Once again, I find myself reading a translation of a Muslim cleric and trying to confirm that this is not a hoax. London-based Kuwaiti Shiite Cleric Yasser Al-Habib is shown on the video below reportedly saying that Satan turns certain babies by sticking his finger in the anus of babies and that gays crave “penetration” due to a “worm.” As with the recent Christian minister calling for death camps of gays, I am often left skeptical on such hate-filled nonsense could be espoused by even the most extreme religious figures. However, this translation is appearing on various websites.
The cleric in the translation explains how “[i]t is told that Omar Ibn Al-Khattab had an anal disease, which could be cured only by semen. Someone who, god forbid, has been penetrated in the anus – a worm grows within him due to the semen discharged in him. A disease develops in his anus, and as a result… he cannot calm down unless he is penetrated again and again.” Habib purportedly explains this “well-known” medical condition and then explains how the Satan checks to see if a baby is a Shiite at birth: “if the newborn is not one of our Shiites, the devil inserts his index finger into the anus of the newborn, who thus becomes a passive homosexual.”
That would make millions of Sunni Muslims — and all non-Muslim men — passive homosexuals. There does not appear to be a Satanic intervention creating lesbians.
As with the recent Christian minister describing how he wants to kill gays “in a fleshy way,” this alleged description of anal penetration seems uncomfortably detailed by the cleric.
What is fascinating about this theory is that it would have the unintended consequence of confirming that certain people are gay at birth. If that is the case, why stone them to death and hang them in places like Iran?
I have held on to this story for a couple days to look for someone determining that the translation is a hoax. I am still hoping (desperately) that one of our bilingual readers will confirm that he is actually talking about something benign like how to properly fast or why Manchester United is going to have a great year.
Mark 7:15;There is nothing from without a man, that entering into him can defile him: but the things which come out of him, those are they that defile the man. 16If any man have ears to hear, let him hear.
Matthew 15:11;Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man.
You don’t know what comes out of the mouth?
1Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations. 2For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs. 3Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him. 4Who art thou that judgest another man’s servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.
King James Version
If a man in his mind sees pork as good to eat, he will still be able to stand before the Lord.
artiewhitefox 1, June 12, 2012 at 10:29 am
Matt Johnson What Jesus does not want us to defile is the soul.What a human speaks potentially can defile the soul. The items that can be eaten do not defile the soul, but if it is unclean to you don’t eat it.
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Are you responsible for what you say even if you don’t mean it? People say stupid things all the time. If you say something stupid but you don’t mean it, does that defile your soul?
With regard to what can be eaten or not! There are some things I won’t eat. Even if I have to starve to death.
Mark 7:15;15There is nothing from without a man, that entering into him can defile him: but the things which come out of him, those are they that defile the man. 16If any man have ears to hear, let him hear.
Matthew 15:11;11Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man.
You don’t know what comes out of the mouth?
<>1Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations. 2For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs. 3Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him. 4Who art thou that judgest another man’s servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.
King James Version
If a man in his mind sees pork as good to eat , he will still be able to stand before the Lord.
I was in Bahrain for a few weeks, got hit on at the bars. Yes, the good Muslims do drink in Bahrain. There is a theory among some of them that god can’t see what happens there. I don’t know the full story on that, but I thought it was hilarious at the time. The UAE, while no paragon of civic virtues, is by all means the most liberal of islamic states that I’ve been to. The mall in Dubai was where I got hit on- on a daily basis. It might be the fact that I was hanging out with a Marine buddy of mine who is, ah, how can I put it delicately… about as hetero as the sun is cold. Glad he can serve openly now, though at the time, he never made a secret of it, but the Marines had a surprisingly tolerant view of him back then. It was either tolerance or the fact that he was a sniper, one of the too. Never piss off someone who can drop a .50 cal round through your head at a klick or more.
AY, you’ll have to check with a Muslim cleric on that question; the rest of us don’t really know. Of course, there are probably various categories of homosexuals, including homophobic homosexuals (and unfortunately those are the ones who come up with this kind of crap) so maybe…
What the hell is a passive homosexual…..
It’s getting late. Think I’ll take a clue from ID707.
Amy Alkon,
Of course they do, otherwise they would be discounted as a fair source.
Can you on the other hand vouch or provide reason for believing that the translations they provide are a reasoanble and significant fraction of the news published from Arabic sources???? Just wondering.
BarkinDog,
Don’t even talk about pork.
Matt Johnson What Jesus does not want us to defile is the soul.What a human speaks potentially can defile the soul. The items that can be eaten do not defile the soul, but if it is unclean to you don’t eat it.
BitchinDog here. Those who can, do. Those who cant, preach. Those who cant preach, pork preachers. And you dont want no muslim porkin ya.
If I had a head like that and people called me dickhead then I would put a turban on it too.
Since this guy is so versed in the anatomy of Worms, how about he make like a Hermaphrodite and go …. (well, you know)
artiewhitefox,
Don’t you want to move to Iran? Why not?
antiewhitefox,
Move to Iran.
Now I know you Are nuts..
Who in their right mind believes that worm thing anyway?
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said there aren’t any homosexuals in Iran. Who has the statistics.
Mike A, it would be somewhat less than 6,000 years, because Shiite Muslims have been around only since 600, at the earliest, so 2010 minus 600 (to err on the side of the most time) would make it only 1,400 years old. After all, for Satan to use a worm to set Shiite Muslims above all others, that presupposes the existence of Shiite Muslims, or why have that worm around at all? “So many worms, so little time!”
The real question raised by this story for fundamentalists is whether the gay worm is a product of millions of years of evolution or was created in its present form 6,000 years ago.
Anyone who would stand up to be a statistic is killed.
I sent this to a friend who is a Christian Arab and he wrote back: “I shared this exact link with a friend on his FB wall several days ago. I can assure you that the translation is correct. BTW, MEMRI provides very reliable translations.”
MALISHA,
LOL. You are so quick, but probably well-oiled repartée.
Now to address others who did not ask for it:
I guess I said that because I’ve always regarded gays as exotic and talented. While telecom folks can be talented (some few), but exotic—not at all.
Guess that depends on the eye of the beholder.
Speaking of attraction, I find men’s clothing either boring or ridiculous. Hoooohum!
GeneH said regarding the cardinal that the female prerogative or something like that. And one thinks of male birds who are competing in appearance and those of noblement through the 1400 to 1700s and wonder why we are so shy about our plumage today.
Got to considering some girl clothes this evening strolling on the walking steet. Got drawn in by the music and the deluxe environment but with cheap clothing. Got turned on by the foreign style lace blouses (of course not), but was intrigued by the crocheted vest in beige thread. Would look great on a young man some 50 years my junior; either bare-chested or with a colored T-shirt under. Macho man. (Never made it. It was enough to be just available and stupid to suit the ladies. Some have low standards. Theirs, not mine. I didn’t have any at all.)
No, not coming out this week either. So hold your breath, all of you.
The current mens’ wear, in subway ads, in business style jackets they look like overgrown preppies. IE they have outgrown their jackets with bared wrists hanging long out of the shirt cuffs. Guess am old-fashioned.
I wonder how many get the association of white shoe society here. The young wannabes strut their American English, but do they understand the culture? You never know.
A dark little swarthy type sat down next to me in the deluxe pizza parlor, and my usual intro came out: “I’m American and interested where folks come from”. He replied huffily, tired of the question: “I’m from here. Except when I live in West Hollywood—-California”, he added, in case I did not know.
Well, I managed to say that I’d live a few years in East Hollywood, and then asked him if he knew of the Silver Lake region. That was his favorite spot, so we were buddies again.
He was here on business, cramming biz calls between pizza bites. He and his very dumb body guard looked funny together when they exited Indian style, the little chief in front. Wonder what his racket was.