Fathi Shihab-Eddim, a senior aide to Egyptian President Mohammed Morsi, has tackled a key problem for Holocaust deniers: where did all of the Jews go? His answer? America, of course.
Shihab-Eddim is responsible for appointing editors of all state-run Egyptian newspapers — a position that would normally require a degree of intellect and insight. Yet, Shihab-Eddim used the Holocaust Remembrance Day on Jan. 27 to explain his theory that this is one big hoax.
It appears that while one boat load of Jewish immigrants on the MS St. Louis were barred entry in various country including the U.S., six million Jews were secretly moved into the United States.
Shihab-Eddim stated that “The myth of the Holocaust is an industry that America invented. U.S. intelligence agencies in cooperation with their counterparts in allied nations during World War II created it [the Holocaust] to destroy the image of their opponents in Germany, and to justify war and massive destruction against military and civilian facilities of the Axis powers, and especially to hit Hiroshima and Nagasaki with the atomic bomb.” What is interesting is that I did not know that we needed an excuse for the destruction of the war since we did not start it. Moreover, the United States and its allies have been criticized for burying the evidence of the concentration camps to keep it from being a major issue in the war. Some Roosevelt officials like Treasury Secretary Henry Morgenthau, Jr. criticized the Administration for obstructing efforts to deal with the camps. It appears now, according to Shihab-Eddim, Morgenthau was just part of a ruse in writing private papers detailing these complaints.
What is equally impressive is that we got the Germans to go along and all of those American GIs who liberated the camps — as well as a cast of thousands of emancipated individuals and corpses.
It appears that Egypt is moving to join Iran in making Holocaust a prominent part of its government. The absence of any response by Morsi leaves the impression that he either shares or tolerates such extreme views.
Source:UPI
Figures that Phil Plait would find a home on a web site run by a guy who is an alleged homosexual pedophile. NASA sure knows how to pick defenders, don’t they!
The only thing you cited as evidence in support of claims that Hitler killed six or 12 million Jews and others. is what you claim is a confession by some guy. You really expect anyone to believe that’s an authentic document? Don’t you know that no German governments have ever been found which order the mass killing of six or twelve million people?
Now, the two holocausts – Palestine and Armenia are a different story. Only Israel and Turkey deny those, and Turkey has pretty much admitted that the Armenian holocaust is a historical fact.
AA FL77, WTC 7, Apollo Moon landing hoaxes, and many others I mentioned simply can’t be refuted. Denied, yes. Ignored, certainly. But you can’t refute ’em, can you, phony doctor.
BTW and speaking of logic, attempting to change the subject to hide that you didn’t sufficently respond to the evidence and logics presented in support of the original argument about the reality of the Holocaust is a technique often utilized by propagandists, conspiracy theorists and simpletons; an informal logical fallacy called argument by non-sequitur. In specific, it is the form of non-sequitur known as derailment.
Bad Logic Bill Strikes Again.
P.S. Just ignore that astronomer Phil Plait, author of the award-winning blog Bad Astronomy and president of the James Randi Educational Foundation spends a fair amount of time de-bunking the ridiculous statements of Moon hoaxers.
For those of you who can’t refute the evidence that shows 9/11 and The Apollo moon landings were a hoax, try “the amazing Randi’s forum JREF.
There you will find plenty of right-wing propaganda talking points that attempt to prove they weren’t hoaxes.
P.S. just overlook the pervert charges against the Amazing one.
OS,
All true dat.
Gene and Darren,
When a person has a delusional belief, the delusion is next to impossible to dislodge without the use of either medication or electroshock therapy, and even then it sometimes does not work. The delusional person looks for every hint or scrap of “evidence” that their delusion is valid.
I recall one guy who thought his parents were sending him messages by way of signboards along the highway. No amount of pointing out to him that his parents were not wealthy and no way could they have afforded thousands of signs did anything to dissuade him of his delusional belief. Finally, after a regimen of Thorazine and Haldol, did his delusions get better, but even then he was suspicious every time he saw a sign in a public place.
There ya go. Often wrong, never uncertain, and keeps it in a logic-tight compartment.
OS,
You got that right….. This is true even for the highly educated as well as the ones life puts challenges in front of…..
Devastating logic there, G – but you must be embarrassed that a “doctor” such as yourself, is completely unable to address even simple questions which destroy the validity of the bush 9/11 conspiracy theory. To say nothing of your failure to rebut the biggest propaganda hoax of all time: the fake Apollo Moon landings.
You continue to destroy your issues, G.
Good luck to you – but I think you’re too far out there to ever wake up.
Ad hominem is a form of ridicule and in your case it is neither unfair or distorted. As Bron noted, calling you an idiot gives idiots a bad name.
As I said, ridiculous arguments deserve ridicule.
That a ridiculous person is often responsible for ridiculous arguments is just the tao of things.
Gene,
You silly goose. All you’ve got are unfair, distorted ad hominems. If the above is your writing, I can’t help wondering if the doctorate you claim to have is a framed matchbook diploma from the LaSalle College of Barber Knowledge and Night Law School.
Help your (proud, NATURALLY bald brother) out and tell us how AA FL 77 was still flying up until 2005, if it crashed into the Pentagon on 9/11/2001 and wasn’t even a scheduled flight on that day.
Go ahead, “Doctor” G.
You lecturing anyone on logic and critical thinking after your fantastic display of the exact opposite on this thread is laughable, bill. You couldn’t even follow linear causality in an argument. That’s logic a child could follow if it wasn’t brain damaged. Read a book on logic and critical thinking? Several of us here could write a book on logic and critical thinking, including me. I was an A student in my doctorate level logic and reasoning courses. I’ve tutored the subject. And yet you – a Moon hoaxing Holocaust denier – has the audacity to suggest that you know anything about either logic or critical thinking?
I’ll give you this. What you clearly lack in brains you make up for in balls and a completely unjustifiable overinflated assessment of your “skills” such as they are. When it comes to logic and critical thought, you’ve brought a pointed stick to a nuclear exchange. There are lawyers and scientists here, slick. We can argue circles around you if you were worth the time.
But in the end, you’re not. People don’t want to engage your “arguments” because they are crap, not because they couldn’t stomp them into a puddle. Even people with bad ideas are often worth arguing with, like Bron on economics. People with ridiculous arguments are simply worthy of ridicule. I suggest you learn to live with that.
Mr. Smith:
Have you ever read a book or even an article on logic and critical thinking?
First, no said there weren’t people who died at the Pentagon. Lots of people died there on 9/11, as the result of the explosions that were set off in the building that just happened to have been the one where workers were investigating the missing trillion dollars from the Pentagon budget that Rumsfeld announced to the media. You didn’t hear any more about THAT after 9/11, did you?
AA FL 77 wasn’t scheduled to fly on 9/11, and it continued to be in the AA fleet until 2005, yet you want people to believe it crashed into the Pentagon in 2001. “Willis, you got some splainin to do”.
At least you are correct about “a side of the Pentagon with a large gaping blasted out hole there”. BLASTED out, not hit by AA FL77.
Maybe there IS some hope for you, after all. Check out Dr. David Ray Griffin. He is one of the most knowledgeable experts on 9/11, Best of all, you can understand and follow his logic and evidence, even if you don’t know anything about logic or critical thinking.
Bill
Your head is buried so far in the sand the bottoms of your feet are getting sunburned. Gene’s video characterizes what you say quite accurately.
Now you are going about this 911 hoax thing that a 10 year old could see as being rather childish.
Now you are inferring that the 911 thing was a big hoax and that “tons of people claim to have seen the planes crash into the WTC and the pentagon, but those plaes were not even scheduled.” Well I have a piece of information for you. (despite the fact it was all over the world this information of what happened) My own brother in law was working at the Pentagon when the jet crashed into it. It was only luck that he was not killed. He was scheduled to work in the section that got hit and the day before his boss changed their work schedule to another area. He was in the building when it was attacked and there was no question it happened.
Two or three weeks later, I was in Arlington VA. My wife and I were at Arlington Cemetery with her brother visiting the gravesite of her father and mother. While there a person could look right across a freeway and see the side of the pentagon with a large gaping blasted out hole there. There were three funerals going on for at least three service members who had died in the attack about a quarter mile away. I saw this with my own eyes but I suppose this is not good enough for you.
Yep, according to your delusion it couldn’t have happened because it was not a scheduled flight or the tail number of the aircraft was still registered.
But having this self-actualized ignorance that you possess is good for something. People like you serve as a conduit for direct payment of cash from employers/welfare agencies straight into the hands of entrepreneurs who sell books and ads on websites about conspiracy theories or other poppycock. They know that there is a certain market segment that is so gullible they will believe anything if it is spoon fed to them a certain way. And you keep coming back for more and more, and the profits go up every day because you are just another patsy to make money off of.
So go ahead and declare victory in your asymmetric debate with Gene, Otteray, and the others here. It is rather pyrhhic, since this entire expedition has served to only to reveal to the internet how much of a consummate fool you are and a laughing stock to anybody who reads your jabberwocky. So from now on, anytime someone reads on another thread your name, your reputation is going to be following you. Good job.
Blah Blah Blah.— All Fluff, No Stuff. Do over – you are getting worse and worse.
BBC TV announcer said WTC 7 had collapsed – even as the camera behind her showed a live image of the building STILL STANDING. 9/11 was an even bigger hoax (inside job) than the Apollo Moon landings hoax.
A confession (sic) written by who really knows who – is no more credible than the “Elders of Zion” hoax.
The evidentiary proof of the “never again” holocaust is no more credible than the Palestine holocaust – or the Armenian Holocaust, for that matter.
Tons of people claimed to have seen or know someone who says they saw planes crash into the WTC and the Pentagon, but two of those flights weren’t even scheduled for 9/11, and the planes weren’t even deregistered until 2005.
But don’t let the facts trump your belief in the Bush 9/11 fairy tale.
Turn off the teevee and do some research. Bush lied to you.
as i boy scout in the early to mid 70’s i recall the was some controversy at the time concerning hypothermia. they were just beginning to understand how someone could die of exposure when the temperature wasn’t anywhere close to freezing. the relationship of wind on body temps. only problem was most of the work done on the subject were nazi death camp experiments.
the problem was the ethics of using data derived from such a source.
it was resolved because many camp survivors felt if any good should come from that knowledge it should be used.
at least that’s how i remember it. its been awhile.
Bill
You just don’t get it. A person that is so infatuated with “show me the proof” and when someone does, such as suggesting that you look at the mountains of evidence from every credible historical and government source in the western world, all the eyewitness testimony, all the physical evidence as to the events of the holocaust and you point to one link on the internet and claim the former is irrelevant and therefore the holocaust never happened.
Then on top of that, you claimed in one of your replies here that the 911 conspiracy was linked to President Obama, and later it was President George Bush. You cannot even get what you proffer to be fact correctly without goofing that up. At least if you are going to blow hot air try to get get your own information correct.
Later you accuse Otteray of being on the straight and narrow and he needs to get exposed to some new ideas. But you in your hypocritical approach to the truth you cannot, or I should say will not, even learn from anyone that tells you something different than your foolish adherence to fantastic claims and laughable conclusions.
Your truth compass has its rose reversed, because it seems much of what you claim is exactly the opposite of what it truly is, and when you point to someone else as being wrong, it is you that is wrong for the same reason. Maybe it is due to the CIA taking over the South Pole at the same time the USAF turned on the HAARP Array in Alaska to reverse the polarity of the earth. I don’t know, maybe you do, or some link on the Art Bell website proves it.
Well it is apparent to all here, except for yourself, that this conversation is just going to go nowhere because you are going to hold fast to your convictions and everyone else is going to choose reality.
On second thought, I DO give a sh!t what you think. It does matter and is deeply offensive to the memory of the 12 million murdered by the Nazis, six million of them Jews.
bill, you have me confused with someone else. Such as someone who gives a sh!t what you think.
OS — you are proof that if you want to make someone mad, tell them a lie.
If you want to make them furious, tell them the truth.
I really am surprised at how many liberals (sic) here are unable/unwilling to
discuss issues – particularly those that are in conflict with state media propaganda.
You need to get out of your comfort zone and get exposed to some new ideas. You seem stuck back in the Reagan era.