Over the last four years, there has been a type of race by politicians and pundits who seek to outdo each other in the most sensational claims of how Donald Trump could be prosecuted or impeached on an ever-expanding list of offenses. Each claim is stated with absolute certainty despite long-standing questions or constitutional barriers. Democratic Rep. Maxine Waters of California has been a standout in this crowd — calling for impeachments and prosecutions from the very beginning of Trump’s term in office. She is now insisting that Trump can and should be charged with “premeditated murder” over the deadly riots at the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6th. The statement was made on MSNBC which has trafficked in such ridiculous theories without any pushback from the media or legal experts.
Waters made her statement in an interview with Joy Reid, who has had one of the most controversial records in television for her racially charged language, dubious legal arguments, and unsupported claims. Reid notably does not press Waters on her claim that Trump should be charged with premeditated murder.
Here is the interview:
In the interview, Reid refers to the 1990s and the “insurrections in Los Angeles.” It is not clear from the interview what constitutes an insurrection in the 1990s but the term “riot” seems effectively barred today in favor of “insurrection.”
When Trump or his allies made outlandish and unsupported claims about the law in the past, the media piled on with coverage stating that such claims were ridiculous or unfounded. I regularly called out Trump for such claims, including his call for changing whole areas of law like defamation. However, equally unsupported claims on the left are met with little or no push back from hosts or the media.
Waters states “He absolutely should be charged with premeditated murder because of the lives that were lost for this invasion with his insurrection,. For the President of the United States to sit and watch the invasion and the insurrection and not say a word because he knew he had absolutely initiated it – and as some of them said, ‘he invited us to come. We’re here at the invitation of the President of the United States.”
In Washington, D.C., a person is guilty of first degree murder when he or she specifically intends to kill another purposely with premeditation and deliberation, or kills while in the process of committing a felony. See Section 22-2104. Most states require that first-degree premeditated murder be proven as a willful, deliberate, premeditated killing. That is treated as a specific intent crime with the showing of a purposive act or an act with express malice. You must generally show a specific intent to kill and premeditation is usually shown by evidence that a defendant reflected on the act or planned for the act of murder.
Waters’ home state courts have dealt with this issue recently:
“Murder, whether in the first or second degree, requires malice aforethought. (§ 187.) Malice can be express or implied. It is express when there is a manifest intent to kill (§ 188, subd. (a)(1)); it is implied if someone kills with “no considerable provocation . . . or when the circumstances attending the killing show an abandoned and malignant heart” (§ 188, subd. (a)(2)). When a person directly perpetrates a killing, it is the perpetrator who must possess such malice. People v. Gentile (Riverside County Court December 2020).”
In this case, there is no evidence that Trump directly murdered anyone or sought the death of anyone. He is being accused of conspiring in the commission of such murders. That sounds more like a claim of being an aider and abetter to murder. However, even in California, the use of a natural and probable consequence has been limited. Courts have balked at such broad interpretations. “Under the natural and probable consequences doctrine, an accomplice is guilty not only of the offense he or she directly aided or abetted (i.e., the target offense), but also of any other offense committed by the direct perpetrator that was the “natural and probable consequence” of the crime the accomplice aided and abetted (i.e., the nontarget offense).” Moreover, as explained on one legal site, the courts have held, in People v. Medrano, 42 Cal. App. 5th 1001 (2019), that a prior law eliminated “the natural and probable consequences doctrine [as] a viable theory of accomplice liability for attempted murder.”
This distinction was again recently discussed by a California court:
“In Chiu, we held that the natural and probable consequences doctrine cannot support a conviction for first degree premeditated murder. (Chiu, supra, 59 Cal.4th at p. 167.) We reasoned that in the context of murder, the natural and probable consequences doctrine serves the purpose of “deterring aiders and abettors from aiding or encouraging the commission of offenses that would naturally, probably, and foreseeably result in an unlawful killing.” (Id. at p. 165.) But this purpose “loses its force” when an accomplice is held culpable for first degree premeditated murder under a natural and probable consequences theory. (Id. at p. 166.) First degree premeditated murder carries significantly higher penalties than second degree murder and requires the additional mental state that the killing be “willful, deliberate, and premeditated.” PEOPLE v. GENTILE Opinion of the Court by Liu, J. 12 (§ 189, subd. (a); Chiu, at p. 166.) Whether or not the direct perpetrator killed with premeditation “has no effect on the resultant harm. The victim has been killed regardless of the perpetrator’s premeditative mental state.” (Chiu, at p. 166.) We further concluded that subjecting an accomplice to enhanced punishment based solely on the “uniquely subjective and personal” mental state of the direct perpetrator was inconsistent with “reasonable concepts of culpability.” (Chiu, supra, 59 Cal.4th at pp. 166, 165.)”
In her interview, Waters was apparently referencing charges that some of the rioters had planned in advance to storm the Capitol. On the day of the riot, many of us noted that some of the rioters clearly brought ropes and other items that indicated preparation to the attack. Those reports however cut both ways. It certainly shows that those individuals had premeditation, but it also shows that the speech itself may not have been the incitement for those individuals. Critics can fairly note that the President had engaged in reckless rhetoric for weeks. However, there is a difference between reckless and criminal speech. More importantly, if such comments are now dispositive evidence of premeditation for murder, it would allow such vicarious charges for homicide in a wide array of cases involving politicians.
While Waters has defended her long list of impeachable offenses as based on the view that “impeachment is whatever Congress says it is,” the same is not true of the criminal code.
In the interview, Reid refers to the 1990s and the “insurrections in Los Angeles.” It is not clear from the interview what constitutes an insurrection in the 1990s but the term “riot” seems effectively barred today in favor of “insurrection.”
I was stationed at the Long Beach Naval Station during those 1990 riots. They were no different than the riots we’ve seen over the last year. CHAZ and the takeover of federal buildings would more accurately describe an insurrection. But Democrats aren’t interested in accuracy. They’re interested in telling tales that their constituents gobble up like baby birds. Insurrectionists, murderers, white nationalists, traitors and other inflammatory language is not to tell it like it is, but to tell it like they want others to believe it is. It’s all about control by fear. We’ve seen it with Covid. Of course we must see the need to restrict certain civil rights to insurrectionists. Not rioters mind you, um, peaceful protestors. Just those dangerous insurrectionists. And if that’s not enough, Biden always has the Insurrection Act in his arsenal.
Why don’t we just cut to the chase and declare Donald Trump and his supporters as “enemies of the people”? I have a suspicion that our leftist friends will abandon their professed and long standing opposition to the death penalty if it were being applied to “fascists”.
Wouldn’t we already have the multicult utopia, if not for the saboteurs and wreckers?
antonio
Ave frater Antonio
Perhaps you saw that Rep Speier of CA 14 (san fran bay area district) said the other day on twitter, “republicans are terrorists”
How’s that for cranking up the hate, huh?
CIA geek on NPR said they need to hunt us down like the Taliban
https://www.npr.org/2021/02/02/963343896/former-cia-officer-treat-domestic-extremism-as-an-insurgency?utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_term=nprnews
None of our “respected partners in dialogue” here denounced Rep Speier or the odious CIA creep for these remarks, I noticed.
Nice to know that they want us locked up for mere ideas. This is the Democrat party leadership at this sad time
Saloth Sar
Under the Biden-Harris “Unity” regime, Trump supporters are now being labeled as ‘domestic terrorists’ and ‘extremists’ and ‘white supremacists’ and ‘racists’ and ‘fascists’ and you name it: all ‘enemies of the state’ to be purged, hunted, prosecuted, censored, silenced, and crushed…..
Who are the fascist dictators, again?
Here’s what Fake Jake Tapper on Commie Newz Network tweeted:
‘That MAGA-allied officials and media are now attempting to pretend the Jan 6 MAGA terrorist attack wasn’t a big deal, that those who were scared aren’t being sincere (or any other whitewashing), was not only predictable it was predicted. Liars lie. It’s what they do.’ @jaketapper
Did you catch that? He’s calling it the “MAGA terrorist attack”…..and defending Democrats on the Hill who are lying and exploiting the “riot” for political gain.
Who are you working for Fake Jake? You in charge of pushing out the propaganda for The Biden regime?
Mad Maxine is “wigging”out!
President Ronald Reagan Deinstitutionalized Mentally Ill patients before leaving office. Representative Maxine Waters was elected to the House of Representatives 1991. Following logic it would seem that President Reagan is the one responsible for this insane individual having a seat at the table.
Summary of expected comments on this and every other post until the Sun burns itself out:
Silberman: Why, oh why, do you criticize MSNBC but not your employer, Fox?
joe friday: Writing this proves you are not a Democrat. You are a Trump shill.
Natacha: Trump is an orange fat slob. So there.
Peter Hill: Cut and paste whatever criticism of Republicans WaPo and the New York Times are pushing on any given day.
Spot on. Hilarious.
Oh and did you see Simon & Schuster is publishing Hunter Biden’s memoir called “Beautful Things” due out later this year. It will be the feel good story of the year. Vomit, gag, puke.
I’ve been absent from the site for a while. Has Seth Warner and Bug changed their names, again, or are there more additions to the Nitwit Brigade?
Seth Peter is still here but you have to recognize the style of his post. He’s reverted to anonymous.
Elvis Bug generally signs.
Joe Friday is Book and whatever he called himself before that.,
We had a visit from enigma yesterday too
These are respected partners in dialogue along with other fine folks. mespo meyer karen cindy diogenes young antonio, oh and liberty. these are “the regulars” and perhaps a few others
My predecessor, Mistah Kurtz, he dead.
Saloth Sar has emerged from hiding in the jungle and has taken his place. His slogan is “Billionaires are the enemy”
Lest i forget to name estovir and john say and prarie and tohar . Sal
You claim that billionaires are the enemy but consistently excuse Trump.
The group is what you need to focus on not this one or that. Individual merits are channel static blurring out what the group does as such
Personally Elon Musk seems to me a fantastic engineer and is now my favorite billionaire. This is besides the point.
Sure I liked Trump too, for all his many faults. Focus on the group. The group action is what is pushing our group down.
Just as the Greeks could admire Priam and Hector, and yet destroy Troy, we should appreciate that the billionaires are the adversary as a group
It’s as simple as that. You need to learn to think about groups if you are serious about politics. Politics is about group competition. If you only see individuals you are myopic.
Usually this is a faililng of conservatives. Not the Left. The Left is swell at seeing groups. It’s part of the reason they train people to be more effective activists. They don’t get too mired in personalities and details. This is a skill in politics, not an impediment.
Here we have some cunning Democrat cheerleaders, who owe some strange alliance to the Democrat leadership group, who are constantly needling me about this and undermining the point I am making about the billionaires. The irony is they prove the point, because in each instance they are essentially defending the group of billionaires, by bring up Trump.
Trump is an outlier, the exception that proves the rule. Maybe Musk too. In general, they are slave drivers, cheaters, and traitors to the working and middle class people who make up the backbone of America. Don’t waste time worrying about which one is ok or not. Worry about the group.
Sal Sar
10 held, you name commenters hear who always attack Professor Turley. They have something else in common. They never present a cognitive opposing argument. They are not interested in providing a defensible position. They just come here so they can say to their compatriots that they are on the same side. No logical response is required when the end goal is the just the art of “Virtue Signal”.
This ugly woman (inside and out) has incited more hate and violence than ANYBODY in AMERICA….and yet she is the Chairman of the House Financial Services committee even after giving her daughter millions. SHE should have her committees taken from her. Until they clean up THEIR act, they can pound sand. The world is laughing at us because of idiots like her, Hank Johnson, AOC and her little squad of haters, Adam Shifty Schiff the liar, Chucky Schumer and Fancy Nancy the ice cream eater.
Oh, don’t worry about Maxine. She is a leader of her people. She is no dissembler at least. There is frankness in her, and admirable trait compared to liars and those who hate their own
Worry about CIA geeks that want us hunted down like the Taliban. Really!
https://www.npr.org/2021/02/02/963343896/former-cia-officer-treat-domestic-extremism-as-an-insurgency?utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_term=nprnews
Sal
Maxine waters is in effect saying the same thing that the CIA guy is saying. Hunt down Donald Trump and the protestors at the Capitol like hunting down the Taliban. Hunting down the Taliban resulted in their deaths. Reach the final solution she says. This is real incitement to violence. No defense is in order.
Seems to me Maxine is not half as far gone as the CIA guy. She at least wants to give Trump a trial. Terrorists don’t get trials
I think the bigger news that is being ignored is that the security state is gearing up to make war on Americans. But Tucker got it:
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=482775972713726
Jan 6 was just a riot. It was not “insurrection,” it was not a “coup,” it was not “terrorism.”
They WANT to call it that falsely, because they ARE CALLING FOR A MILITARY ATTACK ON AMERICANS
This is deeply shameful. Where’s the Democrat commentators to temper and to reign in this insanity?
Americans compared to Al queda, wow. People who were not even at the Capital riot are now the enemy, the target. That’s us!
Sal Sar
Professor Turley, I admire your ability to rebut, with a straight face, the most absurd and nonsensical statements by idiots like Waters that don’t even deserve rebuttal with sound legal arguments. It must be difficult, particularly when Waters has made more egregiously inflammatory statements herself.
If you haven’t already, I might recommend that your read “Abe: Abraham Lincoln and His Times” and note how Lincoln reacted to the most absurd charges against him.
Gee Jonathan, thanks for promoting another thoroughly crackpot idea going nowhere, except to your page, so your right wing fan base can get cranked up about nothing and wallow in their imagined victim-hood, AGAIN!
Yeah, you have a point. I felt a little guilty about piling on. Maxine is a target-rich environment.
One has to credit Mad Maxine with speaking her mind frankly. One has to admire her sincerity.
Sal
Sure Sal, try him and hang him. String him up. Same sentiments voiced by the Klan. Excuse me if I don’t appreciate her sincerity.
There is a vote being taken today by the full congress to strip a congress critter of all committee assignments. (Republican). Holding all congress critters to a defined standard would be helpful. But Democrats denying Republican voters of full representation is a big deal.
Why aren’t Republicans ever pushing this hard to “strip” certain Dems of their committee assignments? The Repubs do not press hard enough. The anti-semitic, anti-American radical who married her own brother to commit immigration fraud, Ilhan Omar, at the very least ,should have been stripped of her assignments, as should Schiff the disgraceful leaker and liar, and Swallwell who was banging a Chinese spy who helped him get elected to Congress in the first place. It is outrageous how weak and feckless the Republicans are about pushing back hard against all of this from the Democrats.
Why aren’t Republicans ever pushing this hard to “strip” certain Dems of their committee assignments?”
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No Guts. And they are afraid of being called racist if they say anything about blacks like Maxine.
After 2022 when McCarthy becomes majority leader, the first thing he needs to do is….pay it foward….by immediately stripping Omar andTlaib, for starters, then Swallwell, Schiff, Waters…and the whole rotten lot of them…off their committees. Do not debate or hesitate. Let them rail and whine and call foul all they want. Tune them out. Just get it done.
Joe how do you feel about CIA geeks recommending that law abiding Americans who are yet “Extremists” be hunted down like Taliban?
Are you for or against?
https://www.npr.org/2021/02/02/963343896/former-cia-officer-treat-domestic-extremism-as-an-insurgency?utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_term=nprnews
I wont be able to chat with you if I am dead from a CIA Einsatzgruppen
Sal
Once again Joefriday attacks Professor Turley. His complaint might be taken more seriously if he would address the comments of Representative Waters. Hey Joe, please give us your scholarly defense of Maxine Waters call for a murder trial. Maxine’s preordained conviction will surely result in the death penalty. Please present a defense of Maxine’s and your call for the death of Donald Trump. You owe it to us to come completely clean about your desired end result.
Once again Joefriday attacks Professor Turley.
Try as they might, it doesn’t appear that our blog host is too concerned about their cancel tactics.
Living proof that people can function with little to no brain function. Mad Maxine is the poster girl. Her constituents deserve some “credit” too.
Unfortunately, many of the Congressional Black Caucus are frankly stupid. Remember Hank Johnson and his worries about midgets and “abnormally small people” as he likes to call them to avoid giving offense? Remember Guam tipping over? Or Shirley J. Lee asking for a picture of astronauts saluting the flag on Mars? One could go on and on but there is no need; they give new examples of breathtaking ignorance and stupidity every day. We are supposed to pretend they are smart. I can’t maintain that pretence when I can’t decide whether to laugh or to cry that these silly little people are in government.
“Remember Guam tipping over?”
Admiral Willard’s response to Hank Johnson was priceless: “We don’t anticipate that.”
But just to be safe, some of the military showed up the next day wearing life jackets. Others practiced running to the other side of the island, to counter-balance the tipping.
And as birds of a feather, guess who was Hank Johnson’s staffer at the time? — the newly anointed senator from Georgia, Jon Ossoff.
It gets worse by the minute.
Hank is my favorite congressional fool for that “Guam is tipping” alarm!
@mespo727272
Bet you didn’t know that Hank has an IQ of 130! Wait, only racists care about IQ except when leftists use it to get some thug off of death row.
antonio
Hank Johnson probably does have an IQ of 130 providing we are calculating in Dog IQ’s
Mespo–The Guam Tipping is great, but I also got a laugh out of his Midget Apology.
https://www.politico.com/video/2012/12/rep-hank-johnson-apologizes-for-using-the-word-midget-on-house-floor-009853
Really a mystery why blacks hate the GOP. It’s out of envy for how whip smart their representatives all are.
The smart ones don’t hate the GOP.
This morning’s zoom call by the Troll Avengers:
“They’re going after Mad Maxine today. We need a plan.”
“Marjorie Taylor Greene. Use her to change the subject.”
“What if they bring up AOC and the Cannon stuff.”
“Bring up Trump. CNN’s ratings are down, again.”
“Check.”
“We also need to emphasize the Capitol riot was an ‘INSURRECTION.’ Say it with me, ‘INSURRECTION.'”
“INSURRECTION!!”
“Make it sound like Pearl Harbor, ok? Just the beginning. Yada yada yada.”
“Post that link to the NYT about rioters…”
“Insurrectionists.”
“Insurrectionists. Sorry. Insurrectionists trying to sneak a nuclear device into the Rotunda.”
“What are you doing, man??”
“OMG!! He’s pulling a Toobin!”
“HAHAHAHAHA!!!”
Diogenes, we’ve never seen you round here. Drop out of no where all of a sudden ?
We know it’s you Estovir.
Oh yeah! They do accuse us of multiple identities. I left that one out. LOL 🙂
I have 2 theories on Peter Shill / Paint Chips
1. He is a she who runs many other popular avatars on here, most of which are known by their screeching
2. He is a frustrated homer sexual who becomes livid when people mock him, which is why he now uses “Anonymous” as opposed to his numerous American revolutionary way names: John Burgoyne, Enoch Poor, Seth Warner, etc
Either way, he /she provides free entertainment. We should all throw money at Turley for allowing us to play in his sandbox
You clearly don’t take Christ’s teachings seriously Estovir.
She is a person of limited intelligence and an exemplar of cluster B personality disorders. Her constituency is content with that.
Straight Outta Compton she is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMZi25Pq3T8
Next on her district’s playlist: “Fk the Police”
Sal
A theory can only be proven false by testing it, and Trump was insisting that the theory that the election had been “stolen” must be tested, e.g., by inquiries in state legislatures.
Whether it was a reasonable request, it was an understandable one. The courts and the DOJ had declined to investigate numerous allegations of misconduct, including the use of mail-in ballots, and the recounts were less than rigorous, e.g., in Wisconsin, they reounted contested ballots as valid.
To argue that the theory that the election was fraught with irregularities should be tested properly was not a call to insurrection, it was a request to falsify the theory, as any serious historian or social scientist would do if called upon to analyze it.
Trump appears to believe that the theory is true, and while his insistence it be tested may annoy those who do not want it tested, to insistithat a theory or a belief be tested is a long way from inciting an insurrection, and an even longer way from premeditated murder, unless we assume that Karl Popper had a servere case of mens rea when he argued that a theory needed to be falsifiable for it to be tenable.
Keep your eye on Maricopa County Az. They are refusing a subpoena by their state`s Senate to review the voting machines and ballots, even under arrest threat. Why would they be desperately fighting this subpoena if everything was on the up and up. All that is needed is one county to be exposed and the rest will fall like dominos.
“Keep your eye on Maricopa County Az. They are refusing a subpoena . . .”
And guess which voting machines are used in Maricopa County — the easily corrupted machines from Dominion (see the state of Texas audits.) The very company that apparently has financial ties to China. (See the UBS Securities LLC investment of $400 million.) They very company with a disgustingly biased Security Chief (former?), Eric Coomer.
The very company with everything to lose — and everything to hide.
And, yes, Dominion does have ties to Venezuela — via the cutout, Sequoia, which it purchased from the Venezuela start up Smartmatic. (A sale that Smartmatic and others are now trying to cover up.)
Give it a rest Sam.
Maricopa County:
“…Board of Supervisors Chairman Jack Sellers, a Republican, said state law simply does not allow him to give the Senate the kind of access it demands. The county has maintained that ballots are sealed until a court decides otherwise…
The Senate announced last week it had chosen a firm to conduct the audit and the county released documents Wednesday that showed the Senate has considered a firm, Allied Security Operations Group, with connections to the Trump campaign’s efforts to overturn election results in several states.
“It is our understanding that state law prohibits the release of the ballots once they have been sealed,” Sellers said in a statement. “There is nothing prohibiting the Senate and their lawyers from going into a courtroom and explaining to a judge why the Board should disregard state law and allow access to people’s ballots and personal information.”
Steve Gallardo, the only Democrat on the five-member board of supervisors, accused the Senate of operating on unfounded conspiracies.
“The only contempt I see is what state senators have shown to Maricopa County voters since early November. Contempt for their privacy. Contempt for the way the majority voted. Contempt for the democratic process,” Gallardo said in a statement.
County officials have said they had turned over hundreds of thousands of pages of documents to the Senate’s lawyers, including voter registration information that can already be publicly requested and logs showing who accessed voting equipment….”
https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/legislature/2021/02/03/arizona-senate-contempt-vote-maricopa-county-supervisors-election-audit/4378174001/
“…Board of Supervisors Chairman Jack Sellers, a Republican, said state law simply does not allow him to give the Senate the kind of access it demands. The county has maintained that ballots are sealed until a court decides otherwise…
Did you bother to check Arizona’s revised statutes?
Yeah, Deco. Went to the law library in Tempe just this morning.
WTF is wrong with this guy?
IOW, you take what he says at face value. It’s available online, by the way.
“Did you bother to check Arizona’s revised statutes?”
“There is no evidence!” they squeal — while frantically denying access to the evidence (ballots and voting machines).
ah jack. if you think one county being exposed will matter, then you are as naive as the Q addicts. Quite mainlining hopium
Sal
Jack. Let me explain something. The truth does not matter. The mass media will simply lie about it, if it is further revealed. They will suppress it.
The reality is that the Texas lawsuit said it all better than every other challenge. That was the one that mattered.
The real steal was in the various states which, contrary to their own state laws, decided that because COVID, they could shotgun out unsolicited mail in ballots.
Once that was decided and done, the fix was in.
Trump FAILED to mount a TIMELY legal challenge to that …. the Texas lawsuit was too little too late.
Elections are limited warfare. Trump FAILED in that contest. Was it fair? No it is NEVER fair. LIFE is not FAIR. Get over it and do what must be done to WIN
THAT is the virtue of the Democrat party going back all the way to Tammany Hall. they “get it.”
Republican party has failed consistently to put in the work and the money into buidling competitive party infrastructure at the local level to contest successfully elections.
Their messaging before Trump SUCKED.
Trump realigned the party properly towards a broad based, working and middle class coalition, against coastal elites, but he failed to build the party infrastructure.
Because why? Well, because the Republican establishment are billionaire sycophants, who take they money from the donors and miss-spend it in every year, on failed BS that will not advance the interests of the people.
Look past Trump at the work. The work is either to build party infrastructure around a consistent working and middle class coalition, against the coastal elites, and prepare to contest elections broadly, outside Red enclaves, or it is to fail at electoral politics henceforth.
Now perhaps there is work if that fails. The work of the dissolution of the United States into more cogent regional federations. Perhaps that is the wiser work. Or perhaps BOTH are necessary to be done simultaneously.
Just whining about 2020 without taking hard lessons, is to remain mired in failure. Get past it. Soon 2022 will be upon us and another chance to fail or succeed.
Saloth Sar
Just another fool claiming the opposition plays hard ball and his team kickball. Both righties and lefties sell this line.
Kurtz pretends he’s got the inside tract and what is really happening and it’s his fantasies that include him and Trump as lunch bucket workers fighting the billionaires. He’s actually a tassled toed lawyer and Trump doesn’t like fly over country and has a gold toilet – he actually told rallies at the end of the campaign this fall that if he lost he was never coming back to their goober towns. Truer words, yadda, yadda, yadda.
Feel free to keep on flogging Trump Joe
I do have a pair of bruno magli’s with tassels on them, so what? I got my Doc Martens on today
what’s a goober? I thought that was a peanut. Is that your Democrat party word for a bumpkin?
anyways, you got what i was saying, “the opposition plays hard ball and his team kickball” i like that. you’re clever. you understand. i must have made myself clear. thanks for confirming it. but i know you are not the one who needs to understand it. you get it just fine. you display your tough mindedness every day here. it’s cynical of course, but tough nonetheless.
rather, i hope some dyed in the wool republicans get the message too.
sal
No Evidence of Voter Fraud/Election Fraud.
Yeah Right! Maxine is the poster person for Voter Fraud/Election Fraud as No One can be so Stupid to keep voting for that piece of Anti-American Commie/Fascist Piece Of Trash!
Someone should take a look at the congressional district’s voting system.
Waters, Pelosi, Schumer. McConnell, etc., With this bunch of Geriatric Lunatics we;re surly screwed against out enemies! God Help Us!
Rep. Waters has a new friend. Joe Biden’s fixer & enforcer…DOD Secretary Lloyd Austin
Lloyd Austin is now busy with his first assignment: purging “white supremacists” and “Trump loyalists” from the military. I kid you not.
The Biden-Harris “Unity” administration is making “policy” and “political vendetta” one in the same. What a disgrace.
Thank God for that. I hope he goes hard at that one. If so then soon SF will be empty of dangerous operators. We should be so lucky if they fire all the white guys.
https://www.quora.com/Why-are-there-so-few-if-any-black-members-of-Special-Forces
That will make us safer from the CIA geeks who want to murder us like Taliban, literally
https://www.npr.org/2021/02/02/963343896/former-cia-officer-treat-domestic-extremism-as-an-insurgency?utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_term=nprnews
Sal
Waters should be charged for inciting riots and the shooting of House Rep. Steve Scalise. Plus the violent personal threats against President Trump and every member of his staff.
And how about the govt. employee whose last name is Bailey who shot and very surreptiously murdered that young woman vet. Not one word has been spoken about his absolute abuse of fire power. Partisan justice doesn’t work.
Agreed. If it weren’t for politics the police officer would not be put on display on Capitol Hill.
No, he would not be on display but for politics. Look how quickly these leftists spun from hating cops to displaying their bodies with ‘honor’. Hate will resume within weeks.
Why not charge Rachel Maddow, Bernie Sanders, Adam Schiff, and the entire Democrat Congressional Caucus with incitement of the execution a bunch of Republicans by an MSNBC-watching gunman who started shooting them while he had them all cornered on a baseball field? Or the violent attacks on Sen. Rand Paul? The list goes on and on with examples of violence against Republicans and Trump supporters incited by the intentionally reckless, dehumanizing rhetoric of Evil Party on the Hill.
Calling Trump voters MAGATs and other dehumaizing terms? It is intentional. It is dangerous. And it must be stopped.
Exactly 😡
Ms. Waters is a race baiter; following a long line of race baiters.
Only the left gives credence to these people; the rest of us listen (mildly irritated) and move on.
If Water’s is a contributor to a story, I shake my head in disbelief even before I hear or read what she has to say. Biden isn’t the only one that shows signs of slipping cognitively.
Thank you for your reasoned legal articles. A breath of sanity in a world that is going crazy.
You really should just ignore this 83 year old fool. She has the intelligence of a gnat.
You just insulted gnats!!