Bizarre, Media, Politics

Lock’Em Up: MSNBC Host Scarborough Demands The Arrest Of Trump, Giuliani, and Trump Jr. For Insurrection

In a profanity laced diatribe, MSNBC host Joe Scarborough demanded the arrest of President Donald Trump, Rudy Giuliani, and Donald Trump Jr. for insurrection.  Scarborough declared “If Donald Trump Jr., Rudy Giuliani and Donald Trump are not arrested today for insurrection and taken to jail and booked . . . then we are no longer a nation of laws and we only tell people they can do this again.” What he is suggesting would be the very antithesis for the rule of law.

Scarborough also struck out at the police as racist for not shooting the protesters:

“If these insurrectionists were black, they would have been shot in the face. And my god, if these insurrectionists were Muslim they would have been sniped from the top of buildings. So I want to know from the Capitol Hill police — what, is it just white people? Or is it Donald Trump supporters? Why do you scream at people for walking across the street three blocks away from the Capitol? Why are you known as these badasses around the Capitol? But then Trump supporters come in and you open the f—— doors for them. You open the doors for them and let them breach the people’s house. What is wrong with you? Are we a nation of laws? Are we a nation of one man?”

CNN’s Jake Tapper also argued that this was racial double standard and that, if the protesters were black, they would have been crushed by police.

Trying to politicize this tragedy is fundamentally wrong. Scarborough ignores that police in various cities have been criticized in past violent protests by groups like Black Lives Matter for standing back and not intervening.  Prosecutors were criticized for dropping charges against many protesters.   Protesters engaged in days of violence and arson outside of the White House before former Attorney General Bill Barr ordered the Lafayette Park area cleared. He was criticized for both the order to clear the area and (more legitimately) the degree of force used. Scarborough was one of those who denounced the use of force, which was justified after officials feared the breaching of the White House complex security.

I certainly agree that the Capitol appeared utterly unprepared for this protest. That will be the subject of investigation. However, the breach of the Capitol happened quickly after a protest that was peaceful for hours on the mall.

The call for the arrests however are beyond the pale.  Many of us of criticized Trump’s speech as he was giving it.  Many of us opposed the challenge made to the electoral votes.  That however is not the crime of insurrection to call for a protest march on Congress.  We have seen violent protests on the left and the right being led by instigators from groups like Antifa and Proud Boys.

I previously wrote in opposition of declaring Antifa a terrorist organization or labeling left-wing protesters “seditious.” Such efforts would gut protections of free speech under the First Amendment. The same is true with Scarborough’s Siren’s call. If we start charging people for insurrection for reckless political speeches, we will truly “no longer [be] a nation of laws.”

254 thoughts on “Lock’Em Up: MSNBC Host Scarborough Demands The Arrest Of Trump, Giuliani, and Trump Jr. For Insurrection”

  1. So, given an oportunity to back peddle on your Trump apologism, and you’re failing *miserably*, Jon.

    “Trying to racialize or politicize this tragedy is fundamentally wrong.”

    Except the very foundation of this protest was racial and political. There were assclowns waving Confederate flags in the Capitol after forcibly enterring. If it was BLM, at a minimum, there would’ve been rubber bullets and black kidnap vans. Don’t know how that could be more obvious, Turley. I think I give up with you. Take the Fox $ and run while your country implodes.

    Elvis Bug

    1. Your comments on these forums do not conform to the Party Platform. We are calling you back to Beijing along with our demented boy Biden.

      We are calling it Democracy. If Americans expect the world to believe their elections have integrity, we can call our Communist policies Democracy.

      This message will self-destruct in 20 crack pipe hits

      https://www.scmp.com/news/china/politics/article/3116553/chinese-communist-party-introduces-new-rules-what-members-can

      Chinese Communist Party introduces new rules on what members can say as it ‘boosts internal democracy’

      1. In celebration of the renewed lovefest/sellout with China, that is a Biden hallmark, the NYSE defied a Federal mandate to delist companies that are fronts for the Chinese military. Now we know why Jack Dorsey wears Ho Chi Minh costumes.

  2. What happened yesterday was an attempted coup and anyone who makes any effort to defend it or those involved is a traitor to this country.

    2. Why does Joe the Big Guy Biden’s selling out to CHINA, among others, not qualify HIM as a TRAITOR to this country? Take a look at CONGRESS before you start smearing Trump supporters as traitors.

    3. Molly is a traitor to America by calling others traitors

      See how this works?

  3. What was the point of the Trump rally and Trump Jrs and Guliani’s speech to the crowd? It seems they successfully delayed the vote in Congress for several hours. Guliani was on the phone with Senators at 7:00 that evening trying to delay the vote in Congress some more, telling them that if he had one more day then state legislators would act to change the votes.

    I mean, to say this is not part of a Conspiracy orchestrated by Trump, his son and his lawyer, is to simply ignore everything that happened. The fact that it did not succeed to change the election result – only some deaths and injuries and property damage – does not change the conspiracy.

  4. How ironic that he refers to the country as a nation of laws, and then calls for three people to be arrested. And his position on undocumented persons who violated US law by means of non-lawful entry? Or those who threw bombs, etc., at Federal buildings in 2020.

    Hypocrisy and mendacity rule the media. People need to stop acknowledging those platforms

  5. Trump attempted, with his characteristic incompetence, an autogolpe, a self-coup.

    He encouraged rioters to assault the US Capitol during a joint Congressional session in an attempt to illegally subvert the peaceful transition of power.

    He and his supporters are guilty of sedition, and should be prosecuted accordingly.

    Or does “law and order” only apply to left-leaning citizens?

  6. I have watched several videos of the protestors and not all are white. Some seem to be Hispanic and some African American. The media and politicians are exaggerating the alleged violence. The only property destroyed were news media equipment. There was no looting and the only shooting was by a trigger-happy cop who killed a woman who had served her country for fourteen years. As for Scarborough, he’s afraid as he well should be, and so are hordes of politicians and media members who saw something yesterday. Yesterday’s event was by unarmed protestors who, after getting past the guards in the lobby, are seen walking peacefully through the Capitol with their hands in the air. They sent a message – and Pelosi and Schumer got it, as did Schiff.

    1. It seems Chuckie didn’t get it! You wrote your response, like I did, before Schumer started up his stupidity again.

  7. I need to get a copy of the most recent version of whatever dictionary is officially approved by Democrats for legal terms. Here are several that come to mind:
    – Domestic Enemies
    – Insurrection
    – Sedition
    – Peaceful Protests
    – Coup
    – Collusion
    – Conspiracy
    – Propaganda
    – Deep State
    – Quid Pro Quo
    – Compromised
    – Oath (Swear)
    – Constitutional and unconstitutional
    – Rule of Law
    – Rights (Positive and Negative)
    – National Border

    I’m sure there are more.

    1. Olly…….that’s a good start! Another important definition: “illegal” means “legal”

      1. Cindy,
        One of my favorite movie lines was from As Good As It Gets. When asked by the receptionist how he writes women so well, he said: I think of a man. And I take away reason and accountability. Your suggestion is similar: How should we define the new Democratic party? Think of the Republican party and take away reason and accountability.

  8. “Trying to racialize or politicize this tragedy is fundamentally wrong.”

    WTF??

    It IS political.

  9. There is now no difference between this blog and extreme right wing media. Two posts today, but none of them JT can even bring himself to denounce these traitors. Trump told them to come to DC to be wild, he told them that their votes and his election was being stolen today (Jan 6) in the Capital, and then told them to march to the Capital to give the Rs pride. He most defiantly did incite the riot. It was what he wanted.

    1. This type of excessive, overheated and fanatic rhetoric from those with a public platform is destroying any chance for reasonable debate concerning the issues that face this country. Most of it comes from media platforms that only serve to encourage hate and division. It is time to turn it off and reject the extremism of both the left and right which it incites.

      1. Have you ever tried to debate a Trumper? You can’t. They reject the concept of objective facts. And now we know they are just violent thugs.

        1. No, the problem is that people like you have no grasp of objective facts. You’re the looney, though you don’t know it.

    4. MollyG, Turley is more enamored with the growing audience in his blog than about what he talks about. He likes the discourse because it generates traffic.

  11. Former NYC Police Commissioner Bill Bratton red flags DC police in videos

    Videos show DC police taking pictures with protesters & escorting them to the hill, then waved them through.

  12. President of the United States calls armed radical mobs to the White House, instructs them to “walk to the capitol and surround it” and to “do something” and to “fight” and so armed mob goes to the Capitol, surrounds it, and attacks it. Gee, how could anyone construe that as the President inciting sedition? gee…. we must be not be a smart as you Mr Ragano, …er I mean Mr Turley.

  13. The Main Street street media has done a great job of dividing the the country!! I don’t listen to any of it anymore. They have and anti American agenda. They try to influence ppl. Ppl that trust them and don’t think for themselves are nothing but puppets. Their rage knows no bounds. See when Biden gets in he will be they’re Honeypot. Everything he does when be great. Just tired of it all!

    1. Yep. There will be little critcism of Biden. The media punditry will do their best to portray him as some kind of ‘healer of the soul of the nation’ bullsh*t narrative they want us to swallow. The truth is that Biden is old and senile, yet the media will cover for him until it is time to elevate Kamala.

      And media criticism of Kamala? She’s nearly untouchable as a WOC (woman of color.) Truth about her is that she’s a giggling mess who is clearly not a “leader” ….like, not at all….and yet they will prop her up in all the usual sickening ways and then try to shove a Kamala presidency down the country’s throats.

      It’s nice to be a Democrat politician ain’t it?

      Meanwhile, they will continue to portray Republicans as bad people and smear Trump supporters as deplorable domestic terrorists.

      The media IS the Enemy of the People. 100% TRUTH.

  15. Mr Hurley, these people advocating violence are not “people” They are The President of The United States! Wake up and see it for what it is! You are blind, man!

  16. Pingback: Thursday Links and Open Thread – Johnny dollar’s place

    1. Thank you. I was thinking the same thing. They riot, loot, burn, and threaten to jail Trump and other officials after they leave office and then are SHOCKED that the country is getting more violent. The threat is all the more credible because the impeachment was just a vindictive and unnecessary show trial.

      1. As well as denigrating and dehumanizing seventy-five million Trump supporters by calling them deplorables, irredeemables, undesirables, untouchables and Dasein ohne Leben.

        And then they wonder why they’re so pissed off.

  18. ” . .   the rule of law .”  coming from Morning Joe ?? Joe and Mika gave Donald Trump a million dollar’s worth of free air time for months when Donald called in to their show before he announced he was definitely gonna run !!

  19. What would Harry Truman say about Trump and his tribes actions yesterday?
    Give em hell Harry!

Comments are closed.