Submitted by Elaine Magliaro, Weekend Contributor
Cliven Bundy, the Nevada rancher and scofflaw, was hailed by some people as a folk hero and patriot recently when he—and his followers–engaged in a standoff with the Bureau of Land Management (BLM). Caty Enders (Esquire) described the scene in Bunkerville, Nevada, as pundits and politicians descended on the Bundy camp last week “to throw in their American flag hats with the BLM protestors.” She said that a FOX News van had been parked by the side of the road for days—and that “militia snipers kept a trained watch” up on a ridge “as Bundy held court.” She added that disciples of Bundy came from far and wide “to share their personal theories as to why the government was enforcing a court order.”
Bundy has had a number of advocates who have spoken in support of his militant stance against the BLM. Those advocates included some prominent politicians and members of the media. Sean Hannity was one of Bundy’s biggest boosters and helped to make him into a folk hero. Hannity talked with Bundy on a number of occasions on his Fox News show. Joan Walsh (Salon) asked a pertinent question about Bundy on Friday: “How does a guy who declared early on ‘I don’t recognize the United States government as even existing’ become a folk hero in the first place?” She said that both Hannity and Fox News should have realized that the Nevada rancher was “too toxic” prior to his “ongoing self-exposure as a racist.” She added that the extremism of Bundy’s statement about the US government “should have been warning enough that Bundy was not only crazy but dangerous…”
Enders posed a question that was in the same vein as Walsh’s: “Exactly how difficult was it, though, to determine pretty early on that Bundy and his followers were using the threat of force to back up some terrifyingly misguided beliefs?” Enders provided some insight into the thinking and beliefs of Bundy and disciples of his with whom she talked.
Members of the Bundy Brigade Speak Out
Enders spoke to a militia member named Mark who was affiliated with the Oath Keepers group. Mark explained to her “the truth behind public land management.” He said, “The assumption is that the BLM is part of the federal government. But we need to check the facts on that one. The BLM doesn’t work for the government: they work for the United Nations. They might as well be wearing blue helmets. If we find out there’s money being exchanged between Harry Reid and the Chinese government, no one should be surprised.”
Another Bundy disciple told Enders that “Bar-certified lawyers, like the ones who prosecuted Bundy, have sworn loyalty to the British government, whose statutes encourage sex with clients. ‘That’s what they do with all their clients.’”
Enders spent time talking to a former cop who chuckled as he related a story about one of his buddies who once worked as a sheriff in New Mexico. He said his buddy got into some trouble after he pulled over a group of illegals one night. He said his pal “didn’t have room to haul ‘em all, so he put a chain around their neck and put a padlock through it, went to the next one, then he chained ‘em to a tree!” Enders said that the former cop then buckled with laughter as he told her how his friend “left ‘em and went to town to get his pickup to haul ‘em all back in. So, you might imagine, that didn’t play well — ha! You’re a young’un, but everything wasn’t against the law, way back when.” The former cop also told Enders that it was now being proved that the Bureau of Land management was acting on orders “from Troy and Harry Reid, who want to build a solar farm on the land — or a wind farm.”
One of Bundy’s disciples drove a beige sedan covered with the following message:
IF YOU WERE BORN IN 1980 AND AFTER. YOU MAY BE IMPLANTED WITH A GOVERNMENT MICROCHIP WITHOUT YOUR KNOWLEDGE: GOOGLE DOCTORS THAT REMOVE MICROCHIPS.
Cliven Bundy, God’s Messenger
During the time that Enders spent at the Bundy camp, she witnessed one of the public addresses the Nevada rancher made to his followers. She said that as Bundy—who had just been given a standing ovation—took the stage, he didn’t seem pleased. She said that Bundy reproached the crowd “for failing to follow the word of God – to the letter …”— which he claimed was being “delivered through him.” He wasn’t happy that his supporters failed “to follow his instructions to tear down the toll booths at Lake Mead and disarm the Park Service.” Bundy added, “The message I gave to you all was a revelation that I received. And yet not one of you can seem to even quote it.” He continued, “The records of our bible — how long have they been kept? Thousands of years. They’ve been turned over generation after generation, buried, and all kinds of things happen to ‘em. And yet, here, something I felt was inspired [by God] and yet we haven’t even carried it forth for even a couple of days. Shame on us.”
Bundy expressed frustration because his followers hadn’t been able to deter the BLM “within an hour”—“as the revelation had prophesied.” When an hour had passed, Bundy reportedly got into his bulldozer and decided to march on the BLM himself. His dozer got stuck in the mud—and that led to Bundy’s receiving yet another revelation: “It come to my mind real plain — the good Lord said, ‘Bundy, it’s not your job, it’s THEIR job.’” Bundy reiterated that revelation a little differently in an effort to ensure that his followers understood what he had just told them, “This is not my job, it’s YOUR job.”
Bundy said that he received a message that morning after he prayed. He claimed that he heard a voice say, “Sheriff Gillespie, your work is not done. Every sheriff across the United States, take the guns away from the United States bureaucrats.”
Uncivil Disobedience
Even The Weekly Standard–as well as Glenn Beck–has been critical of Cliven Bundy. The magazine’s Scrapbook explained the whole Bundy situation with regard to grazing fees and court rulings. The Scrapbook said that what had transpired over the years didn’t sound “like the dread hand of tyranny, in Nevada or Washington, oppressing an innocent farmer, or pushing some law-abiding citizen around.” It said it sounded, instead, “like a rancher gaming the system to his own financial advantage, and disguising his scheme in populist rhetoric: refusing to pay a tax which others must pay, and ‘tying up the courts’—for two decades!—as he continues to ignore the law.”
The Weekly Standard:
Far from acting in an arbitrary or capricious manner, the federal government has shown patience and forbearance in the face of lawlessness that customarily lands people in jail. It is worth noting that Bundy’s rancher-neighbors and the Nevada Cattlemen’s Association, who contend with the same federal policies, offer him little support.
Apocalypse Cow – Welfare Rancher, Part 1 (The Daily Show)
Apocalypse Cow – Welfare Rancher, Part 2 (The Daily Show)
SOURCES
Fox News’ new laughingstock: Cliven Bundy — and Stephen Colbert — will destroy Sean Hannity (Salon)
Uncivil Disobedience (The Weekly Standard)
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mhj: What can I say, dude. There was a time when speaking the truth didn’t incur censorship. But apparently there’s one man with the power to change all that.
Find out how much he paid to get Turley on retainer and you, too can say whatever you want without getting your pee-pee spanked.
RTC
That’s what I suspected and was hoping to elicit. Old unhealed wounds stirring the pot.
Gene
I don’t think so. I asked you what you agenda was. Your response was enlightenment and I responded with what I observed which to my mind didn’t quite jive with enlightenment. Not trying to ruffle feathers and I’ll take you a your word. Enlightenment it is. But i sure smell smoke.
Enlightenment depends on what kind of bulbs we use in order not to pollute it. 🙂
Thank you, Chuck
mhj: What you think are banalities are quite meaningful in the context of what occurred here before you arrived. Maybe some day you’ll understand.
Until then, good luck.
Just curious. Your posts are confusing, flipping from banalities to the equivalent dumping gasoline on a house fire . Just trying to get grounded in the blog personalities.
Thanks Gene
Elaine,
Just catching up. I’m very sorry about your loss. Under ordinary circumstances, I marvel at the terrific job that you do. To do it now, when you must have so much on your mind and with a heavy heart, is extraordinary.
Be well.
I didn’t know about the correction.
It’s your civility rule.
Certainly, you know that the threads meander in all sorts of directions. This one has taken an entirely different track. So now, it’s the conversation, the sort that might occur between real people. Whats interesting to me is…
1) You note that “we” truly understand my frustration, yet you have deleted everything I had to say. How is anyone else supposed to truly understand my frustration?
2) The original comment that you deleted was nothing but sincere and constructive criticism, words for all to live by.
The civility rule was implemented to discourage trollery, the sort of behavior people often engage on the internet, hiding behind their anonymity to express their hostility.
My comment was not trollery. I would not hestitate to speak as frankly as I did to people I know. Personally. In the real world. Of flesh and blood. I know something of the people involved here, and I felt license to speak like a real person.
My comment was not hostile, but a well intentioned explanation of why someone didn’t appreciate someone else’s sincerity. You could’ve included portions in your civility rule.
I don’t know what the deal is with the special status for some commenters and not others. It’s been alluded to often, but there is confirmation in your decisions here this evening.
How far would a lawyer get in court or his/her career if she/he always complained of hurt feelings? Why should this forum be much different?
By censoring me, you have become what you denounce, and muzzled sincere communication among the participants here. It’s a shame, I know you had higher hopes.
Watch it TM, yoou said the magic word
Even if it could be shown to an impartial arbiter that I was uncivil, what privacy did I violate
RTC, you are referring to one of your deletions tonight which mistakingly referred to a privacy as opposed to a civility rule. It was changed and acknowledged the error. You have been repeatedly deleted for violating our civility rule. With that said, please allow the comments section to return to the discussion on the various stories and posts.
alright Prof. Just help me understand how I violated some privacy rule.
Hold on there RTC if made a guest blogger this site would fold. Just my summation.
Hmmmmmm, interesting silence from the kvetch.
RTC, I have again deleted a post referencing the same poster. I ask you again to drop the digs at the poster and move on. We all truly understand that you are unhappy with the poster and with the management.
Prof: My original post was intended to end the tit-for-tat attacks. Because someone claims distress, does not necessarily make the comment distressful.
It isnt a question managing a blog more fairly. It’s question managing a blog fairly
Gene: I see, and pointing out how some people don’t appreciate being attacked is somehow uncivil.
This is getting ridiculous
RTC:
It is the best way but who decides on what blood matters?