In an injustice to both the liberty of a Kurdish man and free speech in general a court in Turkey handed down thirteen year sentence to a defendant accused of removing a Turkish flag at a military base near Diyarbakir, Turkey. The disproportionate sentence followed an outraged Recep Erdogan who declared after the act, “[w]e don’t care if he is a child. Even if a child dares to take down our sacred flag both him and those who send him there will pay a price.”
The subject incident occurred in June of 2014 following a clash in Diyarbakir between Kurdish protestors and Turkish soldiers in the Kurd populated east. The protesters voiced their grievances over what they believed to be an increasingly overbearing and domineering presence of the Turkish military within their homeland and the subjugation of their fellow citizens. Sadly, the protests turned violent and two protesters died in the tumult.
Resulting from the deaths, protests continued including the incident where one masked participant climbed a flagpole and removed the national flag, an act of defiance and protest.
The event though garnered considerable outrage, including both sides of the Kurdish issue. Erdogan, then Prime Minister, ordered the Interior Ministry to investigate.
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Imprisoned PKK (Kurdistan Workers’ Party) leader Abdulla Ocalan stated “We do not behave hurtfully toward symbols of any country,” and expressed his belief this was a provocative act. Similar statements followed from political leaders following news of the event that dominated Turkish media afterward.
When prodded into an investigation by any senior politician, one certainly can worry how fair the criminal justice system will actually be.
The courts ordered the arrest of Defendant Ömer Mutlu on August 9 of last year and this Friday handed down the thirteen year-nine month sentence.
It often follows when a society demotes a person to pariah levels, any punishments exacted upon them become harsh and insensitive. In the case of Mr. Mutlu, he received in his act of protest the full burden of outrage and vindictiveness within the populace. It undoubtedly weighed heavier upon one of the scales of justice for which he probably fared no chance of balance or proportionality to his transgression.
The flag and symbol of the Turkish Republic is certainly not one to deny the citizens of Turkey and its standing internationally, and that of course should be understood and respected as it is their right to embrace such beliefs.
We as Americans struggled with the same issue to some degree and the change our society experienced with flag desecration laws being eventually held unconstitutional when prosecuted against acts of free speech.
In the 1907 decision of Haller v. Nebraska the Supreme Court upheld a state law barring two businessmen from including an American flag on their beer products but began to move toward the notion of flags being a form of free speech in 1931 when it struck down a California law banning the flying of a red flag to protest the government.
Congress though in reacting to Vietnam War protests enacted in 1968 the Federal Flag Desecration Law. The law made it illegal to “knowingly” cast “contempt” upon “any flag of the United States by publicly mutilating, defacing, defiling, burning or trampling upon it.”
However, years later the Court ruled in Spence v. Washington that the act of applying a peace symbol to the private property American flag of the defendant was a form of protected free speech. Despite several states modifying their laws to accommodate the Court’s 1989 decision in Texas v. Johnson effectively ended criminal actions against those engaging in flag burning as free speech.
There are similarities between the cases of Mr. Mutlu and Gregory Lee Johnson. (From the decision)
While the Republican National Convention was taking place in Dallas in 1984, respondent Johnson participated in a political demonstration dubbed the “Republican War Chest Tour.” As explained in literature distributed by the demonstrators and in speeches made by them, the purpose of this event was to protest the policies of the Reagan administration and of certain Dallas-based corporations. The demonstrators marched through the Dallas streets, chanting political slogans and stopping at several corporate locations to stage “die-ins” intended to dramatize the consequences of nuclear war. On several occasions they spray-painted the walls of buildings and overturned potted plants, but Johnson himself took no part in such activities. He did, however, accept an American flag handed to him by a fellow protestor who had taken it from a flagpole outside one of the targeted buildings.
The demonstration ended in front of Dallas City Hall, where Johnson unfurled the American flag, doused it with kerosene, and set it on fire. While the flag burned, the protestors chanted, “America, the red, white, and blue, we spit on you.” After the demonstrators dispersed, a witness to the flag burning collected the flag’s remains and buried them in his backyard. No one was physically injured or threatened with injury, though several witnesses testified that they had been seriously offended by the flag burning.
Of the approximately 100 demonstrators, Johnson alone was charged with a crime. The only criminal offense with which he was charged was the desecration of a venerated object in violation of Texas Penal Code Ann. § 42.09(a)(3) (1989). [n1] After a trial, he was convicted, sentenced to one year in prison, and fined $2,000.
Justice Anthony Kennedy, writing for the 5-4 majority opined:
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The hard fact is that sometimes we must make decisions we do not like. We make them because they are right, right in the sense that the law and the Constitution, as we see them, compel the result,” Kennedy said. “And so great is our commitment to the process that, except in the rare case, we do not pause to express distaste for the result, perhaps for fear of undermining a valued principle that dictates the decision. This is one of those rare cases.”
“Though symbols often are what we ourselves make of them, the flag is constant in expressing beliefs Americans share, beliefs in law and peace and that freedom which sustains the human spirit. The case here today forces recognition of the costs to which those beliefs commit us. It is poignant but fundamental that the flag protects those who hold it in contempt.”
Miffed and feeling jilted, Congress reacted by enacting the Flag Protection act of 1989 which, predictably, was struck down by the Court in 1990. Congress still occasionally attempts to bypass the ruling. In fact the Senate nearly voted to amend the U.S. Constitution to ban flag desecration.
Turkey is as a society struggling with this and other issues related to free speech, but one has to question if the removal of a rectangular shaped canvas atop a pole justifies depriving a man of his freedom for over thirteen years and the upheaval of his life and that of his family. It truly becomes a political crime at this degree.
Though is easy to castigate a stranger into a pariah, the requisite outrage becomes quite tempered when the stone thrower’s freedom is stripped for insulting Stars and Stripes or Stars and Crescents.
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19 thoughts on “Court Sentences Man To 13 Years For Removing Turkish Flag”
Paul C. Schulte
TJustice – so…if I burn a copy of the US Tax Code, it is an act of heroism?
Tell him it has to be all of the code as freedom is slavery
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Well, first they will tear down flags, then next they will be throwing Mazel tov cocktails, and then looting liquor stores. If the first couple of people who try this get 17 years in prison, future demonstrations will probably be much more civil.
Squeeky Fromm
Girl Reporter
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Mr. Schulte,
What are some parts of the code that would be listed as authoritarian/imperial or just flat-out corrupt?
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Mr. Schulte,
In the majority of cases I think so.
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Burning symbols of imperialism and authoritarian policies is not a product of the rule of law. It’s a product of heroism.
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TJustice – so…if I burn a copy of the US Tax Code, it is an act of heroism?
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Flags, mascots, religious symbols, decals, insignia are all the same. They all have similar messages that show the world who you are before anyone knows who you are truly. I see a confederate flag and I immediately think redneck, racist, moron. I have no respect for that individual whatsoever. Yet I don’t know that person. I was working in Nome, AK in the early 90s and some guy wearing a rebel hat with confederate markings came up to this Yankee hat wearing New Yorker and started to yell about Damn Yankees! The south shall rise again! Yankees ruined the south! and so on. It was a remarkable encounter. I was judged by the Yankees symbol on my hat and I had prejudged him. Yet at the same time I worked closely and became good friends with a guy from Mississippi who was a Mississippi Rebels fan. Working together helped us both dispel some stereotypical beliefs.
My point being that all these symbols, flags included, often breed anger, hatred and dehumanization, as much as they may breed respect, admiration and common cause, since the person becomes the symbol. Too many symbols and not enough interaction. Rambling…..
Erdogan is becoming a despot as each decree, judgment and action seems to be more controlling, more punishing and less democratic (see Saudi Arabia and Syria). Usually these despots finally resort to genocide or some other barbaric means of control. I hope for the Turkish people that is not the case, but visions of Idi Amin, Pol Pot and Milosevic flashed before me….
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Personally, it deeply offends me to see our flag desecrated, but I agree with the judge that “the flag protects those who hold it in contempt.” Our right to Freedom of Speech is that important. Stories like what happened in Turkey are important to outline what the result will be if we feel that temptation again to protect our venerable flag.
A Somali shopkeeper in the city of Diepsloot named Amina Hassan Abd who fled her native country in 2007 and subsequently saw her shop destroyed, complained to al-Jazeera: “You need money to open the shop again, and I now have none. I don’t look like a South African, and I wear this [hijab]. Every day, I was getting too much trouble, people were swearing [at] me, they were shouting me, stealing my stuff … they don’t like us.”
Indeed, South African natives, burdened with a multitude of other ills, including severe unemployment, widespread poverty, rampant criminality and high rates of HIV-AIDS, seem unconcerned about the plight of foreigners in their country. The Sowetan newspaper reported that South Africans are becoming “increasingly desensitized” to attacks on foreign immigrants.
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After all these years of testing what the First Amendment actually is supposed to mean, I am surprised that in America, it is still a question as to whether a person can destroy a symbol publically, and it be considered a criminal offense.
As stated here previously, part of that symbol, the American Flag, is the imbued rights to criticize it itself, it is implicit and recursive.
Freedom of speech, and freedom of expression, if in particular addressing ideas, symbols, thoughts and perspectives, must be inviolate in America, and uninfringed.
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Kurds get no respect in the world. I can see why Christopher Hitchens was such a strong advocate.
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Like anything taken to extremes, nationalism can be good or bad. In some cases such as Mandela in South Africa it can be used to bind different groups into one.
The shame is how far Turkey (and the Turks) have fallen.
They used to be a western oriented country with a flawed but functional democracy.
Now they have a despot with Middle Eastern values.
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‘not looking to cause trouble here but a glass half full kind of guy in the Middle East would say he got off lucky. In any one of a half dozen other countries they would have given him a haircut in a parking lot, free admission. He’s lucky he’s not a Saudi.
Maybe we could trade this judge for the one who sentenced the guy to probation the other day?
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Like anything taken to extremes, nationalism can be good or bad. In some cases such as Mandela in South Africa it can be used to bind different groups into one. Or as in Hitler’s Germany it can be used to deny the rights of others in the same nation and is a curse on its neighbors. As we have found in this country, the question is the symbol of the nation more important than the principles which it stands for? Since the US is not defined by any one race, religion, or ideology, it is obvious that the principles are far more important. In sports competition, being for ones country is hardly a negative, yet trying to kill the opponent or beating them up is bad. So let’s use common sense and eschew all blanket statements as to nationalism is bad or good.
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It was previously reported that the cop in Ferguson shot the punk who had strong armed the liquor store because the punk not only assaulted him (the cop) but because the punk spat on the cop’s flag decal. Now some say that a flag decal wont get you into heaven any more. That heaven is already overcrowded from a dirty little war. Some will say that Jesus don’t like killing, no matter what the reason’s for. And that a flag decal wont get you into heaven anymore. But I say that a flag decal and a large Confederate Flag on the wall behind your desk in Jefferson City, MO when you are a lowly assistant attorney general for John Danforth will some day get you on the Supreme Court of the United States. And one who defiles the Confederate Flag and who appears before Justice Thomas is going to get the full measure of the law. We don’t call him Uncle Clarence round here for nothing. No, we have reasons. Now some of you might consider this comment to be a rant or gibberish. But think about it. Flags matter. Even in AmeriKa.
In an injustice to both the liberty of a Kurdish man and free speech in general a court in Turkey handed down thirteen year sentence to a defendant accused of removing a Turkish flag at a military base near Diyarbakir, Turkey. The disproportionate sentence followed an outraged Recep Erdogan who declared after the act, “[w]e don’t care if he is a child. Even if a child dares to take down our sacred flag both him and those who send him there will pay a price.”
In the 1907 decision of Haller v. Nebraska the Supreme Court upheld a state law barring two businessmen from including an American flag on their beer products but began to move toward the notion of flags being a form of free speech in 1931 when it struck down a California law banning the flying of a red flag to protest the government.
Paul C. Schulte
TJustice – so…if I burn a copy of the US Tax Code, it is an act of heroism?
Tell him it has to be all of the code as freedom is slavery
Well, first they will tear down flags, then next they will be throwing Mazel tov cocktails, and then looting liquor stores. If the first couple of people who try this get 17 years in prison, future demonstrations will probably be much more civil.
Squeeky Fromm
Girl Reporter
Mr. Schulte,
What are some parts of the code that would be listed as authoritarian/imperial or just flat-out corrupt?
Mr. Schulte,
In the majority of cases I think so.
Burning symbols of imperialism and authoritarian policies is not a product of the rule of law. It’s a product of heroism.
TJustice – so…if I burn a copy of the US Tax Code, it is an act of heroism?
Flags, mascots, religious symbols, decals, insignia are all the same. They all have similar messages that show the world who you are before anyone knows who you are truly. I see a confederate flag and I immediately think redneck, racist, moron. I have no respect for that individual whatsoever. Yet I don’t know that person. I was working in Nome, AK in the early 90s and some guy wearing a rebel hat with confederate markings came up to this Yankee hat wearing New Yorker and started to yell about Damn Yankees! The south shall rise again! Yankees ruined the south! and so on. It was a remarkable encounter. I was judged by the Yankees symbol on my hat and I had prejudged him. Yet at the same time I worked closely and became good friends with a guy from Mississippi who was a Mississippi Rebels fan. Working together helped us both dispel some stereotypical beliefs.
My point being that all these symbols, flags included, often breed anger, hatred and dehumanization, as much as they may breed respect, admiration and common cause, since the person becomes the symbol. Too many symbols and not enough interaction. Rambling…..
Erdogan is becoming a despot as each decree, judgment and action seems to be more controlling, more punishing and less democratic (see Saudi Arabia and Syria). Usually these despots finally resort to genocide or some other barbaric means of control. I hope for the Turkish people that is not the case, but visions of Idi Amin, Pol Pot and Milosevic flashed before me….
Personally, it deeply offends me to see our flag desecrated, but I agree with the judge that “the flag protects those who hold it in contempt.” Our right to Freedom of Speech is that important. Stories like what happened in Turkey are important to outline what the result will be if we feel that temptation again to protect our venerable flag.
Xenophobia in South Africa:
http://www.ibtimes.com/black-black-violence-african-immigrants-under-siege-south-africa-1296859
After all these years of testing what the First Amendment actually is supposed to mean, I am surprised that in America, it is still a question as to whether a person can destroy a symbol publically, and it be considered a criminal offense.
As stated here previously, part of that symbol, the American Flag, is the imbued rights to criticize it itself, it is implicit and recursive.
Freedom of speech, and freedom of expression, if in particular addressing ideas, symbols, thoughts and perspectives, must be inviolate in America, and uninfringed.
Kurds get no respect in the world. I can see why Christopher Hitchens was such a strong advocate.
Is that a joke?.:
http://www.genocidewatch.org/southafrica.html
http://www.redoctober.co.za/genocide-of-the-boer-in-south-africa/
The shame is how far Turkey (and the Turks) have fallen.
They used to be a western oriented country with a flawed but functional democracy.
Now they have a despot with Middle Eastern values.
‘not looking to cause trouble here but a glass half full kind of guy in the Middle East would say he got off lucky. In any one of a half dozen other countries they would have given him a haircut in a parking lot, free admission. He’s lucky he’s not a Saudi.
Reblogged this on Oyia Brown.
Maybe we could trade this judge for the one who sentenced the guy to probation the other day?
Like anything taken to extremes, nationalism can be good or bad. In some cases such as Mandela in South Africa it can be used to bind different groups into one. Or as in Hitler’s Germany it can be used to deny the rights of others in the same nation and is a curse on its neighbors. As we have found in this country, the question is the symbol of the nation more important than the principles which it stands for? Since the US is not defined by any one race, religion, or ideology, it is obvious that the principles are far more important. In sports competition, being for ones country is hardly a negative, yet trying to kill the opponent or beating them up is bad. So let’s use common sense and eschew all blanket statements as to nationalism is bad or good.
It was previously reported that the cop in Ferguson shot the punk who had strong armed the liquor store because the punk not only assaulted him (the cop) but because the punk spat on the cop’s flag decal. Now some say that a flag decal wont get you into heaven any more. That heaven is already overcrowded from a dirty little war. Some will say that Jesus don’t like killing, no matter what the reason’s for. And that a flag decal wont get you into heaven anymore. But I say that a flag decal and a large Confederate Flag on the wall behind your desk in Jefferson City, MO when you are a lowly assistant attorney general for John Danforth will some day get you on the Supreme Court of the United States. And one who defiles the Confederate Flag and who appears before Justice Thomas is going to get the full measure of the law. We don’t call him Uncle Clarence round here for nothing. No, we have reasons. Now some of you might consider this comment to be a rant or gibberish. But think about it. Flags matter. Even in AmeriKa.
Wonderful are the fruits of “Nationalism”.