. . . so is the entire actual Jersey shore. A Princeton study has found that global warming is causing a rise in sea levels that is far greater and more accelerated than previously thought. The report predicts that the Jersey shore could be underwater in a matter of decades and low-lying areas thrashed by increasing storm surges.
The study of Princeton-based research group Climate Central forecasts an increase of three to four feet in water levels and that the danger of massive killer storms will double by 2030. On their site, you can pick an area to look at the potential damage.
Even if half of this rise in sea levels is realized, it would produce widespread damage within our lifetime. It will be interesting to watch those people denying this environmental trend swim out of that problem.
As for that more painful reality, my greatest concern is that Jersey Shore will then combine with Waterworld in a terrifying mutation that will lead millions to throw themselves into the sea to make it stop.
Source: CBS
There is no debate on how Venus got to be the way it is today. There is debate as to how much of a role volcanism played in generating the CO2 in the Venusian atmosphere, but there is no debate over the mechanic that drives the Hellish conditions on Venus. That mechanic is the greenhouse effect. End of story. The debate is about how long that process took, not what the process was.
That’s not speculation. Those are the facts. Keep flailing away though.
The temperature today at Summit, Greenland -28 F forecast for -35 F
The above quote would certainly point to the reason the planet has been cooling as CO2 increases. Would be a major problem if the increase of CO2 has us headed for a major cool down.
So CO2 has a cooling effect on earth. Which is it? Cooling or heating?
You tell me
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For the three day period, March 8th through 10th, the thermosphere absorbed 26 billion kWh of energy. Infrared radiation from CO2 and NO, the two most efficient coolants in the thermosphere, re-radiated 95% of that total back into space.
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Gene doesn’t know what he is talking about.
Dredd links to stories where “if” is repeated.
Bdaman:
So CO2 has a cooling effect on earth. Which is it? Cooling or heating?
Anyone who says they know for a fact earth is heating up because of man doesnt have a clue.
The evidence is overwhelming at this point that climate change has many factors involved, some probably not yet even discovered.
Anyone who believes in AGW also believes in fairies and elves and government’s ability to create wealth.
Probably no coincidence that Mars and Venus have no radiation belt and are climatic basket cases even though relatively earth like in other respects.
Bdaman:
there is much debate about Venus and its atmosphere. Gene H is just speculating. There are so many possible explanations about why Venus has the atmosphere it does that no one cause can be considered primary. Or there may be a mechanism which has yet to be identified.
There is even debate on whether Venus had any large amount of water, say comparable to the earth.
Large amounts of sulfates in the atmosphere, lack of a radiation belt, extremely high concentrations of CO2, almost the entire atmosphere is CO2.
Funny thing though, Mars and Mercury dont have radiation belts either.
There are so many forces driving climate, there is no way we can point to one mechanism and say, with any degree of certainty, that man made CO2 or even other chemicals are the cause. To do so is to be either stupid or to have an agenda. I am talking tree stump stupid, not your garden variety stupid. Like the ones who watch Maddow and Olbermann and believe every thing they say.
Dredd which direction is the line heading
http://www.woodfortrees.org/plot/hadcrut3vgl/from:2001/plot/hadcrut3vgl/from:2001/trend
“If Earth’s climate continues to warm, then the volume of present-day ice sheets will decrease. Melting of the current Greenland ice sheet would result in a sea-level rise of about 6.5 meters; melting of the West Antarctic ice sheet would result in a sea-level rise of about 8 meters (table 1). ”
If If If If if if if if…….. it’s not it’s not it’s not ………….
Dredd the U.S. makes up what percentage of the earths total surface ?
Despite a warm winter in the U.S., global temperatures are in a cooling trend. There has been record or near record snow and ice in Alaska, the Arctic, Antarctic, a brutally cold winter in Europe three years in a row where over 700 people died this year due to cold. Even parts of the Southern Hemisphere are facing a year without a Summer. In fact it is looking like the Arctic will have it’s longest winter on record and sea ice is the most since 2007.
The rubbing of salt on the wounds of New Jersey’s shores would be for there to be a drought, so the rising salt water flooded parched lands:
(The Nation).
RE: global sea level rise:
(USGS). Ten meters is about 32 feet.
Gene H.
You may not be aware that Bdaman has a day job. Here is a video of him introducing The Saint of Denialism, Rick Santorum.
The other 7,000,000,000 people in the nations around the world are beginning to prosecute the denier leaders for crimes.
Seventeen oil denier barons were detained for criminal charges for oil spills in Brazil.
Europe is ginning up for similar prosecutions in the world criminal court.
Actually, in the distant past, Venus was a lot more like Earth than it is today. It even had liquid water before the oceans boiled off. If you don’t understand the greenhouse effect as seen on Venus, it’s no wonder you don’t understand the danger of AGW on Earth. Google “Venus greenhouse effect” and do your own homework.
Or in the worst case scenario, no homeostasis is possible and we get a runaway greenhouse effect like that seen on Venus.
Gene your so full of shit.
Is Venus like earth? No. Does Venus have a day and night within a 24 hour period around the whole planet? NO. Does Venus have water. You know because water vapor is a major part of green house gasses on Earth.
How bout sunlight Gene. Temperatures on the dark side of Venus are basically the same as those on the side facing the sun. Night on Venus lasts for thousands of hours, yet the temperature never cools down. The greenhouse effect is based on the idea that sunlight warms the ground surface, gets re-emitted as radiation, gets absorbed by greenhouse gases and warms us up. Since there is no sunlight at night, we get less greenhouse effect. So how do we explain the high nighttime temperatures on Venus through thousands of hours of no sunlight?
Bullshit. Over the long term, the climate of the Earth is changing. Over the short term it has been relatively very stable for very long periods of time. If it hadn’t complex life would have never evolved. The added heat load created by greenhouse gases is creating greater instability and will eventually force a climate shift – i.e. reach a tipping point where damage cannot be undone – as the atmosphere seeks a new level of homeostasis that accounts for the retained heat. Or in the worst case scenario, no homeostasis is possible and we get a runaway greenhouse effect like that seen on Venus.
It’s been unstable since day one and had nothing to do with the burning of fossil fuels.
What part of the word “unstable” don’t you understand?
Apparently the same part of it that blocks you from understanding the cyclical nature of instability in complex systems as they move toward tipping points.