The news continues to grow worse over global warming. The Peru meeting revealed new research showing that time is running out for humanity to act on climate change. Now to new reports indicate that we may have underestimate the rate of loss on the huge ice sheet of West Antarctica — new calculations under global warming could mean a rise in global sea levels of as much as 23 feet. That would create massive changes in the coasts of the world.
The research indicates that prior computer modeling efforts did not capture the full dynamics of what is happening with these ice sheets during global warming. The difference is immense when one considers that the Greenland ice sheet is 656,000 square miles long with an average thickness of over a mile. If that ice melts at a faster rate, it would result in costly global changes, including the loss of cities and islands.
The more complex models shows that the dimensions of the topography and melting factors should result in a much faster meltdown.
The first new study in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences by scientists at the University at Buffalo and several other institutions, used laser altimetry to measure almost 100,000 elevation points atop the Greenland ice sheet. The result is confirmation of a much higher melting process of about .68 millimeters of annual sea level rise rather than the previously estimated .29 millimeters per year.
A second student in Nature Climate Change by Amber Leeson from the University of Leeds looked at “supraglacial lakes,” which form atop the Greenland ice sheet. These lakes suddenly vanish through “moulins,” or crevasses, that plunge to depths far below the ice sheet. The study indicates that these lakes (which hold greater heat) will become more extensive with global warming and, through draining, accelerate melting.
There of course remain those who refuse to accept the vast majority of scientific researcher and experts on the fact of climate change. However, the concern is that we are passing a redline that divides an unpleasant world from an uninhabitable one.)
The result from Lima is being heralded as an improvement in securing agreement but the details show a substantial lack of consensus, including a refusal of countries to agree on a uniform way of accounting for emissions cuts. That is a critical issue since goals are meaningless if there is not uniform measuring of cuts. It was still more productive than past meetings but scientists warn that time is of the essence as the world continues to debate the most basic elements of a system of reduction of emissions.
Source: Washington Post
How ironic that the global warming trolls believe in fossil fuel industry, instead of understanding climate science empirical evidence that proves Anthropogenic Climate Disruption.
They fail to understand how climate change creates more sea ice in winter but neglect the evidence that proves land ice is continuing to melt.
They fail to understand how a cherry picked unusually warm 1998 El Nino year does not prove a surface temperature hiatus, but neglect the evidence that proves the oceans continued to heat up regardless of 1998.
Oh, The Bradley Stone US vet killer was the lead story on Jake Tapper and took up the first 8 minutes.
And, I’m doing this running to the bano after getting Montezuma’s revenge. I’m sharper than some folks here even operating @ 45%.
OMG x 2. I just remembered I busted on JT on this thread @ 11:31am. Bad day for a couple folks. “The truth shall make you free.”
OMG. I just remembered, @ 1:17pm today on the CIA has lost it’s soul thread I mentioned how I take JT to task on his environmental stance. So, there’s that, hamsters.
One of the many things I like about this forum is there is a record. It catches liars and also helps truthful people defend themselves against lies. The record over the past 2 plus years I’ve been here is replete w/ me taking JT to task on his environmental views. Hamsters only have the memory span of several hours. Just sayn’!!
Max, they let loose on the commenters instead of JT, because they think it’s safer for them that way. They think we won’t notice, lol.
I should take Albert Einsteins advice and ignore science trolls…
http://www.iflscience.com/physics/albert-einstein-told-marie-curie-ignore-haters
Dear Nick
What is Mr Turley’s post if not propaganda, yes?
I mean, I agree with him and you and your H8R clan berate facts and call people names. Yet, reserve such H8 not for Mr Turley. Cake and eat it too?
I drive two 69 V-8 powered cars. I love it.
Hoax,
In the age of Google, some display great command of ignorance, no?
When a troll like “hoax” appears, it is prudent to ignore it.
Question:
If my posts are propaganda…
… What is Mr. Turley’s post?
I merely agree with him.
Funny…
I’m out, chillins. Carry on displaying your brilliance amongst yourselves. It’s been a treat, as always. I never get tired of seeing you folks pretend.
“I don’t care about global warming but I drive a very fuel efficient auto, turn my thermostat to 68 in the winter and 78 in the summer. How about you?”
You don’t care about global warming, yet you like to pretend to others that you know more than the world’s leading climate scientists? Interesting.
I keep my house at 55 and don’t own a car. Beat that.
You are the smartest street person or your name is Al or you are a liar, hypocrite, or both.
Comment in moderation at 2:33. Please release?
I’m quite satisfied that I have science on my side on this. Thanks for pretending that you do, though! It’s always quite entertaining to watch deniers pretend that they know more than thousands of the world’s leading climate scientists! Please, don’t ever stop pretending, because I find it hilarious!
“Well. At least I know how to spell altar.”
Gosh, I guess you win then! You’re really, really smart, so you OBVIOUSLY know more than those idiots at NASA and NOAA! LMAO!!
Your ignorance offers a high degree of probability that you worship at the alter of the Limbaugh and the Fox. Sorry about that.
Well. At least I know how to spell altar.
Evidently, ignorance is when people do not walk in lock step with you and disagree with your agenda and there is only one side to the story or one set of evidence you are willing to consider. Hardly the scientific way, which is to keep an open mind. Yours is quite shut.
Sorry about that….for you.
hoax, my butt,
Speaking of ignorance, it seems to be your favorite put down, you are showing plenty on bringing out the uncertainty principle. If I guided my life on that, I would not even get out of bed. I can come up with more “What if'” scenarios than our wonderful govt. could spend money on. Also, you are ignorant if you think renewable energy can provide base load energy for a country the size of the US. AGW comes down to weather you are a Neo-Malthusian or a Cornucopian. I have always been the later.
Hoax,
Mr. Adrian Vance did that. If you would visit his blog, he has an open invitation to readers to contact him, and he will email you a PDF copy of his book, ‘Vapor Tiger’.
Now, I do not know how far his generosity extends, but I believe it is worth a try for you. You seem to have a burning desire for the truth! He has hard math analysis done. It is a good read.
http://adrianvance.blogspot.com/2014/10/vapor-tiger.html
Gary T has also posted to the ‘Global Warming Notes’ blog, which has a ton of great mathematical and scientific analysis for you to take into consideration.
Something paraphrased from Vapor Tiger:
Reflecting surfaces can only be formed by solids and liquids where the molecules are in contact. In gases, they are not. CO2 cannot act as a ‘greenhouse gas’ when it cannot reflect heat via a surface.
A greenhouse typically has glass panel windows. At angles less than 45 degrees the sunlight does not penetrate the glass. Above the 45 degree mark, the contents of the greenhouse are heated by the sun, and the heat reflected back inward by the glass panel.
Gases by definition can not have a greenhouse effect.