A trophy hunter in Montana killed the most famous and beloved wolf in Yellowstone National Park after “Spitfire” wandered slightly outside of the park. This hunter will now be able to enjoy the thought of killing this beautiful animal that has inspired thousands of visitors. Spitfire was a seven-year-old wolf from the Lamar Canyon Wolf Pack and dubbed the Queen of the Lamar Valley. It is a tragedy that is all too familiar, including our prior discussion of the shooting of one of the last wolves from the most famous pack in Denali National Park in Alaska under similar circumstances.
As in Alaska, legislators in Montana have refused continued pleas for a buffer zone to spot trophy hunters for setting up just outside these parks in the hopes of bagging such animals.
Both her mother and her famed uncle were also killed by hunters. Spitfire was less than five miles from Yellowstone’s northeast entrance.
We have previously followed the controversy over the shooting of “Cecil the Lion” by an American dentist Walter Palmer from Minnesota as well as subsequent controversies of a Idaho hunter taunting animal advocates and killing giant elephants or giraffes for trophies. As many of you know, I am no fan of such trophy hunts. I often hike in remote spots to see bears and other animals in their natural habitat. I cannot understand the joy of killing one of these animals or the challenge of shooting them with a high-powered rifle. I seek out these animals and take pictures with the same ease it would be to kill them. Yet, many feel a tremendous release in killing these animals and posing with their dead bodies.
I cannot understand the resistance to the concept of a simple buffer zone around national parks for such animals, particularly for people who simply want the thrill of such a kill.
Thisbosbsickening and disgusting. Mount the hunters hands!
One asteroid killed 30 trillion dinosaurs.
McDonald’s has sold 450+ billion hamburgers.
Shhhhh!
It happens!
Poor Spitfire. She was so beautiful. Her loss is so sad.
A TA told me how residents of a town used to leave hay out for the deer during winter. They felt bad that some deer would starve during the winter. That drew the wolves’ food source out of their protected area. They followed the deer out of safety, and were shot by hunters every year until the packs were wiped out. Then, the deer numbers grew too great for their food source. The deer population exploded, between the extra help during winter and the lack of predation. The deer became such a nuisance that they had to have hunters cull their numbers.
It was a disaster all around.
What the hunters are doing is legal. You can’t really blame anyone for following the law, nor can you expect a wolf hunter to have the same affinity for a live wolf that we may have. If you want this to change, then voters can try for a buffer zone. It sounds like a buffer zone is a non hunting area within a certain distance of a state park. You will still have the same problem when wolves leave the buffer zone, though. I’m not sure what else to try. If they collared “mascots” of the state parks, then the brightly colored colors might impact their survival in the wild. Deer can only see some colors, but a color blocked collar would still stand out due to contrast. I’m not sure what the answer is.
Wild animals don’t typically live as long as indoor pets. Humans are one of the predators that they may encounter out there.
Yellow stone is in Wyoming on the Idaho Border then comes Grand Tetons then a a park which straddles the border with Canada Montana puts the incident two states away.
Michael Aarethun – Yellowstone (one word) is in both Montana and Wyoming (mostly Wyoming). West Yellowstone (a tourist town) an entrance to the Park is in Montana.
Glacier Park is only in Montana, it is called something else when you cross into Canada. 😉
I hate damn trophy hunters! It’s one thing if you are going to eat the critter, but Jesus H. Christ, how small must your dick be to take pride in killing something like a wolf that isn’t threatening you???
However, I would be in favor of us bringing back the old “Wanted Dead or Alive” posters, and permit trophy hunters to bag Crips, Bloods, MS13ers, Italian Mobsters, and the like. That would both benefit society, and actually require some balls!
Squeeky Fromm
Girl Reporter
Squeeky – ranchers pay shooters to hunt gophers on their property as well as coyotes. Wolves are bigger, meaner predators. They are not your friend. They are the rancher’s enemy.
On our golf course, the groundskeeper uses traps and keeps a gopher body count. I guess gophers aren’t as majestic and popular as wolves. People smile on one species and let the others go by.
I will always and forever associate golf course gophers with Caddyshack.
Karen S – Caddyshack and the guys at RedLetterMedia watched a video on exploding gophers. It was glorious. 😉
George – do you have a pool going on the yearly body count?
No. I’m actually working diligently on my putting. It’s the short game that counts, right?
George – I don’t play the torture. I have tried and found it distasteful and painful and a good walk wasted. I do enjoy watching Tiger play, however that is it. 😉 I have been to what used to be the Phoenix Open and is now the Waste Management Open and that was an experience. I was 15 feet from Phil Mickelson but he didn’t even look at me or offer me an autographed ball. 😉
Those guys are good!
Good comment here by Squeeky. I was thinking of saying some of the same things only she said it better. I do think that trophy hunters need to be shot and the image of their dead bodies shown round the world on the internet. Yes. Humans kill animals and fix them up and eat them. We have all sorts of poultry farms, pig farms, cattle ranches. I admit to eating meat. It is a whole different matter to shoot an animal and make the dead creature your prize and hang its dead head on your wall or simply take your selfie photo with you, your rifle and dead guy. A human who shoots a trophy hunter should not be held in any criminal offense. I would like to defend a trophy hunter shooter in a criminal case. Wolves need love too!
“Animals all over the planet are gathering for meetings about the Earth, how to wake up and
activate humans, the third item on the agenda.” @AKU_MATU. Now it’s minus another one.
A few years back me and my wife were visiting Yellowstone National Park. We were driving through the park when we rounded a bend and found several cars parked along the side of the road. People were entering a wooded area, most holding cameras. I ask one of them, what’s the big attraction? He replied, there’s a grizzly bear in there. They never stopped to realize that they could end up on the menus.
Oh for God’s sake. Why do people do this? They walk right up to the Bison, too, when they are lifting their tails, giving all the warning in the world that they are going to run them down.
People don’t have any connection or knowledge about wildlife or the outdoors anymore.
Karen S – people in Yellowstone Park are insane going up to Bison to take their pictures. They are not to be trusted. The wolf is better company. The Park Rangers are always trying to keep people from being killed by the bison or bears or whatever in Yellowstone.
The Park Rangers have a thankless job. They must be so harried, constantly trying to stop tourists from committing suicide by wildlife. I wouldn’t casually stroll up to a herd of bulls on foot, either, let alone bison.
I’ve had people drive up to various barns that I’ve been at, trespass, and do really stupid things with horses, too. Such as leave a gate wide open to allow my friend’s gelding to get into the feed bins, founder, and die. All the safety ordinances, regulations, and hovering have created a generation of people insulated from the divers that hone common sense. If there’s no sign that there could be a hole in the sidewalk, they confidently will step right into the hole they no longer look for themselves.
I seek out these animals and take pictures with the same ease it would be to kill them.
More virtue signaling. Same ease huh. Maybe they should use helicopters to transport these animals that wandered outside of their protected habitat back to their safe space. Oh wait, what? You say the helicopters are busy hauling wayward photo-tourists that wandered outside of their protected habitat, got dehydrated and fell down a ravine? Ah, belay my last.
Ouch, Olly.
I wonder if ol’ Spitfire would have cared about me if she was hungry enough. I lump the term “animal rights” with other false things like, “the more you buy, the more you save”, “Inclusive liberal” or “social media”.
Also, I might have to add “buffer zone” to this. Isn’t a buffer zone just a new line in the sand? I wonder if the buffer zone has a buffer zone of its own.
The “magical” wolves roaming out of the park and killing cattle and other livestock is a real problem for ranchers in the area. It is the reason the wolves were eradicated to begin with. If you could train the wolves where the park boundaries were and not to cross them, we would not have these problems.
For the record I do not see any use of the adjective “magical” to describe the wolves. I did however use the word “majestic” in case you are referring to my earlier reply. Perhaps I am missing something but I did not see any mention of this wolf having been shot because it was a nuisance to any ranchers. No matter, my choice is to reach for a camera instead of a gun.
Bill Martin – I am originally from Montana and the wolves in the Park have always been a problem. As you might have noticed from the article, they want a “buffer zone” or “safe space” for the wolves just outside the Park. The ranchers do not. They have to hassle with the Feds to get paid for the cattle that the wolves take down outside the Park.
I used the word “magical” ironically because there is nothing special about the wolves except they have be re-introduced into the Park. It has been a help in controlling the herds of elk and bison. However, in the winter they like to prey on the cattle outside the park. It is easy hunting.
A lot of ranchers run donkeys with their herds. Donkeys, down to the littlest mini burros, have an instinctive hatred for wolves, coyotes, and dogs, if they aren’t socialized with them. They will run them down. I don’t know how effective they would be against a pack of wolves, but they do pretty good against coyotes.
Coyotes maim calves because they chew off their tails or hind ends after they are wobbly, new from birth. I love coyotes, but they aren’t going to be polite and stay away from free food unless you make them. Same with wolves only they eat the whole calf. You’ve got to keep them away from livestock or the ranchers will go to war to protect their herds.
Thanks for posting this Karen.
A lot of other people & I want to take it for granted that people like Prof Turley & those from big city areas would have informed themselves that those outside the cities, trying to carve out a living feeding the fools in the cities with their grains & livestock & have to manage their farms & ranches.
Turns out most don’t have a damn clue & they help cause us out here to be over run by city type bureaucrats, some corrupt/some not, running BLM, EPA, Corp of Engineers, Park Service, etc.
When in fact they can’t even run grade schools & colleges now the US.
My thought was before Trump came in 1st he finds his people managers, then he fires/layoff 1/3rd of the non- military govt.
Rinse/repeat: Find out which ones where really needed, bring them back & then fire/layoff the next 1/3rd…
Anyway, that was then….
People who do this are disgusting. End of story.
Do what? Hunt? Shoot your idealized version of a predator? Fail to restrict hunting? If you’re going to be insulting, you can at least be clear about it.
Hunt for food, understandable, cull, necessary, trophy hunt=mental imbalance.
issac – I am having a little trouble with this story, myself. This time of year you would be trophy hunting for elk. The wolf would be a premium.
issac – the attitude towards wolves and coyotes depends on where you live, and how you interact. I live next to a coyote denning area. My coop is velociraptor proof. So far, we coexist fine. I love the coyotes and feel a thrill when I see one. A friend lives miles from me, and some idiot feeds coyotes in their neighborhood. One cornered her by her back porch and snarled at her. Feeding coyotes makes them aggressive towards people. My theory is that they view people who feed them like a submissive who drops its food and runs off. If you don’t drop food, they just think they have to be more aggressive until you do. At least, that’s how predators treat each other in the wild. A human fed coyote is a dead coyote.
Wolves, also, have a wide range of interactions with humans. Tourists who don’t live in the area, or who don’t have small kids, pets, or livestock, get a thrill when they see a wolf. Those who run livestock know that a wolf pack can wipe out calving season. Unchecked, they can kill a lot of calves that drop. It creates an adversarial relationship with ranchers, which causes hunting wolves to be very popular in those regions. Wolves can cause a lot of damage to livestock. There is not that much prime grazing land left for agriculture and livestock, as we inhabit most of the good places in large numbers. You can’t really run good cattle on desert. Prime cattle grazing land is also great habitat for deer and elk that wolves prey upon, which brings everyone into contact. Personally, I think the next great wildlife crisis will be deer because of Chronic Wasting Disease. They may very well have to wipe out most deer herds to try to eradicate this dread disease.
There are steps to take. Guarding the range. Donkeys have questionable value against wolves but work great against coyotes. Anatolian Shepherd dogs are ferocious livestock guardian dogs. It depends on the size of the herd and what realistic steps can be taken.
I favor anything that keeps wolves away from the herds, and trouble. It’s hard, because the wolves and deer don’t read boundary lines. They have no idea that they are not allowed out of a park. They just go where they go. Lately, there has been an uptick in wolf aggression, which has historically been quite rare since the invention of the reloading rifle. They are usually so good at being shy that they can den near human habitation with the people none the wiser.
In order for conservation efforts to be successful, rather than useless virtue signally, is to be understanding and sympathetic to all involved parties. When people who don’t suffer any losses to wolves lecture those who do, the latter dismisses the former as knowing nothing about it, and they carry on as per usual. There is usually a reason why wolf hunting has local support. If there are ways to reduce losses and risk, then groups can coexist. Typically, coyotes are much more adaptive to thrive in close human contact than wolves.
In addition, since the safe areas are indeed limited to protected land, the wolves cannot populate normally. In the wild, they have as many pups as can survive, and those pups disperse. Most don’t make it. The average lifespan is about 7 years, and that can vary with food abundance or scarcity. Now that humans are so populous, wolves cannot simply disperse their bachelors to strike out on their own. If they leave the park, they are dead. If they stay in the park, their numbers depend on the available food. Nature is not a kind mistress, and human beings are just one of the intense pressures that any wild animal faces.
As someone who loves wolves and coyotes, I hope this gets worked out. I believe they are no longer considered an Endangered Species, which would be the only protection against hunting all wolves.
Karen, I wish Turley would read your comment. But I guess he’s too busy trying to make excuses for CPL Avenatti.
Practice. Keep your chops up.
Ever notice that God put living creatures on this planet to kill and eat each other?
It’s kinda natural…more natural that not doing so.
Ask the shark biting your leg off if he has any moral compunction.
“End of Story” means you cannot tolerate viewpoints other than your own. It’s not the end of the story. Those who enjoy killing seem to carry genetic material that most of us don’t carry. Fortunately those who enjoy killing throughout history have tended to be killed themselves at an early age, thereby reducing the proliferation of that genetic material. That’s also what wars are for.
Sam:
They also died covering your arse and others like you in every war we fought. The cowards stayed home and reaped the benefits smug in their righteousness. That gene you speak of is the courage gene.
So, shooting an animal from the safety of a few hundred yards, with a high powered rifle, for bragging rights is courage; telling.
So, shooting an animal from the safety of a few hundred yards, with a high powered rifle, for bragging rights is courage; telling.
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Spoken like a guy who never made it out his mother’s backyard. You try stalking and felling a mountain goat from one ridge to the next with a .338 and tell me no courage or skill is involved. Or maybe bow hunting when a black bear strolls under your stand and you’ve got about three arrows left. Or hitting a 4 inch kill spot on a wild turkey at 20 paces with a 12 gauge. Like most urbanites, you’re so far removed from the land, you can’t begin to comprehend the sensibilities of those who aren’t.
mespo – they do understand their are mountains, right? 😉
I suppose mountains are a foot tall in their lollipop – unicorn world.
You sound like a Hunter that respects his prey….Issac is not wrong…it is a coward that fixes the odds in their own favour for a bragging right or bloody wall display. I have hunted in Montana…it is a necessity…it is NOT NECESSARY to kill endangered or distressed species just to feel your lifeless bags and proclaim yourself a big thang.
Sam, let’s discuss the “enjoy killing” concept. I love to garden. I live in a desert where the slightest hint of green attracts ravening hordes of rabbits, rats, mice, gophers, birds and any other herbivore, diurnal, nocturnal, or crepuscular, for miles around. I went from, “Oh, look! A bunny!” to wanting a sniper tower, land mines, and a steam roller. I hate killing anything. The next time I catch a ground squirrel gnawing on my Western Redbud or a rabbit eating my tender young lavender to the ground, I am going to kill it with my bare hands and nail its hide to the fence as a warning to others. I got rodent proof feeders for my beloved chickens, and their entire pen is mesh. I went out at night to discover that rats and mice can apparently squeeze through the mesh, and they were inside my chicken run pooping and rooting around for dropped seeds, excavating entire tunnel systems like an ancient underground civilization. Those rats and mice are going to die. I don’t know how I’m going to do it, because I won’t use poison, but they are going down. Hell no are my fluffy birds going to scratch around in mouse poop.
My particular battle is waged against rodents. Although I love wolves and coyotes, I am not in a position to judge anyone waging their own battle to protect their animals. I just hope it gets worked out so that the wolves can thrive in their own safe territory, but not harm livestock outside that area.
Karen,
Fill a 5 gallon bucket 3/4 full of water. Install some sort of dowel across the top, inserted through a soda can, but so that the can will stay in the middle, above the water. Lean a 2 foot board up against the bucket. Put a few dabs of peanut butter on the board, and on the can. The rats will climb the board, try to get to the can (which will spin), fall into the water, and drown. If you want to be merciful, put a little bit of dish-washing liquid in the water and they will drown faster.
A farmer that I know sends his wife out shopping (yes he does) 3x a year and while she is gone he and his son get out the rifles and do some serious rodent control. Farm rats get big and fat and his poor chickens had to fite through a line of rodent to belly up to the feed trough….they did it a few times a year..as often as necessary. Guns beat poison anyday Without it those rats would destroy everything not to mention become diseased and spread the nasty. My first shoot in Montana was against those adorable prariedogs…talk about a colony of tunnels….but those tunnels break horses legs. Still, my first day out I got a.) a black eye from the kickback , b) never taken shooting the mud dogs again because after grazing one on the wee nose the boys spent the rest of the day trying to find the poor wounded critter at my behest …;P don’t ask about the Turkey shoot….(but Montana is really great for Turkey hunting!).
“People who do this are disgusting. End of story.”
People who think they can win a debate by saying “end of story” are disgusting.
Women who don’t bear and nurture babies, sufficient to grow and defend the nation, precluding the requirement to import the nation’s population, are traitors and enemies of that nation.
End of country.
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Fun fact: Women are psychically capable of bearing up to 26 children.
Spitfire was armed with his natural instincts. Spitfire and his friends could kill a 900 pound elk. They would start to consume the elk while it was still alive.
“Spitfire was armed with his natural instincts. Spitfire and his friends could kill a 900 pound elk. They would start to consume the elk while it was still alive.”
Yeah . . .. Not really much help against a rifle.
Why not invest in nice camera and take pictures of that majestic animal instead of spending money on a gun to kill her. You can get a nice adrenaline rush from taking nice photos of animals in the wild. By the way, in response to another poster I have not heard of hunters killing wolves to eat them so let’s not fool ourselves – it was all about the thrill of the kill and audacious trophy.
I love wolves so I don’t like to see them killed. I say the same as another person, if you kill it eat it. I have no trouble with hunting for food. But I’m not a fan of trophy hunting. The rural area in which I live, people hunt for food all the time. I’ve got no beef with that however.
My great-grandfather hunted to feed his family, and lived in improvised conditions that today’s fat-ass hunters, with their expensive rifles and gear couldn’t begin to imagine. These people kill because they enjoy killing. There is no need beyond satisfying a lust for blood. I don’t know how they stay married. Personally, I wouldn’t close my eyes under the same roof as some sick freak who enjoys killing.
Who are “these people”? And that doesn’t describe anyone I known (in the last 50 years). They “enjoy” the entire thing.’ Because of your grandfather, you are thus qualified to make judgements on hunters today? Okay. Stereotype much?
TIN:
You don’t have a clue about wildlife management or modern hunting.
Wait a minute, didn’t god or the founding fathers say it was alright to shoot the beegezus out of whatever, whenever, for what ever reason?
“As in Alaska, legislators in Montana have refused continued pleas for a buffer zone to spot trophy hunters for setting up just outside these parks in the hopes of bagging such animals.”
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It’s not a “tragedy” to lawfully kill a wolf no matter how much anthropomorphism you want to engage in. A wolf is a predator (not a queen) and fair game away from its preserve which of course is the “buffer zone.” The hunter did nothing wrong and likely saved a lot of domesticate animal prey when Spitfire went rogue. Lawful hunting is wildlife management reducing overpopulation and disease. That’s why it’s legal. Casting aspersions against people you know nothing about or implying motives with which you are unfamiliar or just plain wrong about does you no credit. Buffer zones are thinly veiled attempts to diminish hunting and that’s why they’re routinely legislatively ignored.
Though I do not do so often, I must take exception with our host’s position on this particular matter.
I haven’t read where the hunter broke gaming laws where he bagged the wolf. Just because others have assigned an identity to this particular animal does not negate any hunting rights to this animal–the animal was five miles in bounds–Nor should we suddenly anthropomorphize all wild animals for the purpose of eliminating hunting because it “feels bad” when one named animal is taken.
We can personify game animals and that makes for good story. But just because one person finds hunting objectionable it does not grant them the right to demand that others who value hunting should be prevented from doing so, especially when arbitrary feelings are assigned to one particular species of game animal over the other.
Human beings have hunted animals since time immortal. We are biologically adapted to consume animal meat. The evidence for this is irrefutable. Why should one species or worse one individual animal hold a greater value than another? Do we castigate the hunters for bagging game then go to our favorite steak house and revel in the feast of how delicious a particular cut of meat tastes? Why is the cow’s life expendable but the whitetail irreplaceable? At what stage do people simply be permitted to enjoy the lifestyle for which they choose without being publically shamed or punished.
The fact is that a game animal was shot in a green zone. Somewhere else a chicken was slaughtered in a factory farm. What difference is there? Well in the wild, for the hunt the game does enjoy a life in its natural environment and the factory chicken lives only for a few weeks in a cloistered nightmare and then gets dragged through a conveyor until its neck is sliced open. What is really fair or dignified?
How much respect and praise does the chicken receive. What is left over after slaughter is cast into disrepute. At least with a pelt, head, or antlers the animal is praised and honored, and treated with far more dignity than by factory farms facing cost pressure to save money at all permitted manners. Day-old male chicks are simply tossed into the trash to die. Does are left alone since generally they are not hunted as often as bucks. Now you have to ask yourself honestly, what is more humane?
Great post Darren.
My G Shepherds, the male 100-110, female 85-90, +or-.
They guard our chickens as we’ve trained them to do against coyotes or other dogs.
Having had Shepherds off & on most of my life a couple things I noticed. Many people are scared sh*tless of shepherds as they look a lot like wolfs. And idiots want them banned & killed.
I’m not sure, I think GS are about 1/8 wolf, but they are Highly Trainable & family/friends/kid Friendly If you train them that way. and keep them inside your fence.
But I’d never leave young kids alone with them.
AKA: the kid steps on the dogs balls & nips the kid, people freak & they go kill the dog. Those Idiots should never own a GS!!!
To me, decades later, playing with the dogs & they accidental break my skin, well I was just vaccinated & it saves me from to poisonous untested vaxxes the govt pushes.
Anyway,
Prof Turley, Dr Michael Savage, people like you me, others, Donald Trump Jr hopefully come to terms on where real usefully hunting starts & stops & special snowflake crybabies should just go get lost.
I agree with you Oky. I have had GSD’s too and it’s so sad how many people are scared out of their minds over them. They are good, loyal, loving dogs. And protective. My latest dog, Merlin, is 117lbs and people think I have a wolf in my house and run when they see him. He’s not a trained attack dog, but he is protective. However he loves people once he knows they are not going to hurt me.
If people know how to treat a GSD and know not to fear the dog, they become very friendly with them. I’ve got friends who are not afraid of him and Merlin loves them. Same with my family. They are used to dogs and they have no problem with Merlin and he behaves very well with them. He loves them. Especially my brother.
Pepperment,
We had our male’s weight almost as much as your’s but the wife/boy decide to drop his weight.
Right now I’ve been telling them I think he’s to skinny.
Among the many helpful things I could say about GSD is 1st, raise them around the people/pets/livestock as pups if one can.
Like ours were around chickens, the top cat & the neighbors. So far so good.
And I love what we call chicken bowling. One of them will sometimes run right though the middle of this small flock as if to show them what it would look like if a coyote was after them.
2nd we went to one general command, Leave It, so what ever they are doing just demand the walk away from it & leave it.
3rd, When we had the other place the dogs could see for a mile or so because no trees. So if they seen something outside the fenced yard they’d start acting up. I wasn’t that good of a dog owner then either.
This place is fenced & in the middle of trees with walking paths everywhere, so they can’t see that far & when the dogs are moving around they seem more content & calm waiting to see what’s around the next corner.
My wife follows this site sometimes:
https://www.germanshepherds.com/
I’ve only owned GSD’s. They are the best. I love looking straight at them, you feel like you are looking back in time of a relationship of man and dog thousands of years old.
Jim22,
I like when I talk them saying I can’t play now & the both tilt their heads, like what the hell are you talking about, there’s always time to play. LOL
Oky – I love GSDs. They are one of my favorite breeds, and I hope to one day have one. However, I don’t care for the severe rake that American dog shows have created in the line. It makes them look like Hyenas to me, and I have to wonder if it exacerbates the hip problems. That strange angle just doesn’t look athletic to me. I like a classic GSD with a nice, natural, straight back. You see them in Europe.
Karen,
LOL, you seen it long ago also how AKC type dog shows are screwing up GSD’s backs/ hips. Horrible.
Ours seem to have straight backs.
My wife & I wouldn’t have gotten these dogs if my son wasn’t around to take care of them.
They are very energetic & love being busy, between naps./eating. LOL
There is a distinction between “hunting” for food and trophy shooting. I’d sooner see this “trophy shooter’s head on my den wall that the head of some animal that got in “this beast’s sight”
Darren, your screed is disingenuous sophistry!
This is nothing more than Bovine Excreta!…”…At least with a pelt, head, or antlers the animal is praised and honored,…”
This isn’t about hunting for sustenance – this is shooting some for the sake of killing something. There’s nothing herotic or
glorious about it
New Rules For Trophy Shooter
You shoot it -You Eat it!
Edit: shooting something
“I’d sooner see this “trophy shooter’s head on my den wall that the head of some animal that got in “this beast’s sight”
Darren, your screed is disingenuous sophistry!”
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In other words you would rather see yourself killing another human for doing something you object to. Do you normally advocate killing people with whom you disagree?
Then you make an attempt to hide your malformed position by spouting off with a proffered mastery of vocabulary with phrases such as “disingenuous sophistry” and “Bovine Excreta!….”…”
Offer whatever attempt at wit you wish in retort if you want the last word. Stupidity engendered by you isn’t worth anyone’s time.
Darren,
I’ve tried to reach out to you to see if you can assist me with the email notifications.
I receive emails of new posts by JT, but I’m not receiving notifications of responses. I’m completing the Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in. fields, checking the Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. box and checking the Notify me of new comments via email. box.
Please let me know if you know what I need to do differently, OR that know of no solution. I would appreciate it. Thank you in advance.
Olly,
I replied back to your original comment on the email notification issue you are having. Unfortunately, I don’t have a good answer for you on this as it is a WordPress platform matter and not one specific to the changes I can make here. What you write sounds correct. The only suggestion I could have made, and the one that I did last time, was to unselect any notifications setting, save it, then recheck it and see if it wakes up the system to act.
Is anyone else having problems with this?
“This is nothing more than Bovine Excreta!”
Gawd, what a pretentious poseur.
Well said, Darren. Also, day old roos are sometimes tossed into a shredder at sorting. Alive.
Okay, reading the comments there was enough for me. There are those who see no value in hunting in general. This could be, though, what anyone could call a cheap shot. It may not have been right.
But unfortunately the victims of illegal immigrants who die do not get near the sympathy or attention that a wandering wolf gets at Yellowstone. Shame or sign of the times.
The fact that some other situation is bad or worse doesn’t excuse what happened here. That some demented loser kills a beautiful animal so he can brag to his lowlife friends is not acceptable just because some illegal killed someone, and an illegal killing someone is not okay because in Liberia they literally cut the hearts and other organs out of their enemies and eat them. You can always find a worse situation, but it’s simply not relevant to the subject of this post. Unless you want to discuss how we can arrange for these “hunters” to be air-dropped into Liberia, where they will be hunted by the natives for food.
We have quite enough wrong in this country, you don’t have to bring Liberia into it.
>”so he can brag to his lowlife friends is not acceptable.” < I read the whole piece, did you? I didn't see that. I think you are projecting a bit. Now I said it was not right and a "cheap shot." I didn't like it.; But you attributing more on it than is there. You may be ready to gut him but. I guess what he did makes anything you might say right tho. I do have a beef with the selective publicity thing. Justifiably.
Spitfire was unarmed?