To the delight of civil libertarians and libertarians alike, the Canadian courts have been leading the world in dealing with conflicts between privacy principles and morality legislation. I am serving as an expert in the review of Canadian polygamy laws in British Columbia. In the meantime, the Ontario Superior Court may allow three prostitution laws to die this Saturday.
In September, the Court struck down the laws. The federal government is charging that this is nothing short of a “social experiment unprecedented in this country.” However, it is also a frank acknowledgment that consenting adults came engage in sex for money as a consensual choice. Currently, an individual can have sex with any number of partners but can be arrested if they accept anything of value in exchange for sex. They can receive gifts as part of a “relationship” no matter how fleeting but not as payment.
The Court previously noted that criminal laws force prostitutes in the shadows where they are easy prey for abuse and even homicides. Once legal, protections and regulations can apply to the world’s oldest profession. With the demise of the laws, street walking will be legal.
Source: Star
Jonathan Turley
OK so here we are
HenMan — against fining johns
Kay Sieverding — in favor of fining johns
Tony C –prefer not to take public position
I recommend all readers vote in private, to prevent intimidation or vilification over your vote. I marked an X on my screen but my vote changes with my scrolling position. I think this voting machine is broken.
So HenMan, that means you are against the idea of criminalizing or fining men for requesting prostitution right?
Kay-
Here’s my vote.
X
Since we have this opportunity to debate public policy that could really affect our society, let’s have a vote:
http://action.web.ca/home/catw/attach/Ekberg.pdf
Are you for or against proposing similar laws to the successful Northern Europe policy of don’t legalize prostitution, provide testing for sexually transmitted diseases, and fine any person who attempts to purchase sex $500?
____ Support
____ Against
____ Don’t know
Tony C,
Warren was my kind of guy … sincerely meant … no joke
Let’s have a vote:
http://action.web.ca/home/catw/attach/Ekberg.pdf
Are you for or against proposing similar laws to the successful Northern Europe policy of don’t legalize prostitution, provide testing for sexually transmitted diseases, and fine any person who attempts to purchase sex $500?
____ Support
____ Against
____ Don’t know
@Blouise: Thank you. I think a yellow-rubber-glove with the middle finger raises should be the CUYOSA logo; if only we could find and artistic CUYOSA sympathizer…
Of course, CUYOSA is not against private individuals engaging in the de-shitification of their own toilets or even a stranger’s toilet, we are opposed to people being *paid* for de-shitification of toilets, even if they volunteer for the job, because obviously they don’t know the world of shit they are letting themselves in for.
For your private efforts, Warren recommends you find yourself a loose rubber band, which you can pilfer from the supply room but don’t take too many because somebody is probably counting them, and pop that around the top of the glove sleeve so as to not get any what not running down your glove into the digits. But your hand is likely to get clammy so let it out of there once a while to breathe.
More good advice: Do the General’s bathroom last (It’s just a civilian office building, but the penthouse suite had a private bathroom Warren called the General’s bathroom), that way you can make a point of taking a crap in it during the course of your shift. Also the mirrors are good in there to give yourself a haircut with the General’s scissors.
Let’s have a vote:
Are you for or against the successful Northern Europe policy of don’t legalize prostitution, provide testing for sexually transmitted diseases, and fine any person who attempts to purchase sex $500?
____ Support
____ Against
____ Don’t know
AY,
Yep
Blouise,
It is indeed a good morning….I can honestly say that I have looked at life from both sides now……and for some reason a spiritual epiphany occurred….I am convinced that Kay walks around with a Bow-Tie that is really a camera……
Let’s have a vote:
Are you for or against the successful Northern Europe policy of don’t legalize prostitution, provide testing for sexually transmitted diseases, and fine any person who attempts to purchase sex $500?
____ Support
____ Against
____ Don’t know
AY,
Good morning AY, you are up and at ’em early!
I have no idea who Pimp Daddy is but that he/she decided to ride to Buddha’s side for whatever reason is an act worthy of praise.
Tony C,
Honest to god laugh out loud at 8am my husband thinks I’m nuts funny!
I want to submit that I have cleaned at least four toilets every week for the last 44 years and even though I have enjoyed the services of a perfectly wonderful woman who helps with the household cleaning for the last 35 years, toilets have remained my responsibility because I am a germ nut.
During all those years of muttering at those whose aim occasionally misses that huge bowl, never once did I realize that there was a group of rubber-gloved souls out there free-formed and flowing.
I raise my brush to Warren as I shout his immortal words: “Hi ho Tommy, my partner in GRIME!”
@Blouise: For the (fictional) record: CUYOSA is an organization dedicated to outlawing the commercial toilet-cleaning industry because the work is degrading (get on your knees degrading), a danger to the health of the workers, and in general a miserable, disgusting dead-end occupation.
CUYOSA is conceived by a former toilet-slave (me) that escaped this so-called “industry” after being forced to service 50 toilets (and 20 urinals) EVERY NIGHT (MWF anyway) for several months, and dedicated to the proposition that every adult should be required by law to pick up a god damn brush once in a while. However that makes a poor acronym, so CUYOSA stands for Clean Up Your Own Shit, Asshole.
I dedicate this organization to Warren, my 62 year old, WW II battle veteran, toilet-cleaning mentor for whom I had great affection, despite the fact that for the semester I had this job he called me “Tommy” and greeted me every night with the gleeful phrase: “Hi ho Tommy, my partner in GRIME!”
CUYOSA’s official policy is that nobody represents it ever, not even the founder, so if anybody claims to do so they are misinformed as to their role in CUYOSA. But since nobody speaks for CUYOSA, we couldn’t do much about it. We do have unpaid volunteers (like myself) that can tell you what CUYOSA probably thinks.
You are free to speak as a friend of CUYOSA sympathetic to their cause. Or as James M. does, run a rogue branch of CUYOSA. Rogue branches are welcome to advocate for other causes that fall under the general metaphorical umbrella of demanding that able-bodied rich people clean their own god damn toilets once in a while. We believe this will require a constitutional amendment.
However, keep in mind we do act as our own attorneys under the theory that if we do not understand words or clauses in a law we are free to ignore them or insert words that would seem to make more sense, on the grounds presented herewith: This IS a free country damn it!!!
That was funny….so who is Pimp Daddy……I have an inquiring mind I wanna know? The defender for Buddha….a Pimp…..I suppose Buddha has one) a Friend 2) people were/are getting tired of the person with the tin foil hat 3) the wizard of oz has not come on yet……
I must admit, it was good…..I smiled….yep…
Tony C,
I’m full of shit … “Porn For Dummies” is a book Buddha made up for me since I never get the dirty jokes. Every time I don’t understand something (clean or dirty) I claim it’s listed on such and such a page in Porn For Dummies. For awhile I stayed in the dark claiming my grandkids had swiped the book.
I was going to hold a contest asking everyone to make up words that would fit your anagram and then ask you to declare a winner. The problem for me was I couldn’t come up with anything clever for CU … for YOSA I was going to use Your Own Sorry Ass. So I went for my old fall back, Porn For Dummies.
Like I said … sometimes I’m just full of it. 🙂
@Blouise: Oh really? What did CUYOSA mean? I made it up on the spot, honestly, but I’d love to have an alternate meaning.
Buddha,
I hesitate to say this but it was the first thing that jumped into my mind … “That’a because most trolls are pimps and this thread is not a moneymaker for them.”
Having wrestled my “Porn For Dummies” book away from my teenage grandson, I found CUYOSA on pg. 549 …..