Moroccan Student Reportedly In Hiding From Police After Posting With Sign Saying “I Am Proud To Be An Atheist.”

600649_10151427078759483_81319987_n-520x550Various atheist sites are reporting that Moroccan student Imad Eddin Habib, 22, is in hiding from police who are seeking him for rejecting Islam and espousing atheism. A Pew poll just showed overwhelming support among many Muslims nations — and allies of the United States — for executing people like Habib for apostasy. The Casablanca paramedical student has gone public as an atheist and police have now interviewed his family on his whereabouts and any foreign connections.
It is not a crime to be an atheist in Morocco. However, there is an offense for “Shaking the Muslim’s faith” which includes criticizing Islam or promoting any other religion. That offense can bring a three year sentence. It takes considerable courage therefore to step forward and demand the right to reject Islam and faith generally.

Habib posted a picture of himself with a sign reading “I am proud to be an atheist.” In 2012, Imad founded Masayminch (“We will not fast”) with more than 600 persons signed in. He is also a member of the Global Secular Humanist Movement. He has also organized a Facebook site for “non-believers, atheists and non-Muslims.” For this advocacy, he has been the subject of death threats and now a police investigation.

Hespress, Morocco’s leading news website featured him in a piece entitled “Infidels of Islam: stories of Moroccans who went out of the flock.” It quoted him as saying “it just takes an objective reading of the Quran to understand that these are myths invented by humans”. That led to the police investigation. While the news report stated that Habib has “a grudge” against Islam, the article may serve to show other young people that there are those who reject faith.

Imad Eddin Habib is 22 and appears to still be in hiding for speaking his mind and asserting his right to choose his own faith or right to be faithless.

Source: Patheos

26 thoughts on “Moroccan Student Reportedly In Hiding From Police After Posting With Sign Saying “I Am Proud To Be An Atheist.””

  1. @Gyges

    You’re leaping elsewhere. The comment to which I had responded stated that Hitchens made him question his own commitment to atheism. How my response turns into never questioning Hitchens is beyond me.

    And there is an interesting lack of specificity in your complaint. Hitchens said bad things? Undeserving things? Such as?

    Invoking his foreign policy positions is digressing, by the way. One topic at a time.

    And paralleling New Atheism, whatever that is, with religious orthodoxy is nonsense. It’s a bankrupt attempt to robe skepticism in religious language. A movement may have arose around an upsurge of interest in disbelief, but it’s commonly known that gathering atheists is much like herding cats. It’s not tribal.

    Hitchens advocated freethought and the constant questioning of all ideas, his own included. Hence my accusation of inversion.

  2. This young man has real problems. He must hide from Muslim monotheists who wish to punish him for “not being” sufficiently Muslim while also hiding from American Christian monotheists like President Obama who want to kill him for “being” a military age Muslim male (or at least looking like one). The old Greek pagan Aristotle sure did the world no favor when he came up with that whole “being as being,” or “what the meaning of ‘is’ is,” business — i.e., metaphysics. To wit:

    From Aristotle’s Metaphysics, Book IV, Part I (the introduction):

    THERE is a science which investigates being as being and the attributes which belong to this in virtue of its own nature [emphasis added]. Now this is not the same as any of the so-called special sciences; for none of these others treats universally of being as being. They cut off a part of being and investigate the attribute of this part; this is what the mathematical sciences for instance do. Now since we are seeking the first principles and the highest causes, clearly there must be some thing to which these belong in virtue of its own nature. If then those who sought the elements of existing things were seeking these same principles, it is necessary that the elements must be elements of being not by accident but just because it is being. Therefore it is of being as being that we also must grasp the first causes. ”

    …..

    From Aristotle’s Metaphysics, Book IV, Part I (the conclusion):

    “Evidently, again, those who say all things are at rest are not right, nor are those who say all things are in movement. For if all things are at rest, the same statements will always be true and the same always false, but this obviously changes; for he who makes a statement, himself at one time was not and again will not be. And if all things are in motion, nothing will be true; everything therefore will be false. But it has been shown that this is impossible. Again, it must be that which is that changes; for change is from something to something. But again it is not the case that all things are at rest or in motion sometimes, and nothing for ever; for there is something which always moves the things that are in motion, and the first mover is itself unmoved[emphasis added].

    To all of which, Bertrand Russell says in A History of Western Philosophy:

    “The main argument for God is the First Cause: there must be something which originates motion, and this something must itself be unmoved, and must be eternal, substance, and actuality. The object of desire and the object of thought, Aristotle says, cause movement in this way, without themselves being in motion. … The conception of an unmoved mover is a difficult one” [emphasis added].

    To say the least! Surely this young man can get his monotheistic Muslim and Christian persecutors to lay off by pointing out to them that, according to their theological/metaphysical dictator Aristotle:

    Major Premise: Only the First Mover can move a young man to “being”
    Minor Premise: A young man has moved to “being” an atheist
    Conclusion: The First Mover has moved the young man to being an atheist

    So, monotheists everywhere, if you don’t like the way things move or “are” (as they “are,” “in themselves,” with no relation to anything else) in this world, then take it up with either the First Mover or the ghost of Aristotle who invented it/she/him/they in the first place. Leave this sensible and promising young man to think for himself. Aristotle and the First Mover — not to mention “being as being” — have had their two thousand years of smothering effect on the human mind. Way past time to give free and unfettered thinking its long-overdue chance.

  3. The concept of the single gawd
    Leaves little more to mock.
    Yet charlatans consider it
    Their tawdry trade and stock.
    No worse idea ever crawled
    From underneath a rock.

    Michael Murry, “The Misfortune Teller”

  4. East of Corfu the Ten Commandments do not apply. But there is more to it. The world has civilized nation states which respect human rights. Then it has nazi type states which stomp on them. Then it has a third catagory where the state has less control itself but the territory is dominated by crooks and pirates. Morocco is between a nazi state and a pirate territory. I am sure that they have some schmuck sitting in the UN in NY in a dress suit and who probably went to Oxford or some place and can speak the Kings English. But underneath that apCray is a nazi state or pirate territory. When we deal with them as a nation, as a corporation or as individuals we must recognize what it is. Dont be a tourist. Do not sail by on a boat. If you must fly over, fly over and flush. Twice in this case.

  5. Imad Eddin Habib.

    What you did takes courage and conviction in your oppressive environment.

    Good on you, young man. You should always be free in these matters to follow the dictates of your conscience first and foremost. Best of luck with your struggle for your right to religious freedom including the choice to not follow a religion at all.

  6. Anyone who believes in and worships a pedophile prophet is obviously an ignorant and illiterate fool and anyone who is brave and intelligent enough to recognize the falsity of this religious myth deserves to be praised. Jomo

  7. Anyone who believes in and worships a pedophile prophet is obviously an ignorant and illiterate fool and anyone who is brave and intelligent to recognize the falsity of this religious myth deserves to be praised. Jomo

  8. How does Hitchens cause you to question your skepticism? Seems a little inverted to me. Maybe because you don’t like his tone: a common, empty complaint. (And has zero to do with the substance of what he says.)

    O.k. now THAT’S funny (if you’re not questioning yourself and other skeptics, you’re doing it wrong). Hitchens said some truly reprehensible things about Islam, and was an advocate of disastrous foriegn policy. He was a complex man with a wide variety of views, some of them laudable, others despicable.

    As both a skeptic and an atheist. They aren’t the same thing at all, and one can be either and even both without being a member of the New Atheist movement. The idea that I owe it my support because it happen to not believe some of the same things as I don’t is the same sort of thinking that is often decried in religion.

  9. Dave, on far too many subject it is exactly what hitch said as well as the way he said it. He attacked people far to often and debated only to win never to enlighten. To me that makes him a poor choice for an proponent. I understand not everyone agrees with that assessment

  10. Morocco and like places are going to in for a rude awakening. People like this brave man are the future. When he says “myths written by humans,” it is now to easy to find support for that claim and people this man’s age and younger have much better access to information than in the past. They will chose other pathways, and it’s only a matter of time before a critical mass is reached.

  11. And if only he lived in he states would he be safer…… Wanna bet?

  12. Well said Mike. The American Taliban would love to have the control that these Muslim elements have in Morocco and other Middle East countries. This student is very brave, but it may be time to leave Morocco.

  13. [Reposted from another thread since it is essentially the same subject.]

    “The Inquisition (Inquisitio Haereticae Pravitatis; Inquiry on Heretical Perversity) was a group of institutions within the judicial system of the Roman Catholic Church whose aim was to “fight against heretics”. It started in 12th-century France to combat the spread of heresy and error, and was later expanded to other European countries,[1] as well as throughout the Spanish and Portuguese empires in the Americas, Asia and Africa.[2]

    Historical phases of the Inquisition include: the Medieval Inquisition (1184–16th century); the Spanish Inquisition (1478–1834); the Portuguese Inquisition (1536–1821); and the Roman Inquisition (1542 – c. 1860).”
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inquisition

    The greatest argument for Separation of Church and State comes from history and our Founding Fathers well knew it. I use the history of the Roman Catholic Church from above as an illustration. However, the need to eliminate “non-believers” has been the historic norm in all religions that have gained approval and power from those that govern their countries, or those like Islam who spread their faith by the sword.

    From its’ beginnings of Islam, as Mohammed’s message took hold, his new faith became intertwined with internecine local clan politics and once in power the urge to spread this new faith via arms took hold. Conquered peoples were given the choice to accept Islam or die and the fact that most did then accept it was a matter of survival. However, the people conquered in the Mid East represented some of the oldest and most sophisticated of human cultures. The strictures necessary to maintain the “converts” faith required harsh punishments be meted out to all who would question it and so a norm was begun that has lasted for 1,400 years. The reason that some Islamic countries continue this tradition is that fact that they are ruled predominately by oligarchies in one form or another, that have used religion to maintain their power.

    Christianity (Hinduism, etc.) also show the same history of intolerance. However, with monarchs like Henry VIII leading the way the trend in Europe was to throw off the chains of central religious rule interfering with their prerogatives. Unfortunately, hundreds of years after the concept of a more secular government was established in the West and the “New World”, we find that religious zealots are again longing for power in the U.S. by denying this country’s Constitutional separation. I have no doubt that if the Christian Fundamentalists were to succeed, they would begin to punish people for non-belief with just as much Draconian penalties.

    Fundamentalist interpreters of faiths, such as what we see today in parts of Islam, Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, etc., require unthinking loyalty and no questions asked. Their greatest enemy is reality and our of their sense of self survival they must stamp out all who would threaten to deal in reality. It is a sad human story dating all the way back to the beginnings of human civilization.

  14. @Frankly

    How does Hitchens cause you to question your skepticism? Seems a little inverted to me. Maybe because you don’t like his tone: a common, empty complaint. (And has zero to do with the substance of what he says.)

    All religion is insane, with varying degrees of danger. Wiccans are pretty low on the danger scale, for instance, yet plenty of irrationality courses through it.

    It’s not evil for people to believe in Islam or any other myth, but that has little do with criticizing Islam (or others) itself. No ideas are immune from criticism, my own included — which is a practice far superior than adhering to the tyrannical “sensibilities” of today’s monotheisms.

  15. Being hunted by the cops for just trying to improve yourself, outrages

  16. Hitchens is a guy who makes me question my commitment to atheism.

    Meanwhile I look forward to the standard deluge of “Islam is evil and everyone who believes in it is evil too” posts that always follow these stories. Just like elements of every other religion in the world there are evil elements in Islam. At the moment those evil elements are in control. Here in the US the dominant religion is Christianity and the evil elements of that bunch hold a lot of sway – not as much as they would like nor as much as the evil currently dominating Islam but that is not from lack of trying.

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