Jehovah’s Witnesses in Arkansas will soon be called to be witnesses of a different kind for John Baldwin, 35. Baldwin is charged with aggravated assault after firing 13 times at the Jehovah’s Witnesses who approached him in his front yard. After Baldwin told Laura Goforth, 47, and Rachel Boshears, 55, to get off his lawn, the Jehovah’s Witnesses were leaving when one of them heard Baldwin tell his wife “Get me my 9.” (A referenced to his Springfield XDM-9). While Isaiah 43:10 may proclaim “Ye are my witnesses, saith Jehovah, and my servant whom I have chosen,” these pious folk will soon be called by a more earthly authority to bear witness.
Baldwin only moved into the neighborhood a month ago. The victims were from Kingdom Hall Jehovah’s Witnesses Church in Bentonville. They noted that they have a no contact list but that Baldwin was not on it. He appears to find it easier to express such preferences more directly. They say that Baldwin told them to “Get your fucking ass off my property. I moved out here to get away from people like you.” He reportedly told police that the women did not immediately leave but instead were “Lolly Gaggin” around their car. So how Baldwin then concluded that the best way to stop the “Lolly Gaggin” was with a hail of 9 mm slugs.
The women could also sue for assault in torts. This would seem a pretty clear case of acting “to cause a harmful or offensive contact with the person of the other or a third person, or an imminent apprehension of such a contact.” Then they might end up owning not just the lawn but his house as well.
He could now face jail time after being released on a $50,000 bond. It is not clear if Jehovah’s Witnesses are allowed to visit prisoners in Arkansas, but one can always hope.
Oro Lee –
“Only a putz could feel threatened by or shoot at Jehovah Witnesses.”
Maybe, but a trespasser is still a trespasser, especially when a homeowner has a sign out that says “NO RELIGION OR SOLICITORS” and the trespassers ignore it.
Legally, one can only use the minimum force necessary to get rid of unwanted visitors, usually in proportion to the threat they pose. I see no problem using non-toxic self-defense dye sprays if people don’t leave when asked, or those who trespass when they already know they are not permitted on the property.
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True story from my life:
I was out working in the front yard one Saturday (late 1990s) and saw two people coming down the street. They were knocking on doors, wearing white shirts, ties and dark pants, and carrying a briefcase. At nearly every house, I could near people saying “**** OFF!” and “*** YOU!” and a few others.
When they got to me, I said, “You’ve been hearing that all day, haven’t you?” The nodded, rolling their eyes. I said, “Sorry, I’m already on the voters’ list.”
I was the only one who saw on the briefcase that they were election volunteers, trying to get people to register. That sort of person is always welcome at my door.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/harry-reid-why-would-we-want-to-help-one-kid-with-cancer.html
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-10-02/shut-day-number-2-humor-nation-laughs-itself
he lives in arkansas and shoots at religious women.
you ain’t from around here, are ya.
I am not a Jehovah Witness, but I do know a lot about them. They are one of the most educated people, yes more educated than college students at times. They are very respectable, polite and care about others. They do not go around like “catholic church” asking for people for money to forgive or robbing anyone. They do not change they view because of trend like every religion leaders do but yet always follow and live by the bible. they do not make up stuff everything is from the bible. why do you try reading and doing some research before jumping to conclusions. most of you here are probably angry people, who live a terrible life or sleep with everyone you see. I guess when people are different it means something is wrong with them. Like the saying we define ourselves by who we are not. “OH I DON’T DO THAT” ! It’s a sad and cruel world but sorry to say but many of you on this page probably contributes to this world being sad.
go ahead, many of you probably have more important things to do, other than speaking to a Jehovah Witness to see what they are really about. Probably one of those important stuff includes sleeping with your friend/ sister/ or cousin husband or wife.
good night 🙂
Only a putz could feel threatened by or shoot at Jehovah Witnesses. They are polite, well-dressed, concerned about your soul, and give out free magazines.
Salesmen, however, that’s another matter . . .
Jehova’s Witnesses are not welcome at my door either. The few times I actually opened the door I pointed at the mezuzah on the door post and asked them if they knew what it was and what it meant. None of them ever did but I made sure I gave my own little speech . I also complained about them standing at the entrance of a local gas station store. When I am in bad mood I wouldn’t mind giving them the finger or even tell them to bugger off. Shooting at them however doesn’t make any sense; none whatsoever. Oy veh!
What amazes me is that idiots like Baldwin even have a wife who will go and get their guns for them. Maybe she is afraid. I mean, what would he have done to her, had she not gotten the gun for him? Or, maybe she´d been waiting for just that moment, when he did something horrendously stupid that got him sent to jail, saving her from a messy divorce or worse.
A felony conviction & he gets no more guns…legally…
I have used the same line as him to get rid of unwanted visitors…of course it was 2am, and they were trying to come thru my bedroom window.
But I only fired once, a 41 magnum, right at their feet, (makes a impressive display at night).
Jack Mehoff,
“I live in Florida and I was under the impression that we could stand our ground and shoot people in our yards who wont leave.”
This explains so much.
I live in Florida and I was under the impression that we could stand our ground and shoot people in our yards who wont leave.
I wonder if there are any witnesses to this event besides the so called victims.
We ought not rush to judgment here. Perhaps Mr. Baldwin’s attorney intends to argue for the addition of a religious proselytization exception to the common law duty to retreat.
The man is an idiot. They were leaving. His home, his life, family, pets, etc. were not in jeopardy. (Ha! Well “physical” jeopardy. I’m sure the JDub’s, who were there to put him on the path to enlightenment, are now convinced that his soul is spiraling out of control heading straight for eternal damnation.) I also cannot help but feel, that somewhere in these United States, there is a neighborhood that had one hell of a block party when that man moved out.
I can’t believe there are those here who defend these felonious actions alleged against this man.
**Oky1, I have a question. I’m probably wrong about this, but aren’t JWs one of the groups that are not allowed to testify in Court or take an oath? **
Kraaken,
See OS’s comments above, he points out the work around.
**Dredd 1, October 2, 2013 at 11:46 am
Another sicko bites the dust.
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“”Dredd, Get the H E double hockey sticks off my Lawn!”” 🙂
Blame it on Clint Eastwood/Grand Torino.
I used a line like that once politically here.
I can’t say it was the line or not, but they backed off you their tax scam & left.
🙂
Anyone who has ever been awaken at 8am on a Saturday morning will find it very difficult not to sympathize with this guy. Yes. He was wrong. But I can certainly sympathize.
Oky1, I have a question. I’m probably wrong about this, but aren’t JWs one of the groups that are not allowed to testify in Court or take an oath?
**Even with the gun issue removed ….**
Good for them.
There are risk in everything when you think about it.
This school district is taking a small risk to reduce a larger risk.
Gun Free Zones are natural targets for lunatics & Govt False Flag Operations.
That said I’m still recommending all that can to form small groups of neighbors & home school their kids or move them to another country until the commie/nazis are driven out of our govt.
Even without the gun issue removed it is still to unsafe to trust one’s kids to this current govt school/healthcare systems.
** By Rick Couri
The plan calls for one M4 Colt carbine rifle to be kept at each of three middle schools during school hours. **
http://www.krmg.com/news/news/local/school-district-vote-keeping-m4-rifle-property/nbCSh/