The Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIS) continues to show the world how systemic murder and terror can be justified in the name of religion as the work of the faithful. Now, after brutalizing the population of Mosul, ISIS has turned its attention to those godless tramps of fashion: mannequins. ISIS has ordered that all mannequins be covered in veils as another application of medieval Sharia law.
The reason is the prohibition under Sharia law of depictions of the human form. Somehow covering the face excuses the fact that the rest of the mannequin is the human form, but Allah is apparently satisfied by a cloth over the face according to ISIS.
Mannequins continue to be the focus of clerics who seek to block their corrosive impact on the morals of society (here and here).
On the positive side, this is the most moderate move of ISIS which notably did not behead the mannequins in a public execution after forcing them to convert to Islam.
mespo727272 wrote “In the 60s my mother had to wear a veil at church to approach the altar”
Karen S wrote “[the veil] did not hide the face, and the hair could still be seen underneath”
I grew up in a Catholic household a long time ago. I remember masses conducted in Latin. I remember being forced to wear a sport coat and tie during the summer in an non-airconditioned church and fainting as a result. Actually I fainted quite a few times due to the heat. I remember priests swinging a golden device filled with burning incense, with the trajectory almost becoming horizontal at each end. The mixture of heat and incense almost made me puke. I’m sure someone here (Nick?) knows what ceremony the swinging incense is used in.
I saw many woman and girls wearing a scarf of some sort or a piece of lace covering the top of their head. Perhaps really old women wore a face veil (though I do not remember that), but I do not remember girls, young women, or middle-aged women wearing it.
saucy – you missed the pleasure of being an altar boy and wearing wool cassocks in that heat. The swinging incense thingie is called a censer and it is used usually when the Eucharist is exposed to the congregation. There are some that take several people to push and swing out over the entire congregation.
It is a bizarre understanding of a god or goddess that: 1. people need to worship such a being at all 2. that people need to dress in a certain way to be pleasing to that being.
These two aspects of religiosity clearly belong to the human realm. Powerful people need to be “worshiped” and need control over the human body for their own purposes.
If your god or goddess needs you to worship them and in any way abnegate yourself to the authority of others then I would definitely suggest picking a different god/dess.
Karen – that veil was more like a small dolly.
Paul, no, but it sounds like fun. One of the libraries in my area has it so — road trip!
Not that I don’t deeply enjoy Christians/Catholics being bashed by the Muslim apologists each and every time Islamic Extremists misbehave, but here is some information on the Catholic “veil.” It was a little scrap of lace that was part of the dress code to approach the alter/take Communion in the Catholic church. It was not worn all the time – it was just the dress code at church. It did not hide the face, and the hair could still be seen underneath. Men and women were expected to wear “Sunday best.” You are to recall that this tradition persisted until around 60 years ago, when ladies still wore gloves and adorable little hats to go shopping.
Pope John XXIII made sweeping reforms in a meeting known as Vatican II.
http://www.cleveland.com/religion/index.ssf/2009/01/vatican_ii_reforms_set_in_moti.html
po@minutebol, read the following article written by a Muslim.
The Problem of Abrogation in the Quran
http://answering-islam.org/Authors/Farooq_Ibrahim/abrogation.htm
Saucy
you could not be any wronger regarding the order of the quran and abrogation and M’s plans regarding it and Muslims beliefs in some or the others. You cannot use an enemy source to explain an enemy thought, that is lazy and rather dishonest. Ask your local Muslim here, moi, and I’ll gladly explain. ALL THE QURANIC AYATS ARE VALUED, especially the “most peaceful ones”. THE FACT THAT SOME MAY BE ABROGATED, AND ONLY THE HIGHLY LEARNED KNOW WHICH IS A MATTER OF tempering actually, as it gives Muslims pause before taking any too literally and acting out of turn.
po – I could not disagree more. The thoughts of the enemy are the ones to look at regardless of how they interpret or misinterpret the source. Knowing your enemy is key to defeating him/her/it.
Also, in this week in God–Ken Ham has declared that NASA should not seek to go to the moon or any other planets because all aliens are, a priori, damned!
This is a profound quote that I found: “The main reason that the following destructive cult tactics are so damaging to both the individual and society is because they debilitate rationality and reduce empathy. Rationality and empathy are indispensable in making good personal and social decisions (see An Informed Decision). History is littered with personal and social catastrophes where a lack of rationality and lack of empathy were its core causes.”
I believe this applies in any group though, not just what the write describes as destructive cults.
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http://www.myownmind.com/warningsigns.cfm
Nick wrote “We were told during the 2012 election the war of terror was winding down.”
I dislike Obama more and more each day, but neither party will admit there is a problem with Islam itself. In my opinion, we should immediately close the immigration gate to all Muslims except for ones who helped us in Iraq and Afghanistan as translators and the like. And then we should open the gate even wider for Christians, Zoroastrians, and other non-violent people being killed in Islamic countries.
I completely disagree with people like Eric on the subject of “staying the course” in Islamic countries. To quell Islamic fever, we would need to station troops in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Nigeria, South Sudan, Somalia, Yemen, Kuwait, and all other Islamic / Islamist-influenced countries until the end of time, as there has never been a peaceful Islamic democracy. We need to spend that money here on Americans and infrastructure.
Greg, Great info, thanks.
More trouble: Move over Hamas here comes ISIS
Hamas seems to be losing control of the dozens of terror cells in the Gaza Strip. Hamas prevented local journalists from covering the ISIS rally in the Gaza Strip last month as part
of its effort to deny the existence of ISIS in the Gaza Strip. But Hamas seems to be trying to cover the sun with one finger.
Palestinian Authority [PA] and Israeli security sources are convinced that followers of ISIS in the Gaza Strip are responsible for some of the recent rocket attacks on Israel.
Hamas, they say, seems to be losing control over the dozens of terror cells belonging to ISIS and other jihadi groups.
Hamas is obviously nervous about the presence of ISIS terrorists in the Gaza Strip and sees them as a direct challenge to its rule.
ISIS believes that Hamas is “too moderate” and is not doing enough to achieve the destruction of Israel.
Molte Grazie, Darren.
Annie, I was only referring to students in the U.S. Civilized countries, e.g. Canada, the U.S., Europe, Australia, etc., would all be places to implement such a scheme. The UK has many cases where girls are taken to other countries to be mutilated, yet they have never bothered to erect large signs at the airport informing girls that they can stop the madness by screaming.
The girls in Iraq and all other Islamic countries are fvcked and there is nothing we can do about it.
P.S. In my previous post, change “anyone reads to read” to “anyone wants to read.”
Any woman that makes it out of one of those hell holes, should never consider going back. And I would council young women to never ever go to their husband’s home country if they’ve married a Muslim from one of the ever increasing extremist Islamic countries.
bigfatmike wrote “Lets not forget their sisters the inflatable dolls who do so much to tempt men from the paths of righteousness.”
You leave my inflatable dolls out of this, okay? 😉
P.S. If anyone reads to read a bawdy, one-page story on sex dolls, read my blog post “Religious sex dolls” (saucymugwump.blogspot.com/2011/03/fiction-religious-sex-dolls.html).
saucy – have you seen Barbie Nation and the S&M Barbie and Ken dolls?
Help please, I just had a comment to Saucy eaten. Thanks much.
Saucy, I had not read that article, thanks. The MSM doesn’t seem to care much about Christians since many are atheists. But, genital mutilation will get the feminist atheists attention in the MSM. I guess you take what you can get. We were told during the 2012 election the war of terror was winding down. Al Qaeda and organized terror was on the run. Incredible. Bin Laden only dreamed about the power and depravity of ISIS. The Middle East culture, a male dominant culture to the extreme, understand only one thing, STRENGTH. We show weakness. We will be hit hard, probably after Obama is out of office. His lovely going away present to us.
Nick, I retrieved your comment at 9:55.
Saucy, well you have a point, but the majority of girls and women who would be affected are residents of northern Iraq, who would have no one to run to.
Crazy is as crazy does.
This reminds me of the beach scene in the original Mad Max movie.