea to boost their numbers, but some do take their jobs and commitment to the Constitution more seriously than others. The sad fact is yes, there is room for prosecutorial misdeeds in the area pf plea bargaining. But the answer isn’t to end the plea as it does indeed have a strong judicial efficiency component in cases with overwhelming evidence where the state’s interest (removing a criminal from society or situations where they can harm others) is just as well served by the conviction for a lesser offense. That saves a lot on money. It’s a Batman sized solution for a Superman sized problem. The answer is to put abusive prosecutors in prison. Try to mediate out the abuse to gain an operational efficiency from an inherently inefficient mechanism.
But it’s all probably a moot point.
In light of recent developments, this is all going to end in rebellion, slow rot (most likely given the cattle like mentality our public schools have created at the government’s doing) and/or eventually a massive attack by a foreign power anyway. The morons in DC have guaranteed that by perpetually selling out to K St. And since Obama has coddled right up next to the fascists and is towing their line on everything from health care reform to restoring the rule of law and putting the Bush criminals in prison, it’s going to happen sooner rather than later. At this rate, within my lifetime, there will be massive upheaval in the United States. Obama still has time to move in the right direction, but as of now he has has proven himself nothing more than a better spoken Bush – the same fascist bullshit just in a different bag coming from the same group of egoistic venal scumbags (politicians as whole). That’s what you get when you have a two party system and the choices are scumbags and slightly different scumbags for your choices. Well, the good news and the bad news is We the People outnumber ALL government employees by 10 to 1. If even half our numbers decided the were done for tomorrow, there is no army in the world that could stop it. And here’s what I know about human nature – when you get 10 people together and one of them perpetually steals, cheats and lies? Eventually the other 9 are going to beat him down or kill him. That’s just how we are wired as a species. It’s the myopia caused by their collective mental defects of narcissism and sociopathic service themselves above all other considerations that keeps the fools on the Hill from seeing exactly how badly they are setting themselves up for disaster.
Sicilian1 has a valid point. The system of plea bargaining is inherently corrupt and allows corruption and incompetence among law enforcement and the prosecutors to spread. To get convictions authorities need neither competence nor honesty.
The fact is that the US in particular (and other Anglo nations are following at some distance in its wake), has committed itself to far more law and order than it can afford. There are two many laws making too many things illegal, especially mind altering substances. If everyone who was innocent in that narrow and technical sense that they did not perform the actions constituting the crime refused to plea bargain and insisted on a trial the system would grind to a halt. Plea bargaining is the solution adopted to avoid this. The problem with it is that the difference between the sentence for the crime that a defendant is charged with if he goes to trial and the sentence for the crime to which he agrees to plead is far too great. This means that an “innocent” defendant who chooses to assert his right to a trial at which he is more likely than not to be convicted is acting irrationally.
The system can ration actual prosecutions to those who refuse to plea and concentrate all resources on them to convict them and give them enormous sentences.
There really needs to be a limit to the sentence difference between the charge threatened for a trial and that offered for a plea to say no more than 20% so that “innocent” defendants have an incentive to go to trial. There also needs to be full transparency in the plea bargain negotiations all records for which need to be public so that the coercion implicit in any huge difference between plea sentence and trial sentence is visible.
Ideally criminal defendants should form a union and go on a plea-bargain strike. The problem here is that the lawyer for each defendant has a duty to that defendant alone and would have to advise his own client to defect from the strike and take the plea offered.
Plea bargaining means the authorities never have to admit error as they can always get someone whom they have wrongly prosecuted to take a plea to something and still have a good chance of winning at trial if he refuses even if there is no credible evidence since juries chosen from the respectable classes always have an extreme pro-prosecution bias.
roflmao
I should be ashamed of myself. But, I am, am, am not.
AY:
“Since Michael died who is now going to blow Bubbles?”
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Certainly a mystical question. Doris Day, maybe?
Buddha and mespo,
Since Michael died who is now going to blow Bubbles?