Montana Issues 6000 Permits To Kill Up To 30,000 Wolves . . . For A Wolf Population Of 625

220px-Canis_lupus_lupus_qtl1We recently saw NBC air an outdoors program showing a NRA lobbyist shooting an elephant in the face and then celebrating with champagne. Given the outcry over the show, he may want to check out Montana where hunters can make a real killing with a $19 license to kill up to five wolves. That is slightly above $3 a wolf. The problem is that the state has issued 6000 permits which would allow the killing of 30,000 wolves. The entire wolf population however is down to 625 in the entire state.


These seem to be pure thrill kills since no one is going to use the meat and you will be able to kill as many as five wolves.

To assist in what looks like a slaughter in the making, the state extended the period to hunt the wolves. If just roughly 2 percent of the hunters succeed, Montana will have wiped out the entire population of wolves. One can only conclude that that is the purpose of this overkill policy. In the meantime, people are clamoring to get in on the kill . . . and to be able to say that they helped wipe out a species in the state for less than the cost of two movie tickets.

The Center for Biological Diversity released the video below on the hunting program.

82 thoughts on “Montana Issues 6000 Permits To Kill Up To 30,000 Wolves . . . For A Wolf Population Of 625”

  1. If you’re willing to stray just a bit out of the box, emu and ostrich are less than half the fat of bison, elk, etc. Then there’s rabbit, the incredibly cheap and plentiful lean meat, the leanest of all. And, tasty as hell.

  2. The 1st day of October Oklahoma law changed to were able bodied/of age people here getting food stamps have to work 20 hours a week.

    To the gen pop/biz owners, they cheer, good, make those lazy sobs work.

    It feels very short sighted to me.

    At the current wages if they can find a job for 20 hours the $9 or $10 an hour in pay isn’t enough to pay for the expenses of going to work.

    (car, tags, insurance, fuel, tires, etc..)

    Within the next few years the gen pop will reach 50% of them will be over 50.

    My concerns with the 2nd amd now is that those younger people are going to realize at some point the dead end that working low paying jobs are & 5-10%, ?, a certain percentage will turn to hardened criminals.

    My thinking is all those grandmas & granddads are going to need that 2nd amd for their own protection more then ever.

    I came from a very large family & so did my wife.

    At least 6 WW2 vets in the family. They all lived through the last (Was) the Great Depression.

    One family lived a couple of doors down from Pretty boy Floyd.

    A key point here is that I remember the tales of starvation back in the 30’s.

    Having trouble come up with the cash to even buy 22 shells for the rifle to hunt their supper with.

    So many people were hunting game for food that game soon became very hard to even find.

    At the same time the govt was destroying livestock in mass under the claim they were trying to reduce the supply to stabilize the price.

    The numbers I’m recalling for some reason is 10-30 million people staved in the US back then, 30’s era.

    And at the same time Wallst/Bush/Kennedy families were getting wealthy suppling cash/financing to build Hitler’s war machine.

    It’s a little different game this time, but it’s the same ole Wallst Bank/Insurance type that caused the trouble back then that are causing it this go around.

    The govt says it hasn’t the funds today for food stamps yet they’ve the money to attack Syria & even today are still suppling arms & training to Al Qaeda there. (Surface to air missiles, jeeze)

    More of the Gen Pop have far better info on where the real trouble is coming from this time.

    There are plenty of fairly decent people around, if they & their groups can come together & loosely organize themselves I believe we could turn many of these important issue around rather quickly.

  3. OS,

    Nature is kinda cool sometimes.

    One day, I’m not sure why, but 5 or 6 crows picked a fight with a squirrel.

    They had him circled next to a (oak?) tree. One at a time they would rush him.

    He was sitting upright on his hind legs & as the crows attacked he would punch them. 🙂

    That went on about 15-20 minutes

  4. Oky1,
    We all need to do more. I won’t buy meat unless I know where it came from, which means I damn sure don’t frequent the meat counter at WallyWorld. We eat very little red meat. When we do get red meat, my daughter insists we eat farm raised bison because next to venison, it is the leanest red meat you can get and she worries about my cardiovascular system. We would have a little garden if it were not for the fact our entire yard used to be the river bed of a fast moving mountain stream a few eons ago. It is a solid mass of river rocks covered with a thin layer of topsoil. Simply setting out a rosebush is a major work project.

    Our next door neighbor cut down almost two dozen oak trees. There was absolutely nothing wrong with any of them. These were enormous trees, and when I checked the growth rings, they ranged from 160 years up to over 250 years old. I never did get an exact count on the older trees. When I got to about 250+ rings, I lost count and was not about to start over. He hated squirrels, birds, and leaves. Now his house sits in an island of bare grass and his heating bill went througth the roof. Good! đź‘ż

    Not too long after he cut down all those trees, the guy died. His obituary had a line, “He liked to mow his lawn.” OMFG!

    We lost a few trees to lighning and disease. I am replacing them with pecan trees and possibly some apple trees. Pecan trees are fast growning compared to hickory and other nut trees. That will attract critters and we will have more nuts and fruit than we can eat. We already have a really tall black walnut tree that makes a huge amout of nuts. It is a race with the squirrels as to who gets them first.

  5. One might just totally depend on govt to do the correct things, but most of the time you’ll find yourselves disappointed.

    Or you could see what you can do with your & your friends actions to fix your concerns.

    So you wish to slow/stop animal abuse, you might watch this video & think about the animals that you bought prepackage at MickyD’s, WalMart, at the restaurant…

    My wife & I changed the way were living because about 15 years ago we started looking at these many issues seriously.

    Most all the food in our home today looks nothing like it did years back.

    We saved a bunch of money doing so & continue to reinvest the saving in long term capital projects. Yes, eat better & save doing so.

    What can you do?

  6. If we are to correct any problem we have to understand where the problem is, what it is & what are the options to address the problem.

    I’m not sure who the polecats in Montana are that came up with this crazy permit scheme, but their face on the scam cannot stand the light of day.

    Oath Keepers Founder, Stewart Rhodes & Pastor Chuck Baldwin both live in Montana I believe. One might contact them to see what the heck is going on.

    The video below is the last video of the series I posted yesterday.

    It’s about attempting to fix these many problems so I’m supportive.

  7. Mike,
    The argument made by Mac reminds me of something I heard a long time ago. “We had to destroy the village to save it.”

  8. I can’t speak to the wolf scheme, but the drama queen bit over African Big Game hunting of elephants is not only much ado about nothing, it’s misplaced.

    Regulated African big game hunting is the elephants best friend……With managed hunting fees of upwards of $50,000.00 per elephant tag, pay for Professional Hunters, guides, the local villages that harvest and eat the meat, lodging fees, a big game hunt can pump $100,000.00 per hunter can pump large cash into very poor communities that incentivize African Governmemts to hire rangers to fight the elephants real enemies, poachers and habitat loss……Keeping reserves that keep elephant populations healthy and culling responsible numbers.

    In other words, responsible hunters doors to protect elephants and other big game than all the whiny Disney outrage crowd.

    1. “Regulated African big game hunting is the elephants best friend……With managed hunting fees of upwards of $50,000.00 per elephant tag, pay for Professional Hunters, guides, the local villages that harvest and eat the meat, lodging fees, a big game hunt can pump $100,000.00 per hunter can pump large cash into very poor communities that incentivize African Governmemts to hire rangers to fight the elephants real enemies, poachers and habitat loss……Keeping reserves that keep elephant populations healthy and culling responsible numbers.

      In other words, responsible hunters doors to protect elephants and other big game than all the whiny Disney outrage crowd.”

      Mac,

      I’m not against hunting. However, I don’t personally care for the kind of conceited ass that would pay $50,000 to $100,000 to shoot an elephant in the face. All his/her “trophies” prove is that they have enough money to thoughtlessly kill a large animal to display their faux courage.

  9. Beldar: Don’t you all eat snails in France? And what is it that ants and humans have in common that you would do a joint study of both species?

  10. Yeah, these Great White Hunters are the same schmucks who will intentionally run over a turtle crossing the road with their vehicles.

  11. Beldar: The consensus of the dogpac here is that male humans who are impotent or fear that they will be impotent, have this notion that if they blast an animal with a firearm that they will prove themselves worthy of their notion of manliness. That is why they like to tie the dead deer on the hood of the car and parade through town after the hunt by the Great White Hunter is over with. They seldom hide the dead body under a tarp in the back of a pickup.

  12. I am here doing a study for the folks back home on planet Remulak. I am tasked to study two species: humanoids and ants. This hunting aspect of the humanoids is perplexing. Is there some innate thrill in killing some animal with a high powered rifle and the animal has no way to fight back? Please let me know your thoughts. But don’t believe that I am really from another planet. I am from France. But I do need some more information on this humanoid thing about killing wild animals. On Remulak we would call it a “Sport” if the two sides were evenly matched. That guy the other day who killed the elephant with the rifle did not explain his motivation very well either. Help me out here.

  13. RTC

    if memory serves the article was on an interior dept/national forest service website. they are all shut down right now.

  14. RTC

    pass the tinfoil

    i believe i read the same article on wolf reintroduction. i turns out by keeping the moose population in check it stabilized river banks. too many moose eating too many willows.

    i’ll see if i can find the article.

  15. https://www.facebook.com/theonlygoodwolfisadeadwolf

    If you read the comments on this facebook page, you’ll see the attitude of Montana / Idaho ranchers and elk hunters. Wolves are killing “their” elk and “their” livestock on “their” land, and therefore need to be “taught a lesson” often with the most painful and protracted death possible. Their motto is to “Smoke a pack a day” in reference to wiping out entire wolf populations.

  16. G0d damm it! WTF!! This is outrageous. BULLSHIT. I thought that the states were supposed to develop responsible management plans in order to be given rights to wolf management within their borders.

    Make no mistake, this is part of an overall orchestrated attack on clean water. Bear with me. Here’s my crazy, tin-foil hat theory: from wolf eradication out West, Tar Sands contamination up North, montaintop removal in the East, to fracking, well, everywhere, along with the weakening of the Clean Water act in the S. Ct., there is a serious reduction of clean water resources taking place on this continent. More of my tinsel headdress: the corptocracy has discovered that we’re willing to actually pay dearly for water, bottle and jug. Once they’ve reduced the amount of clean, treatable water to a trickle they’ve got us by the short and curlies. Game Over.

    OS was correct. The overwhelming majority of anmals taken by wolves are the sick, old, and feeble, the very animals hunters will not take. These unfit animals compete with the fit and healthy, reducing resources in the environment. All that is well established. The reduction is felt most acutely in riparian areas, where streambank vegetation is critcal for reducing siltation through erosion. Studies have shown that vegetation in riparian areas rebounded where wolves were reintroduced. (Citations to follow at a later date. I’m way too pi$$ed to look that shit up right now.)

    P.S. Brittius: relocating wolves has severely limited chances for success. Relocating them to areas where feral hogs are thriving is fraught with problems, such as the fact that wolc=ves range over greater territories than the hogs, and hogs are better at cohabiting with humans. Because so much of the life of the pack revolves around raising the litter of the alpha’s, spaynig and neutering would be like giving them a lobotomy.

    I voted for Obama; put an Obama sticker on my hardhat while I was working in the heart of redneck, blue-collar Wisconsin, studying for a degree in ecology. And when Obama brought in Salazar, I had misgivings; when they developed this horseshit plan, I knew – we got chumped. Everything that followed, Guantamino, pot arrests, drones, NSA spying, CIA pardons, Wall St. free passes – everything – was no surprise. at first, I thought Obama was simply naive by trying to shore up support in states that were never going to vote to reelect him. Now, I’m convinced that Big Corp is pulling the same number on us, with water, that Sherman and Sheridan pulled on Native Americans and the bufflao.

    I’m imploring, no, I’m begging readers here to contact the white house (I’ll wait for the laughter to die down). Ok, please contact the white house, the dept. of interior, Fish and Wilflife, and your elected officials. If you’re a lawyer and you feel up for a righteous fight, may I suggest you offer your services to the several groups who will no doubt be trying to halt this crap.

  17. This story is disgusting. As suggested earlier this is a pure brazen attempt to kill off the species in that state.

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