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Karzai Accuses U.S. of Colluding With Taliban on Attacks

225px-hamid_karzai_2004-06-14There’s crazy and then there is Karzai crazy. Afghan President Hamid Karzai spoke this weekend and accused the United States of colluding with . . . the Taliban. It was an odd accusation from a man who said that he wished that he had joined the Taliban against the United States as American soldiers were dying in the field and the American people were pouring billions into this corrupt family and country. Notably, however, Karzai does put the lie to the Administration’s heralding how the President is trying to pull out troops from Afghanistan when reports indicated that the Administration has been trying to get Karzai to let more troops stay in the country.


Karzai insists that the U.S. wants more attacks to occur to justify keeping troops in the country — a reflection of the private pressure from the Administration to keep troops in the country. Karzai announced “Those bombs that went off in Kabul and Khost were not a show of force to America. They were in service of America. It was in the service of the 2014 slogan to warn us if they (Americans) are not here then Taliban will come . . . In fact those bombs, set off yesterday in the name of the Taliban, were in the service of Americans to keep foreigners longer in Afghanistan.”

Of course, we will continue to pour money into the country and the Karzai family coffers. Despite the overwhelming unpopularity of our presence, no one wants to leave the appearance of a failure in our war in the country.

Yes, it is absurd to think of the U.S. collaborating with the Taliban for attacks. In the last day, two more Americans were killed by an insider attack. However, there remains a disconnect between the President heralding his determination to pull out troops (which should have occurred at the beginning of his term) and the reports of our being forced to leave the country.

For his part, Defense Secretary Hagel went out of his way to praise Karzai and simply noted his claim “wouldn’t make a lot of sense.” In other words, sure he is crazy but he is U.S. approved crazy.

Of course, it is certifiably crazy to see any discernible plan in Afghanistan. Karzai makes the joker look remarkably sane:

Source: CNN

42 thoughts on “Karzai Accuses U.S. of Colluding With Taliban on Attacks”

  1. Prof.,

    The Joker clip was perfect but it didn’t have the line leading to that speech. “Do I really look like a guy with a plan? You know what I am? I’m a dog chasing cars. I wouldn’t know what to do with one if I caught it! You know, I just… *do* things.” Karzai has never struck me as a guy with a plan. Or to paraphrase the late Warren Zevon, “Accidentally Like A Dictator”.

  2. Thanks TravelinL…Dredd and RWL have very interesting posts…i just do not believe that the CIA and Military Intel are not in constant contact with the leadership of Pakistani military and the ISI and do not have some measure of control over these agencies…with the $Billions
    and superior technology being sent there…the US has a history of controlling events there…starting with Operation Ajax and the downfall of Mossade and the installation of the Shaw…the CIA never takes a junior partner role with any of these groups…

    Operation

    … http://articles.latimes.com/2009/nov/15/world/fg-cia-pakistan15 …

  3. The United States has been sending PALLETS of cash into certain countries. Not bags, pallets. Shrink wrapped. No accountability.

  4. But Bruce, buying things means giving other money=power away.
    now the super rich are making money=power off the war, and when the time comes they’ll make power=money off the resources.

  6. What Afganastan is costing the U.S. we could buy the mineral deposits. It’s time to leave and let them have at it.

  7. Nice posts Woody, & Dredd too, but could you define ISI? Seems to be Pakistan’s answer to Israel’s Mossad but I’d rather not guess.

  8. agree with Dredd: “One has to be crazy to think that the recent wars, or even those less recent for that matter, are about anything other than resource control”
    as soon as you let go of the fairytale that these wars are fought to protect “american freedoms” from “jealous muslims”, it makes perfect sense that those with the most to gain (military industrial complex) would do anything to continue the status quo, at least until the resources are stolen.
    http://whowhatwhy.com/2012/09/10/the-real-reason-for-the-afghan-war/

  9. Before we call this man, Mr. Karzai ‘crazy,’ let’s first examine the true reason we are in Afghan, allowing our family members and friends to die:

    U.S., Afghan Study Finds Mineral Deposits Worth $3 trillion:

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-01-29/u-s-afghan-study-finds-mineral-deposits-worth-3-trillion.html

    If we are in Afghan for the $$$$, then is it hard to believe that our US government is leaving this region anytime soon? Why wouldn’t they have ongoing discussion/negotiation with the Taliban (just google taliban and us negotiations)? Why wouldn’t the US and the Taliban be ‘working together’ so that the American public can continue to think that we need to keep our troops in Afghan to stop the ‘fighting’ and not to get the mineral deposits?

    Seems like Mr. Karzai isn’t that ‘crazy’ after all…….

  10. Dredd, very good link. And today we have the war on terror, the war on drugs, the war on poverty, the war on women.
    Can we just cut the crap and let people alone?

  11. You know… Even the craziest person out there is right some of the time….. He may have a point…. After reading Bushs book….. He might just be right…

  12. The published reason for the Afghanistan debacle was to go after al-Qaeda, however, one of our military commanders says that Oil-Qaeda is a much greater danger:

    America’s top military officer in charge of monitoring hostile actions by North Korea, escalating tensions between China and Japan, and a spike in computer attacks traced to China provides an unexpected answer when asked what is the biggest long-term security threat in the Pacific region: climate change.

    Navy Admiral Samuel J. Locklear III, in an interview at a Cambridge hotel Friday after he met with scholars at Harvard and Tufts universities, said significant upheaval related to the warming planet “is probably the most likely thing that is going to happen . . . that will cripple the security environment, probably more likely than the other scenarios we all often talk about.’’

    “People are surprised sometimes,” he added, describing the reaction to his assessment. “You have the real potential here in the not-too-distant future of nations displaced by rising sea level. Certainly weather patterns are more severe than they have been in the past. We are on super typhoon 27 or 28 this year in the Western Pacific. The average is about 17.”

    (Oil-Qaeda: The Indictment – 2).

  13. woody voinche 1, March 11, 2013 at 11:08 am

    It was Eisenhower that warned of the dangers of an overpowering military industrial complex…?
    =================================
    He was one of them.

    The “Father of the Constitution” who wrote the Bill of Rights, was a bit more instructive:

    Of all the enemies to public liberty war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded, because it comprises and develops the germ of every other. War is the parent of armies; from these proceed debts and taxes; and armies, and debts, and taxes are the known instruments for bringing the many under the domination of the few. In war, too, the discretionary power of the Executive is extended; its influence in dealing out offices, honors, and emoluments is multiplied: and all the means of seducing the minds, are added to those of subduing the force, of the people. The same malignant aspect in republicanism may be traced in the inequality of fortunes, and the opportunities of fraud, growing out of a state of war, and in the degeneracy of manners and of morals, engendered by both. No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare. Those truths are well established.

    (Toxins of Power, quoting James Madison).

  14. US FUNDS THE TALIBAN????

    One of the most important issues today is the war in Afghanistan-Pakistan and the fact that US
    Military Aid to Pakistan is being used to fund the Pakistani ISI which is in turn funding Taliban
    and Al Quada fighters. While this has been reported sporadically in the media for whatever
    reason political pundits on the left and right have effectively ignored this issue.

    Joe Klein in an article for Time, August 9, 2010, p. 19, has written an article that every American
    citizen should go to their library and read, he writes,

    “The commanders are unanimous in their belief that the ISI is running the show….And so,
    despite professions of alliance with the US by Pakistan’s then dictator Pervez Musharraf, a
    decision was made to keep the Taliban alive. A spigot of untargeted military aid from the George
    W. Bush Administration helped fund the effort. A commander of the vicious Haqqani Taliban
    network tells Waldman that their funding comes from ‘the Americans–from them to the
    Pakistani military, and then to us.’ Waldman reports that the commander receives from the
    Pakistanis ‘a reward for killing foreign soldiers, usually $4000 to $5000 for each soldier killed'”.

    American tax dollars if not directly, then indirectly are being used to fund the Taliban and put
    a bounty on American boys and girls head… Makes one wonder why the establishment right
    or left is not reporting on this? If the right is covering for
    the mistakes of the Bush administration…why is the establishment left not reporting on this???
    …this is the most important issue of the day…we will never win a war where if not directly then
    indirectly the US is funding the opposition!!!!

    woody voinche

  15. Pull out all troops today! We wasted (yes WASTED) people and money in this botched attempt to turn Afghanistan into Colorado. Get out today, take all our stuff and let them fight it out amongst themselves.

  16. It was Eisenhower that warned of the dangers of an overpowering military industrial complex…?

  19. No Win War???

    The New American for November 9, 2009, has an interesting article on General Barry McCaffrey’s statement that the US “faces 10 more years of war in Afghanistan” and that the US should “focus upon a long and expensive nation-building process for Afghanistan’s tribal culture.” There seems to be a mindset in the establishment for the US to maintain a long term presence in the MidEast.

    For a long time, the US has operated in the region through hidden agendas. In his book, The New World Order, Mr. Pat Robertson, states that George Bush 1 suggested that the fate of Kuwait was not the main issue, “launching the New World Order was the main thing.” Mr. Robertson further writes, “By words and by silence, the United States flashed Saddam Hussein a green light” … to move into Kuwait and suggests this was used as a pretext for the 1st Gulf War…the implication is that Saddam was entraped with Green Light Diplomacy but there was a much larger agenda(hidden) for moving against Hussein………..

    For the situation in Afghanistan and Pakistan, the evidence suggests that the US and its allies are not doing all that can be done to win this war and there is some agenda for prolonging this conflict.

    The Advocate quotes Hillary Clinton(Dec. 7, 2009, p. 5A), stating it is “hard to believe” that no one in Islamabad knows where the al-Qaida leaders are hiding and couldn’t get them “if they really wanted to.”

    In the aftermath of 9.11, the bombing of the wrong escape route out of Afghanistan into Pakistan and the nighttime airlift by the US of the Taliban and Al Qaeda operatives that were allowed to escape(The New Yorker, Jan 28, 2002, p. 36); Gary Berntsen, the head of the CIAs team at Tora Bora said they tracked bin Laden and (he) “…could have been caught.”(Newsweek, Aug 15, 2005, p. 5); There is evidence that the Pakistani ISI is funding the Taliban and knows where they live but dont arrest them.(Time, Nov. 29, 2004, p. 44)

    There is a strategy by the Pakistani government “…which pays tribes and insurgent networks to attack each other with a goal of preventing any one group from getting too strong”.(US News, Oct 13/Oct 20, 2008, p. 24)(a strategy used by the Brits) Pakistani Ambassador, Haqqani presents evidence in his book that the Pakistani military and ISI make “…the pretense of arresting militants in order to get funds from Washinton. But it never shut down the networks.”(Newsweek, May 11/May 18, 2009, p. 29)

    The CIA never takes a junior partner role with any of these groups and we have to assume wants this to continue. The New York Times(Oct. 27, 2009) reports that Karzai’s brother is on the CIAs payroll and is a suspected player in the opium trade which finances the Taliban.

    All of this only contributes to a more chaotic situation which feeds a hidden agenda for a “no win war” and prolonged conflict at the expense of American boys and girls lives!!

    woody voinche

  20. One has to be crazy to think that the recent wars, or even those less recent for that matter, are about anything other than resource control:

    The enemy aggressor is always pursuing a course of larceny, murder, rapine and barbarism. We are always moving forward with high mission, a destiny imposed by the Deity to regenerate our victims, while incidentally capturing their markets; to civilise savage and senile and paranoid peoples, while blundering accidentally into their oil wells.

    (Myth Addiction, quoting 1944 book).

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