We have previously discussed how leaders in both the United States and Europe have focused on atheists and secularists as one of the greatest threats facing the free world. Rep. Trent Franks (R-Ariz.) seemed to take this to a new level in arguing this week that if the nation did not reaffirm “In God We Trust” as our national motto, we are inviting anarchy and accepting that we are nothing but “worm food.”
Of course, the motto has only been embraced since 1956 and we seemed to do pretty well through the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries. Moreover, not having a motto based on the recognition of faith does not mean that we are a country of faithless citizens. Indeed, there are plenty deeply religious secularists.
However, Franks went to the floor to say “Is God God? Or is man God? In God do we trust, or in man do we trust?” Otherwise, he warned “we should just let anarchy prevail because, after all, we are just worm food. So indeed we have the time to reaffirm that God is God and in God do we trust.”
Of course, no one was asking to rescind the motto, but the legislative debate is part of the increasing faith-based politics that remains the rage this year.
Source: Washington Post
Martingugino,
““In God We Trust” should be “In Money We Trust”, although that trust will soon be shown to be misplaced.”
You have no idea how correct you are, but sadly i doubt you truly know why.
Lotta,
“Blouise, IMO, what rules there are only apply to the little people and as the arrests of the OWS folks show, the rules are made up as the powers-that-be go along.”
Isn’t the OWS answer for the inequality of wealth they are protesting more of the same government that is brutalizing and caging them? Hmmm…
“In God We Trust” should be “In Money We Trust”, although that trust will soon be shown to be misplaced.
Blouise, IMO, what rules there are only apply to the little people and as the arrests of the OWS folks show, the rules are made up as the powers-that-be go along.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/04/larry-taylor-jew-them-down-insurance-company_n_1076482.html Texas republican lawmaker says “jew them down”. These Texas republicans are anti semitic. The republicans nearly voted out a speaker because he is Jewish. Maybe the republicans are better in other states but I will stick with the democrats in Texas until I leave in two years. We are not post partisan here, and the republicans make it an impossibility for the foreseeable future.
Lotta,
There is nothing congress can do to “create jobs” absent getting out of the way. They were destined to fail if they chose any other course of action.
Lotta,
How could anarchy, in the absence of government, manipulate interest rates and the supply of money and credit, absent a central bank and legal tender laws? How could anarchy, in the absence of government, confiscate property from its rightful owners and distribute it to its politically connected financiers, and have its court intellectuals such as krugman claim that when this policy failed it was because not enough of it was done? How could anarchy, in the absence of government, even create the very police state you claim enforces the anarchy you claim to perceive?
Anon nurse, 🙂 I’m sure we’d be fabulous in a swimming pool.
It was my understanding that a special session of the House had been called to deal with unemployment and then a bunch of these do-nothing bills came forward. What a bunch of _____________ (fill in the blank as your heart desires.)
“This country already exists in a state of anarchy as practiced by our corporate and banking citizens, enabled by every politician in Government from the President on down and policed by the national and local security apparatus. We are the world’s first fully functioning anarchist state.” (lotta)
That’s word!!!
Carol,
“I stopped when he said why don;t the walmart workers quit andf get a better job if theyre not happy there. That question indicates he really does not have a handle on what is happening.”
So…walmart really is putting guns to its workers heads? Whats preventing them from leaving? And what about that entire situation does peter schiff not have a handle on? Especially considering he was warning about the very financial crisis we are currently experiencing as far back as 2006?
Rep. Joe Walsh gets pro-family award despite owing $117k in child support”
Family Research Council, why they’re just like Jesus
Blouise,
Of course they’re all idiots. They let michelle bachman pretend like she could be president some day. I do notice one name conspicously absent though… Ill let you figure out who im talking about.
Oh and just for shits and giggles heres herman cain clarifying where he stands on abortion
Lottakatz,
A little something to mark the synchronous postings:
http://www.wimp.com/eatingcat/
From Merriam Webster
ANARCHY:
a : absence of government b : a state of lawlessness or political disorder due to the absence of governmental authority c : a utopian society of individuals who enjoy complete freedom without government
2a : absence or denial of any authority or established order b : absence of order : disorder
Ekeyra, Your statement above regarding anarchy “So if we change the motto does that mean we can finally have anarchy?” as well as Franks, is missing the mark a bit. This country already exists in a state of anarchy as practiced by our corporate and banking citizens, enabled by every politician in Government from the President on down and policed by the national and local security apparatus. We are the world’s first fully functioning anarchist state.
Jon Stewart’s suggestions:
“America: You’ve met our drones, now meet our people”
“Hey World: You can’t spell ‘suck it’ without U-S”
http://www.alternet.org/newsandviews/article/690164/jon_stewart_coins_new_national_motto%3A_%22america%3A_you%27ve_met_our_drones%2C_now_meet_our_people%22/#paragraph4
Granted, this is a contentious issue – but again I feel it is a moot point. From my perspective, the way that he is preaching that we must “trust in god” has its drawbacks – in that surely the different interpretations of God i.e. religion has ultimately caused war. I mean even if we go back centuries to the crusades of the 11-15th century, religious disparities between franks and Muslims caused a multitude of deaths.
Ekeyra, This guy is so impressed with his positions that I got tired of listening to him talk over the people he supposedly wanted to ‘talk’ with. I stopped when he said why don;t the walmart workers quit andf get a better job if theyre not happy there. That question indicates he really does not have a handle on what is happening. He talks get low prices when have low wages. How about CEO’s not getting millions as bonus, severance even when they have bankrupted company, a non profit like BC?bc CEO getting millions in bonus? so prices can go down? hta is not government as he incists, that is corporate greed, plain and simple.
Curious,
WHAT?!! Are you suggesting this was all a done by the republicans to get Obama for mistaking that the motto congress had carved on their new visitor center was correct? Oh my word, thank the good lord Forbes was on the ball. They had the engraving changed too.
Whew … another crisis handled!
Now, maybe the clowns can do something about the economy.
Ekeyra, Have to get my sound up and will listen to it.
Perfect timing for this article also:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/blogpost/post/gretchen-whitmer-michigan-senator-slams-new-bullying-legislation-video/2011/11/04/gIQAaGHAmM_blog.html?tid=sm_twitter_washingtonpost
Michigan Senate passed new anti-bullying legislation, but some say it actually encourages bullying to take place….Whitmer cites a special exception in the law for bullies who have “a sincerely held religious belief or moral conviction
A religion that says kids should bully? That is ne heck of a G-d they have.
C.Everett Kook-
Great article. Where’s that guy with the loaves and fishes when you really need him?