Corsi Files Complaint Against Mueller For Allegedly Pressuring Him To Lie

Conservative author Jerome Corsi yesterday filed a “criminal and ethics complaint” against Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s team trying to coerce him into giving “false testimony” against President Trump.  The filing was reportedly sent to a scattershot list of addresses including Acting Attorney General Matthew Whitaker, DOJ Inspector General Michael Horowitz, D.C.’s U.S. Attorney Jessie Liu and the Bar Disciplinary Counsel.  There is no strong legal basis for such a challenge. If Corsi is charged, he is likely to be charged for alleged false statements and courts rarely explore the motivations in bringing otherwise valid criminal charges. The filing appears designed for public consumption before any indictment is brought against him.

The 78-page document declares that “Dr. Corsi has been criminally threatened and coerced to tell a lie and call it the truth.” He alleges that prosecutors wanted him to state that he acted as a liaison between Stone and WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange to implication the Trump campaign by extension through Stone.  To forcer him to give false testimony, Corsi alleges, Mueller’s office is now “knowingly and deceitfully threatening to charge Dr. Corsi with an alleged false statement.”

If Corsi is indicted as he has predicted, his counsel could be hit with a gag order on public statements. This filing could be intended to get the full record out to the public before any charge.

It is very difficult for any office to act on an allegation based on interviews with prosecutors, particularly before any charge has been brought.  Prosecutors and police will often push witnesses with accusations and demands.  However, if the charge is based on independent grounds, courts are leery of speculating on motive.  After all, if Mueller’s team truly believes that Corsi was a critical player with Wikileaks, they are allowed to press a witness on that theory.

182 thoughts on “Corsi Files Complaint Against Mueller For Allegedly Pressuring Him To Lie”

  1. After all, if Mueller’s team truly believes that Corsi was a critical player with Wikileaks, they are allowed to press a witness on that theory.

    And if a trophy hunter truly believes a wolf is outside of the protected land, they are allowed to shoot it on that theory.

    See how that works? Sometimes what is lawful just ain’t gonna sit right with certain folk. Come on Turley, if you had any reasoned compassion (or stones), you’d see the justice in hunting the wolf and the routine injustice done by federal prosecutors.

    1. Yep. Looks like Turley pulled back the curtain and gives inside baseball type look at our criminal justice system: if persecutors have theories then they can move with unfettered zealotry on potential witnesses with culture of defense attorneys and judges turning blind eye on this type of abusive behavior.

      1. The truly sad reality is how comfortable our constitutional scholar host is at describing how lawfare works without a hint of the injustice of it.

        1. it’s not sad. it’s reality though. it may seem harsh but try dealing with a PRC prosecutor if you want o know what “potential for abuse of power” really looks like

          it’s been well known for decades that the federal prosecutors can “indict a ham sandwich” and yes maybe people should take it all with a lot more grains of salt

          criminal indictments are ALLEGATIONS and only that. not proven until they’re proven!

          good for Corsi for fighting.

            1. well ok fair enough but for a lawyer it’s not sad.

              law school is filled every day with disillusionments and then practice is more of the same.

              why are we so cynical? here you can see it all played out.
              laws and sausages what did bismark say

              1. In high school I wanted to be a forester. I loved the woods and thought that would be an awesome career choice. Then a guidance counselor suggested I look at how well (or not) it pays. That reality changed my mind.

                As the old line goes, ignorance is bliss. I cannot think of one profession that doesn’t disillusion its practitioners at some point. This is why honoring oaths is important. Just because one knows so much isn’t an excuse to abandon ethics, morality, and the principles of the thing. The law is no different.

      2. dont shoot the messenger. he’s just saying how it is. Corsi’ statement is fair dinkum but not much anybody can do with it…. yet

  2. Damn, did you have a room reserved in the Moscow Trump tower? America love it or leave it?

  3. Corsi claims in his lawsuit that he is a “Recognized and distinguished investigative journalist” And in Trump world that means Alex Jones is the same as Walter Cronkite and David Brinkley. For JT in his first words to write conservative author must mean Joseph Goebbels was just a reporter for a German newspaper.

    1. FishyWings you imply that because Corsi is flakey in your view, that he not be treated fairly by special counsel. This is an obvious slippery slope that cuts both ways.

      1. Corsi is a propaganda minister plain and simple. And a great con-man that makes money selling lies to the very people he claims to represent. Facts will bury his lawsuit.

        1. Ok Fishy you just shared more of your personal opinions on Corsi but you skirt around whether he still has the right to be treated fairly by special counsel.

          1. So far the OSC has been treating Corsi as though he really were a journalist. The questions is: Why didn’t Stone ask Guccifer 2.0 for the damned emails that Stone sent Corsi to get from Assange? And the answer is: Because Stone and Corsi already knew that Guccifer 2.0 was the GRU. Just like the dog that didn’t bark because the dog was friendly with the horse thief. Ha-Ha! Tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock . . . whimper.

              1. I posted at 9:21 AM. You replied at 3:28 PM. Your bells don’t tell either of those times. From what time zone are you posting?

    2. your vaunted media journalists are garbage. their decades of biased, anti-conservative, anti-Republican partisanship has made an alternative press necessary. there are no apologies offered.

  4. There is no strong legal basis for such a challenge.

    See Glenn Reynolds on this point. In a just world, judges and prosecutors would face discipline in front of mixed panels of laymen and retired attorneys. The immunity they currently have is one they have conferred upon themselves, and is unjust.

    One proper constitutional provision would be to subject bad men in the legal profession to the bill of attainder. The penalty: loss of citizenship and exile.

  5. I think Corsi has decided he is not going down without a fight. Also, his statement puts new light on Cohen’s confession. We have to re-look at his manufactured guilty plea. What was the upside for Cohen?

    1. Mueller has emails proving that Cohen lied to Congress.

      Corsi has decided that he might as well put up a fight while going down hard, anyway.

      1. L4Yoga/Annie/Inga enables David Benson, and the NPCs R. Lien and Marky Mark Mark – if Mueller has emails proving Cohen lied to Congress then it is his job to give those emails to Congress immediately. Congress decides if it is a crime, not him. They are the complaining party.

        1. The Chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, Richard Burr, has been on TV publicly bragging about his Committee’s many criminal referrals to the Special Cousel’s Office. The emails at issue were cited in the criminal information for Cohen’s guilty plea.

  6. Some words of wisdom from one of America’s greatest lawman:
    “The prosecutor has more control over life, liberty, and reputation than any other person in America. His discretion is tremendous…While the prosecutor at his best is one of the most beneficent forces in our society, when he acts from malice or other base motives, he is one of the worst…If the prosecutor is obliged to choose his cases, it follows that he can choose his defendants. Therein is the most dangerous power of the prosecutor: that he will pick people that he thinks he should get, rather than pick cases that need to be prosecuted” by Robert Jackson as Attorney General of the United States 1940 (later he served as a U.S. Supreme Court Justice and Nuremberg Prosecutor during World War II prosecuting Nazis war criminals).

    For those not familiar, the “U.S. Department of Justice” is not an entirely accurate title, it is essentially a federal agency of prosecutors. This agency sometimes does great things but it also does some really bad things also, even obstructing justice and allowing material evidence – affecting outcomes of court cases – to be destroyed. For example: there is no wartime exemption from felony crimes like torture, extrajudicial assassinations, warrantless wiretapping (pre-9/11) or false imprisonment programs (Ashcroft’s abuses of the Material Witness Statute). Both the U.S. Department of Justice and the FBI chose not to enforce those federal criminal statutes that are still in force during wartime. It’s also important to remember the “foundation” of this case contained a huge conflict-of-interest. A former FBI Director investigating a case involving another FBI Director. Neither one enforced statutes governing torture, extra judicial assassinations, warrantless wiretapping or false imprisonment programs.

    From one of likely hundreds of thousands, Post 9/11 Blacklisting victims, this plaintiff has still not received an official apology, official explanation or financial reimbursement from any U.S. Attorney or any FBI Director at the “Justice” Department. Years ago I asked an FBI operator for an apology from Mueller himself. The FBI operator refused to to provide her real name – apparently for national security reasons. Non-Confrontational Blacklisting programs, like Cointelpro, is a form of torture far worse than water boarding and one thing the U.S. Department of Justice chooses not to enforce. There are several criminal statutes that govern Cointelpro style blacklisting tactics: Title 18 US Code 241, 18 USC 242, 18 USC 245, 42 USC 14141, 42 USC 1983 and others. The Roberts’ Court could issue a Writ of Mandamus to appoint a Special Prosecutor to investigate or they could choose a Leahy style “Truth Commission” (conditional immunity from criminal prosecution for truth-telling). The latter option minimizes prison time for torturers, interrogators, torture doctors, torture nurses, prison guards and torture attorneys.

    Until the U.S. Department of Justice resolves this unfinished business, many Americans view our justice system as show-trials and Kangaroo Courts. They could learn something from Robert Jackson,

  7. Lawyer to client, I know the case wasn’t successful, but here’s the bill.

  8. “If Corsi is indicted as he has predicted, his counsel could be hit with a gag order on public statements. This filing could be intended to get the full record out to the public before any charge.” Looks like bully Muler picked fight with insane inmate in prison yard who has guts to fight back – and fight to the death at his age. This just shows how out of control this creepy crawling special counsel investigation is – secret police show up at your door and give you the option to lie or go to jail. All the while you face gag order unless you are crazy like fox Corsi and get the truth out before getting ball-gagged. Makes you wonder if this is how they went after Flynn and Popodopulus. Silver lining is that this casts a dark shadow on use of unfettered special counsel powers and hopefully somebody will hear Corsi’s pleas for help and tap the breaks on out-of-control Muler posse.

  9. Enigma:
    It’s going to end with a scathing political report by Mueller rebutted with Trump’s equally scathing contrary report and we’ll all get stuck with Mueller’s Bill. Clinton, Comey and Lynch won’t go to jail because they’re swamp things immune from accountability by a corrupt DOJ. Everyone is not lying about Russia (who feebly tried to influence our election as they have for the past 50 years) but those in the deligitimization of office business still want to manipulate that crime to defang Trump. It ain’t working.

      1. Enigma,..
        No one really knows what will be in Mueller’s final report, if he ever gets around to writing one.
        You believe that it will be meticulously documented.
        I think it will conclude that —- ( redacted) did in fact say ——(redacted) to Persons #1 and 2 on these dates——–( redacted) that Person#3 did in in fact participate in these ——-(redacted) activities.
        Trump’s rebuttal is unlikely to be merely a compilation of his tweets.
        The criticisms in his tweets may seem mild compared to what his rebuttal will look like.

        1. Tom Nash – Each of Mueller’s indictments has been highly documented, those indicting the Russian hackers were specific as to who was sitting at which computer when they were doing their thing. If you’ve read any of the Mueller generated documents to date, the thought they won’t be specific won’t be a fear.
          The reason recent filings have contained redactions were related to their impact on ongoing investigations. Mueller’s final report will not be hindered in that way because the investigations will be complete. Mueller’s team recently told Congress to subpoena or interview anyone they like related to obstruction as nothing they do now will disrupt the Mueller investigation. Keep in mind, the judges involved aren’t getting redacted reports. Neither will Congress be unable to see a full report.
          Maybe Trump’s response will be a bit better than his greatest tweets. What has he done thus far except scream, “fake news” and call the investigation “a witchhunt.” Mueller’s documentation won’t be taken apart because Trump calls something a lie.

          1. Enigma,…
            After over two years of investigations, Mueller has failed to produce evidence of the involvement of Trump himself in the area of “collusion”.
            And most of the Special Counsel indictments have been for alleged crimes other than collusion/ conspiracy with the Russians.
            Investigation of alleged collusion was supposedly the primary reason for establishing the Special Counsel.
            Mueller not only has failed to do that, but he’s given no indication of where he’s going with these investigations or when he might wrap things up.
            I think his extreme penchant for secrecy goes beyond concern about complicating ongoing investigations.
            His final report may state his conclusion(s) that x or y conspired with the Russians, but he that doesn’t want to tell anybody anything more.
            Given the way various aspects of this have been mishandled, the bar has been set much higher for the strength of the evidence Mueller will need to produce, and the kinds of offenses that he alleges.
            E.G., if he nails Trump for a process crime, but fails to produce evidence of conspiracy with the Russians, there won’t be enough overall public support to pursue it via impeachment or (delayed) prosecution.
            I think Mueller himself has become a polarizing figure; not as much of a lightning rod as Trump, but sufficient to cause a high degree of suspicion and skepticism about Rosenstein’s choice of Mueller, and how Mueller has proceeded.

            1. Tom Nash – You now being aware of something doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. I’d be willing to bet any amount of money that there is plenty of evidence to charge members of his campaign with conspiracy with Russia. (Possibly not enough to charge Trump himself, but certainly Donald Jr) Future indictments will likely include Corsi, Stone, Donald Jr and very likely Jared Kushner as well. The good news is, we won’t have to wait forever to find out if I’m right. Some of these dominoes are likely to fall within the next few weeks.

  10. It looks as though Corsi got lost going down one of his own rabbit holes. Corsi claims that by early August of 2016 he had deduced that the John Podesta emails were missing from the DNC emails that Wikileaks released on July 22nd, 2016, and that, therefore, Corsi could predict, by means of deductive reasoning alone, that Wikileaks would eventually release the John Podesta emails.

    Here’s what Corsi seems to have forgotten: At the time that Roger Stone predicted that it would soon be the Podestas time in the barrel, Roger Stone supposedly did not yet know that Guccifer 2.0 was an online persona created by 6 out of the 12 GRU officers in charge of disseminating all of the hacked emails. (Or did he already know that?)

    Since Stone claims that at that time he only had knowledge of what Guccifer 2.0 was offering without any knowledge of what Wikileaks might have to offer, therefore Corsi could not logically have precluded the possibility that Guccifer 2.0 would not release the John Podesta emails instead of Wikileaks releasing the John Podesta emails. Unless, of course, both Corsi and Stone already knew that Guccifer 2.0 was the online persona that the GRU used to communicate with Stone while disseminating the hacked emails through Wikileaks.

    Mr. Corsi has some ‘splainin’ to do.

    1. Correction: “therefore Corsi could not logically have precluded the possibility that Guccifer 2.0 would release the John Podesta emails instead of Wikileaks releasing the John Podesta emails.”

        1. Corsi’s logical deduction claim was given in his recent grand jury testimony well after the putative fact that he is claiming. Had Corsi actually deduced Wikileaks’ possession of the Podesta emails by August 2nd, 2016, Corsi could have easily spared both himself and Stone from a great deal of Mueller’s scrutiny–not to mention the entire effort to fabricate a retroactive cover story for Stone’s August 21st, 2016, Tweet as excerpted from the timeline article linked below:

          August 21, 2016: Stone tweets: “Trust me, it will soon the Podesta’s time in the barrel. #CrookedHillary”

          [Note: In an interview on October 19, Stone would later claim he had meant only that his tweet was not about Podesta’s emails but about business dealings, which he did not learn about from Wikileaks. Think Progress has a helpful analysis of why “Stone’s alibi falls apart.” See also the entry for Aug. 30, 2016 involving the Corsi “cover story.”]

          August 30, 2016: Stone calls Corsi, nine days after the tweet referring to Podesta—and asks Corsi for help in creating an “alternative explanation” for the tweet after the fact, according to an interview Corsi gave to the Wall Street Journal in Nov. 2018). Corsi also told the Journal, “What I construct, and what I testified to the grand jury, was I believed I was creating a cover story for Roger, because Roger wanted to explain this tweet … the special counsel knew this. They can virtually tell my keystrokes on that computer.”

          [end excerpt]

          Corsi’s claim to have logically deduced Wikileaks’ possession of the Podesta emails makes no sense as an instance of hindsight, but makes perfect sense if Stone and Corsi already knew by no later than August 2nd, 2016, that Guccifer 2.0 was the GRU hack-and-leak team. They could have easily acquired that information from Assange by way of Ted Malloch. Or, since they’re such clever fellows, they could have logically deduced that Guccifer 2.0 was the GRU from the information that Papadopoulos had been given about Russia’s ability and willingness to disseminate the thousands of emails damaging to Hillary Clinton that the Russian’s had.

    2. Timeline reminder:

      On August 12, Stone said on a podcast that he believed Assange had emails deleted from Hillary Clinton’s personal server; that same day, Guccifer 2.0, the online persona who claimed credit for the hacks, sent a thank-you note to Stone shortly after releasing a set of documents with personal information about Democratic candidates. According to Stone, he began messaging with Guccifer 2.0 on Twitter on August 14.

      1. June 14, 2016: Washington Post reports that the Russia government hacked DNC computers

        June 15, 2016: Guccifer 2.0 claims responsibility for the hack as “a lone hacker”

        July 22, 2016: Shortly before the Democratic National Convention, WikiLeaks releases nearly 20,000 internal DNC emails

        July 25, 2016: Stone emails Jerome Corsi: “Get to (Assange) [a]t Ecuadorian Embassy in London and get the pending (WikiLeaks) emails.” Corsi passes the request to Ted Malloch.

        July 31, 2016: Stone emails Corsi with the subject line, “Call me MON.” The body of the email says that Malloch “should see [Assange].”

        August 2, 2016: Corsi emails Stone informing him of the contents and timing of future Wikileaks document releases, including ones involving Podesta and information related to Clinton’s health:

        “Word is friend in embassy plans 2 more dumps. One shortly after I’m back. 2nd in Oct. Impact planned to be very damaging.… Time to let more than [the Clinton Campaign Chairman] to be exposed as in bed w enemy if they are not ready to drop HRC. That appears to be the game hackers are now about. Would not hurt to start suggesting HRC old, memory bad, has stroke — neither he nor she well. I expect that much of next dump focus, setting stage for Foundation debacle.”

        [Note: NBC News reported in late Oct. 2018 that “Mueller’s investigators have reviewed messages to members of the Trump team in which Stone and Corsi seem to take credit for the release of Democratic emails, said a person with direct knowledge of the emails.”]

        August 3, 2016: Stone said that he spoke with Trump on August 3.

        1. Remember the case of the dog that didn’t bark because the dog was friendly with the horse thief?

          Why didn’t Roger Stone ask Guccifer 2.0 for the damned emails?

          Because Stone already knew that Guccifer 2.0 was the GRU.

    3. guess how much I and 90% of america cares if they got an inside scoop from Wikileaks: not at all

      guess how illegal it was to get a scoop: not at all

      Pentagon Papers case: only good law if it helps Democrats?

      1. Getting a “scoop” from The GRU hacking and leaking operation is not the same “legal thing” as getting a scoop from “Wikileaks”–assuming that those are two different actual operations in the first place. Moreover, one of Stone’s many functions as a Trump associate was to build the anticipatory excitement known as buzz building nee hype for the pending Wikileaks’ publication of the Podesta emails. The man [Stone] literally communicated with Guccifer 2.0. And Guccifer 2.0 was literally the GRU. And the GRU literally disseminated hacked emails to and through Wikileaks.

        Did the Viet Cong and the North Vietnamese Army literally disseminate The Pentagon Papers to and through Daniel Ellsberg? Or would you prefer to put that transaction the other way around?

          1. Excerpted from the article linked above:

            The message from WikiLeaks in July 2016 to a group of Russian intelligence officers who prosecutors say were posing as a Romanian hacker named Guccifer 2.0 urged swift action before the opening of the Democratic National Convention that month.

            “If you have anything hillary related we want it in the next tweo days prefable because the DNC is approaching,” the error-ridden message read. “and she will solidify bernie supporters behind her after.”

            WikiLeaks had begun seeking stolen files from Guccifer 2.0 weeks earlier, after revelations that the Democratic National Committee’s server had been hacked, according to private messages cited in an indictment filed Friday by the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III. The organization had told Guccifer that publishing the stolen material on the WikiLeaks site will “have a much higher impact than what you are doing.”

  11. Corsi is a lying cowardly scumbag who didn’t even have the guts to show up at Texas Tech University Triennial Vietnam Symposium to debate VVAW and other Veterans and supporters and get his ass handed to him like the lying swift boat liars did. He only called in and still got his lying ass handed to him. I found out before hand about the swift boat liar campaign against John Kerry and who was financing it. Forwarded the info. through channels to John Kerry or his handlers. Even his sister tried to get the info through to him. It was ignored until too late. Dems just can’t seem to get it through their heads that repugthuglicans will do anything to win and at all cost. Corsi is going down, I hope there is a room reserved for him in GitMo along with the rest of the fascist Trump’s crime family and associates.


    1. sgt,

      I still hate the Nazi Bush Family, Obama, Hillary, Bill are still pieces of Crap just like I feel about John Kerry.

      I know I am & I believe most Americans are done with that ole trash & well see what the new boss can do.

      So Help, Stand Back, or Move to another Country!

    2. what does the fact that he didn’t show up ______wherever, have to do with anything? It sounds like you’re angry at that. If that is the source of your anger, then say it and make your case there. Not in a discussion of the reason Mr Corsi ought to be indicted here. He should be indicted here, because he didn’t show up ‘there?’ Your anger shows through clear as a bell

        1. Written by mespo 727272 who knows first hand how hard it is to write with his mouth or toes.

        2. LOL! Yeah, Sarge does sound a little high-strung whenever he posts. Maybe he is just over-caffeinated??? For all such people, such as him, Isaac, fishpoop, and Natacha, I offer this prophetic Irish Poem! I even made it to where you can fill in the blank with the name of your favorite high-strung commenter!

          Crispé Critters???
          An Irish Poem by Squeeky Fromm

          Poor (blank*), he was constantly mad!
          His anger was all that he had!
          One day, in a snit,
          He had him a fit,
          And his damn head EXPLODED! Sooo sad.

          Squeeky Fromm
          Girl Reporter

          Notes: Crispé is a French word for edgy, tense, high-strung, etc. It is pronounced “crispy”.

          * Different names can work here, with a little change or two for the number of syllables in the name, such as:

          Poor Sarge, he was constantly mad
          Natacha was constantly mad (and change the second line to: Her anger was all that she had. And the fourth line to: She had her a fit. And fifth line to: and her damn head. . .)
          Old Isaac was constantly mad.

            1. Oh, I left you out of the poetry! Wait! I can fix that!

              The Shilly Season???
              An Irish Poem by Squeeky Fromm

              Late4Dinner was constantly dumb!
              From banging her partisan drum!
              The mean DNC
              Made her go OCD!
              Ohhh, what a pathetic outcome!

              Squeeky Fromm
              Girl Reporter

                  1. Squeeky – she does have that evangelist, Billy Sunday spirit about her. I wonder if she was a cheerleader in high school?

                    1. L4Yoga/Annie/Inga enables David Benson, and the NPCs R. Lien and Marky Mark Mark – you don’t write like you are tall enough to play volleyball. Small team? 😉

                1. PC Schulte,…
                  Maybe so, but Squeeky may have opened up a real can of worms here.
                  At this very moment, L4D is working on a rebuttal poem that will equal or exceed Benet’s “John Brown’s Body” in length.😄

                  1. Tom Nash – as long as it isn’t an epic. We do not need a new Iliad or Odyssey or El Cid.

          1. Squeek – you poem reminded me of Day of the Living Dead and the exploding head. Great shot and effect!!!!!

          2. Please save your time. No one reads the crap you write. Someone misinformed you when they told you that you are clever and capable of writing anything worth reading.

              1. Who fantasizes out loud in public about being the subject of other people’s jealousy?

                A) Tronald Dump.

                B) Freeky Squomm.

                C) Date4Linner

                D) Bill in the frank _________________

              2. Flom Pikiwedia:

                Japanese has one liquid phoneme /r/, realized usually as an apico-alveolar tap [ɾ] and sometimes as an alveolar lateral approximant [l]. English has two: rhotic /r/ and lateral /l/, with varying phonetic realizations centered on the postalveolar approximant [ɹ] and on the alveolar lateral approximant [l], respectively. Japanese speakers who learn English as a second language later than childhood often have difficulty in hearing and producing /r/ and /l/ of English accurately.

            1. It took Willie Nelson something like 30 years to hit it big, but he stayed after it until he did.

    3. The Swift Boat Veterans told the truth. This upsets partisan Democrats, who lie, all the time and about everything.

    4. i thought Corsi’s book on Kerry was not worth reading or bothering with.

      I also don’t hold it against John Kerry that he executed prisoners under exigent circumstances in Vietnam, but some people do. Reasonable minds can differ.

      I thought Kerry was a better Secretary of State than Hillary, too

      1. You’ve confused complaints about John Kerry with complaints about Bob Kerrey.

        Corsi was the co-author. The primary author was a lawyer in Texas who had served in the Mekong Delta. He organized the Swift Boat Veterans. He’s also been a public critic of Kerry since about 1971.

        The complaint about Kerry was a peer complaint, driven in part by his conduct after the war. In regard to his conduct in the Mekong Delta, most of the the other Swift Boat captains didn’t like working with him (it was a 4 to 1 split against him). They also made the case that an unwary observer would be mislead by his medal count. By way of example, he won 3 purple hearts, but the worst injury he received put him in the infirmary for less than two days. The number was crucial, because it was policy at the time to ship someone home if they received three such decorations. He’d been due to stay in the Mekong for a year and stayed four months.

        The complaint against Kerry would have been a wretched bit of business bar two factors: (1) the complaint was made by peers, not some sh!t-ass journalist-shill and (2) Kerry’s entire public career had been built on a foundation of trading on his VietNam service and his references to his service record may have exceeded that of any candidate for the presidency in the last 60 years, including having his boatmates from the Mekong appear at the Democratic convention in 2004. (You could argue that Dole and McCain were in his league. Dole has injuries you don’t notice on film but which reporters notice in person; Hendrick Hertzberg interviewed him in 1988 and said the first thing that hits you seeing him is how unbalanced his body is. McCain’s injuries are subtler, but reporters can readily observe them. Also, the Navy was McCain’s life from 1936 to 1980. You cannot profile the man without discussing his service record).

  12. So I take it that evidence of a smoking gun, such as a NSA secret recording between a Trump associate and a known Russian agent and/or Assange, will not persuade you of a criminal conspiracy. Nothing will convince you otherwise that the perpetrators were framed by the Deep State. You simply refuse to believe what you do not want to know like, say, man-made global warning. Tell us now that there is absolutely no evidence you are willing to accept as proof that someone on the Trump team was complicit.

    1. As of right now they wheeled GHWB out of the walk in cooler just in time to have all the mafia type bosses get together & I guess we’ll all see the new plan sometime after Wednesday?

      So we’ll see. Trump, Release the FISA Warranty & it’s 3 renewals & the NSA’s copies of Hillary’s 35000 Emails we here you have, & the numbers? 302s, 1001s?

      Hell should baught the Hillary/Obama/Muler Russian BS story or write my own. LOL:)

      1. OKY1, you just asked Trump to “disclose” Hillary’s emails. What’s the difference between “disclosing” versus “leaking” classified information? Well, it might not be classified information. Or it might be improperly classified information. And Trump does have at least some authority to declassify information, provided that Trump is willing to weather the political storm that might follow from declassifying and disclosing Hillary’s emails.

        But would Trump still be able to “Lock her up” after Trump disclosed Hillary’s emails?

        1. I seem to recall Trump telling the DOJ to be ready to release everything to the public they can.

          I would assume his out of control DOJ would be smart enough at this point not to give Trump a reason to fire all of DOJ’s leadership & lock them up, Nat’l Security etc…, for screw up this up coming release.

          You can always play back months worth of analysts opinions?

  13. Welcome to GITMO Muler & Crew?

    What, there’s like 7 people there now?

    305th Military Police Company Deploys to Guantanamo Bay
    December 2, 2018

    WHEELING — More than 100 members of the 305th Military Police Company of Wheeling were deployed to Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, Saturday, following an official ceremony at Triadelphia Middle School’s gymnasium.

    The 400-day deployment is in support of Operation Enduring Freedom, according to Sgt. First Class Reginald Pickett, with the 305th. He said the troops will be performing various military police duties during this period. Several speakers, including Lt. Col. Jonathan Bennett, commander of the 400th Military Police Battalion, spoke to the troops and their families about the hardships involved with a long deployment.

    “Thank you to every one of you guys and gals who are standing here today who answered the call — because that’s what you’ve done and you have distinguished yourselves in doing so in taking that responsibility,” Bennett said, before going on to thank the families for their sacrifice as well.

    “You are the ones that are doing double duty. You are the ones that are left behind and are keeping things going for us while we’re gone doing our mission. So I really want to say ‘thank you’ to both the soldiers and the families for all that they do in making this possible,” he added.

  14. Mueller’s nonsense against Corsi exemplifies how Mueller is simply a bagman for Democrats, delivering payback for Corsi’s association with Alex Jones and Corsi’s book trashing Obama. If the acting AG doesn’t let the air out of Mueller, public opinion will.

    This month’s Imprimis details the motivation behind the Left’s identity politics, racism, violence, war on whites, etc.

    1. Unfortunately for you, your ilk, and the other gullible rubes, dupes, klan wannabees, pocket-traitors and grifters on the make, federal grand juries don’t take the breathless screeds of hannity or other loony-tune buffoons into account when making decisions on indictments. However, the fact that you apparently do has served to distract you from the most important question regarding your hero, the day glo bozo, which is” “What is that ticking sound?”

      this is to “I have a ‘hannity was here tattoo across my lower back'” vinegar

      1. Mark M:
        “What is that ticking sound?
        That ticking sound in your head Is the same sound the crazy narrator describes in the Tell-Tale heart:

        “My head ached, and I fancied a ringing in my ears: but still they sat and still chatted. The ringing became more distinct: –It continued and became more distinct: I talked more freely to get rid of the feeling: but it continued and gained definiteness –until, at length, I found that the noise was not within my ears. No doubt I now grew very pale; –but I talked more fluently, and with a heightened voice. Yet the sound increased –and what could I do? It was a low, dull, quick sound –much such a sound as a watch makes when enveloped in cotton. I gasped for breath –and yet the officers heard it not. I talked more quickly –more vehemently; but the noise steadily increased. I arose and argued about trifles, in a high key and with violent gesticulations; but the noise steadily increased. Why would they not be gone? I paced the floor to and fro with heavy strides, as if excited to fury by the observations of the men –but the noise steadily increased. Oh God! what could I do? I foamed –I raved –I swore! I swung the chair upon which I had been sitting, and grated it upon the boards, but the noise arose over all and continually increased. It grew louder –louder –louder! And still the men chatted pleasantly, and smiled. Was it possible they heard not? Almighty God! –no, no! They heard! –they suspected! –they knew! –they were making a mockery of my horror!-this I thought, and this I think. But anything was better than this agony! Anything was more tolerable than this derision! I could bear those hypocritical smiles no longer! I felt that I must scream or die! and now –again! –hark! louder! louder! louder! louder!”

        1. + 1 on the genius Poe reference. I will endeavor to work in a reference to “A Cask of Amontillado” here in the near future.

      2. Dear Mark M., Your lefty loon default setting is to always go to “hannity”. Do you have a man crush on him or something? Or are you trying to insinuate that I watch and take cue from Hannity cause that aint the case. Rarely watch that show as better use of 9:00 PM ET time-slot is entertainment or sports. And you always seem to default to a cheap klan reference. You clearly have no game and demonstrate no ability or effort to use rational thought and instead just flail from your hate-Trump default settings.

        1. Awesome. Another direct hit amidship. Thanks for playing.

          this is to “methinks the lady doth protest too much” billie

          1. Mark M. Nice try – I used that Shakespere quote on this board long before you just did. And methinks the lady is you in your dreams and the man is Hannity. “its a fine line between love and hate” – right Marky?

    1. Issac:
      Another top ten stupid post. All his life? I think your TDS Is rotting your brain. Btw, Trump is still richer and smarter than you.

  15. The 1st time the US govt attacked the world trade centers who were those FBI clowns that tried to set up those guys but the FBI got caught in open court when the would be Patsy had recorded the FBI setting him up.

    Do I think all FBI is bad, Hell No, but like in any trade there’s phk’in Retards, Muler anyone! LOL:)

    Now, about those good guys currently in the FBI, CIA, LEO, I hear they’d love to hear more about Muler’s film making career.

    1. Please! Keep doin’ you.

      this is to “so what if’ens I likes to drink some shine in the late night” okie

  16. Having listened to some of Corsi’s interviews. I rate his chances of defeating Mueller in courts as less than zero. We will find out this week about what Flynn has had to offer, about Manafort’s crimes and lies, and in what ways Cohen has been cooperating. For any diehard Trump believers out there, serious question, “How do you think this is going to end.” If you think in ends with Clinton, Comey and Lynch in prison, please explain your theory? If you think Mueller has come up with nothing in his witchhunt, why has everyone been lying about Russia? Bonus question: What is the value of a $50 million condo?

    1. I’m guessing that the value of at least one $50 million condo might be equal to, or greater than, the value of The Office of the President of the United States. (Dollar amounts are not yet available on that latter equivalent.)

      P. S. I can’t figure out which one bribed the other one. If they both bribed one another, then . . . do the bribes cancel out? More covfefe, please!

    2. last question first

      the value of any real estate is what a willing seller and willing buyer agree and do pay for it
      …in other words, appraisals are all BULLSHIRT

      this ends how? like mespo said. the mueller report is bad for trump, trump releases counter report, it all withers on the vine, he is not impeached, and neither is comey nor hillary.

      in short, a dead end even if it was a lively reparatee for a spell

      1. Mr Kurtz – So you would accept a Trump counter-report as equal in value to the Mueller findings? Has Mueller been incorrect about any of his findings thus far? Or will people just not care if the President is a crook and traitor as long as he gives them what they want on abortion/immigration/tax relief (for the rich only)?

      2. Nonsense. The field of real estate appraisal is no different from any other business in which value is measured utilizing generally accepted methodologies. There are good appraisers and bad appraisers, but their work is essential for resolving a broad variety of disagreements, from eminent domain to partition to boundary disputes. I have no doubt that I could find an appraiser to offer a competent and admissible opinion on the fair market value of a real estate bribe.

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