China Revises Figures On Coronavirus Cases and Deaths

1193px-SARS-CoV-2_without_backgroundFor weeks, experts around the world have expressed open skepticism, if not mockery, over the claims of the death count in China.  While not as absurd as North Korea claiming no cases, China has been reporting a ridiculously low number.  News stories of crematoriums working around the clock and thousands of urns delivered just to Wuhan have added to the criticism.  Now China has increased its count by roughly fifty percent in Wuhan but it is still far below what experts believe is the true story.  China is widely believed to be covering up information on the origins and early outbreak of the virus.

The Wuhan government said total confirmed infections in the city have been revised to 50,333, an increase of 325 cases, while the death count is now 3,869 — and increase of 1,290. This follows embarrassing stories out of Wuhan of long lines of families waiting for urns. A simple counting of families exceeded the official toll.

The death toll for the whole country was moved from  3,342 to 4,632 with total cases  revised from 82,367 to 82,692.

The modest adjustment (blamed on poor accounting on the local level) is unlikely to quell the rising questions over China’s virus lab as a possible source of the outbreak and China’s cover-up, including arresting doctors and withdrawing expert reports during the crisis.

Mao always had a rather direct view of what constitutes truth.   He declared “Every Communist must grasp the truth, ‘Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun.’; Our principle is that the Party commands the gun, and the gun must never be allowed to command the Party.”


192 thoughts on “China Revises Figures On Coronavirus Cases and Deaths”

  1. Without Reliable Tests, ‘Back To Work’ Is Russian Roulette

    What Trump was saying with those ‘Liberate’ tweets was: Everybody just go back to work. From now on, each of us individually, and our society collectively, is going to play Russian roulette. We’re going to bet that we can spin through our daily lives — work, shopping, school, travel — without the coronavirus landing on us. And if it does, we’ll also bet that it won’t kill us.

    More specifically: As a society, we will be betting that as large numbers of people stop sheltering in place, the number of people who will still get infected with Covid-19 and require hospitalization will be less than the number of hospital beds, intensive care units, respirators, doctors, nurses and protective gear needed to take care of them.

    Because it is clear that millions of Americans are going to stop sheltering in place — their own President is now urging them to liberate themselves — before we have a proper testing, tracking and tracing system set up. Until we have a vaccine, that kind of system is the only path to dramatically lowering the risk of infection while partially opening society — while also protecting the elderly and infirm — as Germany has demonstrated.

    And as individuals, every person will be playing Russian roulette every minute of every day: Do I get on this crowded bus to go to work or not? What if I get on the subway and the person next to me is not wearing gloves and a mask? What if they sneeze? Do I get in the elevator at the office if there is another person on it? Do I go into the office lunchroom or not? Do I stop for a drink at this bar, where the stools are six feet apart, or that crowded one my friends chose? Do I use this toilet or that drinking fountain? Do I send my kid back to school or not? Do I stay in a hotel? Ride an airplane? Let the plumber in? Do I go to the doctor to check that strange lump or not?

    What will be so cruel about this American version of Russian roulette is how unfair it will be. Some people will have no choice but to take the subway or the bus to work. Some people will have to send their kids back to school because they can’t afford to stay home from work. Some bosses will demand that their employees show up to reopen their workplace, but some of those employees may be afraid to come back. Do you fire them? Do they bring a lawsuit against you if you do, or do they go on Twitter and post a picture of how closely together you forced them to work — six inches apart, not six feet?

    Edited From: “Trump Is Asking Us To Play Russian Roulette” by Thomas Friedman

    The New York Times, 4/18/20

    1. Seth, listening to CBS News interviewing Dr Birx just now while biking. The host/reporter (DK who) asked her about Harvard’s most recent analysis which found we would need 1 million tests available a day to be ready to safely open up on May15. Birx said that since that was a “national” number, she and her people are focusing on “granular” studies of smaller units – towns, counties, etc. – and she wouldn’t comment. As if that answered the obvious questions – which went unasked. “Are you saying you don’t think Harvard’s national number is correct?” If “no” or “I DK”. Ask, “OK, what is” or “Why not.”. This is clear obfuscation of the most important fact critical to the feds – how many f…..g tests does the country need? The 2nd fact, is where are they needed? You are the government of the Nation! Hellooo!!!

      Birx is in the tank. I don’t know about Fauci, but she’s dodging for the administration’s responsibility containment plan, not to solve the problem.

  2. One criticism for calling the Wuhan virus or the China virus by the long-standing convention of naming a virus for its suspected origin is the idea that it is leading to racist attacks against Asians.

    Always omitted is what appears to be the case that a large majority of those attacks are perpetrated by blacks.

    This could simply be another manifestation of a long-simmering issue in the black community. How often have we heard that Asian shop owners are stealing black opportunities? Do we remember the attacks on Korean businesses during the Rodney King riots? The problem is so long standing thst journalist, Keith Richburg, discussed it in his book, Out Of America, in 1997.

    Some of the fretting about this problem is clearly coming from China whose government is desperate to deflect blame for failing to warn the world in time to control this vicious disease.

    Meanwhile, I don’t think we should take lectures on racism from China where anti-black racism has reached shocking and overt levels of late and where a Muslim ethnic minority has been moved into concentration camps and compelled to work as slaves.


    “Germany’s coronavirus response: Separating fact from fiction”

    Germany’s low COVID-19 mortality rate has been marveled at by the foreign press. As with any news story constantly in flux, many things get lost in translation.

    Claim: Germany is testing at one of the highest per capita rates in the world, and is also testing individuals with light or no symptoms

    Reality: The German Health Ministry has said that it is testing 300,000 people per week in a country of 82 million people; it has already carried out far more tests than Italy, the European epicenter of the pandemic. While that is a massive effort, assuming that each German resident would be tested once, it would take 3 years to test the entire population.

    Comparing test rates per capita around the world is extremely difficult, as some countries, like the US, do not have a central registrar recording all the tests across the nation. Further complicating the matter are the conflicting numbers even within each country; the usage of different time measurements; and delays in reporting. These factors make it even harder to keep track and say with certainty which nation has the highest number of tests per capita.

    Moreover, Germany’s center for disease control, the Robert Koch Institute, has criticized Germany’s methods of testing, complaining for example that too many asymptomatic individuals were being tested. The RKI called for an end to this practice on the grounds that Germany could risk running out of tests. Therefore, asymptomatic people are currently not being recommended for testing.


      “….Comparing test rates per capita around the world is extremely difficult, as some countries, like the US, do not have a central registrar recording all the tests across the nation….”

      uHHHHH, WHY? Arithmetic and division too difficult?

  4. Mike Pence On “Meet The Press”

    An Empty Sock Puppet

    On this morning’s “Meet The Press” Vice President Pence dodged almost every question put to him. Instead Pence kept going into cheerleader mode, praising Trump’s performance like a Russian bot.

    Pence kept making the ridiculous claim that this country has made huge progress with regards to virus testing. But only 5 million Americans have been tested so far. At this rate it could take months before any meaningful number of people have been tested. Nevertheless, Pence hailed this glacial progress as a major achievement. Which made him appear utterly clueless in every respect.

    1. Not surprising. A lot of actions like this are clearly arbitrary and capricious and go beyond the reasonable police powers that governments have. That is another way of saying they are illegal

      I remarked on this in an earlier thread.

      1. Another way of looking at it is if a government restriction is plainly stupid and ineffective it could be illegal and likely to be struck down by a judge judge though bets are off if you get in front of an activist judge.

        1. Young, it sounds like you’re plainly stupid.

          The governors were following the guidelines issued by the president’s health officials. But oddly Trump has undermined his own guidelines by sending those “Liberate” tweets. Trump is clearly more comfortable playing renegade outsider than providing presidential leadership. Which confirms that Trump ‘is’ the crisis.

          1. The governors were following the guidelines issued by the president’s health officials.

            Let’s see the black letters, Peter.

            1. Absurd– Clearly Seth missed the part where a federal judge [not the first] found illegal overreaching in some of the local government restrictions. The DOJ and the president take the same view that some of the restrictions are unwise and sometimes illegal.

              Unfortunately, our political class seems poorly informed on the state and federal constitutions and the actual legal limits on the powers they exercise.

              I haven’t been here long enough to know, but perhaps you can say why Seth is often unable to frame a position or argument without an insult.

              1. Young, you’ve been here as long as Estovir, so drop your stupid charade.

                Trump is clearly undermining the orders put out by his own team. Though Trump is only undermining Democratic governors.

                1. “Seth Warner says:April 19, 2020 at 1:17 PM
                  Young, you’ve been here as long as Estovir, so drop your stupid charade.

                  Trump is clearly undermining the orders put out by his own team. Though Trump is only undermining Democratic governors.”

                  Young and Estovir are not the same people, Seth. Young might be FFS — some who used to post brief messages from time to time. Respond to the content and let it go. Just my two cents.

                  1. Anonymous, your post here is ridiculous since we have no idea who you are.

              2. “I haven’t been here long enough to know, but perhaps you can say why Seth is often unable to frame a position or argument without an insult.”

                I am also new here but I have observed some of the regulars here indicating that “Seth” has utilized many sockpuppets. So I had to look up “sockpuppet” not knowing what that meant:

                “sockpuppet is an online identity used for purposes of deception” (Wikipedia)

                Regulars have stated “Seth” uses sockpuppet names that include Peter Hill, John Burgoyne, Enoch Poor, Seth Warner, Paintchips, Power Bottom, Sybil, Anonymous of varying colors and one presumes more to come

                It is a heck of a way to spend one’s life but he does provide entertainment

                  1. Young / Estovir, that Anonymous is yet another of your many sock puppets.

                    1. Peter – I really don’t think Anonymous can be a sock puppet. However, if you can make a case for it, go for it.

                  2. Young and Anonymous – there was a point when WordPress was not recognizing us. Peter seemed to be plagued more than most. It happened to me once and was very frustrating. DSS has changed his name as many times as well. Inga was the real piece of work. She came on as 20 some sock puppets on the same day. That was the beginning of the end for Inga.

                1. Anon, Your note also helps understand why he is always accusing others of posting under different names. He is overly familiar with the practice.

                2. Peter Hill has changed his handle a number of times, as have I. He’s done this presumably for the same reason, which would be technical difficulties with the site which will at unpredictable intervals leave you unable to comment. The cure is to modify your handle. I’ve had so many I’ve forgotten them all, and finally discovered that you could alter one or two characters and continue to comment. For 15 years, I’ve used the same handle everywhere else, but I’ve not been able to use that handle here.

                  There used to be a larger body of commenters. Unfortunately, it’s withered to a few who recognize each other quite well. It doesn’t matter what Peter uses as his handle, you can spot him immediately. For some reason, he fancies Young is Estovir, even though they do not resemble each other.

                  There are two commenters who have been banned in the past, one of whom uses no handle and offers drive-by insults (she used to have stupefyingly long posts full of speculation). The other has used a number of handles to evade the ban, as well as two different backstories. He’s also readily recognizable.

                    1. Young

                      You and I exchanged a few words a while back on the topic of philosophy / St Tomas Aquinas / Summa. Peter (Seth) monitors these comments more closely than the blog moderator, Darren Smith. For a while I thought Peter was David Brock and at times still think as such. His accusing you of being me confirms that Peter is not interested in discussions or else he would know you and I had an exchange a while back. He is interested in drive-by shootings, Saul Alinsky “rules for radicals” and scorched earth tactics, i.e. David Brock

                      A friend told me about this blog early in 2019 when I was doing research at the medical school. We spend a significant amount of time in research waiting. I used my down time at the lab playing on this blog. I finished my work at the lab before Christmas, transitioned back to my other roles at the university, and post here less & less. I only recently have posted more because of COVID-19

                      I believe you are an attorney. Turley I suspect will keep you busy with the legal discussions. As to Peter and the other drive-by shooters, I think they are harmless though do remind us of the slouching towards Gomorrah slippery slope.

                      – Estovir

                    2. Estovir– Thanks for the additional input. We did indeed take opposite sides on an issue somewhile back, but for the most part I like your posts. Part of the pleasure of these exchanges is hearing different points of view. Sometimes I change my mind. Karen’s posts also seem well informed and I enjoy those as well as yours. Both you and she have considerable experience in these fields that I lack. How long, I wonder, before Seth also claims I am Karen.

                      You are correct, of course, in thinking I came here because of Prof. Turley’s legal posts. I don’t share his political persuasion but that is unimportant. I have watched his testimony and read his articles and developed enormous respect for his intellectual honesty and his legal acumen, which are not the same thing, by the way.


                    3. So Estovir, you’re supposed to be a young M.D.?? Shouldnt you be an intern now?? How do you have time for this blog?? It makes no sense.

                  1. Absurd, while were on the subject, your most appropriate handle was: “Insufferable”. You should bring that back . ‘Insufferable’ is so often linked with ‘Bore’ that we saw the two words paired even though they weren’t.

            2. Absurd, you’re saying Dr Fauci and the White House team never advised against large gatherings??? Did we all imagine that??

              Personally I dont care if a congregation of moronic evangelicals all succumbs to the virus. The danger is they could spread it around before dying themselves. And that’s just what the Kansas governor doesn’t want.

              1. Seth, again with the insults. But never mind, how dangerous is it for ‘moronic evangelicals’ to listen to a sermon over speakers while sitting in the family car with the windows up?

                1. Young/Estovir:

                  The Kansas ruling has nothing to do with drive-in services. Nothing whatsoever!

      2. Indeed, if a problem, the President has emergency powers that would be helpful in an international crisis and this could be one of them. Unfortunately our “War President” is AWOL though taking part in demonstrations with other anti-American protesters.

    2. Estovir – thanks for linking the TRO. It refers many times to one of my favorite cases, Free the Nipple, 916 F.3d at 807.

    1. David Benson is the God Emperor of Making Stuff Up and owes me forty-four citations (one from the OED, one from the town ordinances and two from the Old Testament), an equation and the source of a quotation, after seventy-two weeks, and needs to cite all his work from now on. – nice call to authority. I have an undergrad minor in psychology and I can spot b.s. a mile away.

        1. Anonymous – you have to grow older, however you do not have to grow up. Peter Pan is my idol. 😉

    1. “David B. Benson says:April 19, 2020 at 5:05 AM

      Paul C Schulte is Not All There.”

      A given.

      1. Anonymous – I will need proof from you that I am not all there.

  5. That is a stupidest yet from Paul C Schulte, blaming Obamacare for the novel coronavirus pandemic.

    Who would’ve ever have thought that Obamacare spread to China, Japan, Italy, …?

    1. David Benson is the God Emperor of Making Stuff Up and owes me forty-four citations (one from the OED, one from the town ordinances and two from the Old Testament), an equation and the source of a quotation, after seventy-two weeks, and needs to cite all his work from now on. – it surprised the hell out of me, too, David.

  6. Seth Warner, a trenchant observation. So how are hospitals to continue to function?

  7. Trump’s War On Obamacare Badly Timed

    Millions Losing Healthcare

    No one has a count of exactly how many people have lost their health plans, but there are clues. About 22 million workers have filed unemployment claims since mid-March, according to the most recent federal figures, and that includes only the people who have gotten through to clogged state workforce offices. The latest census data show that job-based coverage accounted for 55 percent of Americans’ health insurance, though the kinds of work disappearing the most — restaurant jobs and others in the service industry — have always been less likely to offer health benefits.

    The Economic Policy Institute, a nonpartisan think tank, estimates that 9.2 million U.S. residents were at high risk of having lost coverage during the past four weeks. The consulting firm Health Management Associates forecasts that perhaps 12 million to 35 million people will lose job-based insurance because of the pandemic, on top of the 27.5 million who were uninsured before the virus arrived.

    Edited From: “First The Coronavirus Pandemic Took Their Jobs. Then It Wiped Out Their Health Insurance”

    The Washington Post, 4/ 18/20


      This becomes another part of the historical record: ‘Trump enters offices intent on destroying Obamacare’. Then a pandemic hits!

      1. Peter – if it hadn’t been for Obamacare there would be no pandemic.

          1. Peter – I am just taking things to the beginning. If it had not been for Obamacare and Obama getting Trump mad at him, Trump would not have run for President. We all know, at least according to MSM, that Trump caused the pandemic. Therefore no Obamacare, no Trump, no pandemic. The logic is impeccable.

  8. Now watch to observe Paul C Schulte attempt to make a comeback that he thinks is clever.

    1. David Benson is the God Emperor of Making Stuff Up and owes me forty-four citations (one from the OED, one from the town ordinances and two from the Old Testament), an equation and the source of a quotation, after seventy-two weeks, and needs to cite all his work from now on. – did I succeed?

  9. The purpose of this site is of course so that Jonathan Turley may display his legal acumen.

    So Paul C Schulte is demonstrated to be stupid as well ill-manered.

    1. David Benson is the God Emperor of Making Stuff Up and owes me forty-four citations (one from the OED, one from the town ordinances and two from the Old Testament), an equation and the source of a quotation, after seventy-two weeks, and needs to cite all his work from now on. – I am only ill-mannered to those that deserve it.

  10. Paul C Schulte also intrudes in conversations between others.

    Instead go learn something, Paul C Schulte. For example, manners.

    1. David Benson is the God Emperor of Making Stuff Up and owes me forty-four citations (one from the OED, one from the town ordinances and two from the Old Testament), an equation and the source of a quotation, after seventy-two weeks, and needs to cite all his work from now on. – intruding is the purpose of this site. And I have impeccable manners, I just don’t always use them. 😉

  11. Seth Warner, the mind of Paul C Schulte is made up and refuses to the confused by the facts.

    1. David Benson is the God Emperor of Making Stuff Up and owes me forty-four citations (one from the OED, one from the town ordinances and two from the Old Testament), an equation and the source of a quotation, after seventy-two weeks, and needs to cite all his work from now on. my mind is always changeable if you have good facts. The problem is you generally do not have any.

  12. It should be big news that–in an astounding, incredible wild coincidence defying all odds–Dr. Anthony Fauci’s National Institute of Allergies and Infectitious Diseases (NIAID) actually funded studies on the Bat Coronavirus at the Wuhan Institute of Virology years ago, the very same Chinese lab that is likely the source of the Wuhan Virus that was created and spread in 2019. But, of course, the story will not even be covered at all in the mainstream media, let alone be featured as big news. And in yet another amazing, incredible wild coincidence defying all odds, the National Health Institute (NIA), of which Dr. Fauci is also closely affiliated with, will be working to advance the vaccine for the very same Wuhan Virus that was created in the very same Lab.


    1. Michael Knowles interviewed Ted Cruz:

      “Over a month ago, you suggested that there was very likely a link between the Wuhan Institute of Virology and this virus that just so coincidentally happened to occur within a couple of miles of that Institute. During that time, the mainstream media said this was crazy, this was a conspiracy theory, there was no evidence of it. Now, we are getting multiple reports all saying that the virus came from the lab…

      My question is, did the U.S. government know that the Wuhan Institute of Virology was conducting this sort of dangerous research? And if we did know, why didn’t we stop it?

      Cruz replied:

      Absolutely, yes. The U.S. government knew, and in fact, when you and I brought this up on March 10th, over a month ago, you’re right, it was treated as tinfoil hat conspiracy theory nut-jobary. Well, it turns out there was, it wasn’t just one, there were two labs within miles of where this outbreak occurred that were studying coronaviruses from bats, and that there were internal state department wires before this pandemic raising concerns about the security in those labs, and that an accidental virus could escape and cause a global pandemic.
      Then Cruz offered some vital information:

      But I’ll tell you, it’s worse than that. And, let me give you some breaking news right now, which is the U.S. government was funding the Chinese research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology. Your taxpayer dollars and my taxpayer dollars. And let me give you specifics that we just got today.

      Today, in inquiring of the National Institutes of Health, did any of your money go to the Wuhan Institute of Virology? The answer is yes, and here’s what they told us in writing today. They said in fiscal year 2019, the funding for the Wuhan Institute [of] Virology was $76,301. Now, what did it go to? And I’m repeating what NIH has told me in writing … it was part of an overall $3.7 million funding program that went to six years in sites in China, Thailand, Cambodia, Laos, Vietnam, Malaysia, Indonesia, and Myanmar.

      Here’s what they were studying. These are NHS words: “The project included studying viral diversity in animal (bats reservoirs), surveying people that live in high-risk communities for evidence of bat coronavirus infection, and conducting laboratory experiments to analyze and predict which newly-discovered viruses pose the greatest threats to human health.”

      That’s what the NIH funding was going to – and we followed up and said, okay, that’s what you described as the project in all of these countries. How about at the Wuhan Institute of Virology? What specifically did U.S. taxpayer dollars go to at the Wuhan Institute of Virology?

      Here’s what the NIH said in writing: “The project supported the following activities at the Wuhan Institute of Virology: coronavirus screening and serology of non-human samples, viral pathogenesis, serological testing, host receptor binding, spike S protein sequencing, and in vitro and in viva virus characterization.”
      The senator continued, making sure to stress that there is no confirmation that COVID-19 came from the Wuhan lab, but that while tax dollars were reportedly going to China to fund research, “the state department was raising real concerns about the safety and security protocols at the lab.”

      “Given that they were studying these bat coronaviruses, the Chinese government needs to answer the question right now. Were they studying the novel coronavirus … that has killed over 140,000 people worldwide?” Cruz said, adding that “they won’t answer that question.”

      1. There is a school of thought that opposes any cuts or restraint of the CDC or NIH. But is our money used wisely?

        We have long partnered with foreign labs to study endemic viruses and other diseases around the world. This kind of study requires cooperation with foreign governments. But then that funnels money into research that may not be up to standard.

        Heck, lately the CDC hasn’t met the standards of a private lab.

        I think this is going to be like 9/11. When the dust settles, and we are released from captivity, billions of people around the world are going to know what the heck happened, and how to stop it happening again.

        As I’ve mentioned previously, there are some really nasty bugs studied in labs in various countries.

      2. WTF is the National Institutes of Health doing financing Chinese research projects. I can imagine a reciprocal program where we offer fellowships to Chinese scientists. I can imagine in-house research which is applied abroad (especially Tropical Africa). I cannot imagine why we would be financing a subsidiary of a foreign government which has itself immense resources.

        Now is the time to strip the NIH and the NSF and the National Laboratories and NASA and the US Geological Survey, and every component of the Department of Defense of their franchise to make grants and insist that the research they do they do in house or contract out through sealed bids. (As for the NIFA, the NEA, the NEH, and the CPB, SHUT THEM DOWN).

        1. Sure, Absurd, let’s take a wrecking ball to government. That approach is working so well.. not.

  13. The Promise and Peril of Antibody Testing for COVID-19

    The agency (FDA) by early April had also allowed more than 70 companies to sell COVID-19 antibody tests without this authorization, albeit with some stipulations. Among other requirements, manufacturers operating without EUA must state that they’ve clinically validated their tests using specimens from patients with PCR-confirmed infections. The test reports must note that the FDA has not reviewed the assays and that they should not be used as the sole basis to diagnose or exclude SARS-CoV-2 infection or to inform patients of infection status.

    Although commercial manufacturers claim their tests have high sensitivity and specificity, they haven’t published their data yet. This lack of transparency is worrisome, Theel said: “The question is, when following symptom onset were these samples collected to show that sensitivity and specificity?”

    Her laboratory has found that most people with SARS-CoV-2 don’t start producing antibodies—or seroconvert—until at least 11 to 12 days after symptom onset. “So, if we were using these rapid lateral flow assays at the point of care to test recently symptomatic patients,…they are more likely than not going to be negative,” she said

    1. An IgG test would be more useful to test people long after they recovered, who were not tested due to shortages. These antibodies would persist long enough to answer the question whether they had Covid-19 or not.

      But to identify patients in acute stages doesn’t make sense. It takes too long to reach the threshold for analysis.

      I wonder if they bracketed IgM and IgG.

  14. China officially denies that the “Wuhan Flu” emerged from Wuhan.

    Communists (liberals, progressives, socialists, democrats, Chinese) have no credibility?

    “We’ll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false.”

    – William Casey, CIA Director 1981-1987

    China won’t allow international forensic investigation. China won’t release data from authorities in Wuhan. The world needs the services

    not of CSI Las Vegas, CSI Miami or CSI New York but of

    “CSI Wuhan.”

  15. Professor Turley writes that America won’t be able to effectively litigate against China for wrongful death and economic decimation.

    President Trump should freeze debt payments to China and impose commensurate “compensatory” tariffs against China in lieu of

    effective and accelerated litigation.


    America’s global allies must immediately impose ad hoc courts evolving into the establishment of a new international system for swift

    global litigation, commencing the operation of that system agaisnt China and doing it now.

    Saudi Arabia was allowed to conduct attacks on 9/11 with impunity.

    China must not be allowed to wittingly or unwittingly attack America et al. without retaliation and/or adjudication and sever penalization.

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